so in the end which one was better?

PSX

N64

I am

Both

>>388077776
It's kinda of a "pick your poison".
Warped or blurred.

They both have shitty graphics and underpowered CPU, but I think PS1's games are better optimized.

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Step aside children.

>>388078160
For what?

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>>388077776
>>388078160
For 3D the N64 wipes the floor with both.

psx
and i only had a n64

>>388077776
Those are fucking awful puns.

I tend to go for Playstation.

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>no n64 game is as expansive as Driver 2 and Silent Hill
Explain this, nintenbros.

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>>388078249
>Tfw would spend hours just exploring the different islands in the wingsuit at ground level taking in the comfy atmosphere and music.

This game is the literal definition of kino and contributed to my low poly fetish.

>>388078392
It's a reference to old console war shitposting from Usenet.

>>388078410
OoT, Banjo Tooie and Body Harvest.

>>388077776
N64 is one of the Nintendo's weakest libraries honestly, you cannot name a game outside of SM64 and the two Zeldas that is still fun to play today.

>>388077776
PS

>>388078604
>OoT, Banjo Tooie and Body Harvest.
All empty compared to Driver. No traffic and half a dozen of cops on your back.

>>388078249
I can feel the analog stick moving in my hands as I watch this.

PS1
I have final fantasy, SOTN, front mission 3, star ocean 2, metal gear, armored core, tekken and a shit ton more variety than N64.

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>>388078656
>SM64 and the two Zeldas
They're shit and the gameplay aged like milk.
San Francisco Rush and WWE No Mercy are the best N64 games tbqh. Goddamn, so much content.

>>388077776
Ps1 has way more games but pretty much all of them are shit. N64 has way less games with plenty of shitty games but... the 64 has some of the greatest games of all time so just because of that it's the clear winner. Quality over quantity on everything in life.

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>>388078656
>SM64 and the two Zeldas that is still fun to play today.
The modern classic of retro gaming memes.

>>388078571
Be that as it may I certainly hope we've improved over the years and can now come up with more clever puns than those.

I never thought I'd see the day I'd be demanding better shitposting from really old sources....

>>388077776
Playstation, no contest. It's got one of the most varied libraries of any console, especially if you're including imports.
Also the Saturn is better than the N64.

>>388077776
PS1 ez

>>388078656
Mario Kart 64
Banjo Kazooie
Paper Mario
Super Smash Bros
Mario Party
Mario Party 2
Mario Party 3

>>388078921
is this some fucking tux racer

>>388079059
>Banjo Kazooie
Yooka Laylee was proof that the Banjo games are complete garbage.

>>388078656
I agree with you on your first point but you forgot to include F-Zero X, Kirby 64 and all the Treasure games.

>>388079168
No, it was just proof that nobody can make a game as good as Banjo Kazooie again.

I mean the fact is its kinda a toss up and comes down to personal preference of the games.
N64 was where nintendo started lagging while sony just started the race, but its debatable as to whether they pulled ahead before or after ps2 launch. But thats not really what youre looking for huh?

HURR, MY CONSOLE CHOICE RULES, YOURZ SUX DONKEY DICKS!!!!1!

>>388079168
>a shitty game being released is proof an older game is bad
Brainlet logic.

>>388079243
>Game is modeled after shit game design
>Game is shit
Seems to be a pattern there, collectathons died for a reason.

>>>388079059

GTA series alone blew all the shitendo titles out the water. Literally just asking are you an adult or manchild?

>>388079297
Good games in general died for a reason, the reason is people like you.

>>388079059
>muh mario
>muh zelda

grow the fuck up.

>>388079307
I hope you aren't talking about the 2d GTA's because those are trash.

>>388078956
You're a dipshit if you're not trolling. 64 was better then and it's still better now. Having 7000 shitty games doesn't make a system great. SotN is by far the best game the ps1 ever seen and it's a snes game at heart.

In the end, playstation of course.

i guess psx overall. both were good in their own way

>>388079168
>a shitty game 20 years later means 2 classic games are garbage.

How was this retard the fastest one to the egg? Your dad must have some super defective balls. Hopefully yours never get used to spare humanity.

>>388079420
>Having 7000 shitty games doesn't make a system great.
But having hundreds of great games does.
>SotN is by far the best game the ps1 ever seen and it's a snes game at heart.
I don't consider it to be top of the pack, but it's a great game. Calling it an "snes game at heart" doesn't stop it from being a PS1 exclusive, though.

>>388079412
GTA 3
Vice City
San Andreas

>>388079407
Says the kid playing spyro and crash and a bunch of shitty generic weeb rpgs.

>>388078160
That controller is different, was it uncomfortable?

>>388077776
I played FF7-9 more combined than every N64 game. And I had them at launch, not some retro emulating hipster shit. Add in RE1-3, SH, CC and god knows how many other amazing games and it wasn't even a competition.

>>388079535
>PS1 exclusive
But it was on Saturn in Japan

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>>388077804
>PSX

>>388079530
>Tooie
>Classic
Spotted the underage, you'd actually like Yooka Laylee if you could stomach that garbage since it's the same stuff with massive empty levels.

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>>388079535
>PS1 exclusive
>implying

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>>388079630
actually the best gamepad for 2D games ever created

>>388079673
>>388079692
lol I actually forgot

>>388079535
>But having hundreds of great games does
Depends on who you ask. I grew up with both and there's only a few ps1 games I'll ever go back to. It's still funny though that the best ps1 game is basically a nintendo game.

>>388077776
At the end of the day N64.
PSX had more games, some really good ones too - but the N64 games were always far better quality outside of certain music.

I loved them both though.
I probably ended up playing more PSX more though because I had a modchip and my neighbour has a cd burner

>>388079570
DELETE THIS

>>388079630
No. It's the best feeling controller for 2d games.

