*Nerfs your main*

>>387992304
If you're retarded enough to play this game, you got only yourself to blame.

>>387992304

Nerfs and buffs rotate to keep idiots like you invested to the game.

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>>387992304
>Main in a team based shooter

>nerf perfectly viable and balanced hero because of shitters that can't learn and adapt to one shot hook combo
>release nigger that one shots even more heroes of the roster, with less skill and less risk involved

Just play Offense, the only class they're catering to. Every other role is made for babysitting Offense at this point.

Or even better, stop playing the game.

>>387992304
>He mained d.va

HAHAHAHAH
maybe now you'll start playing a hero that requires more than 2 brain cells of yours to be functioning at the time, and perhaps even improve at the game, finally

>nerf dva matrice
>Now soldier and Reaper will kill everyone with their retarded ult

Nice job.

Never, NEVER let jews balance your games

>>387992304
>the people who made the game are further adjusting the game that they've made omg I can't believe this!
>le muh main XDDD

Kill yourselves, all of you.

>>387992689
Because defense matrix wasn't one of the most retarded low skill abilities that was, right?

fuck off retard
>holds right click and be a pain in the ass of everyone with no effort whatsoever
something as stupid as that had no place in the game
just like something as stupid as mercy's design don't I bet she's one of your favorite heroes too, isn't she, you low ello shitter
maybe now you'll have fewer excuses to play heroes for dumb people

>>387992549
Amen

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>>387992443
>He doesn't know that you lose SR gains if you swap between heroes in a comp match.

>>387993219
Source?

>>387992304
> *Nerfs your main*
but based Jeff is buffing junkrat.

>>387992304
Of course, because Jeff is so BASED and has way more hours on Overwatch than anyone else

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>>387992304
>"Oh yeah and by the way we purposely placed people lower than they should be the last two seasons expecting them to climb up and it didn't work for most."

>>387994082
Is that serious? Jesus christ.

>>387992304
>implying i play your shit game jeff

>>387993219
>Making shit up

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>>387992304
*uninstalls your game*

>>387993148

>every single ability needs to be the pinnacle of skilled play

This is a flawed mindset

*adds more and more skins*
*balance patches consist of either killing a hero or making it a god*
*balance patches come out every 8 months*

I LOVE THIS GAME!

>>387994635
The dynamic metagame is artificial, the game is intentionawlly made to be imbalanced to give it the illusion of people finding out new tactics

>>387992487
>less risk involved
>has to get close to the enemy to do shit
>has a loud charge sound FX
>less health
Doomfist is dogshit if you're not a garbage can.
McCree, tracer, sombra, and pharah can easily deal with him
All you literally have to do is dodge his loud, telegraphed attack.

>>387994082
>We effectively proved our ranking system is horribly dysfunctional

GEE WHODA THUNK IT?

I hate whoever thought up the whole "ranked season" idea. MMR is not meant to be a form of progression. It's supposed to ensure that everyone has fun matches that adequately fit their skill level. But because everything has to be addictive these days of course companies are trying to make it just another skinner box.

>>387994820
>charge for literally just a second
>go through shield
>uppercut up and jump away
>250hp, more than all other DPS heroes
>shield every time he hits someone with his fist
>low cooldowns
>massive hitbox on his punch

I stayed in top 500 for 3 weeks and you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>387992341
This

>>387992443
*Hero based shitfest

>>387994476
no but the heroes should be better designed
instead they choose to purposely create heroes like d.va and mercy so even your girlfriend can play ranked and feel like she's doing something
they prefer to attract all sorts of audiences into the game and find a way to please them to make them stay, rather than balance the characters in a way that effort and raw skill would count more than the pressing/holding of a single button

>>387992304
>I don't main

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>turns tank into a dps
we think this is gonna be really fun for the community and we're super excited about it

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>nerf Roadhog into uselessness because "one-shots are toxic"

>the very next hero is based around one-shots and is even easier to execute it

>>387994192
https://youtu.be/Jqf0e8zzyCw?t=306

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>>387994082
this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

it just doesn't work for a team-based game. individual skill is not that powerful.

I think it's time to admit that public history profiles was a mistake.

They have NEVER been used for anything other than looking at someone's past rank and insulting them with it.

Just show a ranking of most played hero -> least played. Even if you just show hours played people would just use that as a tool "you have 300 hours on (hero) and you don't know how to play them!"

Having a permanent record is just plain dumb.

>>387992304
He hasn't nerfed my main, but it has been useless since season 2. RIP in pieces, Mccree.

>>387996062
>removing my ability to check which of the fuckheads on my team have 80% of their time on Widow, Hanzo, or Genji
No thanks.

