Why are p3fags so fucking annoying?

I enjoyed both P3 and 5 a lot. I didn't like P4 at all, but I only watched the anime.

>>388058292
Most P3 fans liked 5. It's just 4 that was shit.

>>388058292

i've beaten persona 3 and 5 and played a little bit of persona 4

i assume anyone who says p3 is their favorite hasn't played it in a long time and forgot just how awful tartarus is and how annoying it is grinding for levels.

i did like how seriously it took itself and its themes and the plot was pretty good for the last half of the game (everything before shinji dying was kinda meh), but the actual gameplay was not that fun.

that is as someone who played FES though and had to deal with ally AI, P3P may not have been that bad since you have direct control

>>388058292
They were quite young when they first played P3. I mean, I understand preferring the game over the others, but they treat it like if it was the best game of all time when it has some glaring flaws.

>>388059116
I like p3 but the sick and tired system always gets to me

>>388059104
I played all 3 this year. P3 was my favorite, followed closely by P5. P4 was a good game but was the worst of the three.

They're all amazing games though.

>>388059254
The tired system adds nothing to the game.
>Too tired to go to Tartarus but wakes up at 6 am to go to school
The game being balanced on the AI making dumb mistakes and people claiming FES is harder instead of more annoying because of it. The first half of the game is shit.
Party members missing stinks.

Pretty sure there's more things I'm missing.

>>388059678
Mitsuru's AI deserves it's own mentioning. by the end of the game all she does is marin karin and tentarafoo if you let her act freely

>>388058292
P4 fans.
>Persona 3 is too dark and edgy.
>Persona 5 has a shitty story and the characters aren't nearly as likeable.
Nothing will ever make them happy.

P5 fans.
>Persona 3 is too dark and edgy, and Tartarus is literally bowel cancer. Palaces are WAY better.
>Persona 4 is just and inferior version of 5.
Nothing will ever make them happy.

Persona 1-2 fans.
>Persona post P2 is shitty weeb cancer.
>Social links are garbage.
Nothing will ever make them happy.

All round Persona fans.
>These Persona games are fun.
Everything makes them happy.

>>388061231
I wish this wasn't accurate.

>>388058292
Persona 5 is way closer to 4 than 3 though

p2 (both) > p3 > p5 > p4 > p1 desu
fite me

>>388061231
but persona 3-5 is very weeb
it's like dexter's lab becoming dexter we dont want that

>>388061231
I like every persona but 4.

4 is still a good game but its not as good as the others.

>>388061231
>mfw P1/2/4/5fag

I hate Persona 3's main cast besides Fuuka and Da Man and Tartarus.

>>388058292

If it makes you feel any better, it's the Persona I liked the least.

>>388063442
>proving his point

>>388058292
>>Persona 5 just redoes the Persona 3 formula
What?
How? I'm a total p3fag, and I don't see how the plot of the Phantom Thieves matches S.E.E.S at all

>>388063983
not story wise, tartarus v. mementos, makoto v. mitsuru, edogawa v. takemi medicine

>>388063786
it's true i loved 1-2 but 3-5 it changed it got rid of all the cool stuff like status effects and types of attacks and if you didnt know some stuff is a jojo reference in 3 you would think it's very edgy it still is but not as much if you know jojo

>>388064385
Man, i'll give you all of those, but three similarities out of such huge fucking games seems feeble.

I feel like, with the inclusions of palace's, the Mementos/Tartarus comparison isn't as damning.

>>388064728
How is edgy an actual complaint coming from you P2 anons? And besides all of those countless damage types you guys covet so much are very rarely used in Persona 1.

Can anyone explain why Yukari and Junpei get so much love? Every time I start to warm up to them, they go on this whiny temper tantrum and long-term passive aggressive behavior in Junpei's case, and people say this makes them good characters because this makes them "realistic".

Do people act like than in America or something? Because I live in Asia and if you act like than in Asia, people will tell you to fuck off until you get a better attitude.

