Planescape

I mean its also a pen & paper RPG so pretty deep.

>>388082146
In case you didn't realize the Planescape settings comes from the tabletop D&D and it's very expansive. The game barely scrapes the surface of it.
Although the setting itself isn't very detailed, it's more of guidelines for GMs to make their own planar adventures. So a lot of stuff is left up for GMs and players imaginations.

As deep as you want it to. The Planescape universe is pretty much designed around just making shit up as you go along.

>>388082146
>How much of the planes and setting is fully explored
None.
the setting fills books high several meters if stacked, and as >>388082328 said, it is not wholly defined either.

>>388082328
What about some of the bigger characters like The Lady of Pain or Ravel? Are they NPCs from the tabletop with backstories and histories? Like Bloodlines did with Jack?

>>388082495
The Lady is not as much a character as she's part of the environment in Sigil, but yeah, she's from the tabletop. Most of the in-game characters aren't. The rulebooks rarely bother with coming up with individual characters less than deity levels.

>>388082495
The lady of pain is kept as a vague mystery for a purpose. You should stay the fuck away from the lady of pain. She will kill you or maze you.

File: 1459661793587.png (481KB, 615x387px) Image search: [Google]

481KB, 615x387px

>>388082146
>Planescape
>game

>>388082676
It's not that she's cruel or anything, but the very fact she appeared before you in the first place, most likely means it only happened because you broke some of the Sigil's rules and have to be punished.

>>388082804
As far as I know, anything related to her is a reason to run away, You cant kill her, you cant escape her, so might as well leave her alone.

File: f2dzG5Z[1].jpg (1017KB, 2365x2850px) Image search: [Google]

1017KB, 2365x2850px

>>388082146
>How much of the planes and setting is fully explored and just how deep does Planescape's lore go?
None of it is fully explored, as each of the planes is a fully sized world in itself, and some of the outer planes are themselves comprised of multiple planes.

As for how deep the Planescape setting goes, the actual campaign setting is mostly Sigil itself and its denizens, which sit in the center of the outer planes. The rest of the setting is built on top of material that's been covered in several full sized books in D&D.

>>388082940
>as each of the planes is a fully sized world in itself
Most planes are outright infinite in size. And yeah, some have multiple layers with each one of them also being infinite.

>>388082940
That's a lot more outer planes than I thought. There's more than just a plane for each alignment?

>>388083193
There are some extra in-between planes and a few more strongly-aligned planes compared to your regular 9 character alignments.

>>388083193
Each alignment has its own plane (or set of planes; Lawful Good for example has Mount Celestia, which is comprised of seven heavens), and there is a plane that is halfway between each neighboring alignment. So for instance Arcadia is a halfway point between Mount Celestia(LG) and Mechanus(LN) with its denizens being of either alignment.

>>388082940
Which of those are some of the more interesting ones?

>>388084262
Baator and Abyss are probably the most fleshed out ones, especially the former, aka Hell.

>>388083456
Awww shiiiett I completly forgot how Planescape needlessly incorporated the retarded alignment system into canon, what a mistake :/

>>388084262
To me, Mechanus is pretty cool, it's a clockwork plane inhabited by the hierarchy of Modrons.

Pandemonium is pure chaos, and is home to the githzerai, one of my favorite D&D races, who have learned to use psychic power to shape the essence of its chaos into basically islands of order within it.

Baator is fairly well fleshed out, and probably my favorite overall due to the constant backstabbing and rivalries between the infernal lords of each layer of hell.

>>388084667
>retarded alignment system
>needlessly
>Planescape incorporated
Nigga you stupid.

File: advanced-dungeons-dragons-ad-d-manual-of-the-planes-1987-tsr-2022-jeff-grubb-8af82764f15dab831fc89d5421859de9[1].jpg (40KB, 394x500px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 394x500px

>>388084667
>Planescape needlessly incorporated the retarded alignment system into canon
what

it's literally a D&D setting built out of and expanding the AD&D planar cosmology that was all about alignments, how could they not incorporate it

>>388084685
>Pandemonium
Limbo.

