> There's people who like DQ

>>387945745
III isn't crap, IX is though.
I don't see why one shit game makes the other ten shit as well.

IX is a great little game

>>387945745

I get not liking IX, but III's pretty great. What gets me is when people compliment the localizations.

whats the best DQ soundtrack?

>>387945745
DQ9 is good fuck you OP, best JRPG on NDS after Chrono Trigger.

>>387946590
>>387946632

>IX
>III
>Great
The story sucks and there's no party members.

>>387946594
Hard to choose. Not a single mainline game with bad music.

Easier to choose like this, which game has your favorite

>battle theme
>Rendition of the main theme
>Overworld theme
>Dungeon theme
>Castle theme
>Town theme
>Final boss theme
>Sad theme
>casino theme

>>387947250

>Playing RPGs for the story.

I did that 15 years ago, but these days that rarely happens. I play games primarily for the gameplay.

>>387947250
>Too stupid to roleplay and make your own party members
>game must be bad

>>387947496
>play games primarily for the gameplay

You should be playing SMT instead of DQ

>>387948009

I played a shitload of SMT last year.

>>387947783
Why the fuck i would want to roleplay?
If i want to RP i go to the forums, i dont buy a game for RP.
Worst excuse ever.

>>387947496
>Playing RPGs for the gameplay
What the heck

>>387945745
III is the best one though, and IX is great too.
Go back to playing Final Fantasy.

>>387948164

>What the heck

That's what most people that started after the 80s/early 90s say. I don't blame people for it.

>>387945745
7 is worse.

>>387948096
>start a SMT
>cheesy, gay dialogue for 30 mins
>quit game and never even experience the gameplay

Is there any SMT game thats just gameplay and minimal dialogue?

>>387945745
The only arguably bad game was DQ1, because 70% of that game was pure grinding.

But 3 is considered a classic and 9 is pretty great, too, fuck you faggot

>>387948164
>Doesn't realise he's roleplaying every time he plays a rpg
>Coincident only likes rpgs where the game creates a preset for you
Getting dumber by the minute anon

>>387948595
Those games are shit, how can anyone enjoy those turns is beyond me.
>>387948387
Playing RPGs for the gameplay seems stupid to me, unless is something fun like DQ heroes.

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>>387945745

>you can't like a series with 40+ games when two of them aren't good
And even then, DQIII is one of the best ones so OP is, as usual, an idiot.

>>387948595

>The only arguably bad game was DQ1
Most people would argue II or VI are the 'bad' games. Dragon Quest 1 is like 6-8 hours long. You also have to compare a game to what was out at the time. Not comparing it to games made 30 years later. It's like those idiots who claim Zelda 1 sucks because there's no cutscenes like in Twilight Princess.

>>387948864
Not that anon, but you seem even dumber.
If someone doesn't like generic characters it's because he likes a memorable party over a lifeless party, don't trow the imagination stuff

>>387948958
It's called liking games with personality, the lifeless shitfest that is 3 it's just eurg.
If 9 didnt exist, 3 would have been better recived

its fun

>>387949159
People defending shit characters and lifeless party are blinded fanboys, dont take them seriously

If we're talking purely as an RPG, IX is my favorite DQ. It refines the battle system and mechanics of all the previous and makes something that feels modern and more interactive

The story is whatever, but aside from 5 and 7 the story is always whatever

>>387948407

Which one did you play? Sounds like one of the newer ones. SMT I and II let you get going pretty quickly, but unless you can read Nip, you're stuck with sub-par versions. SMT III: Nocturne is pretty good. Takes like, a half hour at most to get through the beginning, and then you're off to punching the shit out of demons.

I love dq9 just for it's stupid amount of content

>>387949503
DQ had always had a "whatever" story but it had a good cast of characters, 11 is the only DQ that has a really good story, i'd say

>>387948595
Honestly I love DQ1, it's particularly novel in its simplicity and I'm always impressed with how much it does with so little whenever I revisit it. It's extremely concise for an RPG, too.

IX is enjoyable. Probably one of the better more recent titles.

I'll take 1-7 any day, however.

I like 5 and 8. I'm trying to get into 7 but it just feels really bad to play it

>>387948595
To be fair to DQ1, it was a product of its time. And there's a ton of things and other story bits not even covered in the game itself which is kinda disappointing. The manga and the various other sources added quite a bit of depth to the world.

>>387950131
How the fuck do I even play 11?

>>387950445

Import (or pirate the 3DS version) and play it. Or wait for the English release if you can't read Nip.

>>387949159
>don't trow the imagination stuff
It's fact. People who enjoy those games are able to make memorable party members with the presets given. The one's who don't have an inherent lack of imagination and prefer their party members to be chosen for them.

>>387950338
Try playing DQ7 on the PS1. That is a punishing experience, especially the grinding.

