FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT GENESIS IS SUPERIOR TO SNES

>>387897176
>he didn't have both growing up

>>387897176
1/10, made me reply

Music on Genesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR8Yx00TG9o
Music on SNES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bH3_0Qhewc&t

Snesfags btfo

>SNES needs extra hardware to do even basic effects the genesis was doing on raw hardware
BLAST PROCESSING IS REAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0YkMU5nkgE

>>387897176
>Castlevania Bloodlines is better than Super Castlevania 4
>Aladdin on Genesis is better than Aladdin on SNES
Won't dispute the other head-to-heads, but this is nonsense.

>>387898186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMIjllg47Hg&list=PLBEBF5716A58D8AAE&index=5

No question Genesis had bomb ass music, that sound chip fucking ruled.

>>387898605
aladdin is bad on genesis because its made by western developers.

>>387898771
m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTQIiIKummw

I agree with all but castlevania and mario. Sonic is trash and bloodlines is real bad, hell both super castlevania and bloodlines suck dick. Rondo of blood/dracula X is where it's at. Actually you know what. Turbografx 16 > genesis, suck it faggots.

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>>387898186
>he doesn't post the Donkey Kong soundtrack
>he doesn't post Chrono Trigger soundtrack

>>387899093
they both sound like they're coming from a tin can

>>387899093
snes still wins

>>387897176
>Sonic is better than Mario
Debatable. I prefer Mario by a bit.
>Ristar is better than Kirby
But not better than Super Star

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>>387897176
>>Aladdin on Genesis is better than Aladdin on SNES

>>387898186
>SNES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gskDcG7WLNs
>Genesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGdcVxzc9Sk
Genesisfags will never ever recover.

Nigga I know you're playing, but fuck you Yoshi's Island's ost is fucking god tier, Genesis can't even compete.

>>387897256

>Being one of the few kids in your school with both

Man it was great having decently wealthy parents growing up

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Most of these are wrong and obviously single-console owner plebeian opinion, but this one gets me:
>Aladdin on Genesis is better than Aladdin on SNES
LOL; no. Not with these hitboxes.

>>387899698
Does your system have this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC-B3Q0cRrY

>>387897176
wew lad: the post

>>387899698
Snes
https://youtu.be/NRnwoalthsw
MD
https://youtu.be/eRnCyiTBgaQ

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>>387898186
>that
>doing the Genesis justice
yeah it's good but

https://youtu.be/tQbitmR_YBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkMXOWFgB5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLDBwMusg4o

The SNES soundchip and its sampling bullshit is the exact same concept as Donkey Kong Country -- mediocre game sold on its 'realism' instead of how good it actually was or looked. In reality, everything looks and sounds muddied, because the SNES was basically the worse console. It doesn't matter at all what your specs are, it matters how you use them.

The Genesis was capable of a much better sounding, wider variety of sounds and music than the SNES despite all the sampling capabilities it had. I'm not going to say there aren't good sounding games on the SNES, or good games in general, because there are, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with liking it, but I feel like in the long run the Genesis had the better sound chip, because even to this day it's timeless, with people still making music for it. People who sample music just make shit in FL Studio or the tracker of their choice, very few people, like the super hardcore SNES fetishists do anything within the limits of the SNES anymore for recreational purposes (excluding romhacks of games because no shit those are going to obey the limits of the hardware, which is why I don't count Genesis romhack music either)

>>387900893
>all that text with butthurt over 30 year old console wars

Just let it go man, if you didn't own both SNES and Genesis growing up (that is, if you were even alive back then), you just missed out and only had half a childhood.
If you're an emulatorkid and still pertake in console wars, then you've got no remedy. End your life asap because you're not enjoying it.

>>387900893
I like some covers using the MD soundchip like
https://youtu.be/DsTNBRNa10Q
However I there are few ones that respects the system limitations.

>>387901020
>being so mad that genesis did and still does what nintendon't that you dismiss any arguments made against it

l m a o ing at ur life kid

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>>387899698
Maximum Carnage is one of those games that clearly showed off the developer was more skilled at one system than the other. If you want an example that shows off the same but with the systems flipped, listen to Thunder Force 3 vs Thunder Spirits.

