Is it a one-off? Or is Sonic actually back?

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>>388024709
>Or is Sonic actually back?
he never left.

>>388024709

dunno. I want a disc based copy though. This game doesn't deserve to be lost to the digital ether at some point

>>388024856

>2005

I bet that's the same year your dad never left

>>388024709
I don't know, anon! I'll let you know on the TWENTY. -NINTH.- Of the month!

>>388024856

>all these years of reviewers trashing 3d sonic to be cool and hip
>conveniently ignore the decent handheld offerings like Advance/Battle/Rush

Sonic Heroes is probably still my most hated Sonic game though

>>388025235
The only major problem with Heroes was that they made you beat it 4 times and only made one of the teams have unique objectives. It was honestly pretty good, and most people realized it wasn't that bad when Shadow the Hedgehog came out.

>>388024923
Microsoft and Sony will abandon physical copies in the next generation of consoles. Nintendo will follow suit in the generation after that.

>>388024923
There's a PC version, so that doesn't matter.

>>388025235
It's been like 7 years since the last good handheld Sonic, and even that was worse than the Advance Trilogy.

>>388026262
There will be a PC version, you mean.

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>>388024709
STILL NOT OUT ON PC

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>>388026380

>>388026380
I can only imagine they did this to us because the console versions are a buggy mess, but you'd think they'd have been delayed, too, if that were the reason.

>>388024709
They went too far. They have to reel it back.

>>388026595
Probably compatibility issues with older hardware. I imagine that this game can run on nearly anything, but they were having some kind of issue. That's the only way I can rationalize it

>>388024856
When will the sonic rush is good meme die?

>>388025608
>problem with Heroes was that they made you beat it 4 times

That was never a problem, the level was always very different for each group

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Mania teamu go troo faru, nevar agen

>>388026595
How much you wanna bet the PC release has the exact same bugs as the consoles?

>>388024709
Colora and Generations exist, guy. He's been back since 2010.

Have you seen the footage for Sonic Forces yet OP?

>>388027362
What is wrong with the game?

>>388027428
"He came back for 2009 and 10."

He left us alone for the next 6 years.

>>388026595
the only way I can see this whole fiasco over is because once they have a set date on consoles to go up on their digital stores they can't change it while on places like steam the devs have a little more freedom with the dates

>i've got every gold medal and i'm on my 6th run
>PCfats are yet to beat green hill act 1

How can they even handle it?

>>388027428
>Colors was merely OK, not actually a particularly good game but it showed a step in the right direction by getting rid of unpolished extra playstyles (which they've completely gone back on, making this "step in the right direction" kind of pointless)
>Generations was kinda cool
>They killed it again immediately afterwards with Lost World and Boom
Even if you highly rate Colors and Gens (I personally don't), niggas still been dead for a while

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>>388027676
It's not easy friend

Lost World 3DS is fun

>>388024709
>Just a prequel tie-in for Forces

It's a one-off

>>388024856
sonic rush is one of the worst sonic games i've ever played and introduced everything wrong with modern sonic
take your gay ass jet set radio soundtrack and fuck off back to the infinite nothingness where it belongs

t. classic sonic fan who loves mania

Sonic's reputation has been in the shitter for so long that he would need a string of spectacular games in a row in order to regain any of his reputation for a significant amount of time.
So far Forces is looking to undo any good will brought forth by Mania.

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>>388027676
I'm not a child who needs instant gratification also im looking forward to playing as metal sonic once the mod is out.

>>388027769
>People said nothing would ever come of Sonic fan projects
>Taxman gets job making Sonic CD port
>People said Taxman doing the CD port was a one-off
>Sonic 1 and 2 iOS happened, WITH an extra stage in Hidden Palace
>Sega went through a major restructuring around 2013, Stealth and Taxman lost a lot of their contacts within Sega
>People were 100% sure, willing to bet money even, that they'd never work for Sega again
>Sonic Mania happens
>It's very very loosely tied in to Forces so people say it's a one-off and won't happen again
Nah

These guys will find a way. This ain't their first rodeo

>>388027679
Colors is a much better game than Generations, and Lost World was several good ideas ruined by no development time, very few levels, rushed level design, and way too many gimmicks. Seriously, if every zone was at least as good as Windy Hill Lost World would have been fine. Parkour is a much better system than boost, it just requires actual level design.