It's truth, and I'm a newfag who got into persona by P5
3 > 5 > 4

>>388065594

I don't know why people like Junpei. I liked Yukari though, but she seemed less whiney in Japanese. Maybe it was just my own inexperience with the language at the time and I missed her bitchiness, it has been a while since I've played it. Or maybe someone on the localization team fucked up.

>>388065594
They grow as characters, and they drop those traits as S.E.E.S grows as a team.

In Junpei's case, he realizes he's being a bitch and decides to move past it and help the team

>>388058292
At least P4 and P5's gameplay doesnt make you want to use your very own Evoker

Persona 4 was ok, but replaying through that game is like pulling teeth, and the end game wasnt particularly good

Persona 5 showed a lot of potential and grabbed my interest but in a lot of moments they played it too fucking safe making the overall experience boring

>>388063786
>>388064728

I much prefer 1-2 myself, but you can't pretend they aren't "weeb", they're just a different type. I mean, just look at Eikichi alone. He goes from a random thug to a guy who beats up monsters with a guitar case and a magical creature called a Persona. Don't even get me started on Hitler.

>>388065447
the shooting self in head
katana wielding all black final boss
emo protag
the theme of the game death it would be okay but mixed in with the other stuff it becomes
The Reaper it's cool but with the other stuff it becomes edgy
Shinjiro Aragaki
the emo designs

>>388065594
Junpei is the one character in all of media where normies on /v/ are willing to look past him being an asshole and flout his character development. Nevermind that there are a bunch of Junpeis throughout the Persona series that don't get his amount of dick sucking from normies.

I hate how you make a p4 thread and immediately they try to take over.

>>388066095
you saying jojo is weeb

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I love Fuuka

>>388066641
FUUKA BRO??!?!?

>>388066172
>the shooting self in head
Fair enough, I suppose. As edgy as it might be though, it still fit with the themes of the whole game.

>katana wielding all black final boss
It's a broadsword, and that "edgy" comment only fits visually.

>emo protag
He's not emo. He's socially retarded, there's a difference.

>the theme of the game death
The theme of the game is accepting death and inevitable change.

>The Reaper it's cool but with the other stuff it becomes edgy
So an optional boss makes the whole game edgy?

>Shinjiro Aragaki
You mean the very Shoujo-like "thug" who loves cooking? Real edgy.

>the emo designs
This is just stupid.

>>388066838
fucker can't handle people calling p3 edgy

>>388058292
>Persona 5 just redoes the Persona 3 formula
Persona 5 is the Persona 4 team trying to do the Persona 3 formula. The character development isn't as good, and the game constantly shoves group activities in your face and everyone's together 24/7 whereas in P3 you're pretty much alone every day that isn't a full moon unless you specifically go out to spend time with a friend.

>>388067389
>implying that because persona 3 reminds you less about social links its a better game

also you get reminded about your school social links during lunch and you get called to see if you wanna hang out on sundays

>>388067297
I'm just sick of groundless arguments.
Waifu wars are bad enough without all these arguments about which game is better, most of which don't even have points anymore.

>>388067702
speaking of the waifu wars, the only girls p3 has are chihiro and "Mayu" everyone else blows

>>388066641
kill yourself

>>388067652
I wasn't implying that at all, I just said that it doesn't have the same tone. And I'm not talking about "being reminded of social links". I'm referring to how in P5 you are CONSTANTLY getting cutscenes where everyone meets up to talk about shit without anything really happening. Especially during the period between palaces, where you are basically forced to meet up with the group every day and rehash the story up to that point and briefly talk about what should be done next until something actually happens.

>>388067945
I wonder how many people have died trying to summon their persona

I mean at least one person, right

>>388059104
>>388059116
I only played them recently and I really enjoyed some cozy Tartarus grinding.