SNES: https://youtu.be/CKblRUmbKMI

MD: https://youtu.be/rBnLUqJvRD0?t=1468

>>387901020

Expanding on a point and explaining ones stance isn't butthurt. If he were yelling and shitting on people for liking the SNES, then I'd agree with you. But he's not.

>>387900893
I dunno, I think both DKC and thunder force IV have great, timeless soundtracks.
You seem a bit biased.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOagvSmosBg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brUFB5z1i7E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WKKH6OAyS8

The only Gauntlet with satisfying RPG mode

>>387901020
Not him, but, bro, do you even know what thread you're in? It's specifically to talk about why one or the other was better.

This shit is so far in the past that it's not console war bullshit, as much as it is actually arguing the benefits of each, which people have been doing a stand-up job posting examples.

>>387901338
I owned both systems back then, I love the genesis.
I think both systems have their own pros and cons.
>Expanding on a point and explaining ones stance isn't butthurt
I dunno, he seems extremely biased for the Genesis and against the SNES. Especially with all that "mediocre game", "worse console" etc comments. Extremely biased and subjective.

By the way, Thunder Spirits on SNES wasn't developed by TecnoSoft. It was an outsourced port.

>>387901317
The YM2612 was absolutely fantastic for atmospheric tracks, something the SNES could never really nail down.

https://youtu.be/2W4yTL-9gZE

Here's a video about sample quality, which was part of what SNES fags tried to hold against the Genesis, despite their precious meme console sounding like muddy shitbutt.

Not sure how anybody can argue that genesis games have better music when literally the best soundtracks of all time come from snes games.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDZ2W0GpP_E
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73n7HTcmb5g
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmbqeMTfoXs
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlUeW7IOSFc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjwhX0WqxXQ
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4H2t5WhDFA
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BStjuHfP238
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hHpSlEz73k
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAPpVplHiDE

>>387901620
>>387901645

>they didn't own both consoles growing up

Sad!
Why didn't your parents love you, anons?
>implying you were even alive back then

>>387901464
>as much as it is actually arguing the benefits of each

It's all subjective appreciations on sounds.
And yes, it's console wars, anon. Even if old.

>>387901367
I disagree, the melodies of DKC are fantastic, however I feel like the low sample quality holds them back significantly. There's remixes on youtube that make the songs sound a lot better because they use better samples.

>>387901549
Except DKC was a mediocre game, it was incredibly stiff and clunky, whereas the later games, like Tropical Freeze for example, are actually incredibly solid and fun to play. A lot of games from that era -- Genesis and SNES both -- show their age like fuck today, where as some games like Thunder Force IV, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario World, and so on hold up even today.

>people think the Genesis had good music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHK1kM6VUlE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw8sz-1PDKg

Not everyone doing music for sega genesis was Yuzo Koshiro
And not everyone doing music for SNES was Nobuo Uematsu.
Both systems can provide with their own characteristic sound. Both can sound like heaven, and both can sound like shit.

>>387901913
>holds them back significantly
I don't think so, I still listen to the originals and they're fine. They were made with the low bitrate in mind.
There's many SNES games that sound muffled and really lo-fi. DKC is not one of them.
>Except DKC was a mediocre game, it was incredibly stiff and clunky
Disagree completely.
I also disagree about games "aging", they are still the same ones as they were back then. They are either good or bad, and they always were the same. If you personally don't like DKC, that's fine, but it's just your own subjective opinion.

>>387901645
https://youtu.be/M6Sgk4t_FAE?t=1395
https://youtu.be/S5RiwtCX14k?t=61
https://youtu.be/uzPOwwNSOQM?t=1781
https://youtu.be/70DLsXjGE4I?t=114
https://youtu.be/5UxkeFCAQhI?t=135
https://youtu.be/TnkXMZk_4_4?t=872
https://youtu.be/LPHQLPGpn7Q
https://youtu.be/IqxUe27KFyk?t=35

Depends on what kind of music you like. The MD was incredibly crisp and fantastic at just about everything except for orchestral music, which can be done, but FM synthesis isn't exactly suited to it. The only person I've seen pull it off well is Hitoshi Sakimoto because they programmed a solid orchestra voice patch. It's basically two 2-OP instruments put together, one playing at the specified octave and one playing a fifth (or was it a third?) above, and then played back on 3 channels with a detuning effect.