>>388028005
You talk just like one of the nerds i see on youtube. "gamer" culture was a mistake that needs to be aborted.

>>388024856
This game unironically killed Sonic's physics and the entire point of curling into a ball and replaced it with slow platforming and death pits at every turn
fuck it

>>388028194
I really like Desert Ruin, even act 2

>>388028283
This also the graphics were super fucking ugly it was the game that killed the little rep that sonic advance got.

>>388028216

>"gamer" culture was a mistake that needs to be aborted.

I don't know what common sense has to do with gamer culture, but I agree, start by aborting yourself.

>>388024709
Sonic Forces is out in several months and is not looking good. We'll see what happens after that, though.

>>388024709
This is more of a one off, after a sequel if SEGA wants to make more 2D games they should try to revive the advance series.

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>>388029707
its weird how divided the sonic fanbase is due to the different generations of fans.
advance series was trash bro. sonic peaked on the genesis.

>>388029927
Advance 1 is pretty much a lesser Mania.

>>388029927
Aren't you biased towards the Megadrive titles though?

>>388029927
Why can't we just stick with this? Sonic doesn't need to be a gangly Xtreme 90's teen anymore. The fandom created by the Adventure era is an embarrassment for everyone, and it's time to cut them off.

>>388030081
Because Sonic has established so much in those 20 years that it would be silly to discard it?

>>388030247
Blaze is the only new character who isn't terrible for one reason or another

>>388024709
>a one-off
Forces is next, so I'm afraid it's just a one-off so far.

>>388030312
She has little personality like the classic characters.

A good character would be Rouge.

>>388024709
I suspect this is a one off, but we will see three DLC packs each containing 3 zones for 5 to 7 dollars each.

>>388030247
Then redesign all the new characters actually worth keeping back into the classic style

>>388025608
Utterly false, the other problem with Heroes is that the controls and physics were shit, too slippery and janky. You couldn't use the homing attack or grin on rails without getting nervous that you'll fall into the bottomless pit, because of how imprecise the controls were.

SA2 had pretty decent controls so I don't know why Sega fucked it up for Heroes.

>>388030537
That would be pointless, the series should stop trying to change Sonic, it always screws up when they do it.

>>388030467
i kind of want this


or just a sequel

>>388030016
Not him but this isn't really a matter of bias.

What the Advance series had going for it were that they were the sole source of 2D Sonic while the grander projects on consoles largely abandoned that general gameplay and structure. The Advance series simply tossed a lot of the features that 3&K had evolved the series towards and are also unmistakenly lesser games in terms of level design.

A tribute/continuation of the Advance series is simply redundant with a game like Mania having just released.

>>388030537
>what is Sonic Boom

>>388030682
>Let the designs stay terrible instead of trying to fix them, because what they "fix" them into may end up worse
I mean, I can understand the thought process but I have to disagree.

Just get an actual character designer who knows what made the classic designs so universally appealing (maybe Hesse?) and get them to take the better modern characters and reapply them to the classic style. I don't see the problem with this.

>>388030802
The Advance series also introduced new additions, trick system, boost mode, extra attacks/movement options, and the partner system.

I am not a fan of boost mode, but I did love those other additions, so going back with an Advance route would allow these additions to coexist with what S3K/Mania brought to the table.

>>388030997
Because people have been following these characters for years and probably several people like these designs? In fact more Sonic fans probably relate to these designs than Classic.

>>388030997
>I can't just have Sonic play the way I want him to, everything about Sonic needs to only suit MY preferences!

>>388025608
The major problem with Heroes is that level design and gameplay are fucking boring. Heroes is utterly uninteresting as an actual game.