>>387949313

>It's called liking games with personality
Dragon Quest III has some of the biggest 'personality' in the series. Realize that the world, monsters, NPCs and everything else set the personality of DQ games. Not the main characters. Just like in a game such as Chrono Trigger or Zelda.

This is also why Dragon Quest IX fell flat. It lacked the interesting NPCs and world. But DQIII had it.

>>387950512
I can sorta read nip (some kanji/all hiragana/all katakana) I search ciangel but dq11 or any jap release is not available is there something extra I have to do?

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>Tfw Dragon Quest IX was my favorite one
>Tfw just now finding out everyone hates it

This hurts
What are the good ones

>>387945745
9 is unironically the best DQ ever.

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>>387945745

>>387949434
Yep I sure love good morning crono hero from I-VIII. What a unique and compelling character.

>>387950445
>>387950760
https://nicoblog.org/nintendo-3ds-roms-list/ - Download rom, put onto 3DS SD card, install it with FBI.

>>387950776
8 is the most similar to 9 in mechanics
3 is the most similar to 9 in structure
5 is just a good one regardless

try them in that order

>>387950776
All of them are pretty good, up to 7. 8 is...meh. Dragon Warrior Monster series is pretty good too. Joker series is pretty good.

>>387950957

What's the difference between the normal and decrypted ROM? Been piratign 3DS games for two years and this is the first time I've seen such a distinction.

>>387950776
It's a minority trying to force their meme opinions.

III is dated but for the time it was a decent step forward for JRPGs.

IX is straight up a piece of shit. Most Dragon Quest games are straight up awful compared to their contemporaries which have more innovative battle or character building systems and try harder to have an interesting story.
There's probably legitimately hundreds of JRPGs that are worth playing before the Dragon Quest series.

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>>387951054
> 8 is...meh

>>387951054
I really hated Joker 1 but really liked Joker 2.

>>387951247
8 was very dull and changed the formula waaaaay too much.

>>387951259
Same. Joker 2 was far more enjoyable.

>>387951109
I'm not exactly sure. By installing the ROM through FBI, it's treated as if you downloaded it. However if you want, get the freEshop app and download it directly from the e-shop store for free.

>>387950776

All the DQ games are good. Its just that there are others which are even better than IX.

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DQ retains its influences from early Ultima and Wizardry games where the plot takes a backseat to the adventure, which is embodied by the player's actions. Most westerners don't get this because they got into JRPGs with modern Final Fantasy and other anime influenced series that focus on delivering plot through the games characters, removing layers of abstraction through detailed cutscenes and dialogue. This is also the reason why DQ is often criticized for being "grindy" when really the challenge is meant to facilitate player engagement. If you try approaching the games with a different mindset you may understand why so many people love this series.

I still get pissed when I think about the early to mid 2000s when any JRPG that had random battles and turn based battles would immediately get 6.5/10 or lower but shitty Dragon Quest games would still get high marks despite having those things even worse than most other games of the time.

>>387951754
Why fix what isn't broken? And to be fair, DQ1 launched against Final Fantasy and Legend of Zelda. It had to make its own print somehow, and in Japan, Dragon Quest is one of those games where NO ONE goes to school. When DQ7 was released, they closed several schools because no one showed up.

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>>387945745

Dragon Quest 9 was literally the best DS game ever made. Or its at least in the top 5.

I think a lot of hardcore DQ fans automatically had a fit when it catered to casual gamers as opposed to long time fans and RPG savvy nerds. But honestly it's an objectively great RPG as far as RPGs go. It has a huge world, a fantastic soundtrack, a stupidly huge amount of side quests, and a fully customisable party.

The lack of actual party characters feels bland at the beginning but honestly it becomes more of a blessing as you go through the game, and realise how fucking great it is to SEE the armour your hero wears.

>>387951958

>When DQ7 was released, they closed several schools because no one showed up.

Sounds like one of those DQ urban legends. For years and years they've made sure to release DQ on days that minimize school/work skippings.

>>387952081
This right here. I love DQ9 and I really want a remake since all the free DLC is gone since nintendo wifi was taken down. I really love the class system in DQ9. Best in any DQ game hands down.

>>387951754
The issue isn't that DQ has random battles, it's that players consider it a flaw in JRPGs because it inconveniences them and makes reaching the assumed 'next story event' more tedious. In reality, random battles are an effective way to make exploration a risk vs reward scenario and gives progress more value. This can be true of any RPG that uses them, not just DQ.

who the fuck doesn't like dragon quest? 9 isn't a masterpiece or anything but that series is a standout. unless you're not one of those people who lacks the patience for any and all turn based gameplay, it's like unambiguously the best big jrpg series.

i wish 9 had actual party members and party chat on top of that, but it's a pretty solid game regardless.

>>387952317

>it's that players consider it a flaw in JRPGs because it inconveniences them and makes reaching the assumed 'next story event' more tedious

That's not really it.Though I love a shitload of games with random battles, I have never, never liked random battles. Sometimes I want to look around a bit without being attacked every few steps.

