Final Fantasy XVI

>>388017212
Buffs and status ailments. Also a complete story. XVs best character work was in the goddamn anime.

I want it to be released in a reasonable time. I sort of wish they would put gameplay before graphics too but that's never gonna happen.

If it doesn't have turn-based combat I won't even look at it. I've basically dropped this series as a whole

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Agni. I want to see Agni. <3

Gameplay

>>388017212
a job system that you can choose... they should be substantially different from one another as well

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>>388017475
What's wrong with realtime combat?

>>388017212
A clear vision

>>388017478
This so goddamn much.
>tfw still no Agni rule 34

>>388017212
A complete game

>>388017212
a good fucking plot with pre-rendered cutscenes for the most important events and just some eye candy in general.
good gameplay, as in, fun, enough depth to be interesting, balanced enough to be using a variety of things.
difficult post game content with cool superbosses.
a great as usual OST
idc for a certain setting it just needs to feel like final fantasy again

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>>388017475
What makes Turn-Based better than Action? The latter is obviously more risky, but if it's pulled off well it will always be more rewarding than the former.
I'd rather a developer try and fail than stagnate and use outdated gameplay just so they can nostalgiabait and not have to do any real work. The last game with classic, turn-based combat I gave a pass to was Lost Odyssey since it had a decently original plotline that was engaging.

Bearing in mind it doesn't have to be either or, let them come up with a new system or make a mainline FF SRPG. Anything but this 4 Heroes/Bravely Default crap, I'd let Nomura become CEO of Square Enix and direct Dragon Quest before I'd touch that shit again. The epitome of zero creativity, and now that hack producer is working on Octagon Traverser- Another completely inspired work with nostalgic graphics sold on the merits of better men 20-30 years ago.
XV's combat was alright. Unpolished here and there, and the game was unbalanced, but there was more wrong with the game and production than the combat which was pretty fun once you got the hang of it

>>388017212
XV without the story. Just a group of people on a road trip doing whatever they want, instead of the typical save the world shit

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Use a pre-existing engine like Unreal Engine 4 or Unity 5, because too much of the energy and budget for the development of Final Fantasy XV was allocated towards developing the Luminous Engine and not enough for the actual game itself, and it shows.

There are already many engines that are well-maintained and Square Enix would save a lot of resources by going with a pre-existing engine like Unreal Engine 4 that looks stunning and already and works well for games like FF7R and KH3, so they can focus on the game itself.

>>388017596
You narrow minded basement dwelling autists make discussion almost impossible by insisting your subjective and constrained definition of ANYTHING is so absolute that you cant even be bothered to tell others what you mean.

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>>388017212
Basically Dragon Quest Heroes with a Final Fantasy coat of paint.
Where you get to create your own party and choose their races and jobs.

>>388017212
No open world

>>388017773
XV has the most retarded real time combat in the series

XII had the perfect system

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>>388018594
>No open world

But Final Fantasy XIII did that, and they got massively defecated on for it.

Square Enix really can't win either way, can they?

>>388018496
There has to be a conflict for the main characters or else there is no story.

>>388018739
XIII only got shat on for not having an open world because most of it was hallways.

>>388018867
the main characters also must be in their teens or the epicness of them saving the world wouldn't be as great

>>388017212
I want the ATB back. I play Final Fantasy because I want a turn based RPG, if i wanted an action RPG from squeenix, I'd play TWEWY or Kingdom Hearts.

>>388018876
X was the same way. It just came out before everything was expected to be open world.

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>>388018496
So basically a college buddies road trip simulator? That would be nice for a VR demo, but you can't get anyone interested in a full-blown RPG if that's what it's going to be about. It would be a full flop.

If you actually want a full-blown road trip experience like that, simply get some of your Discord friends together to organize one, determine a pickup location, decide whose car will be driving and go on an IRL road trip.