>>388068231
like what, they use an actual gun instead of an evoker or something, or like they're true self is someone who really wants to die so their persona chokes them out

I just remembered how much harder and less fun it is to raise mc stats in persona 3

>>388058292
Because nothing will be as good as P3
Just accept that it's the best in the series followed by 2

>>388068446
Oh and how everyone else awakens their persona is seen off screen (except fuuka) and hella boring

>>388068558
>A functioning human typed this

>>388066838
oh sorry i got nyx confused with thanatos because they are the same thanatos is the edgy thing with a katana
and yes Makoto Yuki is edgy quiet uncaring about life and death apathetic and with a emo hairstyle and color a gothic lolita the games love for blood Orpheus and just because the theme of the gane is death with all the other stuff it becomes edgy Erebus

>>388069103
>Implied sex.
>Katanas.
>Bondage.
>Blood.
>Demons.
>Evil clown.
>Final boss is literally Hitler.
>Other final boss is Nyarlathotep.
God, It's so edgy guys. Why do people like P2 again?

>>388059104
I played 3 after 4 and started 5 right after and it's my favorite, P4's dungeons are as shitty as Tarturus and doesn't have a good enough plot or characters to hold things together despite generally fun group events and 5's plot, length, and main party """dynamic""" of the Futaba and Makoto show featuring newest party member makes me want to die.

>>388068138
Honestly I'd rather have that than just doing social links eveyday until the full moon operation.

>>388068640
>Oh and how everyone else awakens their persona is seen off screen (except fuuka) and hella boring
What? They're all shown on screen. Akihiko and Junpei's are some of the best scenes in the game.

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>>388069694
Are you talking about the second form awakenings or the original? P3 doesn't have awakenings for base form personas but has some pretty sick ones for the evolutions.

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>>388069320
sex is edgy now
yeah a weapon or two you can equip is the same as a important thing in the story having a edgy design and a katana
i admit some of the persona designs look like bdsm sex slaves
blood is normal it's just that in persona 3 there is too much of it almost every place during the dark hour there is blood everywhere demons are normal and not edgy if that might as well say angels are edgy
yeah i guess it's kinda edgy
hitler making a deal with a evil god is edgy he loses the god also it was a game to Nyarlathotep and philemon they made a bet

People think Persona 3 is dark? LOL it's angsty emo bullshit compared to the first three games.

>>388070029
preach it brother

>>388061231
I really want to play p2 and p1 but they look so slow compared to the others, especially p2.

I have a save that is a week before you fight the final boss in P3. I never bothered to finish it. Should I go do it or just watch the ending on youtube? With these games the way to the end is more satisfying than beating a boss so I don't really care. The game was just too long and I think I got burned out.

>>388070029
p3 was babbys first SMT

>>388069652
Why? Even if you don't like doing social links I don't see how having all that padding is any better.
>Monday: I can't believe we were set up! -> go to bed
>Tuesday: Damn it! We were set up! -> go to bed
>Wednesday: Why doesn't anyone believe in us? We were set up! -> go to bed
>Thursday: We have to figure out who set us up! -> go to bed
>Friday: Who could have set us up? -> go to bed
>Saturday: Somebody really set us up... -> go to bed
>Sunday: Free time with text messages about how you got set up
>Monday: Fuck it here's a palace

>>388069867
Oh, right. For some reason I assumed you meant awakening to their ultimate personas. I don't really see the need for everyone to have an on screen awakening though. I think it's fine for the MCs to do it, and I didn't really mind it early on in P5 since the whole mask thing was pretty neat, but it gets kind of old.

>>388070173
Hmm I guess you're right

>>388070413
it doesn't help that the awakenings start to get progressively worse as the game goes on, with Haru and Goro not even having proper Awakenings.

>>388070090
They're not that slow if you buy the remakes, which are great. Only massively bad part is P1P having a very small and some say worse OST than the original.
Otherwise the pacing feels about the same, for different reasons.

P3 has the best intro in the modern SMT/Persona series though.

