Defend this, /v/. I dare you.

You're putting yourself on the waiting list for the game's inevitable DLC?

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>>388013428
gimme some fucking dlc that removes the fucking rabbit bullshitesdohnafna;ioansjanfka.

It's ok when Nintendo does it.

Ubisoft selling 3 or 4 skins for 10 dollars is the default since 2011

Ubisoft

These actions are not as abhorrent when performed by the company known as Nintendo

>>388013428
Ubisoft

>>388013543
This but unironically since Ninty are the only ones still doing quality expansions instead of microtransaction skin shit

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>>388013428
Defend what?

This is the modern game industry

>>388013560
>>388013543
>>388013592
It's not like Ninty doesn't do the same

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>>388013428
I'm not going to defend it, Ubisoft can suck a dick.

Will pirate both game and DLC.

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>Ubisoft

You're retarded if you didn't expect this

>>388013685
Can you pirate Switch games?

The greatest shame of this game is that I'm sure Nintendo could have made a nice Original IP for the gameplay, learning their lesson from S.T.E.A.M. and using the people Behind ARMS for character design.

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>>388013428
>people are surprised when an Ubisoft game has DLC

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>Steampunk

>>388013756
>learning their lesson from S.T.E.A.M
you mean the game no one bought?

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>I-it's Ubisoft's fault!
>nintendo would never do this!

>8 exclusive steampunk weapons
Oh boy, I think we can work out the target audience for this.

So is there a reason why this DLC isn't in the game and free for everyone? Besides corporate greed?

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>>388013616
>This but unironically since Ninty are the only ones still doing quality expansions instead of microtransaction skin shit

It's worse, you need to buy shitty toys to unlock new outfit skins

>>388013895
>OP gets blown the fuck out
>Proceeds to do damage control

>That content.

That's not even $2 worth, the fuck is this.

>>388013851

Yeah, the lesson is to not go for western aesthetics.

>>388013986
Same with Crystal Chronicles. Hell, you could go all the way back to the games with R.O.B.

>>388013428
Considering that this is an Ubisoft game, i wouldn't be surprised if it drops the price quickly, might get it on a sale.

>>388013986
>shitty toys
The Amiibo are great quality, you're basically paying for more great content and keeping a nice toy for free, you dumb nygger

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>>388013895
Oh you mean your shit on Nintendo topic didn't go the way it planned OP? i'm sorry, you can try again

>>388013428
While it still sucks, I gotta point out that this is surprisingly tame of Ubisoft.

>No pre-order special items that are impossible to get otherwise.
>No tons and tons of small mcirotransactions
>No bunch of small packs of dlc.

>>388013740
You'll probably be able to by the end of year.
Not on the latest firmware, mind you, but still.

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>>388014259
>The Amiibo are great quality, you're basically paying for more great content

>>388013710
who and what and where

someone explain this shit

Looks like Nintendo "got with the times".

Why would I, this was expected out of Jewbisoft

>buying or even caring about ubishit games
Cease.

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>>388014259
Never thought I'd see /v/ defend DLC, let alone an accessory that you have to physically buy

>>388013428
Depends how much is it?

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>>388013616
>Here's your content pack bro.

>>388014346
>>388014592
>acting like this wasn't common practice and much worse before Ninty did it
They took a shitty business model and made it work, what's wrong with that?

>>388014120
>Same with Crystal Chronicles
Not the same. Requiring the GBA for multiplayer was actually pretty innovative for the time, and since the GBA is it's own standalone handheld, it had it's own library of great games. Most people probably had a GBA already anyway.

>Hell, you could go all the way back to the games with R.O.B.
Except R.O.B. came bundled with the NES

>>388014714
>they took a shitty business model and made it work, what's wrong with that?

You already answered your own question

I think the solution for you is to not buy it. I will wait until I can see if it's worth it or not.

>>388014406
I don't blame you for not knowing.
AGDQ is a speedrunning event, well, more like a money laundering scheme.

Anyways, during some tetris speedrun, those two men in wigs decided to shoehorn themselves in, like they had been for the entire event, and kissed on camera.