>>388018701
>*X-2
>*LR

>>388017212
i want it to stay true to what FF really is, make the older games as an example and improve from it, not make an entire different game. i saw in their current games, they take apart all of FF important organs, and still call that a final fantasy game.

what essential for a good ff
>epic story, not just bunch of guys saving the world. look how the intro of 6 and 7 made.
>town to town travel, fun side-quest backstory from NPC.
>JOBs, this is the appeal of FF games, when is the last time i see "steal" in final fantasy.
>airships
>fun mini games

in short, if they want to make a good ff game, go back to it roots, learn from the 4-7 era. also, turn based rpg is not dead yet.

>>388018739
When will you fucks learn that there's a middleground between huge empty open world and hallways.
There're smaller hub based games or smaller open games. Not like XV was really open to begin with but it was still big and empty as fuck.

>>388018867
Yeah it would be a little boring. But making XV's story so grandiose was a big mistake because the gameplay was suited more for a very simple story.
I would have gotten more invested in the story if Noct and his friends said fuck it and decided to go on a road trip instead, making money and fending for themselves through hunting and other quests.
Ardyn could've just been some dick terrorizing the locals, so the friends eventually deal with him. Also hunting and fighting monsters is a draw; it's MH's bread and butter.

>>388019293
Road trips are fun but hard to coordinate sometimes, especially when people work full-time. But yeah I mentioned above a rough and basic idea for the story.

>>388019293
>go on a road trip
>eventually your car breaks down
>town nearby
>you can't leave because magic silent hill reasons
>game begins
Could be fun
>your people are picked off one by one
>you all die game ends with a news report of the family asking for information on the whereabouts of the MCs
Could be good anon. Not ff worthy but a nice horror game.

16 is a huge number. They'll have to stop sometime; they can't keep going on with it forever. Perhaps it's time to give it the grand finale it deserves and start a new franchise?

...and if they do decide to end it at 16, please base it off Agni's Philosophy, I want to see that made into a full game.

>>388017212

Make 16 a full 3d remake of 6

>>388018739
>>388019193
XIII's path is just one way, you have no other choice but to keep going forward with the story. no side trips either while all other final fantasy have this, even if they are not open-world, its a downgrade.

X seem similar but its totally different, you have few road, this way goes to town, that way goes to another town, this way leads to a boss, wow, there's a hidden path for a side quest! i can chill a bit by playing blitzball.

>>388017478
Seconded. No Agni no buy, faggots.

>>388018421
I like both. And hell no, Dragon quest is best with turn based combat. Glad the japs would riot if they change it. They can always experiment more with turn based and change it up. Now there's just too many shitty action systems in games, so I prefer turn based systems now.

remake XI as a single player game

>>388017475
Turn based was a limitation of the technology. Get with the times Grandpa.

>>388020714
>so I prefer turn based systems now.
scum of the earth, you are.

>>388019820
I hope Konami didn't kill off the Silent Hill franchise.

>>388020796
the only difference between turn-based rpg and ARPG is turn-based used brain to win, while the other one is for retards who only know button mashing. simple

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>>388020820
I'll just keep enjoying both while you hate one of them. It's why I enjoy both YS and Legend of Heroes games, etc.

>>388021394
>My brain is superior because I take longer to make the same choice you made in a split second
>Turn based games aren't 90% mashing the same menu command
No really. Get with the times. You act like people don't still make turn based for luddites like yourself.

>>388021293
I'm not a fan of the series it was just the first that came to mind that locks you in a place.

Supernatural mumbo jumbo isn't necessary either. Maybe just a bunch of homicidal townies. And you can roam out and try to escape but they have people roaming, dogs to chase you etc.

I like games where the MCs lose. Doesn't need to be save the world tropes every time.

Turn based combat that involves positioning. Basically take HOM&M but add skills usable per character and ATB to act vs. turb-based.

>>388017212
A good game

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I would like to see FFXV but finished.

>>388017212
>the wizards, futuristic cities and AK-47 wielding sandniggers setting of the tech demo
>small-ish party, ideally five or six well developed characters
>LR combat, but with summons like in the video
>no focus on XV's /fa/ wank, let artists instead of a boardroom make the character designs

You're welcome, I just saved FF.

I don't mind action rpg games when done well but in FF I want a decent cast of characters and the ability to manually control them all in a normal way.

Stop. Stop it now, stop this. End it. Final Fantasy wasn't supposed to go on this long. Either kill it or just kill me. No more, please.