>>387996062
Everyone who isn't Blizzard has known this for years before Overwatch even launched.

>nerfs hero that one shots most characters
>adds new hero that can one shot everyone

>>387996207
>adds new hero that can one shot everyone
Are you retarded?

>>387992689
Not just that but with Reapers self heal buff D.Va was the only character who could reasonably keep him in check since if you DM him he can't heal.

If they nerf matrix Reaper is going to become retardedly overpowered. I can't fucking wait to see the babies begging for Reaper to be nerfed or for matrix to come back.

The only reason why you're seeing so much use of Matrix now is because its the only good aspect of D.Va's kit and outside of it she's trash.

The nerf in January was a fucking mistake. They should have gutted Ana since her kit is actually fucking stupid in a game like this and removed the 100 HP from D.Va they gave her back in November as nobody asked for the buff and she wasn't a problem before then.

>>387993148
Because its so hard to wait for D.Va to be out of mech before pressing Q right? Because its so hard to get the high ground before pressing Q after visibly seeing D.Va boost before hand during tact visor which makes DM worthless. The only low elo shitter here is you.

>>387996062
t.gold support player who reached masters with mercy

I guarantee you there's not one legit ACTUALLY good player who would want profile history to be hidden from everyone
If you're ashamed of it, maybe you should practice more, instead of loading this game everyday to fuck around playing mercy or symmetra

>>387996797
That thing lasts a lifetime and is quickly recharged.
If you really think the only complaint about matrix is "muh ultimate" you are retarded

>>387997338
>lasts 4 seconds at max uptime
>takes 10 seconds to fully recharge
>can't be flashed on and off

Regardless a good D.Va is just as annoying as a good Winston during dive comp when he'd isolate you in his bubble and dance in and out of him.

>multiplayer games with shoehorned lore and backstory for every character
Literally why?

>>387996912
Post your profile.

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Why hasn't this faggot nerfed Symmetra yet?

>>387997774
rekt

>>387997856
Valve way should be changed nowadays, the way they nerfs things if their stuff isn't too broken is by making weaknesses bigger.
At least that's how they do it in DotA which is their only game that matters at this point

>>387996912
Post your profile, cuck

>>387999009
He wont, which either means he's trash or his argument is null. Checkmate on this shitter

>he doesn't play random heroes mode

Git gud scrubs

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>>387997774
>>387999009
>>387998721
here, I expect you to do your best

>>387999504
you too >>387999721
take all the time in the world
I'll still have this tab open to come back and reply :^)

>>387994474
You realize you already did what he wanted by buying it?

>>387999698
>lower the skill ceiling even more by adding more random elements

I kek'd

>>387992487
The problem was that roadhog could oneshot while taking very-little-to-no risk or aiming. Doomfist propels himself forward rather than pulling people to him which puts him in danger against a properly positioned tean, while other characters that can oneshot require a high level of accuracy (or luck in Hanzo's case).

>>387992304
Well it seems my bullets now heal the enemy and my roll makes me take damage

>>387999721
>takes 10 minutes to google grandmaster overwatch

Nice try, kiddo

>>387999721
Great, so now post your username so we can cross reference to ensure it's actually you - after all, any *good* player wouldn't want their profile to be private, but you seem to have censored it for some reason.

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>>387992304
>Game is based around changing heroes to counter the other teams comp
>Having a "main"

>>388001074
This is why ranked should have picks and bans.

>>388000739
I actually took the time to load this game 2 times since I changed korean text to english so there wouldn't be any complaints from you that I edited something, as the font is completely different

>>388000993
Yes, I'll post my btag and everything so you can start searching for the smallest thing to criticize
How about you post your profile same way I did this time so we can go further in this? Is that fair enough for you?

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>>388001074
Why do that when y ou can main an off-meta hero that lets you abuse the system. Here's a Sombra main that was able to climb to 4255 despite a 35% win rate.

>>388000993
he posted his, now post yourstoo. surely you aren't some kind of diamond shitter. are you anon?

>>388001227
All you have to do is post your name, which is public. I knew you wouldn't, because you googled for an image to post. Bravo, shitter.

>>388001145
That would make the game incredibly unfun, even more so than it is now. Imagine if the other team has a Pharah main and asks to ban Soldier, Mccree and Widow. Your team now has no way to kill that pharah and she single-handedly carries the game. The whole game would revolve around banning counters against your team's mains.

>>388001414
Taimou pls

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>>388001414
>win % 35

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>>388001414
>lose far more than he wins
>4k+ SR
>I'm sitting at 52% win rate
>stuck in gold since I started caring about comp in early S5

This is why I stopped playing this shitty game. Now I'm only in it for the porn.