>>387902184
No, when people talk about a game aging, they aren't saying it magically somehow gets worse over time. A game is the same it was then as it is now.

Age is a comparison with other games today, which is to say, a game will show it's age when mechanics in it have been done better by other games, either sequels, or other franchises entirely. Guilty Gear 1 on PSX, for example, shows it's age despite still being a solid game, because other, later games, like GGXX, GGXXAC, and even GGXrd have taken its mechanics and done them better.

Like I said, it's not to say at all that the game magically got worse, it's to say following games have gone better.

>>387901878
I don't think there's anything subjective about how superior the sound chip on the Genesis was, and the amazing work you could do with it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aFoQrr0AcE
Jesper fucking Kyd, man

I loved my SNES as a kid growing up, but very little compares to this, or the great shit on S3&K, etc.

>>387902408
I understand, but be aware using the word "aging" in this case is wrong, "dated" would be more appropiate, i know, it's just semantics, but somehow the whole "aging" thing has gotten really popular as of late... at this point it might not even matter anymore, but yeah be aware, it's semantically wrong.
And on that subject, I dunno, I don't think many games did what DKC did better. DKC came out at the time that was the peak of 2D platformers.
I could understand you saying games like Pitfall or Pac-Land are outdated, compared to later platformers. But DKC? It can perfectly compete with new platformers coming out today. It's okay to prefer Tropical Freeze or whatever, but I don't find anything about DKC1 to be clunky or stiff, at all. In fact I think the game has a great flow.
Also, sometimes stiff movement is on purpose and not a flaw, for example in Castlevania games (classic ones).

>>387902632
I gotta' post one more JK track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y439WG0u8I

>>387902632
The subjectiveness comes from the fact they're completely different kind of technologies.
And both are old as fuck.
And both can sound amazing or disastreous.
Stop being a fanboy and a console warrior.

Any Mega Drive game with shamisen/koto instruments?
Something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_bbkof75fw

>>387902893
>Nothing can be debated because everything's subjective!
>You're not allowed to scrutinize or engage in any argumentation because I say so!
Quit trying to be so milquetoast. It's okay to discuss things and take a side.

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>>387898186
>Genesis soundfonts
>Pleasurable to listen to and even comparable to even the worst DKC tracks

>>387903168
>It's okay to discuss things and take a side.
I agree about discussing things being okay.
Taking a side I dunno, it always leads to bias and therefore insincere discussion. It's like political fanatism.

>>387903382
>taking a side always leads to bias and therefore insincere discussion
have you ever been in a debate in your life

>>387903382
I get that you want to avoid unnecessary conflict, but conversational debate is totally normal.
You can't never pick a side, and people shouldn't feel like they can't discuss their preference or share that with others just because they're afraid of starting a fight or causing controversy.

If you like both equally, that's fine, but you can't tell others that they can't prefer one over the other. It's worse than what you're trying to prevent.

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>>387897176
>Contra Hard Corps is better than Contra 3
>Castlevania Bloodlines is better than Super Castlevania 4
already you're wrong.

>Phantasy Star is better than Final Fantasy
low hanging fruit
chrono trigger, metroid, ghouls and ghosts, donkey kong, demon's crest.
there are tons of great games on the snes.

then there's the add ons
genesis need the 32x and sega cd just to keep it afloat when the snes came out with better hardware and it was still shit even with it.
all the snes need was a super game boy and it made a great thing amazing

then there's the hardware.
https://www.gamespot.com/forums/games-discussion-1000000/which-was-more-powerful-the-snes-or-the-genesis-26801141/

>>387903559
have you? you can debate without necessarily taking a side. For example calling out both genesis and snes fanboys in their bullshit.

>>387903761
>but you can't tell others that they can't prefer one over the other. It's worse than what you're trying to prevent.
I'm not saying you can't prefer one or the other though. I mostly replied to comments that were overly condescending, aka biased.

>>387903761
I knew a guy like this once actually. Any time someone would talk about shit like game design or something, he'd come in and argue that none the discussion about what works or doesn't work mattered because in the end people would like whatever they wanted, which, while on one hand he has a point that people will like whatever appeals to them, that doesn't mean discussion is immediately pointless or without any value. Games have evolved a lot in the years, and it wouldn't have happened without these very discussions.