This thread made me want to rebuy a Saturn that I sold a few years ago after entering college. I thought I'd never want my old consoles anymore but now I regret that.

>>388079681
Back to school newkid.

>>388079689
Tooie was great and I'm 32 so unlike your underage childishass I did grow up with this stuff. I feel sorry for you that you grew up so poor and unloved.

>>388078410
Was Driver 2 the game that had a tutorial level at the beginning? I remember it asking me to slalom and having no idea what the hell that ment.

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>>388079630
Which one? It really doesn't matter because they both feel fucking great and it's baffling that they took a step back in comfort when designing the Dreamcast controller.

>>388079570
What do those games have to do with this thread?

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>>388077776
*angel hymns*

>>388079747
Name one (1) N64 OST as good as FFVIII or SotN.

>>388079746
Considering quality 2D games barely existed on the N64 I guess the system lacked a lot of "nintendo games".

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>>388079843
STOP

>>388077776
It really comes down to what you think is a better game: Ocarina of Time or Resident Evil?

They're both basically two of the greatest games of all time.

>inb4 shitty bait replies

>>388079819
>it's baffling that they took a step back in comfort when designing the Dreamcast controller.
so much this, I can't believe how much they fucked up the DC controller. buttons feel cheap, d-pad is straight up garbage, and the analogue stick isn't concave on top anymore. such a shame.

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>>388079969
Nintendo got the best RE game in the end anyways.

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>>388079935
>People were THIS okay with z-fighting back in 1997

Dark times indeed.

>>388079879
Goldeneye 64.
In any case, your bringing up console war garbage where I had none.
My post directly implied the N64 was more powerful hardware *except* for music (as PSX could do CD Audio, the gold standard even now)
N64 had better samplers, more channels and higher mixing quality but all of that is moot compared to PSX being able to play real CD Audio tracks.
Compare THPS for example, The N64 puts on a great show for what it was, but the PSX could simply play real tracks and that was always going to be better.

>>388078656
I still love playing Pokémon Snap, Pilotwings, Star Fox and Super Smash Bros.

>>388077776
N64 + PC. It's always been the best choice.

>>388080095
Looks like its literally their first model, which is entirely possible.

>>388079885
That's because it wasn't some half assed system trying to sell 3d when it was a 2d system. Ps1 3d was and will always be cring worthy.

>>388078249
Pilotwings 64 was fantastic

>>388079819
I was talking about the circular one

>>388080207
It's not like N64's graphics have aged much better, dude. I'd rather take the extensive 2D library on PS1 and Saturn.

>>388078857
No Mercy was such a great game. If N64 logged my hours like Steam does I would probably have at least 1000 hours in that game just from making characters, doing the survival mode, getting all of the belts, unlocking all of the outfits, characters, stages. Goddamn there was so much shit in this game. From ages probably like 6 to 13 this game was my existence. Used to suck though I wanted to play multiplayer with friends so bad but nobody had any AKI wrestling games so they didn't really know how to play No Mercy nor did they really care to learn. Always bummed me out.

>>388080207
PS1 3D is actually really neat from an engineering standpoint, Sony went ground up on their own.
Nintendo didn't do shit, SGi did it all for them, Ultra64 was entirely an SGi creation.
I still have a lot of respect for SCE for PS1 and PS2 graphics hardware.

If only Cell had worked out the way they wanted it.

Is it weird that I got more out of my PS2 and PS3 than my PS1? There just weren't that many games I liked on it.

>>388077776
Why not both ? Don't you supposed to like video games ?

>>388080341
>getting all of the belts, unlocking all of the outfits, characters, stages.

It's weird that all that would be dlc nowadays

>>388080349

Wasn't PS1 just a spin off of the Nintendo PlayStation?

>>388079810
Not him but I always thought Mario 64 was more fun. The banjo games had way too much collection, and I found the first banjo game more fun than the second. Also the banjo games tended to give me headaches or make me dizzy unlike Mario 64, and At the time I didn't think of them as anything special, just another Mario clone in an ocean of clones.

>>388080357
Considering the PS3 had pretty much no games and the PS1 had a ton, yes that is strange. Did you play a lot of online on your PS3?

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>>388080349
PS1 3D is neat but the fact that programmers got away with shit like Virtua Fighter 2, Shenmue 0, Burning Rangers, and Panzer Dragoon Saga on the Sega Saturn blows my fucking mind after learning about the hardware.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_OchOV_WDg

>>388078160
Patrician taste.

>>388080323
You don't have kids do you? My kids and their cousins don't even put the 64 controllers down. Obviously it's all preference but nintendo had all the magic back in the day and even today's kids can see it.

>>388080413
Yeah. But even for this games time there wasn't really anything else like it either. I can't think of many games where you can unlock a character's retro throwback outfit by saving money you made in career mode

Such a great game

>>388080464
I agree I like mario 64 way more but rare was on the same level back then and banjo is no exception.

>>388080470

No, I just enjoyed PS3's games more overall. I mean yeah, it was a multiplat machine, but I honestly preferred thosr multiplats to PS1's exclusives. Hated Legend of Mana, did not like Suikoden, Gradius 4 was gatbage, Contra was ruined. Its SNES ports were butchered. SOTN was cool though, and FF9.

>>388080605
All the wrestling games on the N64 were great

>>388080751
Gradius 4 wasn't on PS1, it was Gradius Gaiden aka The Best One

>>388080784
Going by sales numbers, the N64 wrestling games (combined with the popularity of wrestling at the time) is what saved the N64 in America.

>>388080580
64 was good if you had friends but ps1 was perfect for weeb shut ins. SSB and MarioParty were pferfect games for fucking up your friends till halo came out. But if you wanted some weeb jrpg ps was where it was at.

