Upcoming games /v/ is trying to create a nihilistic hive mind

I don't really care, It's a day one pirate for me because I like boosting and being able to create a sonic waifu to boost is nice.

why are there two sonics
why do neither of them have blue arms
why is there a donut steel with the 4 fanny packs
why is there another metal sonic but just dumber looking
where's amy

>Mania is a confirmed flop
>Forces will be the game that saves Sonic
Feels good being a boostfag.

fuck off back to /sthg/ you autist this game will be hot garbage and you know it

Are you retarded? They didn't fix the physics and Sonic won't play close to Mania. Infinite looks dumb and the director is the terrible Lost World and 06 dream teams. It's not hivemind. It's creating a mountain of shit by Sega.

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>>387884706
>mania
>flop

>>387884319
Upcoming games Sega is trying to create a nihilistic hive mind so when it releases everyone will talk bad about it.

FTFY

>>387884706
Go home already Bizarro.

>>387884791
>Sonic Colors 2
>Bad
stop

>>387885015
generations 2 with oc donut steel maker, edgelord supreme character, vocal themes every other stage with cringy lyrics, none of the fixes people asked for from generations and DUDE WISPS LMAO

>>387885015
Sonic Colors was mediocre as fuck.

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>>387884319
Most people outside of children and aggressive fanboys seem in agreement that Forces will be mediocre at best. It doesn't help that Mania recently released either, further showing how uninteresting Forces looks.

>>387884706
>this much denial

>>387884319
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
https://youtu.be/8ToI7emaQgg

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>Implying Forces isn't completely in Mania's shadow at this point

>>387885656
DISGUSTING

WHERE'S THE MOMENTUM

>>387884319
I don't think you know what the word nihilistic means.

I don't think it's some forced hivemind shit either, thinking that Forces will be bad (or at least, worse than the other boost titles) seems like a pretty sensible opinion to hold based on the footage we've seen so far. This was a bad thread OP.

Here's a legitimate question. Why do modern sonic's stages have 2d segments if they brought back classic sonic? This annoyed me in colors and generations.

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>>387885656
>that music
>after mania's god-tier soundtrack
forces is FUCKED

>>387885656
>dude shitty dated synth sound samples lmao
Have these people never listened to any track from literally any sonic game released past 1994?

>>387885817
Because they are hacks that focus on gimmicky shit like the OC instead of improving the core 3D gameplay.

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>>387885656

>That level design

It's so fucking flat. It's just a straight shot path you can go up and down on sometimes, no drops, no ramps that shoot you straight up. This shitty engine is really showing its limits.

It's especially jarring considering sonic was founded on the idea of a character who could turn into a ball, momentum is essential for something like that, not just "going fast"

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>>387884706
>Mania is a confirmed flop

aaron i get it's your job to shill the series, but off the official social media can you let people be disappointed just this once. just ride the mania high

>>387884319
Holy shit, Sonic is so old tht his wrinkles are appearing.

>>387885656
This is what I'd expect from a one man team fan demo.

>>387885287
But muh ironic edge.

I still can't believe they made a Sonic OC as a literal character
I can't wait to see how much of a shit show this is going to create

>>387884319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyTzm8WgtlE
the 3d stage looks ok but you can't tell me the rest looks good.

>>387885817
Because making full 3D environments requires more effort. 3D environments suck since they dropped the Adventure physics anyway.

>>387884319
I'm a boostfag. Forces looks like trash. Instead of picking up from where Generations left off with the formula branching off, it goes all the way back to the garbage design mentality of Colors.

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>>387884706
>Mania is a confirmed flop
holy fuck, you're delusional

>>387886981
The game will get crucified and generate a fuckton of new memes about how shit 3D Sonic is.

>>387884319
Did anyone apart from autistic man children actually want to make their own furry?

>>387885656
>that giant like bar
Once again /v/ has been BTFO and Forces will be a great success now that they're finally moving away from the kiddy shit and making a serious story that actually matters again.

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>>387885656
>shit music
>never lets you get up enough speed
>0 momentum

>>387885204
>generations 2
Dude just look at the gameplay
I wish it had been Generations 2, instead we're getting Colors 2: Now With More Gimmicks and Even Worse Level Design

>>387887135
I remember seeing some design document like thing for Forces' creation and it showed the OC stuff being mostly for children. So they're banking on children for Forces more then anything aside from the DeviantArt crowd.

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>>387886142
Here's the kicker; that's genuine Genesis soundfont stuff at work, all of it. Technically the entire song was composed with samples or at least something theoretically possible from the Genesis hardware. The problem is with the composition, which sounds absolutely nothing like any Classic Sonic game whatsoever, it's a modern Lost World or Runners-style track in tinny 16-bit style.

And I also don't get why SEGA and Sonic Team have such a massive hard-on for the Sonic 1/2 drums, they pervaded Sonic 4 and they return with a vengeance here. They've almost entirely ignored Sonic 3&K's drums and instrument samples solely to cater to the 1/2 crowd.

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>>387887175
I've notice too

Honestly my only hope for this game would be that all the preview stuff they've been showing is super-early game stuff that is moreso meant to ease you into the mechanics. But I'm probably wrong, which saddens me. While we're at it
>Metal Sonic on the main poster for the game
Why him? Why not Shadow, or even Chaos?