>>388001227
>Yes, I'll post my btag and everything so you can start searching for the smallest thing to criticize
>I guarantee you there's not one legit ACTUALLY good player who would want profile history to be hidden from everyone
>If you're ashamed of it, maybe you should practice more, instead of loading this game everyday to fuck around playing mercy or symmetra

L M A O

>>388001529
It works in MOBAs, which is basically what Overwatch is.

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>>387992487
>RHog before the nerf
>requiring skill
lmao Hogmain, keep crying bitch ass nigga.

>>388001529
>well-known pharah main
>ban mercy

>>388001525
Name any hero, then tell me a voice line, or a spray or a skin you want me to printscreen
It'll still have the same profile icon, cutsize in the name, and more importantly the profile level of the last pic
On the other hand, why are you feeling so reluctant about posting your profile aswell? You were saying showing public history is a mistake as it doesn't portray the real skill of that person. I'm sure someone who thinks like that is not a low ello and doesn't have to be insecure about sharing his info too, like I did

>>388001074
The issue is right now entire roster is countered by Tracer, Lucio, Dva and Winston. Hence why dive is so fucking cancerous and has been since it came around. Defensive heroes need buffs but aren't seeing them, supports besides Mercy need buffs, any tank without immediate mobility is considered trash, even Reinhardt who used to be considered THE tank has fallen to the wayside.

>>388001608
Alright my fellow healer main, if you won't even bother doing more than that, let's end our discussion here. Don't you have a top 500 to secure? Go slay them, queen #slay #mercymainbtw #thankyourhealer

>>388001931
>make nearly everyone move the same speed
>only give some heroes strong mobility options
>they end up dominating

How long has Blizzard been trying to balance games again?

>>388002071
Not to mention Genji and Tracer have higher base movement speeds than every other character for some reason

>>388001878
>>388002062
#stumped

It's funny, if you hadn't used a censored image to begin with you could have given their account name and then there'd be a reasonable case for it actually being your account assuming the screenshot wasn't old.

I guess that makes you part of the group of shitters who want their profiles private and thus, a hypocrite. Sad stuff, my friend! Maybe you should try practicing more lmao

>>388002287
Genji as a character is just insane to me. I get that he's a "high skill ceiling character." Isn't that because his kit is so overloaded with shit? What other characters have 3 mobility options, a defense option, and a alt fire?

>>388002287
>for some reason

Because Trcaer has 150 fucking HP. Genji has no reason though. The devs just seem to like him a lot.

>>387997856
I never got the Riot way, since I never played any game from them or any moba for it matters.

>Playing "competitive" overwatch

>>387992304
My main was nerfed before I even picked the game, I don't give a single shit.

Also this game fucking sucks it's literally "wait till your whole team's got ult and press Q at the same time to win"

>>388002678
She also has a move that takes her out of any bad position and regenerates her health, the fastest charging ult in the game and one of if not the smallest model in the game. How much does one character need?

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>>388002620
>Ignoring the request I gave which would prove immediately that is me

Alright lad, I'll just log on now and practice incessantly in my low ello matches in hopes that someday I'll reach your level and be just like (You), thanks for the honest advice

>>388001878
not him, but the red standard Orisa skin

>>388002620
not him but the ball's on your side, pal

>>388002675
But anon he fires unusual projectiles. That justifies all his advantages right?
(I would say his biggest bullshit advantage is his dash. It simultaneously takes him out of danger and does decent damage while refreshing)

I cannot believe how useless Roadhog is now.

At this point it'd be better to just rework the character from the ground up.

>>388002620
oh and by the way, before this thread is archived, feel free to give me your battletag if you want, I'll add you, you'll be able to see the exact same stats for my current competitive season, and who knows we might even do some quick matches together and give some positive win rate to you, for a change
If you're not a plat shitter, that is, that'd be too much weight to carry, even for me

>>387995613
That's a load of bullshit, MMR is the cancer ruining video games.

Who the fuck cares about what rank you're at, just play the game and have fun.

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>>388003080
this one? seems a little orangey/pinkish to me, but the rest are gree, blue or purple

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>>387992304
>doomfist nerfed into the ground due to bronzeshitters
>scatter arrows still instagib people

ebin :-DD

Jokes on you, I main Lucio and he will always be top pick until they take away his speed boost

>>388003581
yep, guess you're legit. good for you.

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>>387992304
>nerfs koth
FUCK

>>388003016
>>388003080
>>388003346
Keep crying, kiddo. No legitimately good player would ever hide their already-public username.

