>720p >30fps C I N E M A T I C

>>388017765
More like 690p and 24fps.

how lonely are you? go out and do something useful

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>>388017765
>Not making a device that taps into home console and handheld market

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>>388017997
>making a device a performs like a 10yr old console and a 10yr old handheld

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PS4 and Xbone versions also run at 30fps.
720p is fine for portable mode which is the only reason you should want to buy a non PC version of Skyrim.

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>>388017889

>>388018115
>10 yr old handheld
But the PSP was 272p and the Vita was 544p

>>388017765
Same fps on all three consoles m8

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http://uk.ign.com/articles/2017/08/23/gamescom-2017-skyrim-is-pretty-rough-on-psvr

>The PSVR demo of Skyrim that I played at Gamescom isn't outright bad; it's just, in my opinion, the worst way to play.

>In order to walk around with Move controllers, you use left and right buttons to turn in jarring fractions, and another button to point and teleport

>In essence, the system slows everything down, and Skyrim isn't a game that's designed to be played slowly. When you can't even teleport all that far ahead, every familiar looking pathway feels a lot more tedious than it does in any other version of the game.

> Around 50% of the time my right hand, with my sword, was floating in the air several feet away from me. It popped back in place seemingly randomly, and I never really figured out if there was a 'right' way to hold my move controller to prevent this.

>Unfortunately, for the most part, it's just slow and tedious, and I don't think I'd want to play it in VR for much more than 15 minutes at a time.

So a cheap handheld runs the game at the same FPS as current gen consoles?

Cool.

>>388018826
>cheap handheld
>cheap

>>388018567
With 1/3 the details and 1/4 the view distance.

>>388017765
PURE


NINTENDO


KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>388019059
*on a handheld

>>388018748
>yet another game fucks up locomotion because babies can't fucking handle anything other than teleportation

Fuck Bethesda.

>>388019037
Yeah, you should learn what a real cheap handheld is! Like the Vita!

>>388018748
Why does every VR game have to have motion controls now? Why can't I just strap on the headset and play normally with a controller or keyboard?

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>why can't this $300 portable be as powerful as a $2000 huge autism box?
gee I wonder

>>388018343
Shhhh, console war faggots can't into fact checking.

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>>388017765
>all these anons jumping on Nintendo when it's more Bethesda's fault.
And they say /v/ is pro-Nintendo

>>388019360
>bought a Vita 3 years ago for €100
>Switch is currently €300

>>388019689
>Bought a Vita years later when Sony already dropped it
>Denies that it was expensive as fuck at launch
*tips*

>>388019778
>Denies that it was expensive as fuck at launch

Who are you quoting?

>>388019878
You because you're a fucking retarded Yuropoor

>>388018748
>A gimmick version of the game versus a dumbed down port that barely runs

>>388019925
>imagining things that aren't there and saying I said them
>I'm retarded

American education

>>388019518
Those were are all subjective opinions besides the 30fps on ps4&bone.

>boost graffickz
>drop framerate
what's the fucking point?
"your car now goes 250mph! but it has no doors or windows"
if you can't improve it without making compromises then just don't fucking mess with it in the first place

>>388020223
You don't even know what country I'm from you stupid bastard, hahaha. Keep backpedalling though, it's amusing.

>>388020103
The PC version of Skyrim is objectively superior to its console counterparts. The only thing any other version offers that PC doesn't is the Switches portability.

>>388018343
>>388019518
ps4/xbox version is special edition, this isn't

>>388017765
P O R T A B L E
i want to play skyrim in bed

>>388020285
>boost graffickz
they didn't even do that, this is the 2011 version of skyrim

>>388020285
you can notice graphic differences without comparing, meanwhile you don't notice framerate unless it's side by side or abruptly changed

>>388020327
Nobody is backpedaling. You are a fucking retard because you think the vita was a cheap handheld.

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>skyrim's graphics look like shit
>release it on weaker hardware
>most likely filled with bugs like the original vanilla game

>>388017765
Can't wait to play Skyrim comfy in bed

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>>388019512
more like why can't this $300 device meant for video games not run a 6 year old game as well as a budget GPU from 2011?

so? Skyrim could've come out on the fucking 3ds and I still would've bought it so that I can play while taking a shit

>>388020948
Please point me to the post where I said the Vita was a cheap handheld at launch, fatty. I'll wait. I don't even know where you're intending to go with this train of thought since your original post said the Switch is a 'cheap handheld', which it isn't. Guess we'll just have to chalk it up to

>American education

>>388019648
It's just that Sonybros can't hold their anger anymore. They even lost FF15.