>>388017212
A story

>>388022498
Unless you can make SE millions of dollars then you better get some bleach ready.

>>388017212
XV-kun's death

Make bravely default but put it on consoles and call it FF as it should be

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>>388022498
Funny how Final Fantasy was supposed to be Square's last game ever, but then it turned into one of the biggest video game franchises of all time.

>>388022972
And even after 14 a game that almost killed the franchise they didn't stop
Truly shows how retarded they're and that they have no good ideas anymore

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>>388022846
He's now going all out on twitter and gamefags after being banned 4 times in one day here two days ago.
Hopefully he will just stay away, every thread is better without him, but then again he just made a shitpost bait thread earlier today

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>>388022972
>Final Fantasy VII Snowboarding

Is this for real?

>>388021568
chess, cards games, shogi are all strategy and taking turns are the way it was played. its a game using brain.

only retards played these without considering turn at all.

it was not a limitation of technology, its just a brain game, using resource available to you to settle few diffferent situation. if you want action go play GTA or CoD.

>>388023203
>but then again he just made a shitpost bait thread earlier today
The KH one?

>>388023334
Don't equate final fantasy to chess. You sound ridiculous. Strategy can happen at fast speeds. See speed chess.

>>388023334
>comparing a turn-based RPG to a strategy-heavy board game like chess
You were doing so well too

>>388017212
a finished game

>>388023415
Yeah

I want to see a letter of declaration of bankruptcy and insolvency from SE. It's long overdue and well deserved. They haven't made a decent game since the merger.

>>388020796
Are you a retard or an underage?

>>388024140
But what about Kingdom Hearts 3?!

>>388023774
Yes.

>>388023473
it not about speed. do you really understand? ffvi is fast do you ever played it? what i mean is there not much window for strategy and braingame if they gave real time combat rather than turn based. do you even know whats the point they make a turn-based game, for you think.

while ff appeal is in examplethis scenario:

>monster have high hp and defense. what can i do to kill it without taking much damage. pulls up prrotect or use poison petrification and stuff.
>ffx for example, enemy have high evasion, swap in wakka cause he have high accuracy to hit anything.

if it turned to action rpg, you'd just beat the hell out of it until your finger hurts.

>>388017212
I would like some mix between devil may cry 1 weapon demon transformation with summons. I would like that each character has his own thing (like in ff9) and when you mix the summon with each one of them they get special habilities. For example being able to go further than ++ when mixed with mage or elemntal hits with melee, idk.

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>>388017212
1. All capital cities reworked so that theyr not in 2 parts.
2. More character customization. (Beards section for males, makeup for females, more faces, features etc...)
3. And the most important FIX THE FUCKING MAP ITS A COMPLETE FUCKING MESS.

>>388024173
underage for sure, ffxv his best final fantasy

inb4 plebs saying people like old ff because of nostalgia. im saying its false.

i played ffvi after finishing ffxv and ff13, still i like ffvi waaay better than the latter and became my number 1 favourite after playing bunch of the series.

>>388017212
I don't care what they will do in FF 16 as long as they don't DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DO NOT make another open world meme game.

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FF7R is FF16.

>>388017212
A ps4 version. I don't want to buy another console ever.

>>388017212
a finished game

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>>388025480
>I don't want to buy another console ever.

Then get a PC that you can gradually upgrade over time as you please. Square Enix is pretty much actively bringing their games to the PC anyway, and since Windows is the most backwards-compatible gaming platform ever, you won't have to wait for re-releases to play old Final Fantasy games like console players do every time the next generation is released.

>>388017212
Anything that stays far far away from uninspired trash like FFXV.
>>388022846
And also this. It'd be nice to actually read a FF thread for once without it being ruined by one creepy faggot 24/7.
Based mods have been correcting that problem lately though.

>>388025927
Yeah but you also usually have to wait 1 1/2+ years for a release

>>388025927
>He is still dreaming
PC is always going to be the last thing they think of and ports always come to pc years later. Phones are literally getting a port of ff 15 before pc.