>>387952526
>Sometimes I want to look around a bit without being attacked every few steps.
That's the point, though. The world is supposed to be adversarial and random counters enforce that.

>>387952081
Is that pic supposed to represent dq9's content? Because that's fairly accurate.

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>>387951958

>DQ1 launched against Final Fantasy and Legend of Zelda.
Final Fantasy 1 came out two months before Dragon Quest III did in Japan. Final Fantasy was made because Sakaguchi wanted to imitate its success.

>and in Japan, Dragon Quest is one of those games where NO ONE goes to school. When DQ7 was released, they closed several schools because no one showed up.
Urban folk tale that has been proven wrong many times. This was even referenced in the anime Azumanga Daioh, where the teacher complains about still having to go to school and waiting to get her copy.

>>387952081

I liked DQIX. But it did underwhelm me after coming off of Dragon Quest VIII. It totally ruined alchemy, the open world exploration was really toned down and the NPCs/story wasn't as interesting. It also isn't as fun to play outside of Japan, because you can't max the Inn or play with friends.

It was a good game. But it has the problem of being an underwhelming sequel to my favorite game of all time.

>>387951958
>>387952257
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest#Cultural_impact

No law was passed. But it did force Enix to release games on a weekend.

>>387945745
Do people who hate IX hate it because of its story? I liked it because I played through the entire game on local multiplayer with my brother back in the day, it was amazing. That, and the bosses and dungeons were more memorable than most of the other games

>>387952701
>It totally ruined alchemy
But the alchemy in DQ9 is the best in the series.

>>387952701
>Final Fantasy 1 came out two months before Dragon Quest III did in Japan. Final Fantasy was made because Sakaguchi wanted to imitate its success.

Point still stands. It's clear there was competition. The US version of Final Fantasy takes a stab at Dragon Warrior/Quest by having a tombstone read, "Here likes Erdrick."

I recall in one other Final Fantasy game another tombstone said, "Here lies Link."

>>387952526
My issue with random battles is that games never take into consideration the ammount of distance the character has traveled and instead only counts the number of steps. This makes no sense as you can walk around in circles and keep getting random battles for no reason. It punished people for even moving only a bit to get a better view behind a wall or over a hill

>>387952768
i think people that played ix in co-op will probably have a better time than those who don't because that's kind of how it's designed. it's meant to be a replacement for the party chat of the earlier entries.

>>387952893
Use Fairy Water or Holy Water.

>>387948407
Did you play IV or IV:A? Strange Journey was the last truly great SMT game, try Nocturne. Iv and especially IV:A's cast are hated by fans.

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>>387952263

>I love DQ9 and I really want a remake
It already got remade.

>>387952526

>Sometimes I want to look around a bit without being attacked every few steps.
Dragon Quest VIII has the best example of random battles in my opinion because it has the lowest random encounter rate of any game I've played. You can routinely go 30-40 steps without hitting a battle. I've run through entire levels of a dungeon without hitting a random battle (especially in Swordsman's Labyrinth and the Godbird Eyrie). Also the fact that there's a lot of skills in DQVIII which benefit from random battles like whistle, padfoot, divine intervention and zoom.

>>387952993
>It already got remade.
Fuck you. I really want DQ10 to come to the west. I know it'll never happen though.

>>387952626

And it's annoying as shit. I don't mind an adversarial world, I've played games without random encounters where it felt like the world wanted nothing more than for me to die, but they didn't piss me off when I was trying to have fun and explore. I do explore in games with random battles because I'm as autistic as the rest of you, but I sure don't have fun when the encounter rate is up the ass (though I think it's usually okay for DQ games).

>>387951754

When did Dragon Quest ever have random battles worse than Pokemon R/B or Final Fantasy IV? Which you have a battle every 1-2 steps.

>>387952701

How did IX ruin alchemy exactly? Having played Dragon Quest VIII, the alchemy process in IX remains basically the same from what I can tell, except you don't have to wait until the results have finished cooking.

>>387952710

>Explain why DQ games are released the way they are because the entire country is DQ crazy
>Gets linked to an article telling me about the cultural impact

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>>387952820

I definitely don't agree. Alchemy in DQIX is just adding tons of extra time sensitive ingredients to the mix. Some items you could only get off of wifi and others which would only spawn once a day/week. That's just tedious.

>>387952953

Then I feel like I'm cheating myself out of EXP and gold.

IX deserves a remake or a sequel for the switch with proper online

>>387953448
DQX is exactly that, but it will never be localized.

>>387953556
X's gamepaly looks like complete trash

>>387953735

So does IX. All that needless running around and slow attacking when the game is set turn based. In DQX, there's actually a purpose in it.

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>>387947783
>Too stupid to roleplay and make your own party members
>Tfw to serious about roleplay in IX
>Constantly trying to give them decent backstories
>Themed names
>Trying to make the character look interesting for there role
>might end up hating the way the character looks and have to start again
>Nice boy-girl ratio