The song is simply great and the drop is perfect in every cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOG2gVH1Qfo&t

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>>388058292
I didn't mind the tone of 4, I liked Inaba. It's just that 4's gameplay was just the dullest of the three.

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>>388058292
Each Persona game had pros and cons, but they're all fun games with great soundtracks, dude.

>>388059334
>They're all amazing games though.
>When they're very basics and have pacing issue up the wazoo

Personna is the new Final Fantasy

>>388065878
He's still a bitch. When Nyx shows up and they have to decide what they're gonna do, he lashes at out at the MC like it's his fault.

>>388070996
Which game had the best ending theme though is the real question

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>personafags trying to look better then each other
Always hilarious.

>>388071990
Kimi no Kioku/Memories of You. I don't see how it's even remotely a contest.

>>388072093
>not hoshi to bokura to

absolute shit taste

>>388071205
I'm playing through P3/4/5 and I've almost finished 3. If 4 and 5 have worse gameplay, I don't think I'm going to make it. I can't imagine how they could make it worse than menu lottery for Persona abilities and Tartarus 76124780 levels of random hallways with 6 skins, enemies which evaporate in the 1st turn to MC alone and like 5 tracks worth of music which reset after every loading screen/battle to make extra-sure you hear those first 30s over and over and over again.

>>388070996
desu P4 opening is better

>>388072630
4 and 5 does not have worse gameplay. When it comes to gameplay it is always 5>4>3 and if you see anything else then consider them delusional

>>388072735
That's some stellar news if so

>>388072735
For story it has to be 3>5>4

>>388072487
That's one of the weakest ending themes though, it doesn't even beat any of the spin off ending themes besides Calystegia.
Sounds very standard, and if we're counting the story involved, very underwhelming.

>>388072630
>Playing through 3, 4 and 5
Damn, you're in for a ride.

The gameplay does get better in 4, can't speak for 5, but apparently it adds a lot more combat options.
I didn't think 3's combat was so bad when I learned to manipulate the system. When you get enough money and enough social links, just get a persona that gives high crit rates to weapons you can fuse, then save it to the compendium.
Congrats, floors 120-260 of tartarus are now easy as fuck.

>>388070413
Junpei just waltzing in with Akihiko being all "yeah he got the potential" was jarring as fuck though.

>>388070173
I dunno, it makes the group a little more engaged into the plot I guess, instead of all the reacting that SEES did for the majority of the game until Ikutsuki stabbed them in the back.

>>388070173
God I really hope they fix this shit in the enhanced version. P5 felt like it had half the free days vanilla P3 and P4 had.

Also fuck you sleep cat.

>>388073326
P5 did have more Social Links that took place at night to make up for the busy days though.

>>388069495
4's dungeons are nowhere near as bad as Tartarus.

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Anyone who likes one Persona game but doesn't like another one is trying too hard. If you like any of them, there's nothing about the others that's not to love too. 4 isn't shit. 5 isn't shit. 3 isn't shit. They're all for the most part equally fantastic games.

>>388073881
They're literally the same dungeons only more varied design wise, with the occasional thoughtless puzzle.

>>388066095
Eikichi is one of the most likeable characters in persona

Combat: 3(if you like tactics) > 5 > 4 > 3(if you don't)
Music: 5 > 3 >= 4
Atmosphere: 4 > 5 >= 3
Overall Characters & Dialogue: Fuck Moon 3 > 4 > 5
Visuals/Aesthetic/Presentation: 5 > 4 > 3
Story: 3 > = 4 > 5
Waifus: 3 > 4 > 5

>>388063742
I know your pain, started with 3 but it pains me to go back to it now from a gameplay and story perspective. Doesn't help that P1 did most of what people consider unique to P3 (such as a motley crew of assholes as the party) and executed it in better fashion.

>>388071990
Change Your Way > the rest

>>388058292
Why do newer Persona fans embrace mediocrity instead of reaching for something better?

