What are the gameplay reasons for Yoshi not being allowed in castles?

>>388080973
Poop and pee on the carpet

Grabbable fences. There's a lot of them in castles, and Yoshi can't use them.

>>388080973
1.) the number 1 reason is that I think they want you to get good

2.) correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you can open doors while riding a yoshi

3.) they don't want you to try swallowing a Koopaling boss

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Entirely so they can do certain puzzles without you having to sacrifice and lose Yoshi for no good reason, such as the chain-link climbing sequences in several. It also prevents you from cheesing certain segments because you have a double jump they didn't intend for you to have.

It wasn't because of gameplay. It's because Yoshi is a coward. That's why he can't enter Ghost Houses as well

I don't think I ever noticed Yoshi's orange arm before. It is disturbing and out of place.

>>388080973
Would a knight bring the horse inside the castle?

Can we all agree that the Ghost Houses are the worst parts of SMW? They're just stupid gimmicks.

>>388081291
Fire Emblem tells me yes.

>>388081412
They are my favorite part. I love Yoshis Island because they expanded on SMW ghost houses with levels that have puzzles and backtracking.

>>388081412
In Mario romhacks and Mario Maker, ghost houses really inspired the "LOL, YOU CHOSE THE WRONG DOOR! I TROLL YOU!" gimmick that we all know and loathe.

It wasn't all that bad in Mario World, but people have made it much worse since then.

>>388081262
What the fuck why did you post thisd!!!

haha

>>388081558
eggs

>>388081262
I always interpreted it as part of his saddle. Might be off-base here, though.

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>>388081527
It's even worse in motion. I guess playing on CRTs growing up I just thought it was a stir-up.

>>388081775
Is he punching him in the head, pointing forward or both?

>>388081775
It is a stirrup just badly sprited.


>388081864
He's smacking the shit out of him and the fireballs are flammable boogers

It's really just because Yoshi is OP and they needed something to stop you just coasting straight through the game with him.

>>388081864
all power in mario originate in the nose
thats why mario shoots fireballs out of his own nose and has to smack yoshi on his nose to get him to eat shit

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>>388082023
?

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>>388080973
Because he likes to chill on top of them while the fat Italian dude does the plumbing.

>>388080973
I assume it's because Yoshi would fuck up the mode 7 Koopaling fights.

>>388082246
Yeah man look at that stirrup bouncing up and down as he walks

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What were the gameplay reasons for Yoshi being hydrophobic other than making getting to that one island to start the poison river lily pad level a pain in the ass?

I don't care what anyone says, this is the best 2d Mario game

>>388081412
Agreed

They're not annoying because they're difficult, they're annoying because they're basically just "LOL I TROL U" in level format - none of them have any real difficulty, they're just patience testers

>>388082546
But stages like this have always been in Mario games

>>388082530
I never got the timing for capehax down so I agree. Still one of my favorite platformers of all time. I feel like it would ruin the game for me if I did figure it out though.

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>>388082453
>100% sunshine so I never have to force myself to get yoshi to the island or play that fucking level ever again

Feels good mane

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>>388082797
100% Sunshine is one of the most painful experiences ever, every level is THAT level.

>>388082741
You just press back every 3 seconds. It's that easy

>>388082834
I like to think back on that experience with rose colored glasses but youre absolutely correct.

Blue coins can suck my ass

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>>388082943
*blocks your path*

>>388080973
He's to big to fit through the door because he's a mount.

Did anyone ever use the dive bomb attack in SMW? It seemed like the most useless move ever

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>>388083005
I always had to resort to cheesing the slopes so I could hover around. Fuck

Sirena Beach had the most stupid and "why the fuck"-y levels out of the whole game

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>>388083254
>Sirena Beach had the most stupid and "why the fuck"-y levels out of the whole game
Debatable.

>>388083254
All of SMS's levels made me ask "why"

>>388083220
Isn't it the same thing as yellow Yoshi stomp?

>>388083325
I'll admit Mysterious Hotel Delfino was good shit when I tried it the first time but I still don't like a majority of the area.

Also, chucksters red coins.

>>388083481
Fair

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>>388083481
>>388083642

>>388083220
It's so you don't land on something off-screen that will hurt you immediately. Of course, the levels were designed with ample bottomless pits and projectile enemies, so it didn't really help much.

>>388081082
>>388081131
Why not just give Yoshi the ability to climb fences?