>>388081037

Gradius Gaiden sucked, 3 was the best, followed by 5.

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The best game that generation was on Playstation

>>388081341
nah, gaiden kicks ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6wZld4JHa4

>>388081283
Don't even forget golden eye holy fuck perfect fuck your friend games.

hmmmm, let me think

>varied game library

or

>7 Mario games and 2 Zelda games

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>>388081432
Sure was.

>>388081283
I never disputed the ps1 being king of weeb rpgs. If that's someones taste then they will naturally think ps1 is superior but for someone like me who has to be in control and in the action it just doesn't work.

>>388078571
Imagine an offhand remark you made in the 1990's becomes its own meme.
Mr "playshitstation" is out there somewhere right now. Kek.

>>388081341
3 was the best but r type 3 and delta are better.

>>388077776
Literally not even a contest. Too many 64 games fell for the 3d meme

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>>388081540
pretty much. people also like to juxtapose the comparison with "quality vs quantity" when, in fact, ps1 had both.

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>>388078656
Sony pony here. I like these ones that i have.

>>388081769
And Darius Gaiden / G Darius are better than those.

>>388079732
Colours are nice on righty there... Not sure about that d-pad though anon...

>>388081540
>varied game library of shit

Ftfy. Let's just call it what it is. It's like comparing 7000 925 silver nuggets to 20 nuggets of pure gold. Maybe some idiots would choose the silver thinking they're getting more. They're not and they are indeed idiots.

>>388081932
It's the best D-Pad ever, friend. The only pad I use for fighting games and shmups.

>>388079746
still funny though that the best ps1 game is basically a nintendo game

Watcho talkin' bout Willis?

>>388077776
Playstation for me. I'm literally emulating a playstation game right now. The last time I played a 64 game was years ago (ogre battle 64).

>>388081910
Look I love me some twin and supernova but they are not even in the same universe as r type. Now if you would have said thunder force... you would have had something.

>>388080093
Thats an argument for another day though anon, doean't help the N64 one bit.

>>388081995
Symphony of the night is a rarity in the ps1 library and falls more in line with the 16 bit konami golden age. It's a snes game basically.

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>>388080170
Anon you can stop pretending that MOST people had a decent PC let alone a decent GAMING PC in 1997
>but i did!
WOOOOOOO anecdotes! Sure FFVII got a PC releasein 1998, but sold like what? 10,000 copies at best? Compared to the shattering numbers it did on PSX? Let's not get revisionist here because a few of us played Civilisation on our PC's whilst the vast, vast, VAST majoraty played on PSX. vast.

The more people you had the better the N64 was. PS was the better single player system. Two player was pretty even. For 3+ Sony wasn't even in the game.

You played FF7 alone. Goldeneye was for friends.

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>2D sprites games in the 64 could have been more prevalent if Nintendo didn't threaten the developers into just making 3D games almost all the time.

Just look at Wonder Project, too bad it was never released in america.

>>388081953

>doenst know under immense preasure coal transforms into diamonds

enjoy your 'gold'
PS1 had quantity and quality faggot

The only way I see arguing in favour of the 64 is if all you play is platformers and racing games.

>>388081990
Really? So its not just like the genesis d-pad? I had a genesis/megadrive and i thought that d-pad was bad when my PlayStation came along in 1997

>>388082218
I don't think thats a good argument anon.
REmake is just a PSX game basically...

Sounds silly to me.

>>388082373
it's like a softer, smoother megadrive pad, definitely leagues ahead of the ps1 pads for 2D games

>>388081990

d-pad seperated into 4 pieces > dpad molded into one

I'm sorry, these kinda of d-pads are prone to input errors, but maybe that's just me.

>>388078921

I remember one day in gym class like 80% of the class didn't show up. Everyone was sick as shit from something going around. So my gym teacher brought out his N64 that he had put in his office and we all just played 1080 for the entire period. Good times.

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N64 for party and multiplayer game which everyone played at that time.

PSX for everything else

If you had friends over it was always the n64 that got played.

>>388082298
I will enjoy my gold while you enjoy your silver but since you decided to bring diamonds into it you're actually right for the first time in your short neet trailertrash life. 64 is more like diamonds and the ps1 is cubic zirconia. Did your mommy get you a used ps1 and some crack for sucking the drug dealing neighbors dick? Bet she gave you a big ole fat kiss that night too.

>>388082774

>20 mario games
>diamonds

you must be at least 18 to post here

>>388082452
This isn't an argument. SotN is one of my favorite games of all time but it does play and feel like a snes game. This isn't that hard to comprehend anon, are you ok? What's your deal?

>>388082914
>SotN is one of my favorite games of all time
Bait.

>>388082218
this is stupid as hell, the point is that all the good franchises that established themselves on the snes moved to the ps1. that's one of the main reasons why the ps1 was better, it was more of a successor to the snes than the n64 was.

>>388077776

N64 for speedrunning, PSX for casual play.

>>388082774
Unless all you enjoy is platforming and racing I dunno what you see in the 64. I owned both growing up and the ps1 got way more play time.

>>388082914
The ps1 perfected the SNES formula. Look at secret of mana to legend of mana for example.

PS1 felt like Annual Releases: The Console

>>388082545
I dunno, I tend to be a hell of a lot more precise with a single-piece d-pad

>>388078249

Pretty fuckin impressive DESU. Never seen this before. I bet the shit indie VR developers of 20 years from now will try making this kind of shit

>>388082914

>does play and feel like a snes game

you are not wrong, but the graphics look far superior to any game on snes. i know i know, who cares about graphics.

>>388082909
>you must be at least 18 to post here

Only people who ever say that are projecting summer kids. When does hike school start billy? Does your mommy need some more money again? You tell her I'll help her out but this will be the last time.