How many FPS does real life run at?

>>388021008
>The Switch is weaker than the 360/PS3
(You)

>>388020009
You fucking faggot buying a console at launch is a different thing then buying it a few years after it came out. The price will be cheaper years later. When in the context of cheap you said the vita was because you got it for 100 but you're comparing it to a brand new fucking console price. What fucking country are you from where that makes sense? You are a jew

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>>388021113
and that's 1080p while the switch is 720p hahaha pathetic
even a 560 can run the special edition (which the switch version isn't) at 60+ fps on ultra

>>388021119
Could you imagine? Skyrim 3DS™ Edition. Shit would be like the DS or Wii ports of popular games.

>>388017765
Man, people here are are so negative.

Been watching lots of videos and it looks great IMO. I expected a straight port of the vanilla version that would run like absolute trash, like most Bethesda games, but this looks solid and seems to be the special edition.

Being able to have this on a handheld is fucking awesome IMO, assuming the final version runs as well as it look right now.

>>388021315
>560
oh wait, that's a fucking 550 HAHAHA even worse

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>>388021276
if only it were that easy

but this smallass thing logically can't be stronger

>>388019648
Didn't you know? /v/ fucking despises Nintendo more than any other company in the gaming industry. That much has been obvious by the amount of people wishing Nintendo would die or wishing that games don't come to the Switch, showing just how absolutely fucking petty they are.

>>388021364
we see you todd

>>388021287
>bringing up the Vita at all in the first place when the Switch doesn't even fucking compete with it

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>>388021276
The switch is indeed weaker than the PS3.

>One screen
>Shitty mobile phone tier touchscreen with no stylus support
>Can't use a dpad in handheld mode
>No hardshell case that can stay on in all 3 Switch "modes" without having to be removed constantly
>Paid online
>No internet
>No Netflix
>Marginally more powerful than the WiiU but really just a sidegrade to portability
This piece of shit is the worst handheld and worst console in existence.

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>>388021502
>but this smallass thing logically can't be stronger
wrong, the tegra x2 chip already kicks its ass and will probably be in android tablets next year
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_X2

>>388019329
>because babies can't fucking handle anything other than teleportation
>80% of all people can't handle walking in VR while they aren't moving IRL
>These people are "fucking babies"
VR shitters are really the worst, aren't they?

I really think people are underestimating the value of having games be portable.

I can't wait to have this and Rocket Leauge in the Switch and be able to play them anywhere I go.

It's also funny how people complain about graphics when the switch screen is literally a 720p screen. It's going to look great, like all other Switch games do in handheld mode.

>>388021018
>ES game without mouse and keyboard
>comfy

>>388021816
a $300 laptop can run those games better though

>>388021828
le funneh wojak XD I saw that on Reddit, so funneeee!!!

>>388021686

Isn't tegra X1 more powerful as well? Last I checked tablets have already surpassed 7th gen consoles.

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Skyrim will probably be the most power demanding game. The battery won't last 2 hours seeing how bloated the original game was.

>>388021816
I don't understand why people value portability so much in the first place. I'd much rather be in front of my huge 4K TV or my 144hz monitor playing games in the best way possible instead of on some Frankenshit handheld with 2 hour battery life playing stripped down/gimped versions of games I already own just because of the novelty of it being portable.

>>388021113
>>388021315

You do realize its in portable mode and therefor heavily underclocked right?

Oh what am I saying, of course you do.

>>388022018
>game from 2011
>power demanding at 720p 30fps on a $300 device meant for video games
that's just sad

>>388021895
Sure. But I don't want to bring a mouse and a computer with me unless I have work to do.

Switch is a lot easier. Not to mention it has the option to be played on a TV as well, using a regular controller or the joycons.

>>388019376
What you're describing is just gaming in stereoscopic 3D. You can do that with any 3D game including vanilla Skyrim with almost any headset (or other type of 3D screen) and applying driver settings and sometimes a hack if the game has problems with the HUD or special effects. VR implies motion controls and head tracking on top of that for the full immersive experience.

>>388022085
oh, so when you plug it in it will be 1080p 60fps?