>>388083713
I played the game for the first time recently, fearing this boss by reputation. But then it was easy. What the fuck?

Has Yoshi ever used his tongue to swing across shit, Bionic Commando style?

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>>388083775
Not many of Sunshine's JUST levels are what I'd call hard per se just really annoying and begs the question of what the fuck they're doing in a game that's supposed to be a platformer.

I will never be able to 100% Sunshine.
And I'm ok with that. I'm ok that this is a reality that happened.

>>388083913
Makes sense. Fucking roller coaster was stupid and ass. Someone should do a Mr. Plinkett-style analysis of SMS, tear it apart.

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>>388083775
Yeah, I didn't think it was that bad either. I guess people don't like it because you have to go out of your way for air sometimes, but I never found that bad.

>>388083913
Fuck, I was just about to post that level. They managed to take a concept I kinda liked from the first level of that area to making me hate it.

>>388081082
>>388083737
Game balance. The castles serve as pure platforming challenges meant for Mario only. They limit your skill set to challenge the player in a specific manner as opposed to more free-form challenge elsewhere. It's a fundamentals course.

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>>388084006
What the actual fuck were they thinking?

>>388084013
>pure platforming challenges
>they're filled with gimmicks

>>388084078
"Fuck you"

The Gamecube in general was such a disappointment. Launching with Luigi's Mansion as the Mario game, Donkey Kong went through his dark age, Mario and Zelda both felt unfinished, Doubledash felt so slow.

My only good 1st party memories from GC are Pikmin, Melee, Metroid, and Animal Crossing.

>>388084013
>Game balance.
You can't seriously claim this is the reason when the cape and Yoshi exist in the first place.

>>388083903
That's his main gimmick in Galaxy 2.

>>388084078
They weren't thinking

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>>388084130

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>>388084251
Agreed.

>>388082246
Fuck i see it now

>>388084334
That level was the ultimate fuck you. First you play through it for the first time not knowing how to fucking control the boat THEN you gotta blue coin it and you still cant fucking control the boat

>>388084191
Both are limited in the castles, dummy. The castle is intended as a player gimmick reduction.

>>388084078
>>388084278
SHHHHEEEEEIIIIIIITTTTT

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>>388084424
>That level was the ultimate fuck you.
Then what was this?

>>388084428
>Both are limited in the castles
Yoshi, yes. The cape, absolutely not. The castles like many of the levels in SMW start out with a long, flat stretch of ground that allows you to get flying quickly.

The point you're missing is that the cape and Yoshi are broken as fuck, so "limiting" their effectiveness in the remarkably few castles in the game for the sake of "game balance" doesn't fly when they were so poorly-conceived in the first place.

>>388084186
>Double Dash
>not Kirby Air Ride

>>388084078
Mario is a nigger

>>388080973
He's a fucking pussy.

>>388084595
I stand corrected. I still say that corona mountain was a bitch.

>>388081864
Pointing, see the frame in wich Mario has his hand next to the head of Yoshi

I could never pick between SMW, DKC2, and Yoshi's Island.

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>>388084756
Yeah ok but then what was THIS?

>>388084971
The way slopes worked for this was clunky desu
and if you fucked up waiting for the bird to get all the way to the top is an unnecessary fuck you
Sunshine was weird

>>388084971
That was a level that was overblown in it's difficulty.

>>388085074
>>388084971
Overhyped I mean.

Once you figure out you had to hover to the ledge and not just stand at the step as the bird turned it was ezpz

>>388085074
>anything mario
>having "difficulty"
I would accept this as an excuse from a five year old cousin but damn you're bad at games

>>388085173
see
>>388085150

>>388085214
Oh it's alright then

>>388085173
Confirmed for never playing the Lost Levels.

>>388084186
>talking shit about sunshine, Luigi mansion, and jungle beat

Nigger I will fite u

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>>388085173
>mario games are easy
What's this then?

>>388085450
Sunshine it the closest thing too a bad game a Mario platformer gets.

Luigi's Mansion is fine in a vacuum but not as the launch Mario game.

Jungle Beat was making lemonade out of the Bongo's lemons but still a disappointment.

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>>388081262
Anon, I

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>>388085585

>>388085585
Just trial and error, doesn't actually require intelligence or problem solving

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>>388085615
Luigi's Mansion is a better Mario game than Sunshine though, it's got that arcade feel to it: short length but high replay value trying to get that A rank mansion.