>>388083064
S A V A G E
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>>388083064

>again with the mommy reference

so this is the power of nintodlers trash talk

>>388078249

I've been emulating this lately and it's the definition of comfy. I had forgotten how great the music was.

>>388082982
Secret of Mana is a 1000x better than legend so what are you even saying? The snes is the greatest system of all time by far. Next you're going to say some equally stupid shit like chronocross is better than trigger. Luckily I'm sitting in a break room making 32 an hour or I wouldn't even bother replying to you so make your next post count.

>>388083007

i supposed its preference, but as an idort, i still have ptsd from playing fighting games on 360 d-pad, DS4 and xbone d-pads are currently much better imo

>>388083257
The only thing wrong with the SNES is Link to the Past and Super Mario World not getting proper sequels because of Nintendo's dumb as fuck focus on Satellaview.

>>388083257

Whoa look out guys! We got us an internet badass over here.

>>388083258
oh the og xbox and 360 d-pads are stiff garbage, nothing like the saturn pad

>>388083031
>far superior

You haven't played very many snes games if you believe that.

>>388083257
Legend is better than Secret. I enjoy both Trigger and Cross. Seiken Densetsu 3 is equal or better than Legend. The SNES is the best nintendo console of all time but ps1 is about on par.

I didn't ask for you personal life.

>>388083391
snes can't do proper sprite scaling/rotations without it looking like a mess, has a more limited color palette, can't accomplish the same visual effects and doesn't support as many layers. say what you will about art design but sotn was far ahead of any snes game graphically.

>>388083303
Plenty of other good action rpgs and platformers to overlook that and sure... yoshis island isn't a real sequel but it's one hell of a good game.

This whole generation sucked and it's mostly a matter of which sucked less. And the answer to that is the Saturn, followed by the N64.

>>388083525
This is what happens when you spend too long playing "who can be the biggest contrarian"

>>388083431
I disagree on multiple levels but you can have your opinion, even if it's wrong. There's no self respecting publication that would ever put the ps1 on par with the snes. Was the ps1 your first console or something? That would be the only excuse for these thoughts because it's clear you didn't grow up with all these systems.

>>388083525
Almost all of the Saturn's best games are Japanese only. It's not like you could go on Amazon and just order some imports in the early 90's.

PS1 > N64 > Saturn.

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>>388083391

post a single walking animation that has this many frames drawn on the snes

>>388083650
>There's no self respecting publication that would ever put the ps1 on par with the snes.
This is the stupidest non-argument.

>>388079570
underage pls

>>388083650
The NES was my first console. FF1 was my first rpg Castlevania was my first platformer. For the next gen I owned a SNES and loved the hell out of it, then I owned a ps1 and a 64, preferred the ps1.

I'm in my late 20s, and the way you instantly begin talking down to people you disagree with is pretty cunty.

>>388079732
it's a more ergonomic genesis controller

Sega should have stuck to their guns and focused on making the Saturn a timeless 2D powerhouse

but no
the kids wanted the hip and trendy polygons

>>388077776
PS1 had by far the most variety in games.
PS1's main drawbacks were the nauseating glitchy graphics and load times but emulators can fix that nowadays.
N64 was still a decent console.

>>388083712
Do you not even realize how much that looks exactly like a snes game and nothing like a ps1 game? Why are you even arguing with me at this point?

>>388082240
Well so what? I get the majority of you were poor but that's not my problem. The thing I hate about Playstation is that people always say it's the best gaming machine when it was always second rate to PC or Nintendo. Even to this day people pretend the first or second Playstation was "amazing" even if they had shit performance.

>>388083650

>There's no self respecting publication that would ever put the ps1 on par with the snes

this is some next level bait

Also
>self respecting publication
in the video game industry? hahhahhaahahhahhahh

it's funny how there's praise for ps1 and saturn pads ITT but nobody has mentioned the N64 controller

>>388083892

holy shit how retarded are you?

>2D sprite
>hurr looks exactly like snes game

are you THAT graphically illiterate?

>>388083819
I'm pretty much the exact same and if that is true then I would have expected you to know better. To each their own though, I know a lot of people who got really into the ps1.

>>388083586
Early 3D is mostly garbage where developers struggled to make video games because they essentially had to relearn how making a game works again.
Once we got to the next Gen people had made enough trash to know what works, and what doesn't. The PS2 library is excellent, in both quality and quantity, and the Gamecube had plenty of great games.
>>388083675
This is true but I never found the point in arguing for the consoles in the time period as now the consoles real worth is the games that are worth going and playing now. And on that Criteria the PS1 has surprisingly few games worth playing.

>>388084043
Well a lot of my favourite series continues from SNES to ps1, so I think it makes sense. Castlevania, FF, megaman, mana, etc. I love both systems, it would be tough to call for me. Enjoy your break bud.

>>388084098
>And on that Criteria the PS1 has surprisingly few games worth playing.
As someone who has a decent saturn import collection, this is false.

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>>388084098
Even the Xbox had good stuff, every console was worth owning in the 6th gen and it was the last time each console had its own identity.

>>388084098
The ps1 has a ton of fantastic 2d games though. The only 3d game I think I really enjoy on the ps1 is vagrant story. I still play 2d ps1 games regularly, in fact I'm beating FF1 on ps1 as I write this.

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>>388083892

>literally half the frames on SotN

>>388077776
For really brilliant stories, art, and puzzle games, PS1.

For infinitely replayable action gameplay, N64.

>>388082945
>bait
>one of the greatest games of all time

Not him but go fuck yourself retard.

>>388084340
>Painfully easy, braindead easy by being incredibly easy to stumble upon ways to break the gae
>Platforming aspect is very quickly made boring because you can turn into a bat and fly.
>Inverted Castle is a chore because the platforming is boring
>Levels are largely uninteresting corridors filled with enemies
>Have to beat the game to play as the fun modes
>Can chow down on health items and shit on a whim
>There are dingy RPG elements that just bloat the menus and barely matter at all
If style over substance is what qualifies something for 'greatest game of all time' then sure but gameplay was that game is horrifically mediocre.