>>388002708
Every ability is piss weak and a lot of heroes are similar to each other.
That results is long battles where you tickle each other with samey abilities until one of you wins.

>>387992304
Is he solely responsible for balance, or is it a team of people? Either way, they're all fucking retarded.
On one hand you have a character like Widow
>entirely skill based, you need extremely precise, steady aim to be effective at all
>all of her skills are useless, I mean, nobody actually dies to that mine of hers
>is completely rendered useless if enemy has Winston
On the other hand you have Symmetra
>literally don't have to aim at all
>can burn through weaker attack characters like soldier, mccree, hanzo, genji, negro, even some tanks as well
>has a shield that can save you life easily
>can kill you even if she's nowhere around you with her turrets
I have never seen worse balancing in a video game in my entire life, and I've played LoL.

>>388000993
>moving the goalpost

>>387992304
What did he nerf this time?

>>387993372
>>387994351
are you retarded? it was proven long ago that the SR system looks at what hero you play and gives mercies for example more points

>>388004452
Kinda like posting a stats page from an account that doesn't belong to you lmao

>>388003716
>nerfs koth
Good, the game mode fucking sucks. Having 80% of all matches going to 99v99 Overtime is boring as shit and not fun to play.

>>387994082
That was so fucking stupid. I can't even fathom what the fuck they were thinking. Why would I want to climb back to the SAME rating I already reached last season.

>>388000495
Roadhog was a very high risk and high reward hero in high skill brackets.

Only shitters don't know how to play against him. In higher skill brackets (Master+) you will see a lot of heroes that are strong against Roadhog being picked, such as D,Va and Zarya. Also, everyone will know how to play against a hog and every time you missed a hook, you got punished for it.

My argument was more about Blizzard balancing a hero around shitters, rather than around high competitive play. Roadhog had a perfect 50% winrate.

>>388004614
he already proved it's his >>388003581
now post yours

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>>387995147
>jeff from the overass team here

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>>388004671
Because it was supposed to have you climb after placements and feel good about yourself before realizing you'll bounce around your actual rank.

>Today, Mercer confirmed something that, in my sad state last night, I had insisted to my teammate: Our ratings are artificially lowered around 200 points between seasons. But during a player’s first 40 to 50 games that season, wins will bring in more SR than they normally would until you’re back up to your real, accurate ranking.
>Mercer understands that it can feel bad to see a low rating after grinding out placement matches. He says it was a compromise: “A lot of game designers make trade-offs between varying goals that sometimes work at opposites. This is one where we made the decision to lower you initially so, as you play, you have a more positive experience.”

>>388001074
>game is based around changing heroes to counter the other teams comp
>but also being able to efficiently build and utilize ultimate abilities, progress toward which isn't carried over after switching
>have to truck back to your spawn to switch or have died with no significant ult charge or otherwise lose efficiency on your abilities that will WIN YOU OBJECTIVES
It's obvious why people choose a "main" and endure through not having the optimal pick for that given minute. The game takes away significant time and power from anyone who does.

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I just want TF3 why does every game have to drop the fucking ball

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>>388004745
Your turn. Post your account name, shitter. You won't.

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>>387992341
>>387994980
yeah you showed them

Why is lucio ball so shit

>>388005240
eeeh, we'll play the game he did. green standard Mcree skin.

>>388005278
why the fuck does reaper wear that ammo belt if he never actually reloads?

>>388005240
>season 4

That's it. I'm done. No more mister nice Jeff.

>still not nearly as fun as ut 2004
Been playing it recently and I have no idea where everything went so wrong.

>>387992671
? there are none though. that's the point of the game.

>>388004687
He's just a poorly designed character for an fps. In Masters the games would literally be which roadhog gets the first hook he was that ridiculous. A roadhog missing his hook wouldn't be punished, he would just hide behind Rein's shield and heal any damage he took. His design means he'll only ever be broken or useless. Also roadhog counters dva if anything considering he can hook through her matrix.

>>388005476
when he takes the belt off, it just melts into smoke and reforms on him

>>388001529
Yeah and the other team could just ban pharah. Problem solved

>>388006528
But they wouldn't know there's a Pharah main on the other team

>>388004632
Yeah fuck this game mode that has the most viable heroes and the most balanced maps. It's much more fun to crush someone randomly on 2cp

>>387992487
Doom fists punch actually does less damage than hog used to with his hook. It does 250 max. Hog hook did 400. Plus some other things to consider like
>doom only has 250 hp instead of 600
>doom has no sustain
>dooms primary fire is one of the worst guns in the game
>doom has to move himself into the enemy team, hog moves the enemy into his team

Sorry hog shitters, but removing hogs OHKO was actually a good move. Someone who's that tanky with some of the best CC in the game shouldn't be able to obliterate people in a single shot.