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>>388025927
The Final Fantasy XIII trilogy is still not available on the PS4. If you're not a PC gamer, you'll have to buy a last-gen console to play it. Sad.

>>388025362
dumb weeb

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>>388026195
>>388026286
It will come out shortly after Episode Ignis has landed. PC gamers will be getting the complete package when it drops.

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>>388026505
>complete package
You poor child. It was early access on console and it will only be slightly less early access on PC and non of that will fix the story or other problems likethe whole way the world is built and shit.
And i highly doubt we'll get mods beyond the usual nude stuff and model swap because 99% of games don't.
At least know what you're talking about, also this wasn't even supposed to be the last DLC so be ready for another season pass

>>388026467
>says anon in a FF thread

>>388026505
You are a fucking insane person episode Ignis is not even the end of the dlc and that shit is coming out ridiculously late. I can only assume you are being sarcastic.

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>>388026743
Can we just forget FFXV ever happened? Please.

>>388017212

An heroic fantasy world, not a sausage fest "based on reality"

>>388026743
>Rest of the story is added slowly through dlc over next 2 years
>Not even freeupdates
That's fucking it that's the last fucking straw when im done with my interview tomorrow im selling ff15 and getting sonic mania with the money. I'm fucking done.

The thing is you KNOW it's not going to come out once a month but more like one dlc every 2 or 3 months. WHY THE FUCK should i have to pay for dlc for the next 2 years to finish this god damn game?!

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>>388026993
Not for 2 more years. Course it's easier when you're enjoying yourself with a better FF game.

>>388027030
It could have worked if they kept the theme to JUST insomnia instead of making the whole world like that. You should have gained party members that clashed with the teams culture. You should have gotten a wider arrange of fantasy clothes and weapons that make no sense in real life. We should have gotten stereo typical arch types like knights and ninjas as classes for the guys. It really could have worked if it just toned down the realism.

>>388017212
-RPG combat. XV is a disaster. XIII, for all its problems, actually has a decent combat system. Something like XIII (using up portions of ATB, the breaking system, etc) but with classic jobs might be cool. Whatever, it doesn't really matter as long as they actually commit. FFXV is so shit because they half-dicked the action combat in order to not scare off old RPG players. If XV played like Nier:Automata or DMC4 a lot of stuff would have been forgiven.

-Items and character building that actually feel like they matter. Another XV problem. You could go do hunts but none of them felt cool because every fucking item in the game was the same shit but with higher stats.

-A COMPLETE STORY. I'm not watching your low FPS anime or the CG movie with the fucked up faces.

-Make Cidney (a hot female counterpart to Cid that dresses like a whoore) a series regular

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>>388022846
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/75696625?jumpto=71#71
Will never happen, he is omnipresent

>>388027636
>18 minutes ago

Turn based combat

>>388023086
It would have been pretty retarded of them to end their biggest franchise because of a couple bad entries

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>>388017212
imagine if square enix looked at what sega was doing and split the series into final fantasy the arpg and final fantasy the jrpg. something like where if they appropriated the bravely default series and rebranded it as final fantasy classic or something

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>>388028341

>>388023086
probably because they knew it wasnt because people disliked the genre, but because the people who were working on it proved to be complete shit at their jobs so it just meant they'd need to replace them.

At least it WAS an mmo which can be updated from the ground up, or they'd be fucked, like FFXV

oh wait

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I want another Lightning Returns styled game

It takes you through the tutorial, sets a main goal and opens the world to you. Gives a big reason to do side quests, eat foods, explore, kill rare things etc. I'll be really happy with a ps4 release

If not a LR style game, I want another turn based story game with X-2's combat

>>388017212
>Directed by: Hiroyuki ito.

>>388028693
Play FF15.

>>388029074
XV gives me reasons to do side quests?

>>388029135
Yes.

>>388017212
A return to the high-fantasy kind of Final Fantasy, like pre-FFVII games.

They haven't done that in a while unless you count XI and XIV, which apparently are good, so I'd like to see try their hand at that sort of concept again.

>>388020796
Even though some of the first and earliest jrpgs like Xanadu, Ys, Star Ocean, Tales, Terranigma, Secret of Mana were real time? Turn based is a choice.