>>388030997
classic cuck

>>388029927

>advance series was trash bro. sonic peaked on the genesis.

This sentence is a fucking oxymoron. The Advance series literally used the same formula as the Genesis games but with more emphasis on unique character abilities. If you enjoy the Classic Sonic games you're retarded for saying the last modern Sonic games to use that formula are trash.

>>388030997
There is no fucking need, the modern design work fine and if you ask SEGA to try to build upon Classic Sonic you are essentially asking them to reinvent the wheel which they WILL fuck up.

>>388026380
Shhhhh, be calm my friend, August 15th was the beta release. the full release is the 29th

why am i having so much trouble with flying battery zone? was it always this shit

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>tfw Mania being a Forces prequel actually got me excited for it
What's the next step in his plan?

>>388031301
>>388031146
>>388031214
I understand that modern Sonic has its fans, but pretty much every credible character designer, every major media outlet and everybody who's opinion is worth a damn, seems to agree on the fact that the classic design philosophy has a wider appeal. There are entire essays and lengthy videos on the topic of why classic's design works so well and so far the only rebuttals I've seen as to why modern should stay (or why his design is any good at all) essentially boil down to "it's just NOSTALGIA for classic Sonic", which is a non-argument in my book.

I don't dislike the Adventures, I like the Advance's and I like the boost games too, but if we take game-based biases out of the question (i.e. don't just say you prefer modern design because you prefer the games he's in), can someone honestly explain to me the appeal of the modern design over the older one?

When can I expect my free copy of Sonic 1 for ordering the PC collectors edition?

>>388031829
Because modern Sonic is more marketable. You seem to forget that Sonic is made primarily for kids first, and the classic design would come off as quaint to them.

If modern Sonic's design works for you, then why change it? There is no point to suddenly reinvent Sonic now when they could just focus on gameplay consistency, which has been the BIGGEST problem with Sonic.

>>388032212
>the classic design would come off as quaint to them
Based on what?

>>388031829
Let's piss off the fandom by reinventing Sonic again!

>>388025098
pretty much this
the "muh beta testers!" retards are embarrassing and the "lol PCbros" people are annoying
I started playing other games to occupy my time. I was really excited for sonic mania and i played through 1, 2, 3&K and CD to prepare myself for it, but the game ended up being delayed.
I don't really feel hype for it anymore because everything about the game has already been revealed. I'll play it when it comes out, I guess.
I'm just glad that people seem to love the game and that it's fairly popular, hopefully we'll get a sequel.

>>388032307
You can look at the way Sonic fans act and the material they create to know that the characterization really sells it to them, and that also ties to SEGAs marketing

The OC community was formed around modern Sonic because of this.

>>388024856
https://youtu.be/neN6N5tKTTU

>>388032212
You really are just filled with bullshit, huh.

Modern Sonic worked for the 2000s. He was what was needed in that decade. But Classic Sonic's design is timeless. And now that the 2010s are rejecting edgy cool stuff in favor of cute its the perfect time for him to come back.

>>388032307
Sonic shouldn't be like Mickey Mouse, there is a reason Mickey fell out of popularity compared to Mario and Pikachu.

>>388032308
>Let's piss off the fandom
>When Sonic Mania, and Tyson Hesse's animations in particular, have been getting praise across the board from literally everybody in existence except for Adventure-only fags who are a minority in their own fanbase
Not that anon but I don't really see the logic at all.

The reason is Disney is too afraid to actually let Mickey be a character, because he represents their entire monolothic brand that owns 95% of entertainment produced in the world

>>388032169
It should already be as DLC on the sega emulator thing.

>>388032482
these people you're vouching for can fuck off. shit like this makes Sonic look cringeworthy, gross, and unappealing. not going to bat an eye at these weirdos rightfully getting shoved aside for mania and hopefully more games like it

>>388027640
Yeah, all consoles have a (sometimes lengthy) recertification process. If they decided to delay it on all platforms, there's no guarantee that they would all be recertified at the same time which would result in an even more staggered release, or possibly even a larger delay overall. Releasing the game in its current state on all consoles avoids that certification delay and they can release it on Steam whenever they want.