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>>388007521
>doom only has 250 hp instead of 600
He's far more mobile than Hog.

>doom has no sustain
Generates shields every time he hits someone. If his ult hits square-on it's 75 shields.

>dooms primary fire is one of the worst guns in the game
Fairly inconsequential when his OH-kill has a fucking 4 second cooldown.

>doom has to move himself into the enemy team, hog moves the enemy into his team
Once again, DF is much more mobile than Hog and generates shields on hit.

Hog being able to one-hit kill made sense. Rein has a one-hit kill and nobody complain about his. It feels much more frustrating to die because some DF shitter charged a punch without even looking and the frankly dishonest hitbox clipped your toe and caused you to brush against a pillar or something than because a Hog aimed a hook-shot combo at you with perfect accuracy.

>>387992487
Lmao stay mad, hog poster.

>>387992549
I did, still feel bad for buying it.

>>388006635
Nobody fucking likes pharah. In most brackets you will see the exact same 5 to 6 heroes banned every single game. Jist like dota.
So most likely what you'd actually end up seeing is pharah, genji, widow, tracer, mercy and either d.va, winston or hanzo constantly banned simply because people dislike playing against them

>>388008331
>tfw your stupid friend bought it, stopped playing forever after reaching level 5 and gave you the battle.net accout to play on
I got to level 25 because I held out hope that the game might actually get good on higher levels but it was still the same trash. Super glad I didn't pay for it.

>>388008121
>Pick sombra
>Right click doomfist
>He is literally now a free kill
If you honestly think doomfist is op you have fucking brain damage

>>388008603
>one hero pick absolutely demands the presence of a specific counter

Isn't this the same thing people endless complain about Pharah and Mercy, that if they show up together you absolutely need a good Soldier or McCree or Widow otherwise they'll never die and you're hosed?

>lmao dude Pharmercy isn't OP, just get a keen eyed sniper to shoot them

>>388005340
Because it's just a big empty field. Where are all the obstacles to jump around and get speed boosts from?

>>387992304

Jokes on you! My main has always been shit.

>>388008603
the problem with this situation is you have to play sombra, which means you're entirely useless

>>388008603
Sombra is not always a great pick
If you die as Sombra, he's still doing his job being a pain in the ass
If he dies as Doomfist you're just a Sombra, instead of a Soldier or a Tracer
Woo, good thing you hacked and showed him how unfun you are, congrats, in the big picture you're still a Sombra pick taking 1/6 of your team's composition
Doomfist is annoying in everything he does and he has a reliable one shot skill from time to time. He's badly designed but that wouldn't be the first time for blizzard, would it?

>>387992304
What got changed this time? All I heard is that they're giving Junkrat a second mine and Roadhog more survivability.

>>388009032
>sombra
>useless
ultikek

>>388009174
Giving DVa more offensive options and the ability to shoot while boosting while cutting defense matrix time in half.

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>>387992304
what is going on with his scalp why is there a red shape?

>>388007521
he does a lot of damage if you punch someone into a wall, that's the main thing that makes him OP

>>388009174
>roadhog
>more survivability

roadhog gives the other team ults. D. Va deletes the other teams ults. there is no sane reason to ever pick him

>>388003427
MMR should be completely absent from QP and Arcade. It should only exist in competitive. Prove me wrong.

>>388009032
>Sombra is bad
Hi gold
>>388009072
You realize unless you're trash at tracer you can annihilate doomfist with ease because you're so mobile right? You know you can also just ez mode him with pharah right?
Kill yourself you trash baddie
>>388008810
>One hero demands the presence of another
No, sombra just swings the fight 6v5 immediately in your favor.
You can also stop him with ease as
Pharah
Tracer
Reaper
Even a decent mcree can stop him
He is situationally good but most of the time he's trash. If you're losing to him consistently then my advice to you is git gud. He's not hard to stop at all

>>388009642
>free ults

This is the dumbest thing I always see Overwatch kids parroting. By your logic, healers in general are ult batteries, staying alive is an ult battery.

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>Overwatch is balanced and Blizzard is doing a great job!