Nintendo DLC is usually high quality so I'm sure it'll be worth it. Mario Golf 3DS had an excellent season pass.

>>388013616
But it's Ubisoft's game not Nintendo's

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>defending it because it's ubisoft's fault and not nintendo's
ah yes, ubi can do whatever they like without nintendo's consent

>>388014774
Obviously I meant that they fixed it by putting out quality instead of cheap shit
>>388014682
It's free, what are you complaining about?

>>388013428
Here's what's going to happen:
>nobody defends it
>OP sees this
>decides to falseflag as a nintendo fanboy defending it
>proceeds to bitch about how nintendo fanboys (aka himself falseflagging) defend it
Repeat 10-15 times

>>388014996
>Obviously I meant that they fixed it by putting out quality

>quality

>>388014714
>>388014996
see>>388013959

DLC should never cost money, especially when it's announced before the game is even out.

>08/23/2017
>People still bitching about DLC even though it's industry standard now
Quick anon, tell me all the ways how Nintendo ruined video games by following what other consoles had already done and their fanbase has accepted

>>388013428
at least it isnt lock behind amiibos...
is it?

>>388013756
How retarded are you? Ubisoft came to them and specifically wanted to make a Mario and Rabbids crossover. It was always going to feature Mario.

>>388015189
That's only true if the DLC is a part of the core game. If the released game is a complete product by itself and the DLC is completely optional, then I see nothing wrong with it. You don't have to buy it if you don't like it.

You will defend anything, vermin, you would even defend locked content on FIFA by Ronaldo and Messi amiibos

>>388013428
You think I'm actually playing this shit?

>>388013543
But it's Ubisoft doing it.

>>388015553
>implying FIFA would let anyone else profit off of any of their stuff

>>388014259
>The Amiibo are great quality,
I collect real figures so I can tell you that no the amiibos are not great quality. Their paint jobs in particular are very sloppy.

>>388013428
but its unblockable

>>388013428
the only reason people have this nintendo is better than everyone else and won't jew their customers bullshit ingrained to them was because for 2 generations they lacked the infastructure to be able to do these practice, the wiis online was piss poor, and the system and had only 512 megabytes of sotrage
the wiiu had the online infastructure to handle dlc but the system came with a pitiful amount of storage space for a home console

you fuckers wanted nintendo to catch up to sony and micorosft, and they caught up to them in the worst practices and some of the necessary ones in order to support them
it's your fault

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>>388013428
Defend what? Every company does this and every time these threads happen. It sucks but who fucking cares.

>>388015507
If it's not cosmetic, I consider it part of the core game. That's my content and I demand it for free.

>>388014714
Except the model doesn't work because the shitty McDonald's toys go out of print quickly. Nintendo doesn't do reprints so after that point you can only get them by paying $50 to some scalper. Other companies don't have DLC that goes out of stock like Nintendo does.

>>388015749
And how much did you pay for those figures of yours?

>>388013428
Remember when Nintenbabs would shit on everyone else because Nintendo said they would never do paid DLC?

Where are they now? Probably waiting for the true end of BotW to release this Winter, lmao

>>388013895
>changing the subject

>>388015885
Like $40-50. Same price you pay to scalpers for out of print amiibos.

>>388015848
Under your wording, no sequels should ever exist and they should provide all of those additional content as free updates. Don't go full retard on me.

>>388013428
>hiding the ending behind DLC

This is fucking up. First BotW, now Kingdom Battle. I bet Mario Odyssey will be the same. baka, Nintendo has really become the most jewish video game company

>It's okay when ubisoft does it on a nintendo console

>>388013428
This is a shame. Nintendo used to be the last beacon of integrity in gaming.

Guess gaming is dead now...

>>388015978
And you pay way much more for limited edition figures that's not an Amiibo. And that's not factoring in that you're comparing the price of a retailer to that of a reseller.

>>388016032
>Under your wording, no sequels should ever exist and they should provide all of those additional content as free updates
I don't see the problem with that logic. My favorite companies do that all the time.

>>388016037
>Nintendo has really become the most jewish video game company
EA still exists.

>>388013428
It's not okay when Nintendo does it?