Sonic is as back as a franchise that can only do good games when they are romhacks of 25 year old games, so yea.

>>388031786
Making you play his game.

>>388034476
>romhack
lol

>>388030390
>She has little personality like the classic characters.
That, being distinct, a very simple design and having gameplay potential is what makes her an acceptable inclusion for the Classic mold if you had to pull any modern characters.

>Rouge
She has no more to her than Blaze does. Pretty much none of the Sonic cast has depth.

Really, the kinds of friends that would be shitty to pull into the old formula beyond mere cameos are Cream and Silver and Shadow and Gemerl. Redundant characters with detailed designs.

>>388033240
This is a series for kids. You need to remember that

>>388030312
What's wrong with Gamma

>>388028194
>Colors is a much better game than Generations
Not really, no.

>>388034715
But don't you want Sonic to remain stagnant?
Even back with Sonic X-Treme Sonic was getting the kind of elements you hate.

>>388027842
The game is shit but i wont let you talk like this about the soundtrack!

>>388030997
Have fun making Rouge, Neo Metal Sonic, Silver, and a whole fuckload of other things not look stupid.

Like for real, you can't give tits and ass to a character that's only 2 heads tall.

>>388032767
Night of the Werehog also got lots of praise.

>>388034776
You haven't really provided an explanation for this. How exactly is hesse Sonic less appealing to kids and noodle Sonic more appealing? You keep saying it but it doesn't necessarily make it more true

>>388032640
Not for kids, kids love edgy stuff.

>>388035146
link me to some rad tracks anon, maybe you can prove me wrong (i'm not joking)

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>>388035303
>implying pic related isn't edgy and cool

>>388035512
That's not what Mania Sonic looks like.

>>388032307
You can't emulate anime in the Classic style.

No seriously, the lankier bodies allow for easier self-insertion, more fanservice, more ways to interpret and portray the character, etc.

Classic is a better design, but Modern is WAY better for marketing purposes because it's more versatile. Classic will ALWAYS be an adorable little guys with attitude while the Modern look can be cute or edgy or sexy or whatever

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>>388035569
Hesse Sonic can just as easily pull of the badass look

>>388034956
>Assuming samefag
I just jumped on to say Blaze is probably the most Classic-Friendly modern friend due to get design and power set and Rouge isn't any more of a deep character.

>>388035745
But Modern Sonic has more characterization making a more distinguished design work more.

Even Mario has become somewhat skinnier and taller, why can't Sonic become skinnier and taller?

Sonic Mania 2 when?

>>388036140
Both were bad design decisions spurred by marketability, but Mario is still real fuckin short.

>>388036140
Personally I don't care about his height nor his arm or eye color. The pressing issue is that the key part of his character design - his spikes - have always looked like a floppy shitty mess, with pseudo-hair physics to boot, in his modern incarnation (except, arguably, his original SA1 Dreamcast model). Short sharp iconic and dangerous, that's what Sonic's spikes should be, anything else is a disservice.

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>>388024709
Forces will bring Sonic back

>>388036279
But it sold, so doesn't that make it a better design for SEGA?

>>388036468
back to 06 maybe

>>388036279
It clearly works, people didn't buy the shitty classic Sonic spin-off but people eat up the modern Sonic spin-offs.

I hope the next game is made by the same people but with all original levels

Freedom Planet was better

>>388035310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2dJTvn3hc4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqJSefipb9g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxwNzCp0ADw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENTZ6IJQCtw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RwIC5-nAdM

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Modern Sonic appeals to kids the same way Splatoon appeals to kids.

SEGA is absolutely going after that market. 90s tude never died.

>>388037059
you mean the things with a combined budget of $3 vs something with actual marketing? wow great job

>>388037529
I was referring to Sonic R.

>>388035146
>>388037359
word

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4KIxqTYGGI

>>388027168
>Team Rose
Too easy
>Team Dark
Too long
>Team Sonic
Just right
>Team Chaotix
Mixed bag

>>388034776
I was a kid when I first got into the series.