>>388084685
The Modrons in Torment were kind of goofy. Is there a Modron at the top of the hierarchy or is it all classes?

>>388082146
Wish we would get a real remake and not that shitty abomination that was released recently.

>>388084942
what's wrong with it?

>>388084851
Lol @ the cacodemon being directly 100% ripped off from that art. Never saw that holy shit

File: 6140832_orig[1].jpg (158KB, 834x626px) Image search: [Google]

158KB, 834x626px

>>388084907
>The Modrons in Torment were kind of goofy. Is there a Modron at the top of the hierarchy or is it all classes?
Yeah, the highest Modron is the Primus, a godlike being of pure order. If memory serves all of the modrons in Torment are quadrones, which are one of the very lowest ranks. Hence their silliness. The higher the rank the more powerful and intelligent they are.

File: 33622bf3f8f8aa80bc6dab694659626b--fantasy-map-cartography.jpg (254KB, 736x1124px) Image search: [Google]

254KB, 736x1124px

The setting is fucking huge and expansive. The game covers a tiny, tiny corner of it, and doesn't even include everything that'd be there.

If you go to /tg/, someone will be able to hook you up with the setting material, and there's an awful lot of it. I personally love it and run all of my games in it, and once you really "get" the setting it just covers so, so much. One of the things that got carried over into Torment is that it is very much a setting that doesn't encourage typical DnD style "raid the dungeon" murderhobo play. There's almost always a reason to try and talk things through, and the factions alone give you a reason to do so as well (not to mention the fact that it doesn't matter how much of a badass you are - you are not going to break into Nessus, or any of the other fantastically well guarded locations).

>>388085316
>exotic planar adventures feature infinite possibilities and unlimited imagination
>all the D&D vidya is just fucking Toril

>>388085479
>just fucking Faerun
fix'd

File: cacodemon[1].png (488KB, 640x492px) Image search: [Google]

488KB, 640x492px

>>388085029
I have no idea what you're talking about. Surely it's a complete coincidence.

>>388085479
It is actually really understandable. So much of the setting would be nigh impossible to handle in a videogame without an utterly obscene budget - just imagine what you'd need to cover in order to handle the Modron March and Dead Gods alone. Zero gravity dungeons, hallucinogenic sap from Yggdrassil, the attacks of the Visages, etc etc. Torment got away with it by covering three or four parts of Sigil and almost nothing else (technically Limbo was in there, but rendering Limbo in a game would be nigh impossible anyway) and using lots of text - but imagine the budget you'd need to handle every single faction, plane etc (remember that every single ADND setting is also there too, so an accurate rendition of Planescape would include the entirety of Realmspace and Greyspace etc).

>>388084882
Yeah, don't know how I got those mixed up in my head. Pandemonium is the empty one with howling screams all the time that drive people crazy, yeah?

>>388085907
A non-cliche story and highly detailed exotic backdrops would be a good foundation for a top tier planar RPG vidya alone. Fucking Morrowind pulled it off back in the day.

How can the planescape setting be so rich and Tides of Numenera be so bland?

>>388086042
Pandemonium is a bunch of windy caves and tunnels and shit, yeah. Not a fan of the concept.
Also I don't quite remember Torment having Limbo in it either. Carceri was in. Or rather an Outlands town slipping into Carceri because of the alignment shift.

>>388086184
Torment does, technically, have Limbo in it. The Modron dungeon is set up there because they used the morphic traits of the Plane to create their adventurer simulator, and this is also part of the reason why the head modron went backwards.

>>388086265
Was it in Limbo, really? I thought it was a pocket dimension or something.

>>388086093
I can't say much as I'm not familiar with the Numenera setting at all, but it stands to reason considering Planescape was built on top of an already rich cosmology, while the main guy behind just the Planescape setting itself (i.e. mostly just Sigil and the Outlands) had to develop Numenera from scratch.

>>388086093
Numenera is a really bad setting/

Wish we'd get a NV or W3 type game in the Planescape setting. I'd love if maybe CD project Red would work it, they have a huge budget now.

>>388086184
I believe you go to Carceri, Outlands, Baator and Limbo.