>>388058292
>Too tired to go to Tartarus but wakes up at 6 am to go to school
It's not like they always study. Door-kun sometimes goes to school just to sleep and it's really effective [/spoiler]just like real life

Anyone who says TV World is better than Tartarus is focused too much on the visuals and ignores how shitty hallways are worse than Tartarus' random generation

>>388068446
???
You only have to worry about 3 stats and you have plenty of time to do it at night when you aren't in Tartarus, with both of those things giving you plenty of time to do stuff during the day

3 still has the best time budgeting of the lot by a wide margin and the only thing that makes it any challenging is juggling girls' jealousy if you do all links

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>>388077374
lmao, the random generation in Tartarus isn't better at all. Sure, there's some small stairs in some rooms, but that has pretty much literally no impact on the overall experience. The overall less annoying design, and the varied environments and music are 100x more impactful than a couple more interesting rooms in the RNG formula.

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>>388077902
Tartarus floors are arranged in a more compressed square shape with hallways and rooms wrapping around each other, while the TV World is just hallways with almost every dungeon having rooms only exist as dead ends rather than connecting to at the very least another hallway

>>388077374
TV World is better than Tartarus on the basis that both are irredeemable garbage and that TV World is thankfully much shorter.

>>388078150
I don't see how that's any better or worse, honestly. It's just different. They're both boring, uninspired, randomly generated levels. P4's just have interesting backdrops and soundtracks added in. I'm curious tho, why do you think Tartarus's maze is inherently better than P4's hallways? Because it's more interesting to traverse? That's a moot point, because it's still incredibly fucking boring.

>>388078340
Yeah I think it's more interesting to traverse since you spend a lot of time in both places, I hate the progression of just running down corridors looking for doors to open and see if the stairs are behind them. The way you interact with Shadows also changes, in P4 you have to wait for them to slowly turn in a circle, especially if you're lower level as the Shadow size changes depending on your relative level and the larger ones take up roughly the entire hallway and have a longer range of vision, while in 3 the Shadows don't staticly crawl in circles and you have more geography to work with when engaging them. I'm aware that this is a lot of little stuff but I've played a lot of mystery dungeon type games so every little aspect of floor layouts impacts the experience in some way for me.

>>388058292
persona has gotten better gameplay and graphics with each new entry to the series
however stuff like music, story, and characters feel more depending on personal preference
if you like 3's music over 5's, that doesn't make it better, that means you like hip hop rap over jazz which is a preference not a fact
if you like 3's story and characters better than, that is also a personal preference as for 3, 4, and 5 the characters and stories all have their low points but in the end still are pretty good for different reasons
when it comes to music, characters, and story, none of the games really do anything better than the other, they all just do stuff differently than the other two

>>388058292
P5 is nothing like P3. I've never seen that claimed.

P3 is still the best of 3-5, only hampered by lack of control over party members

>>388058292
P4 is the worst Persona game

>>388071386
>pacing issue
Not him but school life -> dungeon -> school life -> rinse repeat is among the god tier pacing schemes. Persona is basically immune to issues Final Fantasy had in 9 and 12.

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>>388078708
104th post best post

>>388078584
Agree to disagree I guess. It doesn't make any meaningful difference to me, and I'd much rather have the QOL changes and the different dungeon themes from P4. Also, you have to wait for the shadows to slowly turn around in P3 too, except its way more random and ends up being more tedious.

5 is the only Persona game I enjoyed playing.

>>388078784
>school life -> dungeon -> school life -> rinse repeat is among the god tier pacing schemes
Not when it's
>2 hours on autoplay until new dungeon is open
>3 hours to complete the dungeon+boss
>5 hours school life and social stuff
>repeat

I know you could pace yourself better and not do Palaces in one day, but the game basically punishes you with less time for social stuff.

>>388079282
What's wrong with that, exactly? It's all fun.

>>388066091
I agree, some parts of P5 felt like they ran out of things to write or just completely avoided plot because they couldn't write it good.