>>388037606
nigger that was on the fucking saturn
nobody bought that

>>388037869
Did you stick around past the classic era?

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>Less than two weeks after Mania's release and Sonic threads are already back to two different camps of autists shitting their pants in an irrelevant hypothetical argument about Sonic's character design
No wonder nobody takes this fanbase seriously

>>388026380
PC doesn't have blast processing, gotta give them time to optimize it.

Didn't SEGA announce that the sales and ratings of Sonic Mania will decide the future of the series?

>>388038065
It doesn't matter which design is better, SEGA should just not reinvent Sonic right now and stick with what they have built up for nearly 20 years.

>>388024709
>Or is Sonic actually back?

Sonic? BACK? His arms aren't blue!!! REEEEE

>>388038192
Why choose? To me it seems like the best course of action is to keep running the boost games (but take classic Sonic out of them after Forces), run the Mania games as a side-series - like how the Advances ran side-by-side with SA2B/SADX/Heroes - and keep the two as separate as possible. Seems like the win-win situation to me, I don't get what there is to argue about.

>>388038474
I am okay with that, but people are hoping Mania destroys Modern Sonic.

>Sonic has a small, fleshy, exposed stomach
>hedgehog penises are basically their bellybutton
I wish more people knew this, it would be the character design blunder of the 20th century

My favourite Sonic games are 2, Adventure 2, Generations and Mania.

Which are yours? :)

>>388035512
why are his arms coming from his head?

>>388024856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCGiEIncR7w

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>>388038613
2, 3K, CD, Advance, Mania are the Holy Five in my book

Runner-up spots go to Sonic 1, Sonic Adventure, Adventure 2, Colors and Sonic R. These games aren't nearly as polished gameplay-wise (in my opinion) but fuck me they've got charm out the ass and they've all got stellar music too.

My personal least favorite goes to Heroes, but I haven't properly played Shadow, 06, or many of the sketchier spin-offs so that one's up for debate

>>388031259
>level design
>boring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XETz0HA4LmE
nope

>>388028194
>Super Mario Colors was better than Sonic Generations

>>388039257
It is not, but even if it is it is great.

>>388039084
Different anon but
>Cherry-picking the one interesting zone in the game
And even then, it's concept is arguably more interesting than its execution when in the end it still basically just boils down to rooms full of Egg Pawns that need disposing of

>>388039084
That's just a corridor with enemies and simple minigames, hardly ay platforming.

>>388039518
-Casino Park/Bingo motherfucking Highway
-Rail Canyon
-Frog Forest
-Hang Castle
-Egg Fleet/Final Fortress

The first 2 stages are the only ones that are really uninteresting. Every level after has at least one act with something unique.

>>388039686
It's more substantial platforming than most of SA1 or 2. And don't pretend like level gimmicks were a new thing in Heroes.

>>388039084
If anything, seeing this so soon after playing Mania really highlights how completely misguided nearly everything about Heroes is.

And you may be confusing level themes with level design. A haunted castle is an awesome idea for a Sonic zone, but it's wasted on a game designed like how Heroes is.

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>there are people who like lanky faggot sonic over classic sonic

>>388039084
>Look out! Stand on that shadow, and that weight comes crashing down
Thanks for reminding me of one of the worst "features" of Heroes - instead of letting the level design EVER speak for itself and convey the gameplay to the player, the characters just ram it down your throat. I never did check, is there an option anywhere in the game to turn this off? It'd still be a mess of a game but it'd easily boost the game up by a .5 out of 10 in my book

>>388035745
>>388035512
Hesse Sonic is like Pikachu. Appealing to everyone because it can be cool and cute at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoE8xsBFyYg
Why the fuck hasn't anybody told me about this song yet?

>>388026296
Mania is on the Switch you know

>>388032534
This track is so fucking good, underappreciated

>>388040234
There are lots of people who like things you don't like, it is called opinions.