File: Arborea-02603_(1994-07)_TSR_AD&D_2ed_Planescape-Planes_Of_Chaos.jpg (2MB, 3013x2000px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 3013x2000px

I'll post maps of the planes.

>>388086093

Numenera is a complete kitchen sink where anything goes, the setting doesn't really have anything going for it. I mean you can do pretty much anything you want with Planescape as well, but there is a better idea behind the overarching cosmology and particular locations such as Sigil are much more interesting and original in themselves.

>>388082940
Problem with Planescape is that, just like with Mage in World of Darkness, you kinda have to be familiar with EVERYTHING D&D to play it because it's at the center of things and literally anything can pop in your game.

File: Modron_maze.jpg (76KB, 1000x750px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 1000x750px

>>388086324
Yeah, the Rubikon is in Limbo.

>>388086325
Yeah, a big part of it is that so much of Planescape is drawn from other places. Almost every single classical mythology exists in the Planes, and vast numbers of things flow on from that (like the River Styx).

>>388086478
A real PS game would be an incredibly ambitious project, especially given the scope of the Planes. It'd be more like having a bunch of well defined areas like the metropolises and major features, with the spaces in between being vague and pseudorandomly generated each time you traveled through them.

>>388086623
Not really. You can easily just focus on one part of the setting and slowly branch out from there. One of the easiest ways to learn the setting is to read the basic outline of the world and then just start things off in Sigil. When you know you're headed to another Plane, use the time in between sessions to read up on the place you're going.

>>388086612
How did part of the world break off there?

>>388083382
>>388083456
And that's all before you start going into shit like Elemental planes.

>>388086662
This is where the Nameless one goes at the end of the game when he dies right?

>>388086723
Elemental planes have a lot of mixed planes on borders with each other, but the elemental planes themselves are just that - an infinite field of a certain element. With little to notable vistas or locations.

>the blood war is introduced as this endless conflict that keeps the universe in balance
>4e comes out
>lol I guess it's over guys

>>388086854
4e cosmology was absolute dogshit.

File: Elysium-02615_(1995)_TSR_AD&D_2ed_Planescape-Planes_Of_Conflicta.jpg (4MB, 2400x3617px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 2400x3617px

>>388086854

Did they even bother explaining what the Yugoloths were up to now?

>>388082146
Is this game sci-fi or some shit like that? Never played it

>>388087028
Fantasy. Magic and shit

>>388086774
That's one of the planes you visit in-game. You can actually see the Pillar of Skulls right up there at the top.

Thinking about how shit works in the planes hurts my brain.

>>388087262
That's where angels and the like live right? It's a perfect paradise or something?

>>388087348
Basically, yes, it's the Lawful Good plane.

File: ysgard plan.jpg (901KB, 3005x2000px) Image search: [Google]

901KB, 3005x2000px

>>388087427

But you have to keep in mind that just because it's Lawful Good it doesn't mean it's a good place to live in.

>>388082940
>Plane of Salt
We're probably there right now

>>388087427
So why doesn't everyone just go there? Or live a life of lawful good knowing they get there when they die?

>>388087348
Mt. Celestia isn't a perfect paradise - it is incredibly hard on people. There are multiple "paths" up the mountain, and they're simultaneously physical and metaphorical for how you try and make your way up (and following those paths makes you more lawful and more good). Even the Upper Planes can be dangerous.

>>388087258
One of the characters (not players) in the game I'm currently running is retiring after the current adventure, due to how what they've learned about the nature of reality on the Planes has been so disruptive, and they want things to start making sense again.

>>388082875
What about sticking my dick in her?

>>388087457
You don't necessarily "live" there. Lawful good petitioners go there after they die, so most of them should feel at home there. Obviously non-lawaful good planar travelers might run into some trouble there.

>>388087486
>Even the Upper Planes can be dangerous.
What the hell is going to try and kill you in heaven?

File: Factol_Pentar_by_Tony_Diterlizzi-2611_(1995)_TSR_Planescape_-_The_Factol's_Manifesto.jpg (2MB, 1332x1800px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1332x1800px

Generally speaking, all the artwork for Planescape books was fucking fantastic. I regret not being born a few years earlier so I could get them all on time as they were coming out, since they're now a rarity and thus really expensive.