The same principle applies here. There's nothing wrong with any discussion about what the chips are capable of and what they aren't; what's better at what and what isn't.

Posts like this, however, >>387903993 basically write off any snarky, bantery replies that discuss the points of both chips and what they were capable of, and comparisons between the two as just fanboy stuff.

>>387897176
>Ristar is better than Kirby
Only one I disagree with.

Also Vectorman>Megaman

>>387901620
>the YM2612 was absolutely fantastic for atmospheric tracks, something the SNES could never really nail down.
wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq03nO62NH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAluV5w_-jI

Also stop cherrypicking, Snes is capable of good quality music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbWxBwTLGQs&list=PL39577E20E536C854&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9jd4k8n6W8&index=12&list=PL39577E20E536C854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPVU4jwkFHM&index=13&list=PL39577E20E536C854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ipa94sLlQ&index=15&list=PL39577E20E536C854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct3qfNcv9-s&index=18&list=PL39577E20E536C854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4hkGd8x-6o&index=19&list=PL39577E20E536C854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0jAfZAWzsU&index=23&list=PL39577E20E536C854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_51w2HF2feA&index=26&list=PL39577E20E536C854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNXgtQ2-GBk&index=32&list=PL39577E20E536C854

>>387898186
Wow I didn't realize how much better the GBA version of Yoshi's Island sounded. What the fuck is that high pitched noise that comes in?

>>387904213
>and comparisons between the two as just fanboy stuff.
And that is correct, most of these are cherrypicked bait and don't really add.

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>>387897176

You forgot the most important one

>Shining Force is tons better than Fire Emblem

>>387898186
has no one noticed that he posted the fuzzies, the intentionally shitty version

>>387901645
>No Earthbound
>No Frog's Theme
>No Sara's Theme

Eh.

>>387904456
It's from you being retarded. >>387904558
You're the worst poster in this thread, at least everyone else is just pretending to be retarded.

>>387904770
shut the fuck up no you

>>387901620
>Savaged Regime
One of few people who truly understands the YM2612 chip.

>SNES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNmhv4ZYmiY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cAtfPd4O6E
>Genesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8Zt86MqnN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu-DY6Phm_0
Snesbabs are so cute. Although I have to admit, there is nothing like Chrono Trigger on Genesis. But at the same time there is nothing like Adventure Batman and Robin on SNES.

>>387897176
welp, have fun not playing chrono trigger i guess.

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>No mention of Shinobi

>>387905625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjaW4ZYzVHI
So good.

I agree.

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>>387897176
I agree whit most of the stuff you listed other than Final fantasy.
And i am pretty torn between Kirby and Ristar id say the games are about even.

Also while blast pressing was a meme its true that sega had a more powerful processor which allowed more sprites on screen than Snes.

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>>387905710

Thank you anon.

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>>387905461
The musk in Snes TMNT is closer to the arcade version even thou the Sega version is better.

I agree that sega had better music but only in games that ware made by people who knew how to acualy use the sound chip.
Overall Snes gad better music in most of its games.
Also snes had more original games whit amazing music.

Sega realy only excelled in games that have fast bombastic 90 kind of soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6aME3AXNIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iu2ZqRyF-k

When it came to more atmospheric games snes was ahead.
This is probably why snes had so many Fantasy themed games or slower paced platformers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKAc3nYEatw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-s-VQBoUdc

Sega give you hype.
Snes give you feels.

>>387901645
That Zelda and Mario music are overrated. There's a big difference between good and memorable music.

>>387897176
>Ristar better than anything
Ristar is a second rate Dynamite Heddy, and a third rate Ray Man

>>387907479
Dynamite Headdy is good as fuck though, and it has a fucking fantastic soundtrack too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IuoQpiDu3I

If it wasn't for the legnthy shmup stage Dynamite Headdy would be a 10/10 platformer.

>>387905461
The SNES just cannot do bass-y songs at all, it's odd. People love to shit on the Genesis soundchip but some songs work drastically better on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQrhmRX4PZU&index=1&

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dDo_HD-qJQ&index=10&

SNES version also just sounds too damn slow.