>>388010098
Fighting games usually have characters that people leave out, not every character can be equally as good when it comes to comp

>>388009195
not useless, just inconsistent
her emp is broken, yes, hacking packs is also very good, but she's not as good as having a reliable dps pick

say the name of at least 2 people who have a decent win rate with her and play above masters
common mistake you guys make is think that just because you're a god whatever in diamond matches or quick play, that hero is the best pick in the roster in your minds

>>388010097
you are right

roadhog doesn't give the enemy extra ults, you should always use him

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>>388010239
>The International is the highest tension tournament in Dota 2 esports, and as such, teams need to keep their cool at all stages in order to maintain the edge over their opponents.
>In the end, 106 out of the 113 heroes available broke through the pick/ban phase. The heroes who did not make the cut were Bane, Lion, Meepo, Spectre, Tiny, Wraith King, and Techies.

If Dota can make 94% of the game's heroes playable, why can't Blizzurd?

>Junkrat is getting massive buff
>was already top tier
feels amazing man
Have people figured out that Junk counters the everliving shit out of Doomfist yet?

>>388010359
>roadhog doesn't give the enemy extra ults

Not any more than any other character, you absolute retard. Staying alive > dying to 'prevent enemy ults' every single time.

>>387998474
She's autistic. The OW community would be up in arms if she got downgraded.

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>>388010382
>Bane didn't make the cut

He'll just have to imagine the fire

>>387998474
>implying she needs a nerf
Hello silver

>>388010605
yeah its not like he has a big HP pool that even refills itself on top of an impossible to miss hitbox

>>388010382
>Oracle, brood and io
>Not dogshit tier
Literally 35% wr

>>388010359
The "extra ult" thing is reddit theorycraft meme shit. People aren't popping them off cooldown. Usually you have to wait for an opening to use it, or wait to combo with someone else. Whatever extra he may give over others (which is already small to begin with if you can aim) becomes negligible when you take this into account. Reminds me of the same dumb shit about "durr don't ever attack the enemy because u will charge the healer ults!!"

>>388010940
>miss a single shot as mccree when she's microwaving you
>die
>fair

>>387992304
*Sells account of shit game*

>>387998474
>>388010734
this. It'd be funny to see the sym mains get upset because they have to aim or something, but it'll never happen.

they should increase her gun ticks so she doesn't do 150 in 3 ticks and melt everyone

>>388010972
You mean like other tanks that get healed? You are fucking retarded lmao. What can you expect from an Overwatch drone who parrots everything he reads.

>>388011064
>Being caught as McCree by a symmetra
>Long enough to get microwaved
>far enough away from your team
>knowing there's a symmetra on the enemy team and not saving flashbang
Hello bronze

>>388011064
>mccree
>letting a symmetra of all character get close to you unnoticed
>can stun her
>can roll away

>>387992341
fpbp

>>388011278
you have shown me the light. roadhog is a fantastic character

only a drone would parrot usage stats

>>388011278
All the other tanks have ways to deflect damage without it counting to the ult meter and/or an escape. Roadhog just gains 300hp in achannel that he can do nothing but be a sitting duck.

>>388011418
>>388011457
>carry team as mccree
>rape genji and tracer with headshots, flashbang and roll
>attack symmetra approaches
>miss a single shot and die to the microwave oven
>lose point
>fair

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>>387994082
holy fuck

>>388004581
>it was proven long ago that the SR system looks at what hero you play and gives mercies for example more points
How "long ago" are we talking here? Because when competitive first came out the opposite was true and support heroes (and tanks to a lesser extent) got much less SR for victories than offense.

>>387998748
Valve way is still accurate, missing your swing will throw you off and make you vulnerable to reprisal.

>>388011576
>carrying team
>headshotting genjis and tracers
>still somehow manages to be caught by FUCKING SYMMETRA

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>>388010382
BLIZZARD IS A TINY INDIE COMPANY THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES

>>388002985
The ability to do reliable damage and not have to hug your target

>>388010447
>was already top tier
he had literally 0% pickrate, are you just shitposting?

>>388011560
And all of them have some sort of limitation while deflecting the damage and they can't self heal. Roadhog is the only one that has a fast-charging ability to reel an enemy in for an instant pick, being an offensive tank.

But that's all besides the point. The fact still remains that staying alive is better than dying and if you think Roadhog is an ult battery, then so is every other character because they can all be healed in one way or another, which makes your entire argument absolutely retarded. Stop being a parrot and think for yourselves for once in your pathetic lives.

>>387994820
Health means nothing in Overwatch. Health is a tradeoff for mobility or ranged firepower. Roadhog has no mobility and can't do shit from range. He's a giant meatball and wasn't very good even in the meta when he was nerfed.