Like I thought the big twist of mementos was gonna be that the public legit would rather be fed bullshit as long as their lives style isn't messed with. I was eager to see how they could overcome that.

Instead they just said hey, god made them do it.

And then they didn't use Akechi enough, in my opinion. He barely had a character arc that he rightfully deserved. In my opinion at least.

>>388079886
>Like I thought the big twist of mementos was gonna be that the public legit would rather be fed bullshit as long as their lives style isn't messed with
Huh? That WAS the twist tho.
>Instead they just said hey, god made them do it.
Where did you get this idea from? The god Yaldabaoth was MADE from the public's distorted desires. It's their desire to be fed bullshit made manifest.

I liked P4 the best and it's one of my most favourite games. I couldn't get into the plot and characters of P3 at all. P5 started strong but fell flat fast.

>>388079556
It's formulaic and the whole game is paced around that 10 hour rhythm. You have this stop and go storytelling, where you can play hours without anything story related happening or any dungeon crawling. Then the games into overdrive, 2 hours of cutscenes at a time where the only thing you can do is save between days and after that you have this 3 hour dungeon that best done in a single sitting or you're losing valuable in-game time better reserved for Confidants or social stats. It's all too condensed. Imagine only being able to play two hours a day. That would mean there are times where you can go 4 days without seeing a dungeon. That's bad pacing.

>>388080070
Well maybe it was. Maybe I just didn't like where they went with it so it's kinda fuzzy in my head. I might have misinterpreted what they were saying

I guess there's something that doesn't feel quite right about the ending to me.

But the game was losing momentum after the 2nd boss. I just didnt feel quite as invested in what was going on compared to the entire beginning. Defeating Shido definitely wasn't satisfying enough for me.

>>388080598
>Well maybe it was
Not maybe, it's literally what it was
I've honestly never seen someone be confused about the ending before, even with the abundance of anti P5 shitposting.

>>388074025
when this post doesn't get any (You)s because people know hes correct

>>388080696
Give me a break man, I only just finished it about a week ago in during, finals. I've been staring at a computer screen nonstop once I finished. The ending is kinda blurry in my mind.

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Persona 1 is the only truly good Persona game. Persona 2 is heavily flawed and Persona 3-5 are cashgrabs.

>>388080998
I didn't even know 1fags existed

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>>388080070
>Yaldaboath was made from the public's distorted desires
Lel.

>>388081027
they don't

>>388081027
>P1fags
>s

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>>388081027
Good taste and /v/ don't often align.

>>388058292
Only contrarians unironically dislike 4. Strongest cast in the series bar none.

>>388081058
TRANSLATION WHEN
WHERE IS IT GIDEON

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>>388081227
>SMT Nine
>translation
You may be waiting a long time, anon.

>>388068640
>Oh and how everyone else awakens their persona is seen off screen

I don't really see this as an issue. The evoker forces the persona out, it's completely different from the awakenings necessary for natural persona use. All of SEES are deeply flawed and they don't hammer out their dents until they finally have a natural awakening.

I despised the way it was handled in 4 because it packaged their problems too neatly. Yeah, you need to do their social links for them to fully develop but even then it had less impact than awakenings tied to the story.

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>All this PXfags bickering about how best their game is compared to others
>P5fags just chillin' knowing it is the most well liked, popular, the coolest artstyle and UI and fast fluid gameplay

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>>388081408
>well liked
By neogaf and plebbit
>coolest art style and UI
If by cool you mean discordant and overdesigned then yes
>fast fluid gameplay
At the expense of any depth or substance

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>>388081408
I know right?
>tfw your favorite is the best in the franchise

Adachi did nothing wrong.

P4 essentially being a murder mystery is what put me off it.

You just get hours and hours of repetitive 'i wonder who could be the murderer?!' conversations

>>388081279
I know
AT least it's shit, right?