>>388021686

Tegra X2 is a meme chip that wont see much use outside of cars. Xavier is the real deal and the one that will start popping up.

Switch 2 is going to use that eventually anyways.

>>388022083

Because I like playing to on break at work.

>>388019376
good question. the only plausible answer is there are lots of genuine retards in the industry

>>388019648
>Its Bethesda's fault for the Switch being an under powered console

Nintendo fags, everyone.

>>388022083
Of course that's optimal. But if you travel it's awesome to be able to play something on the plane. Not to mention to have some entertainment when you arrive jet lagged to your accommodation.

>>388022146
>play on TV
>it's 720p
>loses frames while docked like Zelda

>>388022083
If someone hogs the TV it's really nice to be able to just pick it up and go to bed with headphones.

Comfy deluxe

>>388022306
>Years and years of /v/ complaining about Bethesda and their terrible optimization
>b-but I want to shitpost about Nintendo!!! Bethesda can do no wrong!!!

>>388022215

No, console versions are hard locked to 30 fps. And it will be the same for the eventual Xbox One X version.

>>388021745
Then you give people the fucking option. It's not a difficult concept to grasp. It's not like we're working with a game like Doom VFR where the gameplay is designed around the teleportation locomotion with telefragging, or Onward where it's designed around trackpad locomotuon. It's a singleplayer game with pre-defined controls foe the past 7 years. There are literally VR mods for non-VR games that give you half a dozen options for how to move around that work perfectly fine. On top of that, Fallout VR is already confirmed to not have teleportation (or at least have it as an option, if I recall correctly), and that's from the SAME DEVELOPER. So I'll say it again: fuck Bethesda.

>>388022414
why would anyone buy this version to play it on a tv?

>>388022414
Compared to what, playing on a laptop screen at all times?

If so, yeah, I'd pick the Switch version. It doesn't seem to be dropping frames at all.

>>388021596
>One screen
Two screens is a shitty gimmick. Clam shells are a bad design choice that was abandoned in phones due to the problems it causes. The 2DS as an alternative looks like absolute shit.

>touchscreen
I wish they wouldn't have included a touchscreen so that we could get more time out of the battery. Yet another shitty gimmick...

>dpad
Legit complaint

>hardshell case
I didn't require a hardshell case on any handheld when I was a little kid. Why do kids these days need this shit? Just slap on a glass screen protector and call it a day. That is more than I had as a kid, and yet I've never caused any damage to my handhelds.

>Paid online
We've already been telling dumbasses that they shouldn't have paid for the 360's shitty online. Now we all have to pay the price. Honestly I'd rather pay $20 a year than dealing with either Steam or Windows Store. Good thing I probably won't need to play anything online on the Switch though.

>No internet
What the fuck is a cell phone for?

>No Netflix
What the fuck is a cell phone for? Why the fuck aren't you using Kodi instead?

>Marginally more powerful than the WiiU
Why don't you try comparing it to the 3DS? It is what I bought it to replace.

>>388022560
short attention span people that also want to play it portable

>>388022276
Okay, that's cool I guess. The gimped/stripped down aspect still stands. I'm not so desperate to play videogames for half an hour during a work break that I'd buy a $300 portable just to do it. I usually do other things like eat, talk to my coworkers or listen to music/watch movies or TV. The vidya can wait until I get home so it can be played as intended
>>388022427
>not owning your own TV

>>388022620
>implying anyone games on a laptop

Some games are just meant for home. And kbm

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>b b b but it ran at 30fps on ps4 and xbox
so since both of them are shit does that mean that it's ok if nintendo does it?
also, compare the switch to the ps4,xbox versions played on the tv and not the tablet and you'll see why ps4 and xbox are superior while still having the same framerate. that is, if the switch docked can even hold the 30fps.

>>388022674

It's not about desperation. It's just something fun to do for an hour at work. Not to sound like Chad Warden, bur I wipe my ass with $300 dollars. Helps to have disposable income.

>>388020916
> you don't notice framerate
Unless you actually start playing the game.

>>388022560
Dobson probably would

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fphtNeHKwGo&

>>388022674
>The gimped/stripped down aspect still stands.
Nothing is gimped or stripped down though.

>>388020916
>you don't notice framerate unless it's side by side or abruptly changed
HAHAHAHA

388022896
>p-pls give my strawman attention....