Granted, the dev team has shown a willingness to deal with heroes that are a pain to balance like with Lucio and reworked him to a place where he's still very good but not mandatory. But the anger over Hog comes from the fact that unlike with Lucio or D.Va Blizz didn't even bother giving Hog anything of value as a trade off for his damage being nerfed. It felt like they put a lot of thought and effort into other reworks but nearly none into Hog.

>>388012290
>lucio
>not mandatory

yeah his pickrate is only, what, 85% now? lol

>>387992689
Any CC ability stops that shit in addition to the 500 shields in the game. As someone who plays McCree, it feels like I flashbang 2 Edgelord ults per game.

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>>387992443

>Game designed so you can swap heroes on the fly
>But you get punished if you don't adhere to the 2-2-2 meta and go off the rails picking your character

The biggest problem with this game in a PvP setting is that it encourages free picking but also demands a specific composition to push objectives/win.

>>388009827

MMR systems are a complete fucking mess because their attempts to balance match making often make it less fair especially when they start accounting for parties and shit.

>>387994928

True, but you can't blame them for shilling their product.

If they honestly told a consumer that odds were they would never leave their MMR, they wouldn't want to play.

>>388012489
It's down from the 100% it was at before. Nearly every game in season 3 was Ana Lucio healing with little variation.

>>387997856
>The Blizzard way
Nerf an uninvolved third party into uselessness, tweak the OP character's most complained about move and buff them in three other areas
>The Valve way
Slip into a coma for three months, then make a patch that changes something entirely unrelated
>The Riot way
Remove all unique playstyle aspects of the character and shove their kit into the same three scaling formulas, give them a dash if they didn't have one already

Fixed on all accounts.

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nerfing roadhog was the last straw for me
fuck this game

>>388012489
100% in koth, 98% in offense, 87% in defense
not much of a difference

>>388002708

Here's how Riot deals with champions now

>Release champion
>If they are not assblastingly overpowered, give them buffs
>Wait until champion inevitably becomes a meta pick
>Decide on the most unfair/broken part of the champion and declare that as their "core identity"
>Nerf around that aspect for twenty or so patches
>Finally nerf the thing that made them too strong in the first place
>Pick rate plummets
>Make blog post about how "X has fundamentally broken design and is in line for a rework in the future"
>Repeat for eternity

>>387994082
>>387995613
Are you fucking with me? lmao is this why I dropped 800-1k MMR for no reason? Glad I stopped giving a shit about this game.

>>388009827
>>388012827
MMR has no place in team games, that's the problem. The problem becomes worse when you allow parties of any size to go into the queue with solo players.

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*forces esports scene*

>>388010382
Let me break it down for you.

>Blizzard
>Good balancing
Pick 1

>>388013724

>People swore up and down that Reinhardt was the immovable king of the meta
>Now picked less than 10% of the time
>TEN heroes that have 0% pickrates, four of which were never picked at all

Blizzard.

>>388011000
>Pub winrates matter
Team liquid, winners of the international won with broodmother to the point that other teams started banning her out of fear
Oracle was one of the most popular supports at Ti
You're fucking retarded

>>388013463
Yep. These matchmaking systems have always been setup to keep you playing to pimp out microtransactions. Did you really think assigning a skill value to one player who was only 1/6 the outcome of the match would be accurate in any reasonable amount of time, while considering a handful of other variables that at the end of the day are random?

It's funny, they're even trying to twist these new jewish tricks into being beneficial for the player and being completely blatant about it, yet people still eat it up because neo gamers are in love with artificial progress.

>Doomfist punches a wall next to me
>Get one shot

>>388014035
the bastion incident was the most laughable thing blizzard ever did
>bastion is utterly useless
>rework him and put him on the PTR
>players tell blizzard he's fucking broken and to not release it
>blizzard says "they know better" and release him
>he's completely broken and a 100% pick
>blizzard nerfs him after a month
>he's now uterly useless again
nu-blizzard literally can't do anything right

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>>388014187
that brood rat dota was some of the finest rat dota i've ever seen.

>>387993712
My nigga

>>388013724
>we'd rather not force a meta
>nerfs rein and gives winston massive buffs
>go on the forums and lie, saying he wasn't buffed, his pickrate totally went up for zero reason, trust me goyim
Literally one of the scummiest companies. My favorite part is all the drones who go
>uhh uhh well they talk to us a lot while most other companies don't interact
most companies don't need to interact, they listen and make proper balance changes instead of being retarded, making stupid balance changes and spouting useless corporate bullshit on the forums
fuck blizzard

>>387992304

I bought this game thinking it would fill in that place in my heart that TF2 has occupied for so long, but it couldn't,

>>388014758
i thought the same. now i'm back playing tf2 and my sister is playing overwatch.