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>>388041004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrqXpYwS9nI

>>388041749
shitty opinions

>>388042046
That's why SEGA is making two branches so you don't need to deal with other Sonic fans.

>>388039257
>buh not muh sonic

I'll take the weird Mario/Crash game that's an 8/10 over the boost Sonic game that's more of a 7.5/10.

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>>388036468
Forces is basically tricking you into playing Modern Sonic four different times.

>slower, clunkier 2D Modern Sonic
>faster, shallow and repetitive """3D""" Modern Sonic
>OC Donut Steel Modern Sonic + Wisp shit
>OC Donut Steel Modern Sonic + """3D""" Modern Sonic

Pure, unabashedly, lazy game design, as usual. And then they have the audacity to get the same guy who wrote Sonic '06 to write the story for Forces, as well as produce for it. "Out of touch" doesn't even being to describe Sonic Team. It may sell way more than Mania, but boy is it going to get roasted critically speaking. The worst part is that Sonic Team will take all the wrong lessons from the criticism and make even more tone deaf decisions for future Modern Sonic titles. I love Mania and what it did for Sonic but wanting 3D Sonic to get a truly good game is suffering.

>>388024856
Bad game

Good soundtrack though. And I like Blaze.

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>>388029927
Now the Advance series is great and I wish Amy Rose continued being a playable character with her unique play style.

>>388036468
Holy shit those OCs look horrible

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>>388024709
>>388024709
Best Sonic character of ALL TIME!

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>>388035678
>You can't emulate anime in the Classic style
>2 episode OVA
>Sonic CD Opening
>Mania's Opening
Really made me think

>>388028116
>instant gratification
might want to learn what that phrase means before you use it

>>388029927
I like classic Sonic, adventure Sonic, and boost Sonic. The only Sonic game i didn't like to some degree that i played was 06.

>>388044521
The OVA looks more like Modern Sonic than Mania does.
Classic Sonic's design is more consistent than it was in the classic days.

>>388035270
Kids like "cool" looking stuff over dorky looking stuff

>>388044326
Why the fuck did they bother making Shadow when Metal Sonic already existed?

>>388031829
Modern Sonic looks more like a traditional cool character than Classic Sonic, who is now marketed to be cute.

>>388024856
Mania blows all DIMPS games out of the water.

>>388044973
The edge.

The trick to a revival is to love the fuck out of what you have and accept that there might not be another.

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What's wrong with Press Garden Act 1?

Am I ever going to get Sonic Adventure 3, with a proper chao garden and no other gimmicks

>>388045271
Nothing? It's a good zone, one of my favorites in the game. What do you mean?

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>>388044705
Outside of having longer legs Sonic in the OVA looks nothing like modern sonic.

>>388045471
no

>>388045471
It sounds like people would prefer they just release a standalone Chao Garden game more tahn anything

>>388045471
Sonic Boost Rush with connectivity with the Chao app on your smartdevice only $2.99 per Chao egg and $.99 per Chaos Drive to raise its stats

>>388045793
Give him green eyes and longer spines and suddenly he looks just like Dreamcast era Sonic.

>>388024709
It's more like Taxman knows how to make good Sonic games

Sonic team does not, depends on who develops the next game.

>>388037508
>Splatoon is actually fun
>Modern sonic is not

What appeal?

>>388046720
Good character design.

>>388044521
I said it can't emulate "anime," not that anime is unable to emulate the Classic artstyle.

The Classic style isn't capable of Naruto tier nonsense or sex appeal because it's a very specific kind of look based on abstractions. Modern Sonic is just humanoid bodies with oversized heads, hands and feet. It's a more nebulous art style that lends itself better to marketability because it's versatile.

>>388047039
Well it is able to be consistent, Classic Sonic never had a consistent design in the old days.
Outside of having black eyes, everything was up to the interpretation of the artist. In Japan he was even being drawn with those really long quills.