>>388023009
>720p/30FPS in 2017
>nothing is gimped or stripped down

>>388017765
So are people just buying this to keep Nintendo on life support in hopes something good comes out of this?

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>>388018343
the ps4 and xbox one versions have better visuals, and we still don't know how well it will perform in docked mode, looking at the fact that not even zelda can run above 30fps, and we are talking about bethesda here, anon.

>>388022674
>not owning your own Tv
Eh.. It is my TV. Or at least I bought it, I guess it's "our TV" ever since I got married.

Point still stands though. It's a comfy system.

Not to mention I play in bed sometimes even when the TV is free, just because it's comfy in Itself.

>>388023123
What the game or the console? The console is something interesting and a welcome upgrade from the shitty 3DS. The game doesn't really have anything to do with Nintendo. I could care less if the Switch doesn't get a single shitty multiplatform. Let M$ and Sony fight over them, with PC getting the table scraps.

>>388022821
But the quote was literally about playing Skyrim on a laptop instead of a Switch.

>>388023116

Oh so you just don't know words. Alright then.

>>388022896
>if nintendo does it?
Nintendo didn't make this.

>>388022896
>compare the switch to the ps4,xbox versions played on the tv
Yes, a 720p handhelds looks worse than a 1080p TV. You want a cookie for your brilliant discovery?

>>388023123
>to keep Nintendo on life support
I'm pretty sure Nintendo doesn't profit of game made by Bethesda anon..

>>388023580
You're an idiot if you think a PORTABLE port of a previous generation game doesn't have to make sacrifices in order to get it running optimally on specs as dogshit as the Switch's. The fact that it's running at fucking 720p is already indicative of that.

>>388022453
as someone who goes to a lot of UX conferences and has been working on UI/UX for the last 5 years, it is in general considered bad practice to offer an option to walk in VR. Teleportation is the widely accepted means of movement, try to sand some of your edges down hombre.

>>388020663
it is

>>388023967
source?

I for one am looking forward to playing Sykrim™ on the Nintendo Switch for the low price of 59.99$.

>>388017765
Is it going to get mods. This will probably be the best version of Skyrim regardless just because of the portability.

>>388023718
do you want a cookie for defending a handheld that is like 50 dollars cheaper than the ps4 but vastly more underpowered?
also, the joy cons are utter garbage, so let us add the price of a normal controller.
>>388023602
neither did sony or microsoft, it's about the console.

>they're actually charging $60 for this
hahahahaha

>>388023465
>>388023810
I'm referring to everything Nintendo Switch. Being an owner of an Nvidia Shield TV and Shield Portable I had great confidence that Nintendo was going the right path for their new portable/console unit by using a Tegra chip. The problem is the games suffer because they push beyond the limits of the hardware because they're trying to treat the Tegra chip like desktop/laptop hardware when in fact it was made for mobile/android devices to begin with. Go look up benchmarks for the Tegra X1 and you will see how when used properly it works as intended.

>>388023958

>Beth says its not gimped
>Previewers say its not gimped
?

>>388024426
>neither did sony or microsoft
Have anyone stated that they did?

>>388018115
First, you suck at english ::)
Secondly:
It seems you have some problem with logical operators.
Thirdly you don't like nintendo so what.

>>388024719
you sound butt blasted

>>388024426
>do you want a cookie for defending a handheld that is like 50 dollars cheaper than the ps4
It's a hybrid console that's cheaper than the PS4. You're bitching that an underclocked mode of said hybrid doesn't look as good as the PS4.

So yes, you are not the brightest student in class.

>>388024426
Not him, but do you know nothing about form factor? You can't fit the same power in a smaller form for the same price. On top of price, you have heat and power issues too. If you want to compare the price of the Switch to anything, it would have to be compared to other handhelds, tablets, and phones. The Switch is averagely priced for what it is.

>>388024701
how is your question related to the previous chain of posts?

>>388024887
>hybrid console
>cheaper by like 50 dollars

>>388024925
>handheld
it's closer to a fucking laptop than a ds or vita.

>>388024925
>You can't fit the same power in a smaller form for the same price.
nvidia shield has the same chip and is $200

>>388024556
>The problem is the games suffer because they push beyond the limits
I haven't had an issue with it so far. Skyrim is just like COD on Vita. It is out of place, and those type of games will probably be short lived. Then the Switch will turn into yet another Nintendo handheld where you can find a bunch of great games that are designed with the hardware in mind. Only now the hardware won't be as shitty as it usually is.