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>most of the characters are unusable
>just a few top rank characters are playable
>duh let's add more characters to our roster duhhhhhhhh

Should really balance your game before you start adding more characters and fuck it up even more. Billion dollar company can't even balance a game in a year wow. Should have thought up your characters better instead of just throw whatever shit together and see if it works.

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>>388014883
they can throw all the money they want at overwatch they still won't have icefrog

>>388014842

TF2 isn't the same. No game has yet to fill in that void for me.

>>388014354
YOU THINK YOU WANT IT, BUT YOU DON'T

>>388014883
This is some of the most retarded logic I've ever seen.
Adding more heroes and more content is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS a good thing. Because it has the potential to shake up the meta by introducing new kits into the game.
If you actually think the stop and balance method works than please get off your computer and go check yourself into nearest mental asylum you deranged retard.

>>388014946
it doesn't take icefrog to make a properly balanced game, it just takes someone who isn't a literal drooling retard. But you know blizzard, they hire based on nepotism rather than skill or talent, which is why they've done nothing but get worse over the years

>>387998474
Hahahahahaha how the fuck is Symmetra a problem hahahahaha nigga just pick Winston like nigga just hold LMB haha

>>388015093
OH YAY more unusable characters thanks for wasting your resources on this instead of making existing characters usable. I love having every match up the same. Retards fall for more characters.
>WOW LOOK AT ALL OF THEM
a more nuanced mind looks for amount of playable characters
>wow not that many of them

>they only rolled out the Hog nerf when Doomnigger was announced
>Old Hog would have oneshot Doomnigger, new Hog doesn't
Really makes my almonds activate

>>388015608
orisa showed that blizzard is out of ideas.

>>388015608
or they could be like doomfist and be pretty strong, you never know what happens. please kill yourself you retard, more content is always better.
if you add more heroes you can add hero combos which can bring other less viable heroes into the meta
stop being retarded for one whole second

>>388014035
Rein's one weakness is how useless he is in dive meta, which is currently in full swing and won't get any better with doom existing now.

>>388014883
>overwatch at release
>huh this game can actually be really good in a year or so when its refined and gets more content
>a year later
>4 new useless heroes
>3 new terrible maps nobody likes
>ZERO absolutely ZERO balancing changes to existing maps
>overall hero balance is ten times worse than on release
>the only patches the game gets are new limited skins every month
>rabid fanbase is literally retarded and defends nu-blizzard at every turn disregarding all logic and reason when you bring any of these issues up
Fuck Blizzard. Never again.

I like how everyone in this thread pretends to use meta speak and act like they're all in Grand master rank.

If I can still get kills with. Roadhog, then maybe y'all should stop crying about having to be more strategic with him instead of acting like the one man army that can single handleliy 1v6 the enemy team

Also, to the Dva mains who still bitch about the swapped armor/health changes. You can suck my hog for all I care .

>>388015912
>>ZERO absolutely ZERO balancing changes to existing maps
this blows my mind. it's like they don't have any map designers there.

>>388015972
>more strategic with him

yes I strategically use another hero who are far superior

there are many

>>388010098
these would actually mean something more than jack shit if tourneys had random maps.

>>388015996
they didn't even attempt to fix hanamura and even the asslicking retards at reddit agree it's completely broken. How is that possible?

>>388015710
>Sombra is literally just Spy with overemphasis on nullifying abilities and no surgical strike power
>Ana is just Syndey Sleeper/Jarate loadout sniper
>Doomfist is literally just Vi from League of Legends

They didn't have any ideas at the concept phase.

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>>387992341
We are DONE, kids.

>>388016247

What's wrong with Hanamura?

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>>388016416

>>387996797
It's weird, people haven't asked for a buff to Dva since release and they've done almost nothing but buff her without anyone asking her

>>387992304
Why is Kaplan so likable compared to other white devs?

>>388016526

The same thing that's wrong with other 2 CP maps.

>Terrible spawn locations
>Highly uncompetitive first point
>Enemy team either snowballs point 2 with ult advantage and wins in under a minute or gets stalled out to overtime because now their spawn is the shitty one

>>387992304
He's only bowing to the loudest fans, you know.

>>388016579
>tfw this whole time thought it was Metzen who was the problem with shitty writing
>tfw he was actually the last bastion of hope holding the tidal wave of absolute garbage
Tragic

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>>387992304
>these fuckers think they know pain

>>388016674
but hes not hes clearly a nu-male that only has like 2 hours in the game hes supposed to be directing and it shows

>>388013369
You forgot
>Rework Ryze
somewhere in there.