>>388029369
Mobius Final Fantasy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1sl-YoMi3Q

http://store.steampowered.com/app/536930/MOBIUS_FINAL_FANTASY/

>>388029074
I have it dawg. I'm around maybe chapter 7 or some thing. I just followed pink hair dude in a car, I'll slightly rant now

First off the character designs of the main 4 cast, it could be better. The combat right now is what I hate the most, the teammates almost always get their ass handed to, and theres very little strategy to attacking. The only magic I've seen is what you make from elements, yeah thats fun using but its limited and could be better. Also the car parts are comfy but very boring, I want to get onto exciting fodder battles rather then 10 gorillian soldiers falling from the sky to gang bang the group. Their banter also is not so good together, i feel they could show that they have a deeper connection.
Also why the fuck does prompto ask if I want pictures of their friends. Anyway LR was nice with the way its gameplay worked and had no forced party members

>>388028693
This, but make it not utter trash.

I enjoyed the game, but there's no denying its a garbage fire.

>>388029332
Like?
Except for the post game one where you get the OP weapon whcih now after the patches isn't even OP anymore

>>388029630
The one where you find out Prompto has an unhealthy voyeurism fetish with his Camera.

>>388029783
But does it give me reason beforehand to do that one

>>388029880
Yea, friendship.

>>388017212

I want them to go back to their roots like ff7 and ff9.

I want to get taken on a ride accross the world that has places with different themes.

I want a decent combat system, maybe get platinum to work on it, with magic and summons. Where the summons can be used everywhere unlike xv where you could only use it at certain places.

I want 0 filler sidequests. I want them to be like ff7 with yuffie and vincent, where they actually mean something.

I want good characters where you get to know their past, their present and what happen in the past that defines their action today.

Like ff7 with barret, redxii and yuffie.

No rushed story pls

>>388029968
fug
Too much for me

>>388017476
Shiva pls

>>388029612

I have to disagree, it was a very enjoyable experience with a very unique setting and without a doubt the best of the trilogy.
Sure it had its flaws but it certainly wasn't trash

>>388021293
Konami killed virtually every franchise.

Cancel the main series, make more World of FF games.

>>388029574
Yes, but for home consoles so its something with the size and content of FFXII or XV.

Also I kind of like the new action rpg direction the series is taking with XV and VII Remake. That and I think that Sword and Sorcery lends itself very well to action games.

The moogles in that game suck though, they should just bring back the amazing XII moogles.

>>388017212
>No sci-fi or modern day bullshit just a high fantasy setting

>>388033617
>ff1 warmech dot jpeg

>>388033601
Ivalice is the greatest world Square ever created.

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>>388018701
>game literally plays itself
>"perfect system"

>>388017212
Nothing. FFXV was the last Final Fantasy. The franchise is literally dead since FFXV flopped.

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>>388034963
>The franchise is literally dead since FFXV flopped.

Ah, ah, aaaaahh! You got it wrong! It's actually the FASTEST selling game in the entire history of the series!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/12/02/final-fanatsy-xv-is-now-the-fastest-selling-game-in-the-history-of-the-series/

>>388035402
I really hope Square learns from this though. Sure 6 million sales sounds good, but 5 million to fucking break even doesn't. Just don't spent too much on marketing, a new engine and have a clear vision next time.
Also it's not really that hard to sell a lot when it's the only one that had a worldwide day 1 release and marketing that probably even topped FF7

Overall they should just focus more on one thing and trying to reach that. XV just feels like they had 50 goals and reached maybe 3 of them

>>388017212
A proper story and a finished fucking game. What a waste of XV's ending, party and villain to put them in such a shitty game.

>>388031249
M8, it was trash.

From the NPCs, to the rehash completely retarded story, unlikable characters (they even ruined Noel, one of the few salvageable things about XIII-2), the samey boring environments within dungeons, the terrible dialogue, the disastrous NPC span mechanics, the shitty colosseum without even any available, proper tournaments for post-game LR is

though the world itself was fine it had zero huge, lazy empty spaces whereas there could have been way more exploration and hidden stuff. LR was the perfect game for that and they did none of it other than collecting accessories for upgrades. The world also had about zero consistency with both the world of both previous games, how did we go from Academia to Luxerion for fuck's sake? The game is also pretty ugly compared to FFXIII 1 & 2.