>>388058292
P3 is great, has problems, such as the third month. But in short I think it's great.
P4 is interesting in how they reused all the assets, but is annoying that they didn't improve on anything, but rather made a lot of the mechanics worse because they used the same system. leveling is grind intensive now because you can't break apart your party. rather than ironing out social links so you won't have a month where you aren't doing anything, I feel like I can't fucking finish any social links except the ones with my friends, which areguably are more important because it levels up their personas, and now their's no insentive to interact with other social links aside from getting a top tier persona and the world feels really shallow because of it, relegating a lot of story segments to specific story segments, rather than random npc's and changing television station and uuuuuuuuug. Also, there's less depth to battles because they nerfed charm and a few other status ailments. The battle system eventually boils down to one person heals, one person deals damage, one person does buffs/debuffs, and one person that shifts between light attack and item management.

I like P5, but my biggest issue is just how easy the whole thing is. getting intensive STR based personas is realy easy way early on in game. get a guy who deels 2-4 light physical and you are blessed. nothing can touch you for like 2 dungeons.Also I haven't finished it, so I can't get to into it, but it's nice that more advance tactics like buff and debuff hop in earlier into game play.

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>>388081913
Maybe, but it's probably one of the last true Atlus games before they became big business and it has a lot of interesting gameplay ideas and concepts that only really got explored in IMAGINE. I would be surprised now that real time action RPGs are the thing that Atlus doesn't bring it back to the drawing board and use ideas from it for new entries in the series, especially with the references in Persona 5.

>>388066095
To be fair Eikichi is literally the best thing about IS

>>388082216
It doesn't have press turn does it?
Fuck, those SMT1 songs sound delicious

>>388073424
That's actually worse since until you max out Temperance you can't go out at night after being in the Metaverse and even then most days taken over by the story don't let you go out at night regardless because you GOTTA have a good night's rest before meeting up with the team for a pointless five minute discussion

>>388058292
I liked them all but if I had to rate them:
P4 > P5 > P3
Makoto best waifu

>>388072630
>menu lottery for Persona abilities
kids these days
everything before SMT4 and P4G works like that

>>388078708
This guy speaks the truth. To me, the chart goes:
Music
3>5>4 (even got the Gekkoukan DLC to listen to Mass Destruction as the default battle theme)
Story
4>5>3 (I liked the idea of small town, big secrets from 4, but if it weren't for Golden, it would be 5>4>3)
Setting
5>3>4 (Real city locations with real names does wonders for me)
Playable Characters
5>4>3
Non-Playable characters
3>5>4
Velvet Room
3>5>4
Velvet Room Attendant
4>3>>>>>>>5

>>388082979
>Non-Playable characters
>3>5>4
>3's trash S Links over any other
Do you just not remember Moon, Justice, Star, Chariot, Strength, Fortune and Temperance being absolutely terrible?

>>388081106
Kek

>>388081227
>>388081279
I actually dumped the text once after seeing that one guy had made a couple of videos translating things but realized no one ever touch the game so I just threw everything out. It wouldn't be difficult from a technical aspect to translate the game.

>>388081517
No Persona game has depth or substance to its fucking combat or dungeon traversal

Okay but can I develop a crippling gambling addiction in any game other than 1?

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>>388083143
Except for Persona 1, pay attention my friend.

>>388083092
Moon is the only terrible one, but it's also the worst in P4 and P5, so there.
The rest, eh I dunno, I liked them, with Hermit at the top.
And I love how P5 adds the Mementos request to Confidants, but most of them get repetitive when you start completing them, i.e. Greedy person is ruining my confidant life, so I have to make them repent.
I was surprised when Makoto doesn't request a change of heart to the guy that was clearly involved in human trafficking in her social link.

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Instead of arguing over bullshit. Who's your favorite party member in any of the games?
Hard Mode: It's not your waifu.

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>>388082864
It's real time, it works like a lot of Real Time JRPGs where you assign tactics and the AI carries them out.