>>388015848
>I demand
Good luck, cuck.

>>388013428
wouldnt have an issue with this, but then i saw it has launch content. that is awful, fuck ubisoft

>>388016261
You want to start naming some of those games?

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>>388013428
>It's not ok when nintendo does it

http://gamersxtreme.org/2011/11/18/nintendo-stands-tall-against-dlc/
What happened?

I don't understand why /v/ still has the reputation of being "Nintendogaf". /v/ has been pretty vocal about how shit the Wii U was (which I personally disagree with, but that's neither here nor there), how shit the Switch is, how consumer-unfriendly Amiibos/DLC are, etc. Nintendo hasn't been consistently praised here for at least the past four years.

>>388016306
>>388016423
It's not okay when anyone does it.

>>388016241
Okay so stop using the "b-but you get a figure" argument. They don't look good on display they just take up space and are generally poor quality. There is nothing good about amiibos

DLC before the game is even out is a blight.

>>388016506
But other companies have been doing this for a decade. All of a sudden it's terrible when Nintendo starts doing it?

>>388016471
6 years ago. Do you know how much shit can/has happen in 6 goddamn years?

>>388016423
Its not OK when anyone does it. But company's like money so they will do it anyway.
And since we are on /v/ and its a meme to hate anything Nintendo does regardless of context. And this is Ubisoft's game so they can do whatever they want with it.

>>388016525
You get what you paid for, and for retailer price, it's a hell of a good quality.

>>388016598
No one defended it when other companies did it either. We all cried foul.

>>388016732
It isn't good quality matter how much you insist it is.

>>388016372
>Terraria
>FTL
>dwarf Fortress
>TF2 to an extent (if you ignore the occasional crappy update and optional cosmetics)

Shoot, entire swathes of indies do this just because they can, like the guy behind Hydorah and the Curse of Issyos.

>>388013428
Neat. Will buy. Thanks for the heads up OP!

>>388016598
The only people who defended it when other companies did it were retards. You're essentially saying "I want to be retarded because everyone else is".

>>388016840
It's more than good enough for the price you paid for it. I mean, seriously, not everyone wants to pay $60+ for a figure. We just want a nice cheap trinket to show our appreciation for a certain franchise and if it's just so happens to not be of a Sader quality, so much the better.

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>>388014996
>It's free

>>388016859
>Indie games
Nigga, you want to add on Early Access games to that list while you're at it?

>>388013428
Unreleated, but have you thought about killing yourself, OP?

Seems the best solution for you

>>388016598
Yes? Nintendo should've rocked the boat. Image if the Switch was marketed as the only "console" with no paid online, DLC, or microtransactions? Those gimmicks would've completely curb stomped shit like portability, Joycons, HD rumble, waggling, etc.

>>388017152
No one actually likes the design of amiibos so they should stop making them and just include that content in the games for free

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>>388017239
>those don't count because ????

Also, funny you use "early access" in a bad light, when you're essentially being sold a 60 dollar game that'll last you 5 hours if you're lucky, and you have to buy the rest of it as DLC if you want a complete experience.

>>388017397
No it wouldn't. You are not getting what industry standard means. At all.

>>388017397
That'd be dumb. Like it or not companies need to make money.

>>388016471
Iwata happened. Investors and other higher ups didn't agree, but Iwata was president.

>Bitches about lack of third party games
>Not buying a game because MUH GAMER INTEGRITY
>"BAWWW WHY ISN'T THE SWITCH GETTING THIRD PARTY SUPPORT?"

>>388016471
Iwata had to sacrifice his dignity if they wanted to survive.

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>>388013428
I hope Nintendo realizes how lucky they are to have fans like these.

>>388017885
Reading comments like these actually make me sick.

>>388014120
The thing about ROB is that as a second player he was more of a detriment than anything. You could push buttons faster than he could and just be both players for all the good he does.

>>388017540
Alright, if you want to play that game.
>Terraria
Where's my spaceship and multiple planets from Starbound? That should have totally been included as a free update instead of another game
>FTL
Fulfulling kickstarter promises is not the same as giving out free content updates for no reason
>Dwarf Fortress
Really? You want to include a free game on your list? You want to include mobages as well?
>TF2
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

>>388017397
Why do that when consumers are not only okay with being jewed, but emphatically wish to be jewed?