Honestly the best title was the original FFXIII because it at least had a degree of original ideas and themes, only they were terribly executed and playing it was a borefest. Thankfully for it, it was also the least offensive in its retardation.

LR was very bad, but at least it was fun. Still, if XIII's battles played like LR it would be a way more popular game than it is now and everyone would consider it the best hands down.

LR still marks the direction Squeenix should try to follow from now onwards. In fact, I'm pretty sure SQ churned it out sp it served as testing grounds for XV.

>>388036416
PD: ever taken a closer look at the models used for cats in LR?

Just try it.

>>388033812
I would argue Spira was also pretty amazing conveptually. Shame they made it a hallway.

Some day they'll remake X (just because it was their second best seller of all time and still sells a shitload today) and make it a much more detailed open world, and that day Spira will get the love it deserves.

Other than that IV's world is also pretty amazing, yet another game I'd like to see remade.

III had as good of a world as IV or even better but that one's not so good in itself that would merit a PS4/PS5 remake.

Can you fucking stop talking about XV, we all know it sucked.

>>388017212
I wouldn't mind them expanding on Agni Philosophy. Seems quite nice

They should do FF12 battle system sort of thing only it has the leveling mechanics of FF3 desu

>>388023252

hownew.ru

>>388017212
a coherent narrative

>>388017212
No Nomura, Toriyama and Tabta's name on it.

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>>388037657
He's not coming back to SQEX, anon.

>>388017212
>Use Unreal Engine 4 to save time and money while still making your game look great.
>Go back to the Active Time Battle Turned Based System, Persona 5 was proof that Turned-Based RPGs are not dead, they just need to be toned up.
>Bring in a big and compelling cast and epic story, none of this Cloud wannabee leeching shit like in XIII.
>Bring back jobs, they don't have to give them to faceless masses or change them, just add them in the lore like IX did.
>One of the best bits of XV was making Ardyn the main villain instead of this faceless old forgettable emperor tyrant or god like the XIII Trilogy did. Make more villains similar to him.
>For the love of god, keep the story within the game and don't spread the backstories and lore in separate pieces of media.

>>388017212

A return to the pre-FFX format, AKA a return to FF as more than just a marketing label.

We won't get that, which is why I basically don't care and might not even play it.

>>388017212
FFXV but finished

The only jap games allowed to get away with turnbased in modern times is SMT, the old ff games are literally not fun at all

>>388037823
>Persona 5 was proof that Turned-Based RPGs are not dead, they just need to be toned up

You mean casual shit? P5 was literally as braindead as XV. I'll wait for the new mainline smt instead before pretending P5 is some hallmark of the genre

>>388017212
The more realistic games get, the less I want to play them

>>388017476
give me the succ

>>388038554
Oh come on anon, P5's far from complex, but don't compare it XV.
That's just mean

>>388017476
lets go

>>388017212
>What do you want to see in Final Fantasy XVI?

I want to see someone other than Square develop it. (Not referring to outsourcing development to a shitty start-up company in a third-world country, which I believe happened with some of the mobile spinoffs)

The merger effectively destroyed this IP. Only way another good FF game is going to be churned out is if the series is sold to a more competent developer.

>>388037823
>Go back to the Active Time Battle Turned Based System, Persona 5 was proof that Turned-Based RPGs are not dead, they just need to be toned up.
Final Fantasy's encarnation of them is very much dead though, Atlus was, is and always will be way ahead of Square in gameplay design. The stagger system and LR is a good starting point, but it still needs an overhaul to make it more strategic.

>Bring back jobs, they don't have to give them to faceless masses or change them, just add them in the lore like IX did.
I actually prefer Garbs. They should essentially work like jobs but the ability to switch them mid-battle really added depth to the gameplay.

>>388017212
Proper turn-based combat a la FFX. Let Kingdom Hearts be Kingdom Hearts and let Final Fantasy be Final Fantasy. This action meme has got to stop.