>>388083117
That's sad, although I guess interest is limited. If I had programming or linguistic knowledge Id work on it.

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>>388082979
>Velvet Room Attendant
>4>3>>>>>>>5
Excuse me, but you have that backwards.

>>388083117
Man, if i could help in anyway i would do it in a flash
I don't know a thing about translating

>>388083315
P3: Akihiko
P4: Kanji
P5: Makoto

>>388083312
Meant to quote >>388083079

>>388083315
Morgana, by far. I love his old man dialect, and he's pretty useful.

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>>388083315
The best boy

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>>388083315
Hard mode is too hard.

>>388083315
Queen is like my all time favorite party member, I like her bike and knuckles

>>388083414
Lavenza is literally for a couple of hours of gameplay, and she doesn't even interact with you outside of Velvet room that much. Same can be said about the twins, compared to Margaret or Elizabeth that have more interactions with the MC than the twins or Lavenza.

>>388058292
I like both p3 and p4 but p5 is a fucking disappointment

>>388083749
I really don't understand this. The fact that dungeons aren't just the same copypasted hallway proceduraly generated is massive improvement by itself

>>388061231
>All round Persona fans.
>>These Persona games are fun.
>Everything makes them happy.
Except p1-2

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>>388083315
In terms of what, gameplay-wise or Character
P1: Mark
P2: Havent played yet
P3: Yukari for being my healslut - Junpei for being best bro
P4: Yukiko for her godlike damage - Kanji for being second best bro
P5: Ryuji for his god hand - Makoto for best bro that I can fuck

>>388083856
I don't like the recycled plots and characters
And how much fewer Slinks you have compared to the other games
Also how you have less events

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>>388059104
>i assume anyone who says p3 is their favorite hasn't played it in a long time and forgot just how awful tartarus is and how annoying it is grinding for levels.

nah that's just you

I played 3 three times(First time was the original,second time was FES,third time was me attempting to finish all social links for Orpheus Kai) and I loved every bit of it. Easily one of my top JRPGs. When I moved on to 4 I was so fucking bored and to this day can never bring myself to hit the start button to begin a second play just because of how much of an uninteresting and unchallenging slog it was

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>tfw P4 is your favorite and it always gets the most shit on

>>388084296
That's what happens when your a FUCKING PLEB

>>388083315
>P3
Junpei, best developed character in the whole series desu
>P4
Yosuke because we're literally the same on every aspect imaginable
>P5
Yusuke because he's a nigga

>>388084296
>tfw we'll never get a P4/P5 detectives v theives cross over
I mean, the game just about writes itself.

>>388084398
>we're literally the same on every aspect imaginable
Sorry to hear that anon

>>388083079
I fucking loved all of them. Especially the moon. The No Zome master.

>>388084296
If it makes you feel better I thought it was better than Persona 2.

O MY RUBBER NEN are those games bad
>Shitty random encounter rate
>Tatsuya and Maya are basically Squall and Rinoa
>Tarot stock system makes getting new Persona a ram-your-head-into-the-wall level experience
>Endless "Go here" objectives but at the end of the day there's nothing fucking there

>>388058292

The issue is more 5 tries to do P3 stuff in a rushed an uninspired way.

>Final boss is empowered by apathy
>Final fight is against an all powerful deity you don't have a hope to beat
>Final boss cycles through pretentious voice lines about man's folly on each new form
>Final power up sequence ends with using a new persona skill

But in 5 all of the above is rushed, especially the last bit. You have satanael for like 3 seconds, whereas The Universe at least has a few more rounds to the scripted fight.

>>388084546
shit taste

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>>388084682
Hisoka!

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>>388083315
5: Yusuke
4: Chie I guess
3/Overall: Junpei
Tanaka is the best side character, too.

>>388084398
>Yosuke because we're literally the same on every aspect imaginable
Might want to do something about that, anon.

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>>388084510
>>388084939
It's too late now anons

>>388058292
but I love 5 its a whole lot better than 4 without question