>>388024872
not an argument lmao stay mad you got btfo

>>388024925
>>388025198
PFFT HAHAHAHA btfo

>>388025169

>You're bitching that an underclocked mode of said hybrid doesn't look as good as the PS4.

>>388017765
if you honestly want skyrim just because it's portable then you are what's wrong with the gaming industry

>>388025464
it's a difference of 50$ for a rather big quality impact.

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>>388025169
>it's closer to a fucking laptop than a ds or vita.
You haven't seen a Switch have you? It's slightly bigger than a 3ds.

>>388025619

You're still bitching that an underclocked mode of said hybrid doesn't look as good as the PS4. Talking price point is just you moving the goal posts.

>>388022148
based nickies strikes again.

I never knew that. Why would anyone want to play with motion controllers then?

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>yes, buy a skyrim for swtich, goyim

>>388025169
>it's closer to a fucking laptop than a ds or vita
Vita screen size is 5 inches. Switch screen size is 6.2 inches. Average laptop screen size is about 15 inches. How bad at math are you?

>>388025198
Then that would be a better comparison than PS4 vs Switch. The problem with the Switch is it is built from the ground up, and puts extra money into shit like "muh special rumble". There is a reason for it to be more expensive than the Nvidia shield, even if that reason is kinda shitty and not what we want. Fuck complex rumble. Fuck touchscreen. Fuck Amiibo support. The price may be fairly reasonable, but it could have been a better system at an even cheaper price. Its not like I disagree with you about that, but it is just pure idiocy to compare it with something like a console when it isn't the same form factor.

>>388018748
Why would they not just make one of the controller buttons move you forward instead of teleporting? Seems a lot easier to have a button move you in the direction you're facing.

>>388025707
>You haven't seen a Switch have you? It's slightly bigger than a 3ds.
if you actually open that 3DS's lid it is even bigger than the switch at least vertically

somebody should make a custom joy-con grip that can also hold the switch and close it like a DS lid

damn maybe I'll do it

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>>388017765
You could just play Skyrim on PC and have all the graphics, framerate, and mods you want.

>>388025707
i actually haven't seen a 3ds, jesus christ...
the 3ds can barely pass as a handheld.

>>388023961
Confirmation bias doesn't change his point though

>>388025198
Not with portability.

>>388020682
Get a laptop

>>388023961
>it is in general considered bad practice to offer an option to walk in VR
then your work is a fucking joke

>>388026091

2/3 of those devices can fit into your pocket.

The Wii U gamepad can't.

>>388025205
The PS Vita was treated like a mobile device as should be which is the philosophy that the Switch needs to be developed on accordingly more so because of the hardware it is using. BO Declassified was an attempt to make it a mobile style game but because we're not used to seeing Call of Duty in that state it's a weird experience. Trying to have console experiences on a portable device hardly ever works unless it is presented as an on-the-go experience regardless of the docking function.

>>388025198
>nvidia shield has the same chip and is $200
The Shield isn't the same kind of device and doesn't have the same specs.

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>>388026091
are you retarded?

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>>388017765
Your mom is C I N E M A T I C because like a cinema large crowds of men gather each night just to enter her.

>>388026057
>framerate
The engine itself completely shits the bed with microstutter when loading scenario on the 32-bit version, ie the only one with SKSE. It plays smooth, sure, but only if you stand still and never go outcide a city/house/dungeon

>>388021572
No it isn't you fuctard. The WiiU was more powerful than any 7th gen console, even if not by much. The Switch is stronger than the WiiU. Do the math.

>>388022440
>you do realize this restriction is making it bad right?
>so if there was no restriction it would be good?
>no

wow the switch looks better and better ever minute

>>388023338
Why is black Mike Pence just Obama?

>>388021217
human eyes can't see past 30fps so even if real life is running at higher frame rate you can't precive it

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>>388021745
>VR is the future they said

>>388027002
No, the human eye can't see past 24 fps, that's why movies are all in 24 fps.

>>388021363
wii ports of call of duty games were decent. the catch is that they're call of duty games.