>>388084164
I have every system under the sun and a 1000 games but I'm forever stuck in the 16 bit world. Rare case when game past that era was on the same level. Good break, back to work. Enjoy your buds bud, I'll enjoy mine in 5 hours.

>>388084207
Not to mention that Xbox has the best versions of many multiplats.
>>388084223
>>388084193
Shoot go ahead and list shit. I really do want to find more PS1 games worth playing.

>>388084483
It's like you just hate Metroidvanias.

>>388084715
What genres?

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Totally different guys

>>388084775
>I have never played either game

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>>388084716
Super Metroid is my favorite game of all time and Aria of Sorrow is pretty solid too, Symphony of the Night is just incredibly average all around except presentation values which are meaningless when the actual gameplay is so bland.

Aria of Sorrow improved on just about all of Symphony of the Night's shortcomings and added new elements to the formula in the form of Souls which added a lot of replay value to the game, the level design also has more verticality to it that can't be negated with early obtained powerups and there is actually some semblance of challenge to the fights like with Death.

>>388084483
>play fps
>just runnin around just shootin stuff

>play 3ps
>just runnin around just shootin stuff

ok

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>>388082914
This isn't an argument. Resident Evil REmake is one of my favorite games of all time but it does play and feel like a PSX game. This isn't that hard to comprehend anon, are you ok? What's your deal?

>>388084860
you're not wrong about anything

>>388084767
I mostly enjoy platformers and action(any good action RPGs?) games and fighting games, but will go for about anything, especially good multiplayer.
Goes double for kinda oddball games.

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>>388079681
Yeah?

Not a lot of actual game lists here. Top 10 PS1 games anyone? Need more to add to my backlog so I can judge this fairly.

>>388083905
>PSX sells well
>"doesn't matter, we all just played multiplats on PC. We wern't poor."
>PS2 sells REALLY well
>"i-it was just a DVD player, we couldn't buy a stand alone DVD player in 1999 before tge PS2 came out! We were poor POOR!

???

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Do you guys feel sorry for current teens, who had most/all their gaming childhoods in the post-2007 casual gaming DLC-infested world and never played ps1?

>>388085125
That has nothing to do with anything I said.

>>388081432
To this day nothing has topped the explosive impact of this game.

>>388085125
What

>>388085125
It's like the other back peddle argument:
>PS2 only sold as well as it did because of piracy. Nothing more.
>P-PIRACY KILLED THE DREAMCAST! FUCK PIRACY! WRONG KID DIED REEEEEEEEEEE

There is always an excuse, even if it's the same one.

>>388085226
SM64 and OoT had more impact on the industry as a whole Anon. MGS is up there though.

>>388085125
PS2 really was sold as a DVD player though.
For a good 2 years after release it was still one of the cheapest DVD players you could buy.

It's not the only reason it sold, but it was a huge selling point for parents and certainly gave it an edge over Gamecube that had no DVD playback and Xbox which required a $25 add-on.

>>388085089
Any of the castlevanias. Megaman X 4. For action rpgs you might enjoy Vagrant Story, Valkyrie profile is sort of a hybrid between action and turn based, Star Ocean 2 or Legend of Mana (beautiful game).

Pretty sure Saturn had the definitive version of most fighting games, but theses days you'd play any of those on fightcade either way.

>>388085310
>MGS is up there though.
Yes you can thank it for all the 'cinematic experiences'.

>>388077776
in the end, It doesn't even matter

>>388085240
>>388085194

Don't pretend to be dumb boys, in every stupid console war thread i am told, PAX was full of multiplats played on PC, and that we could deffo afford decent PC's for gaming in 1997. Likewise, every stupid Console wat thread about PS2, people are suddenly poor as fuck, and the PS2 was their only chance at EVER affording a DVD player, aparently this was just not possible to buy a stand alone DVD player in 1999, we were suddenly just all too poor.

So which is it? Were we poor or not? Or does it only matter if a Sony platfrom is literally shifting numbers?

>>388084715
Okay, here's a laundry list of PS1 games I think are still appreciable today, non of which are multiplat:

Vagrant Story
Metal Gear Solid
Dragon Quest VII
Silent Hill
Ghost in the Shell
Alundra
Strider 2
Einhander
R-Type Delta
Gradius Gaiden
G-Darius
Klonoa
Tomba
Umihara Kawase Shun
Wonder Trek
Lup Salad
Intelligent Qube
Gussun Paradise
Tetris with Cardcaptor Sakura
Lots of Bemani games

>If you know moonspeak
Moon Remix RPG Adventure
ufo a day in the life
The Silver Case
Twilight Syndrome series
Yuuyami Doori Tankentai

>>388085387
Sure if you wanna be cynical over it. But it did push the standards people held for voice acting and story presentation. It's not all bad Anon.

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>>388085536
Metal Gear Solid is multiplat though.

>>388085536
>Dragon Quest VII
>Not multiplat
You sure about that?

>>388085495
You're stupid as fuck. I got money, the majority of people don't. I said the Playstation sold because it was a cheap gaming machine and its performance was ass. And yes, it did sold because it was a DVD player. Everyone dropped VHS.

>>388085594
>>388085604
within its generation, yall

>>388085536
>Gradius Gaiden
excellent game but was ported to PSP

>>388085594
That got a PC release. And not an arguably fucked up remake like TTS.

>>388085346
Yeah I hate that there doesn't seem to be many fighters worth playing on PS1, and I think I already have my oddball picks for that covered with Angel Eyes and Slap Happy Rhythm Busters
>>388085536
Thanks, pretty much what I was looking for

>>388085325
>For a good 2 years after release it was still one of the cheapest DVD players you could buy.