>>388046631
>>388046631
Taxman's a cuck

it's honestly like everyone has forgotten this game, there's lesser threads here and there. it's not popular on twitch.

are classicucks gonna go on suicide watch if the game didn't live up to sega's sales expectations XD

>>388047448
>XD
shitpost discarded

Advance 1 was probably the last game that felt like a Genesis game.

Advance 2 and on all had extremely large stages that pretty much consisted of speed boosting and loops everywhere while also being a mile above the ground. Every since Act in every Zone had a hundred pits, all of which took forever to fall to the bottom of.

No one would care about Rush if it didn't have top tier music and Blaze.

>>388031829
Can we not just have both?

>>388047448
The PC version hasn't come out yet

>>388047448
This. Daily generals until release, then forgotten not even a week later, as is customary with /v/.

>>388024709
Mania's a buggy piece of shit and Sonic was never good.

>>388031364
Just because they attempt to use the same formula does not guarantee that the level of quality is the same. The advance games are nowhere near the quality of the genesis games when it comes to things like physics and level design. It isn't even about modern Sonic or anything based on nostalgia or character design. If the Sonic Advance series were on par with Classic Sonic and Mania Sonic in terms of gameplay, they would be considered great games and there'd be a lot less bitching about them, but that is not the case.

>>388050923
I would say the physics is just fine, and the level design is better than Sonic 1 or CD.

>>388047448
>>388050137
>People talk less about a game after everybody has completed it, reviewed it and talked about it
Wow that's a revelation

>>388030538
This 100%. SA2 did so well at giving proper control over sonic without him handling like a tank like in the boost games or accelerating and sliding all over the place like in heroes. I still don't understand how or why they fucked it up so much.

>>388051154
Actual good games have lasting power, and aren't a one and done type deal, but you wouldn't know that.

>>388051456
Nobody's saying it's a one-and-done deal - Sonic's all about replayability after all - but it's still a short, single-player game. It'll get a boost again when it comes out on PC, then after a few weeks the discussion will teeter off and it will receive the same amount of talk that the other good Sonic games get - a decent amount here and there, punctuated with some quiet periods and a lot of stupid bullshit that Sonic has been plagued with since the beginning of time.

I'm sure Sega will fuck it up somehow. I wouldn't be surprised if Sonic Team gets Christian Whitehead fired when Forces flops hard. Sega has done shitty things before, so this would be a real possibility.

>>388052441
I consider it 99% likely that at some point in time, Sega Of Japan and Sonic Team will intentionally sabotage the Mania boys. SoJ and Sonic Team have a long-running history of fucking over filthy gaijin developers so I definitely buy it, but I'm just hoping Taxman and crew can pump out one more good Sonic game before they get the middle finger from Iizuka.

Modern Sonic games being incredibly bad is a shitty meme. Which is why they only bring up 06 and complain the night stages in Unleashed. It's people parroting what other people are parroting. They could bring up Sonic and the Black Knight to help their case but they never do.

I doubt they ever genuinely played Sonic outside of the genesis games.

If Modern Sonic is bad explain why Modern was the best part of Generations.

>>388046525
Can someone please do this? I'd like to see a comparison side by side

>>388053520
Because """"""""Classic"""""""" Sonic in Generations was just Modern's physics but without any of his good moves. Better than Sonic 4's poor approximation of classic Sonic gameplay but only barely.

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>>388053648
Classic Sonic always had an inconsistent design. In many games he was given a lanky look in promotional art.

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>Knuckles will never be playable in a game with this hat

>>388053995
He should've gotten the hat for Mirage Saloon Act 1

>>388053161
The 2D modern sonic games with the exception of Sonic 4 Episode I are generally pretty good. The only good 3D ones are SA2 and Generations, and even then both of those had shit tacked onto them. All of the other 3D games range from average to mediocre with the few actually shitty ones (06, Boom, Secret Rings).

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>>388053815
Modern Sonic looks incredibly similar if you draw him in the classic Sonic style.

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>>388053995
Did you just post Knuckles Wearing the OVA Hat(TM), MY original character?

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>>388027180
These memes will never stop making me laugh.