>>388018115
You realize this is the remake with enhanced graphics, giving it performance that rivals PS4 and XBone

>>388026642
>the gameboy was able to fit in your pocket
nah boy, maybe in the 90s and early 2000 when all pants were big, nowadays you need a bag for those things.

>>388026914

You bitching about a restriction put into the engine that no console can bypass regardless of performance.

>>388017765
>stable fps
>bethesda

>>388026859
>wii u
I find that hard to believe considering the gamepad cost more than the console itself.

>>388027351
What. That makes no sense. Skyrim can run in 60 fps. It's anything above that that gives it problems.

>>388026202
literally any major producer of VR content follows these standards, Im sure as someone who rarely leaves their bed much less walks the concept of this is confusing to you.

>>388027293
Not everybody wears skinny jeans

>>388027383
It's irrelevant what you believe, I'm dealing with facts here. Look it up.

>>388027203
It literally isn't.

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>>388027293
We have man bags now.

>>388027532
neither do i, but let me guess, you wear cargo pants?

>>388027559
Cite it. You're telling me something that cost about 100 bucks is more powerful than 7th gen? A proper comparison would be to look at games that were on all 3 consoles.

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>>388025707

>>388025208
Not an argument, either. Keep embarrassing yourself, mongoloid.

>>388027383
It cost $112 to buy a Wii U Gamepad. The whole console was $300. It was also being sold at a loss.

>>388027814
>mac

Opinion discarted

>>388022428
>Shit game can't even run on new shitty hardware
>n-nintendo is da bess! m-muh bethesda!
Sure, whatever retard.

>>388027958
>t that doesn't count

>>388026449
Hell naw of course not, Shield TV is better than the Switch and is also cheaper than the Switch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je7-Ot4zyf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo5ZJGl39ew

>>388022654

Hardshell cases are for those who want to ensure their expensive electronics are protected, just because you don't want it doesn't mean that it isn't a valid thing to criticize.

Paid online, no matter what form it takes, is always shitty. Nobody is defending PSN or xbox, and it being cheaper on Nintendo isn't a big plus.

Internet is an extremely basic feature that's been on literally every other console or handheld, including Nintendo's own. Not having it is such a stupid decision that I can't even fathom why you're defending it.

People are comparing to home consoles because it's being marketed as a home console. It doesn't matter what you bought before, people are comparing it to it's primary competitors.

>>388028001
You sure told him faggot.

>>388027698
As I said, it's irrelevent what you believe, and personally I don't care nearly enough about what you think to look it up for you.
However, the WiiU being more powerful than 7th gen is well known.

>>388027920
Gamepad was 153 and a replacement console was 100.

>>388024376
Literally people from OP's screenshot who played and commented on it.

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To everyone who hyped up this shit and made me waste $300...

Apologize.

>>388017765
So wait, is it literally just the PS3690 version? Top kek

>>388028181
Digital foundry says otherwise. Or are you going to say that the devs didn't tap into that power?

>>388021921
I've been on and off 4chsn since '07. I admittedly spent a few months on Reddit after hating it for years, until it went full astroturf propaganda mouthpiece. I never once saw wojack. Even in "meme" subreddits.

>>388027484

Not for consoles. How hard is that to understand? When the PS4 Pro released, they still didn't unlock the framerate. It will continue to be 30 fps on consoles. If you want higher, play on the PC.

>>388027958
Fun fact. Both the Switch and OSX hail from the same family of operating systems, as well as the PS3 and PS4 as well.

>>388027383
>gamepad cost more than the console itself
Gamepad cost 80 bucks to make and had nothing special in it but wiring and a chip for streaming.

>>388027814

Is that picture supposed to prove something? You can fit 4 Switches on the entire area for that laptop when its open, 2 when closed.

>>388028297

>it's other peoples fault I spent my money on something I wanted, but now regret

hahahahah what a fucking child

>>388028332
What devs? Did you just look up a random digital foundry wii u game vs ps3 comparison to prove me wrong or something?

>>388028204
Where do those prices come from? If you could get a Gamepad for $153 and the console for $100, why would you even buy the console for $300? As far as I can find, the GamePad could be bought separately for $112, and the console wasn't ever sold standalone.

>>388028532
The insides were actually pretty intricate.
So it cost them 80 bucks and they turn around and charge 150+ for those that need a replacement. How much did the console cost to make?