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>>388039076
Mistwalker?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXa0BbIa9jo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6jfz9rhZpY

A return to steampunk setting.

>>388038554
He never said a thing about difficulty, are implying that XV isn't casual as fuck? It fits right into the rest of the games in terms of how braindead 95% of it is, it's actually easier than quite a few of the other FF games, not like that's saying much.

FF can fucking die, shitty franchise with only 2 games, DQ as well can die with it too as well as that disney garbage.

SaGa when?

>>388017212
A complete game.

>>388039985
>are implying that XV isn't casual as fuck?

You clearly can't read then, both are braindead as shit and dumbed down for new fans

>>388017476
Rolling.

>>388017476
Rolling this bad boy.

>>388040132
Then why the fuck are you complaining. FF has always been easy and casual except for maybe one mainline game and one spinoff and even then only certain fights.
Just because he brought up P5 doesn't mean he wants it to be more difficult or that it's turn based perfection. He literally just said that turn based games can still sell well enough.

>>388040508
PC is getting the full version in 8K.

Go completely realtime with the combat a la Elder Scrolls or some similar action RPG setup. Don't bring up tons of command windows and make enemies or party members wait between attack animations; just make battle sequences an all-out melee. Square has done this plenty of times with Mana games. No one ever complained.

Don't restrict character development to classes or some other shit. Let characters be trained in a multitude of proficiencies and skills like in SaGa games. If people are adverse to that much grinding, then skills could also be trained simply by purchasing training from NPCs. Forgo a traditional experience level system, for that matter. Allow attributes to power up as they're put to use, like in Elder Scrolls or FF2.

Don't make Agni some dumb damsel in distress trope whose soul purpose is fanservice. But don't also gravitate toward the opposite extreme and make her another Lightning. Why does Square have so much difficulty creating realistic female characters?

Go completely open-world from the very start of the game. Also make primary story objectives non-linear.

>>388017212
i want to see tactics 2 or tactics 3d fuck you squeenix

>>388020250
7*

>>388040590
the image is a joke

>>388017212
Turn-based combat.

>>388017476
give me the name of 64

>>388017476
Yeee

>>388017476
>100 is actually male

>>388040864
Woah dude

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>>388040864
HOLY SHIT I GOT 64

>>388040925
Darkness

Life is good.

>>388040864
Mother fucker, you got Wiz.

>>388040637
>Implement the worst levelling system of them all
It doesn't work at all for armor / health / defense levels. It was shit in FF2 and it was shit in Skyrim too.

It worked fine with weapons though.

Classes
Medieval
Give me a world like Ivalice in FFT.

>>388017476
Titty monster get

>>388017212
Quality that is actually reflective of the development period.

>>388017476
hello

>>388041116
>It was shit in FF2 and it was shit in Skyrim too.

Both games are fine. Quell your autism.

>>388017476
Someone hot pls

>>388041632
>FF2 is fine.
>You need to get hurt and STAY HURT until the end of the fight for a chance to increase HP.
>Good
wew lad

>>388034138
it's been a while but couldn't you just disable gambits and control all your party members if you wanted?

>>388017476
73-74

>>388018496
That's what I would want really.
Omnibus sort of thing, guys travelling round the globe, bonding, solving shit for others, maybe picking up new buddies along the way.
Would be great if they somehow found a way to do it in a non modern/current day setting too.

>>388017476
gib booty plz

Character creator and jobs as deep as XIV at least, but no MMO combat, make it turn based

>>388020168
>16 is a huge number

Not really. Zelda has 18 main games and Mario has 15 main games (both according to Wiki).

Also, the name "Final Fantasy" doesn't really mean anything as far as the gameplay or story is concerned. They are all disconnected from each other and only share some common elements like monsters and spells.

There's no reason they shouldn't keep making FF until Square Enix finally kills themselves.

A good game.

I'm banking on VII remake being okay but I have a feeling it's going to be absolute trash.

If it is, then I'm pretty much done with FF and I'll stick to replaying the older games.