Not arguing thst having a DVD player was not a great thing to have, but this statement is simply false. A DVD player could be purchased for less than £100 by two years after the PS2 release

>>388085613

3rd party support for PS raped the living shit out of n64 or even PC, enjoy not playing games.

>>388085797
I had a PC, retard

>>388085495
That anon is literally the first time I've read the rich enough for PC argument, and while i disagree with him on the PS1 i do agree that 2 was the worst hardware of the gen and "won" in spite of that and not the opposite. Was it because it's DVD player was demanded? Was it because of piracy? Just because it came after the PS1's success? I dunno, It's a mix of all of it, but it's funny how people like you are still triggered by anons speculating instead of just calling it the best thing ever

>>388078604
>Kiddie shit
bahahahahahaha

>>388077776
Who cares, we just emulate them nowadays.

>>388079307
>says shittendo unironically
>gta is the best
There's a place called 2nd grade you shouldnt have gotten past.

>>388081432
MGS is life

>>388085792
Maybe in Blighty, in Aus (my experience) DVD players from brand-names (Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Toshiba, LG etc) were still around AUD$450-599 in 2002, with the PS2 at AUD$729 (regularly at $649 in sales)
PS2 certainly had a value as more than just a decent DVD player but also a games console.
Even my grandparents got one... and they didn't play games (but thought the extra functionality would be good for when all the grandkids were around, they also had an N64 and an Atari 2600 Jnr, the 2600 was the most played)

By the end of 2002 you could buy a no-name DVD players for ~$199 and lesser brands for $299-$249 (TEAC, Sanyo, Samsung at the time, etc)

>>388083169
I'm willing to bet all you do is play GTA V and scream at your parents and play shitty rap music.

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>>388079059
Age old reminder that Crash Team Racing is literally infinitely superior to Mario Kart 64

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Playstation has the best racing games
THE BEST

N64 until I got to play WipEout 2097, didn't even knew 64 existed.

>>388085139
No, I feel sorry for people the grew up in/learned culture norms in the early 2000's. The JNCO, rap rock, nu metal, frosted tip, oakley sunglasses, TRL, Livejournal generation is by far the worst and most useless generation so far. Even kids growing up now know how worthless 20 somethings are these days. I thought my generation, being born in the 80's was bad but holy shit you guys born in the early-mid 90's either can't do your job right or just refuse to work.

>>388085950
>That anon is literally the first time I've read the rich enough for PC argument

Really?
>why do you say PSX was better than N64?
>mgs and ffvii
>but those are multiplats anon!!

Hmm...

>>388078490
That's really neat. Is that official and is there more stuff like that?

>>388087174
>in Aus

Everything is more expensive in AUS

>>388082720
Crash Team Racing with multitap son. I played many an hour.

For the PS2 it was Timesplitters with the multitap.

>>388090327
I'm talking specifically about the monetary aspect. Usually people mention the multiplat nature of those games as answer to the fanboys that argue they wouldn't exist without Sony, or that people should consider them Sony franchises because they didn't even know about the ports

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>/v/ hates how cinematic games are nowadays
>Sony/PlayStation literally started the cinematic experience meme
Why does /v/ love Sony so much if they're the reason this type of cancer plagues the industry?

>>388079168
I actually hope you fucking kill yourself because of how goddamn embarrassing your post was.

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>>388091087
because everyone else started something and we dont like anything they are doing
we hate microsoft the most
we h

>>388085116
holy shit is the Duke Nukem 3D review in this image written by Angry Joe?

PS1 had Crash and Spyro so ps1 is the clear winner.
However N64 had the better version of Rayman 2 so Fairplay.

>>388091087
>/v/ LOVES Sony you guys
>majority of the thread is desperately searching for excuses as to why the PS1 sold so they can continue to vehemently refuse to admit that the PS1 and PS2 were good consoles

>>388087390
>Age old reminder that Crash Team Racing is literally infinitely superior to Mario Kart 64

And still not as good as DKR

>>388077776

Playstation if you love games

N64 if you love muh 3D over artstyle

>>388091087
Arguably the very advent of 3D opened the way for the cinematic experiences, and that's ok, as cinematic as it was MGS still excelled in the gamey parts so nothing to complain about there. Modern Sony on the other hand, yeah, i couldn't give less of a damn about the likes of Uncharted or The Order. But then again /v/ isn't one person, and you will find people that have high opinions of those games

>>388091595
Probably because Sony shitposting has gotten so cancerously rampant within the last few years that people retroactively shit on their consoles.

>>388091595
Are you that one anon still butthurt about the PC anon?

>>388077776
at the time playstation. The best N64 games were better than the best PS games, but there's just so many more PS games that were still good overall.
Right now though, with so much many other options available I find myself emulating N64 more though.

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>Ctrl+f
>no Snowboard kids.
come on guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfOToUgjVbI&spfreload=10

>>388090890
Thats fine but lets not pretend there is but ONE multiplatfrom machine of choice each gen. Just because you COULD play MGS and FFVII on PC doesn't mean if you ask the cast, vast, vast majoraty what they played it, they will say "PC of course" that just isn't the case.

>>388079059
Why is Star Fox 64 always forgotten

>>388078160
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc3AK8k90xw

>>388092257
Man, Sega really took their commercials seriously

>>388077776
PlayStation. N64 had some amazing titles, Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, but in the end it was held back by the cartridge format. You didn't get the CD quality audio, you couldn't use it as a CD player, and the library seems very limited compared to the PlayStation. I know N64 got ports of a lot of PlayStation titles, like Resident Evil 2, but despite having better character models they were just inferior versions of the game. The audio wasn't as good, the cutscenes weren't as good, and the game itself was blurry. This was pretty much the case for most N64 ports.