>>388028402
Because the PS4 Pro and Bethesda suck and most likely it couldn't do a smooth 60fps so the settled for a smoother 30fps. There is no reason why they couldn't lock the game to 60fps. The physics and mechanics aren't locked to 30 fps, the engine has no problems with 60 fps. They didn't completely rewrite all the code for the PC version you know.

>>388028715
No, I just remember the wii u being behind the 7th gen consoles. Devs was a generalization. Anyone making games that released on all 3.

>>388028852

No, they just locked the framerate. Like I keep saying.

>>388028720
Those prices came from Nintendo themselves. I called them up since someone gave me their wii u console but with no gamepad. The only way you could buy a gamepad is from online sites like ebay, used from someone or through Nintendo themselves. They weren't being sold in stores.

>>388028001
dude you lost stop responding

>>388028158
>Hardshell cases are for those who want to ensure their expensive electronics are protected
You mean hardshell cases are for those who are mentally handicapped and can't use their devices without slamming it into the ground on a constant basis? I mean fuck, people have done 1000 ft drop tests and STILL have a working Switch. If you are going to drop it at 4 ft 50 times then you have some issues. Instead of spending the money on a hard case, maybe you should spend that money on going to drug rehab, or surgery, or whatever the fuck that will help cure what ails you.

>paid online
Yes I agree it is shitty. It just isn't the biggest of cons when every console has the same exact con. Hell at this rate I would not even come close to being surprised if Steam started up their own paid online. Anyone who thinks that Steam has too much competition to pull this off is just delusional. There may be better choices than Steam, but none of them are half as successful.

>I can't even fathom why you're defending it
I'm not defending it so much as questioning why non-gaming apps are a necessity on a specialized gaming device. Cell phones are pretty much a guarantee at this point, so why do I need 10 devices to play netflix or browse the internet on?

>People are comparing to home consoles
So your defense here is that people are as idiotic as Nintendo themselves? It is the same form factor as a portable device. Would you compare a child to an adult because he goes around telling everyone he is all grown up?

>>388028895
>No, I just remember the wii u being behind the 7th gen consoles.
Developers kept saying the Wii U was between the PS360 and Xbox One/PS4. Why would you think that?

>>388021745
Those 80% won't get used to it if they continue to refuse to even try.
I would literally puke when i first got my vive but within a week i wouldn't feel a thing.

>>388029019
They did lock it to 30 fps. But not because of an engine restriction, because the engine has no such restrictions.

>>388023338
>the ps4 and xbox one versions have better visuals, and
All three are using the special edition.

>>388029484
nope

>>388029573
Hell of an argument, meanwhile people who've played and all the footage of the game on the Switch shows it uses the special edition.
And Skyrim Special Edition runs it at 30FPS on all consoles.

>>388029484
Source?

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>>388029675
Here is a comparison.

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>being a grafixfag

>>388029805
>720p
>in 2017
Im sorry but even on my shittop I manage to run resolutions above that

>>388026049

because it causes motion sickness

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>>388020103
>The only thing any other version offers that PC doesn't is the Switches portability.

I can play Skyrim at 60fps in my shitty Laptop which cost less than a Switch

>>388018748
There's no need to rely on reports about this. Skyrim VR has been playable for years and is, by an insane margin, the best way to play the game. Literally goes from boring, empty and pointless to every single thing you come across having a feeling of significance. The problems he's having come down to being stuck teleporting, which we already know won't be the only way you're allowed to move (game works great even with a gamepad), and generic bugs you expect to see pre-release.

>>388029914
So? Graphics should be one of the last things you judge a game by.

>>388030010
Sorry I meant to reply >>388020574

Can the PS4 or Xbox One do this?

>>388029756
Isn't that confirmed to not be actual Switch gameplay or something?

>>388029675
Not him, but it has the DLC, looks to be upgraded, but the one thing that separates it from the special edition is mod support. Could just be that they are trying to convince Nintendo to allow it since Nintendo is pretty conservative with this type of shit.

Not officially the "special edition" just yet though.

>>388030010
>Playing games on a laptop
(You)

>>388019329
Fallout 4 VR already has normal locomotion playable in demos and they've suggested even more options at launch. They aren't taking that out for Skyrim.

>>388030010
Pretty sure there is stuff like Nvidia Shield as well. Before Nvidia took that and slapped a Nintendo logo on it.