>>388017212
Deep Space setting since I'm sick of FNC, modern settings, and they could use a break from swords and sorcery as well

Return of true menu based combat with no movement involved

Nomura relegated to character design and nothing more

3 females in the party

A straightforward story. Enough of this convoluted shit. You hit gold with it in 7 and 10, but those were the exceptions, not the rule. Clear motivations for the villain and heroes, and no misdirecting to the point where we don't realize who lied about what until getting to the end of the game or looking through the god damn logbook.

Not sure whether I want fixed classes or a job class system. Definitely not everyone can be anything, or at least not until you hit the middle to end of the game like X.

Maybe a mix of the two where each character can change classes within their role.

Bring back sidequests that actually effect the world and characters. Wutai is the best fucking sidequest in RPG if not videogame history. In XII and XIII (and I haven't played XV, but I wouldn't be surprised if it followed suit) sidequests were noticeboard bullshit with forgettable lore.

In X (yes fuckers I like X) you saw shit like Lulu's grief over her previous summoner, huge expansion on the motivations and origins of one of the major villains, and closure on a lot of recurring NPCs. What the fuck happened to that shit and why was it replaced by lazy bullshit?

I guess if you compare characters ff15 wins by a longshot against ff13 just for the reason alone that it doesnt have lightning in it.

>>388017212
The return of Fantasy.

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>>388043582
Fabula Nova Crystallis could have been its own stand-alone franchise.

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Want:
Director/main writer: Tetsuya Takahashi
music: Yatsunori Mitsuda
character designs: Akihiko Yoshida

Realistically hope for:
Director: Naoki Yoshida
Writer: Masato Kato
music: Masayoshi Soken
character designs: Tetsuya Nomura

>>388041632
The armor skills where the most troublesome to level up in the entire game by a long shot. Would you call that "fine"?

>>388043582
>they could use a break from swords and sorcery as well
They haven't done a proper medieval setting since fucking Final Fantasy V.

Enough of a break I say.

>>388018496
>>388019293
>>388019750

This is a stupid idea for a JRPG. They are about fantastic adventures, magic, and saving the fucking world -or at least a kingdom. I have they never take your ideas and make a FF game out of it. Those ideas would be fine for a different type of game franchise.

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>>388033812
Soon.

>>388043582
XII sidequests were not forgetable. Also FFXII as a whole was a lorefag's wet dream, so much info it contained about the world and everything within it.

>>388045581
Wait.
Is this an actual thing?

>>388027113
You can blame the idiots who actually paid for the DLC for FFXIII-2. SE saw that an ran with it thinking, "these fools will pay any sum we want for story to complete the game!"

Morons.

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>>388045381
I mean if we're saying that "ancient tech" and foreign nation shit disqualifies them from being S&S, V and III might be the only games in the series that fits the bill. And V still had Omega.

But when I say S&S I'm using the terminology that is inclusive of medieval but not equal to it. Basically the majority of the world and tech in I through VI, IX, XII, a lot of the spinoffs, and XIV are pre-modern and that's a setting we can shy away from for now imo, but I don't want any more modern or near-future shit either.

I'd rather they do somewhat large zones like they did in FF12/ than what they did with FF15.

If they stick with real-time combat then I hope I can switch and control party members unlike FF15.

>>388040637
>Don't make Agni some dumb damsel in distress trope whose soul purpose is fanservice. But don't also gravitate toward the opposite extreme and make her another Lightning. Why does Square have so much difficulty creating realistic female characters?

SE tends to find it difficult to create the perfect balance of a likeable female who isn't a bitch, attractive but not placed in the game for fan service, is strong yet shows vulnerability at the same time and isn't relegated to being a helpless girl - oh wait I just thought of Freya Crescent but she's not human or the MC. Too bad.

>>388041786
Yes.

>>388043582
>A straightforward story. Enough of this convoluted shit

Fucking this. SE needs to stop thinking t a convoluted story automatically makes it good or DEEP.

Looking at you, Kingdom Hearts.

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They tend to make the female protagonist into fanservice dressups assuming they get a sequel ala FF10-2and FF13-3. Hard to take Lightning seriously if she dressed like a clown

>>388017212
Grills as qt as Fang and Lightning. Agni is looking to fit the bill, though.