>>388087505
your dick gets mazed

I'd probably start here
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17267/Planescape-Campaign-Setting-2e?src=hottest_filtered&it=1

>>388087473
It's not christian heaven, just the closest thing to it in the Planescape setting. And it's not like you can just use your meta-knowledge to ensure yourself a good afterlife. You just live your life how you do and end up where you should.
Plus, I honestly don't know much about how the good planes function, but for example in Baator, the petitioners that go there are stripped of identity and pretty much turned into raw soulstuff to produce more devils from.

File: Gehenna-02615_(1995)_TSR_AD&D_2ed_Planescape-Planes_Of_Conflict.jpg (4MB, 3619x2400px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 3619x2400px

>>388087564

Angels, among other things.

>>388087564
The angles obviously, if they'll find you too impure to be there.

>>388087505
>What about sticking my dick in her?
Good luck, just having her shadow fall on you will flay your skin off.

>>388087676
>tfw you will never get to take your sister here for kinky bhaalspawncest

i crai

File: diterlizzi-tiefling.jpg (719KB, 1088x1500px) Image search: [Google]

719KB, 1088x1500px

I fucking hate how the Tieflings got changed with the newer editions of D&D.

>first time playing
>enter Carceri
>meet Vhailor
>oh neat he can join my part
>party is full
>i'll just have Nordom wait here and pick him up later
This game did regrets well.

>>388085026
The only good thing it added was adjusted UI that fits 1080p.
Other things? You can get them to work within 5 minutes installing mods.

>>388087867
I don't mind as long as they have horns and tails. And boobies.

>>388086482
Also the Negative Energy Plane.

>>388086692
I don't know Arcadia much, but given the gears on the picture and its position next to Mechanus on the Outer Ring I'm assuming it's a border land getting ground off by the gears of Mechanus.

File: lady_of_pain_by_dominuself-d4h8qjv.jpg (515KB, 808x1200px) Image search: [Google]

515KB, 808x1200px

what the fuck was her problem?

How strong the Nameless One in grand order of things after reuniting with his mortality?

>>388088136
As strong as any other dead petitioner.

>>388088110
The Lady of Pain is easily misunderstood.

The purpose she serves in the setting is to explain why Sigil exists. The city itself is such an incredible resource that it would have been conquered within a day, or fought over so violently that it was no longer usable. Even beyond the portals, it plays a massive role in the setting as a whole. The Lady exists to explain why Orcus or Demogorgon or Asmodeus or Mephistopheles or Ssendam or Primus or Barakhiel or The Five Companions (etc etc) haven't taken the place over.

>>388088136
Generic adventurer. Utterly meaningless in the grand scheme of things, which was one of the points of the story according to Avellone.

>>388086478
>I'd love if maybe CD project Red would work it,
Apparently CD Project Red did the Polish localization of Torment. So they could be in the business of it.

I wish I could find that one official Planescape comic.

File: hope you like that cursed axe.png (48KB, 169x124px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 169x124px

>>388087868
>give Vhailor hatred's gift
>cursed axe, very powerful, causes berserk
>vhailor more of a threat to my party than enemies
>have to let him wail on nameless one with 24 END so people don't die
>try to remove curse so he can unequip the axe
>"Made save: magic resist"

>>388088287
I would prefer Planescape 2 to Cyberpunk 2077. I like cyberpunk but there's more than enough of it to go around. Planescape has so much fucking potential as a setting.

File: 1421445611157.jpg (369KB, 1200x1455px) Image search: [Google]

369KB, 1200x1455px

FOUND IT!

How do faggots have the time to make these worlds for d&d?
Just walked in here and wanted to ask

How's the steam version compared to the original?
What are the changes?
Any music changes? I thought I read somewhere it was "remastered" and I don't trust developers with that shit.