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>>388017663
>Investors and other higher ups didn't agree

Oh my sweet summer child

>>388018079
>Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Dumb Euro poster.

>>388017885
Wow, 1 retweet and 7 likes. This person must be one hell of an influential person for you to post an image of his post of.

>>388013543
Ubisoft, sweetie

>>388013538
please calm down anon
the rabbits are fine

>>388018079
>Where's my spaceship and multiple planets from Starbound? That should have totally been included as a free update instead of another game
You DO realize Starbound has no affiliation with Terraria, right? Infact, Starbound is unfinished garbage. And funny you say that, you get to build multiple worlds AND have your own spaceship as of 1.3.

>Fulfulling kickstarter promises is not the same as giving out free content updates for no reason
But they have no reason to fulfill the kickstarter promises. They did it anyway out of good faith.

>Really? You want to include a free game on your list? You want to include mobages as well?
"It has to cost money, or it isn't good." Corporate apologists everyone.

>Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Laugh if you want, the only really bad part is the cosmetics, which I said were perfectly fine as long as they're optional and don't impact my enjoyment of the game.

>>388018235
its probably his twitter account. Unless he follows a bunch of people with only 20 followers like himself. Because its him.

>unexpected story content
>but if they're announcing it then we'll be expecting it, far more if you actually spend money on this

>>388013428
It's Nintendo.

>>388013895
What was the "additional map feature" for the DLC 1 pack?

>>388019265
Hero's Path

>>388018517
Does not matter. All of that content from Starbound should have been a part ot Terraria, especially given at the moment, Starbound is a reskinned Terraria but with less content and freedom.

>no reason to fulfill kickstarter promises
Wait, what? They don't have to therefore it's ok if they don't. All of that update is something that should have been a part of the core game. This is nothing remotely similar to optional DLCs.

>"It has to cost money, or it isn't good." Corporate apologists everyone.
The point is that mobages are free and have constant free content/updates. More apt of an example than DF and still not an applicable comparison.

It's TF2. You don't defend it. Ever.

>>388019352
>Hero's Path
Oh right. For some reason I thought it meant adding a new area to the actual world, not the map UI.

>>388013538
>gimme some fucking dlc that removes ubisoft
ftfy

>>388019352
Wasn't it also the impromptu teleport/respawn point (travel medallion) as well?

>>388019415
>All of that content from Starbound should have been a part ot Terraria,
And if you've been keeping up with updates, it actually is. It's even better implemented. But you'll just retort with "nuh uh" so I don't know why I'm even bothering.

>All of that update is something that should have been a part of the core game
Which is why they added it in for free. That's the bottom line. It didn't cost money.

>The point is that mobages are free and have constant free content/updates.
So why is that a bad thing?

>It's TF2. You don't defend it. Ever.
What are you gonna do about it?

>>388019690
>Starbound
The point is that Starbound was made and they charged money for it. It should have never existed and all of its update should have been a part of Terraria.

>FTL
That's the fucking point. It wasn't some new additional stuff, it's part of the core game aka what they promised. It has nothing to do with optional DLC.

>Mobage
Because 'free' games have a much different system (development, cost, profit) than that of normal video games.

>TF2
Can we just drop this? This is just going to derail into even more shitposting.

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>>388013428
Are we now in the 'Go Big For Launch' phase?

>>388020287
>The point is that Starbound was made and they charged money for it. It should have never existed and all of its update should have been a part of Terraria.
In a way you're right. That's why Starbound is garbage and Chucklefish deserves bankruptcy. Thankfully Terraria added that content in with the updates after 1.3 I have a smaller, better spaceship, and I can create and visit worlds on the go.

>That's the fucking point. It wasn't some new additional stuff, it's part of the core game aka what they promised.
And they delivered, and plenty more stuff they didn't promise.

>Because 'free' games have a much different system (development, cost, profit) than that of normal video games.
And who's fault is that for wasting money on graphics and voice acting and marketing, to the point where you'd suffer major financial losses for not price gouging?