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>>388053995
lol 2 bad fagit

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>>388054631
End this shitty meme.

>>388054860
>Owning a hat
>commitment

What did they mean by this???

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>>388054737
feels good knowing someone saved something I made. makes me feel warm inside.

>>388053995
I unironically think Mania 2 should have mild customization options for the characters, like turning certain hats/accessories on and off, changing between the different types of run (swirly legs vs peel out legs) and so on

Appeal to every kind of autist in a big way. As long as the gameplay is still solid, you won't hear me complaining about more fanservice features

>>388030537
>advance series was trash bro. sonic peaked on the genesis.
>>388030390
>>388030312
>>388030081
Can we keep Shadow?

>>388024709
I heard a rumor saying the PC version will fix the transitions that didn't happen halfway through the game. How true could this be?

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The best levels are Studiopolis A1/A2, Chemical Plant A2, Mirage Saloon A1K, and Mirage Saloon A2.

I wish the game could have had more resources dedicated to all new content. Hydrocity is fucking torture.

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>>388056432
I'd be mad if they did. I've spent too much time laughing at pcbros.

>>388054836
I haven't read the comics, but I heard that Ken Penders basically fucked everything up with his lawsuits and is the main reason why the comics ended up being cancelled. Is this true?

>>388056440
>Hydrocity is shilled for months on /v/ by people who desperately wanted it in Mania
>It gets in but turns out to be one of the least touched-up revisit zones in the game and probably the only revisit zone that is unarguably WORSE than it's original incarnation
Fate can be cruel.

I really liked Hydrocity in 3, it's a shame that it didn't really shine in Mania

>>388038802
NIGGER WHAT THE FUCK

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any of the Rosyboys still have hope?

>>388026380
It was probably delayed since it was pretty fucking buggy on consoles. That, or denuvo.

>>388056440
>>388056801

I still love Mania's Hydrocity, but yeah I do like the original a lot so it was a bit disappointing. It's still a blast to play though, and I especially like the parts where you saw waterfalls falling on the floor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So7CtI_men0

And nothing has a chance at being a better Hydrocity song than the original Hydrocity.

>>388057052
Sequel

Pssst, can we get a mod with knuckles wearing the OVA hat? Penders said it would be just fine

>>388057465

This.

>>388056289
I-I actually like Shadow.

>>388041004
The best opening song to any game ever right here. Surely the ending theme is just a slowed down version of this or some lazy shi-

>>388041784
Yup, best OST award goes to CD And Mania

>>388038178
>PC doesn't have blast processing
what is overclock

>>388056801
>>388056440
Luckily, I never played 3k and I despised the water level in sonic 2 and greatly enjoyed hydrocity

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Act one a mix of every water level in sonic? And maybe act 2 remained mostly the same because it was just that good?

I wouldn't know but playing Mania only ever playing 2 previously left me pleasenlty surprised at how great all the levels were. Even the ones /v/ seems to agree as being shit like Titanic Monarch.

>>388056678
Why be mad? Seeing the proper transitions would be amazing. It's literally the only legitmate weak point of this game that the S3K fags lord over everyone (and the final boss stuff but i think that comes down to personal preferences so I won't argue to hard about it )

>>388024856
2 BLACK
2 STRONG

>>388024709
Mania Team went too far and Sega will never let them make another original Sonic game ever again.

>>388045271
Nothing

>>388024709
>Sega decide to cancel the PC version
I know this is not reasonable, but what would be the reaction?

>>388059402
A monthlong shitposting threads where PCfags count the days that go by since the announcement of the cancellations

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>tfw no Stardust Speedway US tracks in Mania

>>388059657
Good. The JP OST for CD is better in every way
/opinion

>>388043912
>And then they have the audacity to get the same guy who wrote Sonic '06 to write the story for Forces
Woah, woah, I did not know this, that's a dealbreaker.

>>388060023
I disagree and there's no reason they can't use both in some way

>>388041704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkff2nwRvBo&t=92s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5MH_Rm9QXM&t=86s