File: 1421445678678.jpg (473KB, 1200x1568px) Image search: [Google]

473KB, 1200x1568px

>>388088796

>>388088287
The polish version of the Planescape is kinda among legendary voice acting among few other games (Baldies Gate and Gothic among others)

>>388088810
If you have imagination and a lot of sources to draw inspiration from you can do this shit on a day.
Finding artists to make it a reality is another thing.

File: 1421445746710.jpg (339KB, 1167x1455px) Image search: [Google]

339KB, 1167x1455px

>>388088859

>>388088910
>BERKED

File: 1421445816924.jpg (457KB, 1200x1535px) Image search: [Google]

457KB, 1200x1535px

>>388088910

File: 1421445912664.jpg (413KB, 1200x1562px) Image search: [Google]

413KB, 1200x1562px

>>388089003

>>388088831
It is just tracks from game in slightly better sound. Also best unused song coming by

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RN1hBkYrxCQ

File: 1421445981637.jpg (460KB, 1200x1600px) Image search: [Google]

460KB, 1200x1600px

>>388089063

File: 1421446053234.jpg (321KB, 1200x1600px) Image search: [Google]

321KB, 1200x1600px

>>388089129

File: 1421446128085.jpg (468KB, 1200x1600px) Image search: [Google]

468KB, 1200x1600px

>>388089193

File: 1421446203714.jpg (425KB, 1200x1600px) Image search: [Google]

425KB, 1200x1600px

>>388089265

>>388089129
This will certainly not backfire at all.

File: 1421446296390.jpg (384KB, 1200x1600px) Image search: [Google]

384KB, 1200x1600px

>>388089328

bump, nice dump m8

File: 1421446369640.jpg (401KB, 1200x1535px) Image search: [Google]

401KB, 1200x1535px

>>388089392

File: 1421446436624.jpg (329KB, 1200x1600px) Image search: [Google]

329KB, 1200x1600px

>>388089453

The end.

>>388089514
Where was this issued ?

>>388089453
>>388089514
>wow what
>fucking gm
>shit campaign
>0/10 would not play setting again

File: 1446043358695.gif (945KB, 250x236px) Image search: [Google]

945KB, 250x236px

>>388087718

File: ps-box-hellbound-wargames.jpg (527KB, 1251x1609px) Image search: [Google]

527KB, 1251x1609px

>>388089601

Hellbound: Blood War

I really recommend folks get the Planescape torrent from TPB with all the books it has, it's really great reading.

File: Hmm.gif (875KB, 250x231px) Image search: [Google]

875KB, 250x231px

>>388089660

>>388088258
>Generic adventurer
I don't know. Can a generic adventurer kill a Deva?

>>388091126
touch not so fluffy tail

>>388091126
Fall from Grace > Annah

File: Fall-From-Grace.jpg (2MB, 1673x2256px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1673x2256px

>>388091303

Oh I agree.

>>388091303
>>388091426
What good is a succubus that won't succ

>catching up on what's been happening in D&D due to this thread
>find out Bhaal is back

>>388088190
TNO wasn't a petitioner though.

>>388091126
Ah, Annah... Just like I remember her in the game.

>>388091426
so what was in her diary?

>>388095404
Confessions of abyssal gang bangs and other debauchery

>>388082146
>How much of the planes and setting is fully explored
Pretty much none. 95% of the game is set in three small maps in Sigil. Sorry. The game doesn't live up to the setting's potential in the slightest.

>>388095594
that was against her will while she was enslaved though, her heart is still pure.

>>388095967
>The game doesn't live up to the setting's potential in the slightest.
What the hell is that statement, it isn't even based on anything besides your own ass. No one claimed during the production that PS:T would explore the multiverse.
The game is still immersive.

>>388085684
>just the Sword Coast
tbph

>>388095967
but sigil is the best part of the game, honestly it's the best city of all rpgs i've played, just amount of the stuff you have to explore makes it amazing
they could include more planes, sure, but you get to *know* a lot of them and they made a ground for a good sequel, sadly it will never happen

>>388100654
You don't even see in-game that Sigil is torus shaped.

>>388086528
Where did you get these? Artbooks?

>>388095967
I don't think any game could truly live up to the potential, even Forgotten Realms is barely explored in video games.

>>388101191

The books themselves.