>Can we just drop this? This is just going to derail into even more shitposting.
not until you tell me why TF2 isn't a perfect example of a good concept of DLC, where I can get everything ingame, and most paywalled stuff is cosmetic. Execution is flawed because Valve are idiots, but it doesn't change the fact that all game content is available to me without paying money.

>>388013428
It could be worse: they could NOT tell you what's in the season pass until it comes out.
How much is it?

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>People still getting surprised over DLC practices in today's age, in the current state the video game industry is at

If anything, I'm more surprised Ubisoft isn't taking advantage of Nintendo fans even more. This is strangely tame of them, even Nintendo themselves got way more out of its fans on similar occasions.

>>388021591
>Starbound
Alright, since we've reached the end of discussiom for this, we can drop it.

>FTL
In the end, we have no idea what exactly isn't promised as the list of features on the original kickstarter page is in way too general in terms. I say it's what is a part of the core game while you say some are and some aren't. I think we just have to agree to disagree here.

>mobages
Look, I'm just saying 'free' games are just too fundamentally different from normal games to compare them to a 1:1 aspect. DF is a great game that gets update but you really can't compare it to a random AAA or similar game here. The development and cost is just too different.

>TF2
Because it has essentially turned into a mobage format/Nexon MMO pricing system. Except people had paid for the game. Why should anything be behind any paywall when we've already paid for it?

>>388013428
If anything this is less jewish than I expected considering that both Ubisoft and Nintendo are involved.

>>388023264
>In the end, we have no idea what exactly isn't promised
The point is that he didn't charge a single penny, and continues to support it to this day.

>DF is a great game that gets update but you really can't compare it to a random AAA or similar game here. The development and cost is just too different.
You're right. I can't compare them, but I can say that DF is superior because its priorities were "gameplay" over everything else. Meanwhile, Ubisoft needed billions of dollars to make cutscenes of Peach rabbid taking selfies.

>Why should anything be behind any paywall when we've already paid for it?
There aren't paywalls though. I said before, if every single bit of DLC for Mario and Rabbids was cosmetic, there wouldn't be an issue. Likewise, nothing in TF2 is paywalled that actively contributes to gameplay.

>>388013428
As long as I can get Rayman out of it, I'll get it.

>>388013428
Poorfags are the only ones who defends this.
Like almost every third party they always put season pass on this days. Don't buy if you don't like it poorfags

>>388024878
>Poorfags are the only ones who get angry about this.
fixed.

>>388024293
>FTL
It's not really 'free' if we had paid for the game and the update was merely delivering what we had paid for the game. Of course, that is what we're disagreeing with here, whether or not the update is part of core game.

>DF
Yeah, not much to discuss here. It seems like it's just technicalities we're arguing about now.

>TF2
Alright, let me apologize first as I tried to pull a gotcha on you by basically repeating your original argument against you. Truthfully, my opinion is that TF2 essentially uses the same business model as Overwatch, a lot of mobages and MMO's now, which disgusts me. They might give 'free' updates (not really free since we did pay for it) but those updates only serves as a platform for people to send money on IAP. Single player games simply have a different way of making money as compared to online multiplayer focus ones.

>>388025562
>Single player games simply have a different way of making money as compared to online multiplayer focus ones.
Aren't they already making money by putting out a 10 dollar game and charging 60 bucks for it? With the Mario label it's guaranteed to make bank without even trying. This DLC just further strikes me as greed.

>>388025914
No, not really. SP games is usually define by when the game starts up until the game ending play aka the core game. That is what you had paid for. Anything else beyond that is completely optional and not needed. It would be nice to have, but not required. Costumes are nice, but not required. Side stories are also nice, but also not required. People pay for an x-com lite game featuring Mario and the Rabbids, and the game does exactly that. The season pass stuff just provides additional content beyond that.

>>388013428
Nope. I just cancelled my pre-order. F*ck season passes

>>388026924
>The season pass stuff just provides additional content beyond that.
The problem is that the game isn't even out yet. There is no reason to exclude this content. It should be in for free. Especially when I'm paying 60 bucks. No game should have DLC at that price point.