>>388080973
This is no place for a yoshi

>>388080973
I won't deny there were likely gameplay or thematic reasons for this as well, but I think another part was hardware limitation. I did a lot of romhacking back in the day, and there are a limited number of sprite graphic tile "slots" which can be loaded by the game at any given time, called tilesets. The same slots may be used by different sprites in different tilesets.
A lot of Yoshi's spritesheet is used by other graphics present in the ghost house and castle tilesets. This may be because in order to make room for large, imposing enemies (big boo, those gas bubble things in Valley Ghost House, ball 'n' chain, grinders, and sprites used in boss rooms like Reznor) they needed more room in their sprite tilesets and Yoshi's graphical tiles were used for it. Spawning a Yoshi in those levels and using him shows his head animation occasionally bugs, and his tongue has the wrong tiles.

>>388085981
Make's sense. Isn't there also a "No Yoshi" sort of sign that is unused on the cart?

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fuck this shine
>speak to thrower
>he doesn't throw you straight

>>388086109
Yes, and it was part of a third (besides ghost house and castle) level entrance animations that is fully functional, but unused in the game.

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>>388086382

>>388086804
Mario was standing way off target though

>>388080973
You can't enter doors with Yoshi

>>388080973
There's a glitch that corrupts yoshi's face if there's one of those jumping fireballs or ball with chains on the same screen he is.

That and balance reasons I guess?

>>388085585
>Half the puzzle is just figuring out which solid red pieces fit together
For what purpose?

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>>388084013
>for Mario only

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>there are people who didn't know you could stand on the trees to avoid the manta
even though I beat it without knowing this but still

Graphical glitches with his tongue.

His sprite is also incompatible with the bouncing lava fireballs.

T. romhacker.

>>388081040
haha go on??

>>388088376
Wot ? She casts a shadow on the tree. It even shows in the picture you posted

>>388090723
holy shit I didn't even notice
I could of sworn you were safe on the trees

>>388082453
It's not a real Yoshi. It's a paint construct from Bowser Jr. That's why it dissolves into droplets when 'killed'

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>>388080973

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>>388082797
>Mfw I just clip through the ground to get to that stage now
I love glitches.

>>388091012
The only place I recall being safe is under the huts

>>388090723
>she

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>>388080973
Islam has weird rules about allowing pets into a house.

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>>388091625
>modern

>>388081262
>>388081527
>>388085675
>>388081775
haha le epic xD, nice one leddit

>>388091882
how sad do you have to be to be this bitter at other people having fun

>>388083254
WHaaat?? Sirena was amazing, apart from the beach cleaning level. I loved getting caught up in the owner's silly ghost antics.

>>388091386
My bad, we have grammatical genders in my mother tongue and sometimes it leaks into english

>>388081230
I remember watching the cartoon as a kid and that was the case. Yoshi was just too chicken shit to go inside. I know I shouldn't take the cartoon as canon but I did.

>>388092249
>mother

>>388084186
>Double Dash!!
>slow in any way, shape or form
Shut the fuck up. DD is objectively the fastest game in the franchise, in terms of mechanics. DS has it beat with snaking but everything else in DD is faster; acceleration, time until you can drift again after slowing down (it's instant), hitstun (at an all time low, no bullshit flailing for 5 seconds after slipping on banana peels etc). Even knocking into walls while drifting won't slow you down, you can basically grind on them.

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>>388092378
Yes, son ?

>>388092447
Why didn't you give me any guidance and just let me do whatever I want, now I hate myself and don't have the discipline to better myself in any way

>>388084660
>like a dozen levels
>Top Ride unplayable
Only "good" part was City Trial

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>>388092503
Because you're the spawn of the rotten, cowardly, pitiful excuse of a man I once loved.

>>388092736
wtf my dad's cool don't be a bitch mom

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>>388080973
it is rude to use your mount indoors silly

>>388091714
A modern religion for the progressive and modern times we live in

>>388081486
Dismount and restrictions on bringing horses inside actually is in a few games (FE3 and 5) but they never bothered using it ever again. It wasn't even in FE3's remake.
>cavs can't use swords while on horses
>on-foot cavs can only use swords
>have to carry a sword for each horsey you have

>>388080973
It's like losing fludd in those sunshine platform challenges