>>388029661
>Hell of an argument, meanwhile people who've played and all the footage of the game on the Switch shows it uses the special edition.
pfft hahaha
http://heavy.com/games/2017/08/skyrim-nintendo-switch-handheld-performance-fps-resolution-digital-foundry/
>It’s still unclear whether the Switch is receiving the vanilla port, the Special Edition or something in between the two.
which basically means it's not
anyways, they would obviously call it the special edition if it was.

>>388030280
No, it isn't. Literally all footage of Skyrim for the Switch is the special edition.

>>388029914
What is your laptop screen size? Pixel density is a big factor, which is why a 65" 4K TV won't look quite as good as a 28" 4K monitor.

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>>388030306
>Paying $60 for a shitty version of a 2011 game

>>388030423
I don't doubt it but I'm saying that they used like PS4 or PC footage or something because it was shown before Skyrim was officially even announced on the Switch.

Maybe I got it confused with the Switch reveal trailer.

>>388030423
>Literally all footage of Skyrim for the Switch is the special edition.
it's literally not

>>388030906
You have literally not provided an argument to show it isn't. Meanwhile, all the footage is of the special edition.

>>388031101
You have literally not provided an argument to show it is.

>>388031342
I have provided comparison screen shots and you can look at the trailer and see that the grass effects, water and lighting is exactly that of the special edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7980ZPK8Dg

>>388029203

Ad hominem doesn't discredit my argument, and in fact undermines all your other points. It makes you seem incredibly petty, or just biased towards Nintendo.

Just because the paid online is done by everyone doesn't mean we can't list it as a negative, especially when the previous console was free online.

It's a matter of it being an extremely basic feature that's being left out for no reason. It doesn't matter how much or how little it's used, just having it there as an option is something that should be done regardless. Can you think of a good reason it shouldn't have it other than "well, my phone does it"?

My argument it that Nintendo is marketing it as a home console. It's on Nintendo to properly tell us what it is, and if they say it's a home console primarily that's what we'll compare it to. To take your analogy, if a parent is telling us to judge their child based on adult standards, then yes we will judge them based on adult standards.

>>388017765
It's made by a western dev, so of course.

>>388030906
>it's literally not
People that have played it say it looks like it is based on the environments. People are just waiting to see it docked before they confirm it.

>>388031451
but what they show has nintendo products from their amiibos, which aren't in the special edition

>>388031342

You got BTFO sony nigger. Just give it up already.

>>388031506
>Just because the paid online is done by everyone doesn't mean we can't list it as a negative
Actually it doesn't. If its a standard, then its more a neutral fact than anything else. If companies started to move away from it, then it would become a negative.

Example is the Xbox controllers using AA batteries when the industry has moved away from that.

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>>388031451
Looks like original Skyrim at high settings

Just stop Todd, nobody is believing you

>>388031451
How is what they show the Special Edition? Wasn't aware the Special Edition had Amiibo support

>>388031752

You're retarded. Everybody does Microtransactions, but just because everybody does it doesn't make it "neutral." Paid online is always a negative, all consoles have that negative associated now.

>>388031880
It has nothing to do with the amiibo, look the lighting, water and grass.

>>388031886

Depends on the degree. Evolve took it too far and got panned for it. But season passes and shit don't even get a second mention. People just say "this game has a season pass" or "you can buy loot boxes". That's all, not good or bad.

>>388031985
Then it's not special edition? I don't understand how you are saying that it's the special edition when they are showing off Nintendo Exclusive things.

>>388032103

Season passes are not microtransaction, but they are still a shitty anti consumer practice. Microtransactions are little things for one or two dollars, mainly cosmetics sometimes not, that are designed to nickle and dime the consumer and make them spend far more money then they realize.

Also, people call out loot boxes as being negatives all the fucking time, where the fuck have you been? In any case, you see those things as neutral, or something that's just standard now. A standard can still be considered a negative, no matter how long it's been in place. Like right now it's standard practice to keep spent nuclear fuel on the plant site, instead of shipping it to a place where it can be properly disposed. Is that a "neutral" because it's standard or is it a negative?

>>388032195
What the fuck does the Nintendo items have to do with it?

Anon says:
>defending underpowered diggydiggy.
>Meanwhile same anon is buying underpowered phone, 800$ instead of obviously superior pc parts.
>Oh wait, you cant do that! It portability of the pho -switch.

Really makes you think