>>388028057
Anon, there are tons of other games that costs $60 and I'm sure you had paid for some of them. Most notably, x-com 2.

>>388013895
>Season pass bullshit
>"fuck ubisoft"
>"nu uh, you weren't suppose to react this way, hate Nintendo! They did this too, see!"

I don't see the words "season pass" anywhere in that image. Show me.

>>388014054
There was nothing wrong with the aesthetics. In fact I found it quite unique and refreshing.

The problem was retards blabbering on about how the game '''''sucked''''' even though they had no idea how to actually play it.

Seriously S.T.E.A.M is up there with Devil's Third and The Wonderful 101 for new NIntendo IPs that were unfairly treated by the corrupt gaming press.

>>388013895
This is somewhat amusing as you really can't call this a season pass since it's all or nothing here. You can't buy them individually so it's more like a normal DLC but released over time instead of all at once.

>>388017885
But why? I don't understand, $20 takes me a week to have, because I care about my money, why would people waste such a large amount of hard earned money on garbage like this?

>>388013428
The launch pre-order shit is gay, updated challenges coming out in a couple months seems alright, and a story expansion that is coming out next year is incredibly reasonable. That's 2/3 acceptable dlc right there.

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>>388013428
>Xcom Mario
>Rabbids
>Season Pass
This fucking mixed bag

>>388029423
steam looked horrible anon

>>388029809
The launch thing seems more like a preorder bonus for the season's pass. Something for buyers to enjoy while they wait for the other stuff.

>>388015978
>buys $40-50 dollar anime figures
>thinks he can tell quality

>>388030012
That anon used Devil's Third as an example of a good but misunderstood game. He's trolling.

>>388030086
Yeah I get that, it's just my least favorite dlc practice.

I know the responses I will get, but here goes anyways:

DLC that can at least be tolerated:
>Expansions that add to a completed and finished game
>Cosmetic purely for appearances stuff only vain people would want that does not affect gameplay at all
>Anything added by free patches because its free

"your game is shit, fuck off already" DLC:
>Pay to win bullshit
>Literal huge gaping holes in the game made to force you to buy said missing parts as DLC, especially missing story that actually made the game's story make sense
>Massive bullshit like entire gameplay modes or entirely new gameplay styles locked behind DLC that has to be bought to be experienced
>One of the worst offenders to me, the "buy to skip grinding" DLC. Because if you make this option, you are acknowledging that in game grinding could have been easier saving everyone time AND money, but you chose to jew customers and frustrate them at the same time instead.

>>388015949
Remember when Xbox fans were mocked openly at any given opportunity for paying to play online? And then remember when Sony did it and suddenly it "wasn't that big a deal" anymore?

>>388030320
The 'season's pass' is really just a renamed expansion pack but released over time.

>>388016501
It's like when Summerfag was an insult only during Summer. It's just a meme

>Xcom
Strike one.
>Rabbids
Strike two
>Season pass
Strike three, you're out Ubisoft. Nintendo should never lend you anything ever again. This game will be fondly remembered in the future right next to other games of similar quality, such as Hotel Mario, Mario Teaches Typing, and Mario's Time Machine.

On-launch DLC is bullshit.

>>388013428
>A new unexpected story content
>yfw it's a Rayman-based campaign

>>388029008
Hahahah. Oh anon, if ony you knew. I haven't paid more than 20 bucks for a game in 10 years.

>>388014996
>It's free
fuck off no it wasn't

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>>388030542
>>One of the worst offenders to me, the "buy to skip grinding" DLC
I pirated this shit on Tokyo Mirage, along with the entire game. Would've never finished it if not for that.

>>388013428
It's okay when Nintendo does it, Sonybro. Or is it your first day here?

>>388030914
>Nintendo should never lend you anything ever again.
But why? Aside from the season pass getting lukewarm reception, Mario-Rabbids has been pretty positively received. Nintendo probably already sees it as a successful joint business venture.

>>388030914
Its Nintendo's IP so Ubisoft still has to get Nintendo's permission before implementing this Jew DLC. Its not like Nintendo is free of blame here.

>>388013428
>Ubisoft
yeah, and?