>>388084207
>only on xbox
>only on xbox
>only on xbox
Xbone team take notes

>>388077776
For a kid who wasn't able to choose his own games, N64. The best titles were well known and a safe bet. For anyone else Playstation, by a smaller margin if you only had a small amount to play for time/money reasons.

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>design the controller for aliens so you could also play 2D games
>make basically no 2D games at all
Literally why

>>388078160
Dude, I had a Saturn, it really wasn't a good console. The only game I really remember enjoying on it was Die Hard Arcade.

>>388092815
This. The PS1 was better for single player games, the N64 was great for multiplayer. I still have vivid memories of going to my friends house and playing Smash or Golden Eye and loving them.

That being said the PS1 was better overall. I know a lot of people in this thread are trying to argue "quality over quantity :^)" but the PS1 had games that were just as highly rated as N64 games, plus the whole argument is extremely subjective and you might as well be saying "I like this console more, so it's better" which is a retards argument.

It's factually true that the PS1 had better third party support, and it had a fuckton of games in a ton of genres. You would miss out on a ton of survival horror and racing games with only an N64, and you wouldn't get to play any stealth games or good JRPGs either.

Also Dual Shock is way, way better than the N64 pad. The analog stick on the N64 pad always had stack in it, which is something that is just not excusable.

PS1 had both quantity and quality, N64 was so lacking that you would miss huge chunks of genre defining games if you only had an N64.

>>388078747
Driver was a terrible game, man

>>388085116
Sony never called it the PSX and thats all that matters

>>388084483
This is the worst post currently on /v/

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>>388078656
Pafekuto Daku 64

>>388078857
Goddamn /v/ has shit taste sometimes. How.can you not enjoy SM64 all the time? Also still have fun 100%-ing Majora

>>388097660
I played this split-screen recently, I don't remember the framerate tanking quite so spectacularly, especially when it has to render the smoke effect.

Obviously the Playstation, you'd have to be a fucking retard to think otherwise and I hate those kikes at Sony.

>>388077776
PS1

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If you didn't have a playstation and this game when you were younger then you had a shit life and your parents probably molested you too.

>>388078160
All 3 were really good but the Saturn was the worst of those 3.

>N64
Better best games.

>PSX
Better games overall.

>>388085554
oh c'mon man the voice acting in mgs is so bad and the story even more amateurish.

Fallout 1 came out a year prior and it's superior in both aspects.

>>388098969

I had Tekken 3 and SFA3. I enjoyed Alpha 3 way more.

>>388099034
Fallout's voice acting was mediocre and the setting and lore were unique but the overarching story was meh.

>>388078656
DKR is still the best cart race ever made. MP2 hasn't been surpassed either. It's a weaker library but it's got more than 3 worthwhile games

>>388099093
I had SFA3 and Darkstalkers, I liked Darkstalkers more.

>>388078857
>San Francisco Rush

Fuck that game, going into a turn and having the game dip into sub 15 FPS fucking ruins the game. Wipeout and F Zero X were smart enough to keep their FPS at a stable 60, this alone makes them superior racing games.

>>388085797
PC had more exclusives than PS1 back in those days

It wasn't until Xbox where MS convinced devs to port all their PC games over to Consoles

>>388099203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wriaT32v2T0

I will never understand how someone can watch this and go "clearly a masterpiece in storytelling and voice acting"?
How can someone tolerate so much angst and awkwardness?

>>388079168

What.... You are fucking dumb

>>388077776
>3D Power
N64 > PS1 > Saturn
>Software (western releases)
PS1 > N64 > Saturn
>Software (all releases)
PS1 > Saturn > N64

>>388100078
For 1998 it was a big deal, I can't even think of anything else that comes close to it in terms of emotional scenes with voice acting.

PSX

I dont hate n64 tho. I wish 5th gen bros would get along.

>>388098969
I got this game for free because I rented some other game and this was also in the case.

The very best games of that gen are on the N64.

The most amount of good/great games are on the PS1.

>>388077932
But Blur was for the PS3, and Warped is also Playstation. What the hell are you on about?

>>388077776
PSX had more games, N64 had better games

Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Super Mario 64
Mario Kart 64
Super Smash Bros
Diddy Kong Racing
Starfox 64
Banjo Kazooie
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark

What group of 10 PS1 games could be better than this?

>>388077776
The playstation. Literally everything by nintendo is shit, why even have this thread you fucking retard?I bet you're some stupid fucking underrage nintenkiddie sympathizer for even daring to act like they could be on the same level to even be compared like this. You're a fucking insult to everyone involved.

>>388102580
cant even argue with blind faboyism like this,could list 10 best games in the world that arent nintendo exclusives and you would say no

>>388102580
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 9
Chrono Cross
Vagrant Story
Einhander
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Crash Bandicoot
Spyro
Legend of Dragoon

Sit the fuck down, cocksucking nintendrumpft fancuck.

>>388103024
And you can't even come up with a comparable list either. If you can't argue then shut the fuck up and admit defeat.

>>388101081
Upboated

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>>388077776

>>388102580
this man didn't even put the kirby game in there

what the fuck dude

>>388100735
again fallout

N64 undoubtedly.

>>388077776
The Playshitstation just because Nintendorks were too dumb to call it the Playshittin

Playstation shat all over the N64.

>>388077776
Only a casual would ask this question. For anybody else, the answer is clear.

>>388079412
>2d GTA trash

how to spot /v/ faggot from /v/ good user

>>388081698
Don't kid yourself he probably died of diabetes.

>>388082240
>WOOOOOOO anecdotes! Sure FFVII got a PC releasein 1998, but sold like what? 10,000 copies at best? Compared to the shattering numbers it did on PSX? Let's not get revisionist here because a few of us played Civilisation on our PC's whilst the vast, vast, VAST majoraty played on PSX. vast.

so ? literally same situtation with today.
FFXV gonna release on PC , gonna sell what 10.000 copies at best.

Nintentards still believing their gay ass system is better then PS1 when PS1 sold 3x more then their shit.

>>388077776

>anyone saying anything but PS1

libraries were fucking nothing to compare. only thing n64 had was multiplayer, the good fortune to have Rare in their prime, and good first parties. The N64 Mini is going to be depressing.

>>388080093
>>388080093

sonybreathers still SEETHING over this shit. That and when RE4 was a timed exclusive. I do find it fucking amazing that the purple lunchbox could play every main RE game including Code Veronica up to that point.

>>388081235

Attitude Era man. Fucking hell. Doesn't hurt that this was during the time when wrestling games were actually treated like fighting games and not the meme simulators they are now.

>>388077776
PS1

>>388082268

>if Nintendo

Sony was liable for this too. If Klonoa wasn't 2.5D it would have never released.

>>388090805

>Timesplitters on PS2
>not Nightfire on GCN (or TS2/Future Perfect)

>>388079168
>a terrible game that came outbyesterday means a good game from 20 years ago is bad
Fuckin kek

>>388106970
Nightfire was the shit

>>388084207
>Even the Xbox had good stuff

KEK it was the halo machine and you know it. Ps2 and even the Gamecube library absolutely stomp on the huegbawks. And this is coming from a collectorfag.

>>388084775

>I didn't play Dracula X i just assumed it and Rondo were the same game.

>>388079570
Those weren't on the PS1 of you fucking moron.

>>388085125

>denying that the DVD factor wasn't a HUGE play into the PS2 sales

trust me i was a EBGames/GameCrazy store clerk back then. The multitasking sold parents like clockwork. GTA helped too. The weeb uprising being mostly on PS2 contributed as well.

>>388105617
>3x more then their shit.
More like 30x

>>388085668

>TTS SUCKED GUISE

still seething huh?

>BUT FPS RUINED THE DIFFICULTY, MUH CHINESE STEREOTYPE VA'S, MATRIX BULLSHIT

all passable flaws considering Kojima's involvement and his reasoning (TTS is the legend, MGS is the true accounts)

>>388098986
The complete Saturn library including all the Japanese region exclusives shits all over the N64. This was also reflected in Japanese sales, where the Saturn outsold the N64. The N64 lost that generation.

>>388103163
>FF8 and 9
>chrono cross

We're talking about good games here, sir.

>>388108076
>FF9 sucks
>Chrono Cross sucks
Do you even like JRPGs? Let me guess, only if they're on SNES.

>>388108076
>chrono cross
>not good
Say that to me irl faggot

>>388106970
When I say Timesplitters, I think 2 and Future Perfect are implied.

>>388108172

the music was the only good thing about Cross. Fuck Cross.

>>388108076
>>388108127
>>388108172
Chrono Cross and FFVIII sucks but FFIX is a masterpiece.

On the N64 you were sttuck sucking on the Nintendo dick
I dont like Mario or zelda, I'm not either 3 or a gamergirl
Thank God for 3RD party on the Ps1,
1on1 PS1 shits on the N64 and fganboys still haven't recovered

nintendroomptards btfo yet again

>>388078656
f zero
mario parties
mario tennis
mario kart
dk racing
conker's bad fur day
perfect dark (and golden eye if you want the inferior version)
super smash bros

all still definitely solid, fun games to play multiplayer

PS was better if you were a shut in with no mates or just one friend that you played 2 player games with.
N64 was better if you were a wholesome young lad who enjoyed playing video games with a few bros during sleepovers .

>>388109008
>wholesome young lad who enjoyed playing video games with a few bros during sleepovers
AKA casual

>>388081432
this is true

I feel sorry for my casual friends and the younger generation who only knew mgs through "the twin snakes" adaption.

PSX if you like games, pixelated distortion, music, FMVs and don't mind loading times.

N64 if you love Nintendo 1st party games, smudged blur, 4player split screen squinting matches and don't mind waiting years for ports (of like the 2nd game only out of a trilogy).

For me Playstation won big time with exclusives like Tenchu, Legend of Mana, RR Type 4, Tekken 3, MGS, Hearts of Darkness, Final Doom (PSX version is unique) and so on.

>>388109008
N64 didnt have a single Dragon ball game
Get fucked

>>388090805
ctr and crash bash were both great party games but other than that and maybe shitty proto-fifa the only 3 or 4 player games that are any good from that generation are on the n64.

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>>388078604

>>388085536
G Darius is awesome

>>388109095
casual who'd kick your kiester at any of those

>>388091087
>nintengaf
>loving sony

>>388081432
I unironically cried tears of joy when I heard "the best is yet to come" for the first time and watching the Alaskan wildlife clips during the end credits.

>>388098969
I played this shit so much holy shit

>>388081432
this game is a piece of shit and I will never understand the love for it outside of playing it when you were twelve

>>388096029
what the fuck man

>>388078160
The Saturn was garbage in America. Literally no games and the Saturn ports were worse optimized than the PS1 versions. It's a shame since the Saturn has some legit good games but they're only in Japan untranslated, region locked, and emulators suck.

>>388109774
Same can be swaid of every ninty game except you have to half the age

PS1 in LAN > N64 split screen

I don't understand this fixation on N64 split screen multiplayer. It's probably perpetuated by dumb lazy Americans, who ignore that PS1 had a multitap. Actually, PS1 probably had more 4 player supported releases then N64.

Also, PS1 had 8 player games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91iKUL9v_tg

>>388077776
childhood was idolizing nintendo
adulthood was realizing that playstation was the true patrician console

N64 had some really good stuff.
I still like PSX better.