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>>387886210
Pretty much this. Having 2D sections and "designated platforming sections" is basically an admission by Sonic Team that they don't know how to make boost mechanic more engaging beyond "jump occasionally" and dumb gimmicks. (This also applies to having Classic Sonic LITERALLY be the "Platforming Sonic" in one of Forces' trailers, and the shitty OC creator gimmick.)

It's almost like designing a game around purely going fast all the time doesn't lead to much depth gameplay-wise, and only makes designing stages more difficult because of how long they have to be. Any normal developer would look at that and go, "Oh, right. Yeah we should probably switch things around and make boosting more of a reward for skillful play." but since we're dealing with Sonic Team and Iizuka that'll never happen and they'll simply continue to band-aid the problem until people get totally sick of the boost, at which point they'll throw the baby out with the bath water and try something completely new that people will most likely hate. It's an endless fucking cycle with these people and it's astounding that they can't remove their heads from their asses and actually address the issue at hand. I strongly believe it's simply because no one will tell Iizuka no and Sega doesn't give a flying fuck as long as the game sells. Best case scenario is that they hire some fans to do a Classic styled 3D Sonic that shows there's a better way to approach the series in 3D which would force Sonic Team to adopt it into the Modern series. But don't fucking hold your breath on that one.

I wish I could be a brainlet that enjoys boost2win. I really do. Maybe then it wouldn't be so god damn disappointing to look at every new Modern Sonic game and I wouldn't be slapped in the face with everything they're doing wrong and how it could be easily fixed.

tl;dr fuck Iizuka and all of his Yes-Men they've been the cancer killing 3D Sonic for over a decade.

>>387887135
No but Sega is thinking "boost audience + classic audience + new/kids/degenerate audience = forces will sell gazillion". They are probably thinking that by cattering to everyone, they'll get more people to buy the game.

Did they even take a look at what Nintendo did with 3D World? Trying to bait the 2D Mario audience into buying 3D Mario only to have the whole thing blow up in their faces?

Try to please everyone and no one will be satisfied.

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Should have been called Sonic Cringe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6uqp_mr98

>>387885656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAtd6NBvVA0

music literally made me think of this

>>387887445
The boost thing worked really well in Rush games, it wasn't mindless, you had to be focused all the time on performing tricks which ended offering a very nervous and fast gaming experience. 3D boost is just shit.

>>387887538
>this edgy as fuck character, even more than fucking Shadow
>the fucking OC creator

Sega has embraced the cringe.

>>387887725
But muh ironic cringe.

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>>387887538
>infinite sounds exactly like like Soldier:76

>>387887725
well their american marketing team has at the very least

>>387887484
There is nothing wrong with 3D World

>>387887484
Holy shit, thank you. I thought you would be yet another dicksucker elevating the anti-3D platformer as something to be copied.

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>>387887484
Except people knew what they were getting into with 3D World, and that game never really advertised itself as basically being a mix of classic-style courses with 3D Land's gameplay improved. The consumers kind of had to know, given the niche, limited install base of the Wii U.

Sonic fills each game up with some sort of stupid new gimmick because Sonic Team is afraid of stagnating on sequels of the same formula and repeating '06, but simultaneously they don't have the budget, manpower and/or willingness to try to make an entire game around Boost or some sort of 3D gameplay. They fear shortness, a lack of replayability, and the old concerns of rentals squeezing everything out of a game easily / new concerns of Steam refunds. If you had Sonic Generations be nothing but Modern Sonic levels and bosses, it'd be like, less than 3 hours long.

Modern Sonic has no fucking consistency beyond the fact that everyone knows they're going to radically change something up or add some stupid extra gimmick / playstyle in for the sake of variety and wider appeal. And yet Forces is their way of trying to play it safe after Lost World's cataclysmic failure and simultaneously bait people back in with Classic, OCs, Infinite and so forth.

>>387887928
>that game never really advertised itself as basically being a mix of classic-style courses with 3D Land's gameplay improved.
that was meant to be "never really advertised itself as anything but", this is what happens when you stay up until 6 in the morning

>>387884319
You don't understand what the word nihilistic means.

I like both classic and boost Sonics, but classic Sonic in 3D games controls like shit and the 2D segments are lazily designed.

The OC is a meme took too far, like Knuckles and Knuckles, but at least that was just a joke extra mode

>>387884319
>trying

>>387887712
This. Getting a S rank in Leaf Storm was surprisingly hard the first time around.

>>387887712
that's because DIMPS had the balls to make a hard Sonic game and thus rewarding for players who master level design, when and when not to boost, and the trick system
and even then their games suffer a lot of cases where if you don't do a jump or a gimmick section just right, instant death for you

>>387884665
>why is there another metal sonic but just dumber looking
That's Tails wearing a mask.

>>387884319
>Upcoming games /v/ is trying to create a nihilistic hive mind so when it releases everyone will talk bad about it
What does nihilism have to do with people liking this game or not?

Generations was a fun game but I got tired and bored of it really quickly after I beat the game. Thank jesus fuck for mods otherwise that game would have lost it's charm ages ago for me when I played it. With the Adventure games I can go back to them at any time. They're pure kino.The newer games are just so dull and shallow and mediocre

>>387884319
After reading this thread op was right you faggots are just parroting each others opinions

>>387884319
Will mania be modable on the p.c.?

>>387886993
Come and buy a pixelizer! Seriously they needed to give sonic a communication device.

>>387884319

being nihilistic about sonic releases is a time honored tradition

>>387884319
but it is bad. even fucking autism mania is better

>>387888684
Well it's using a version of the Sonic CD engine so maybe?

>>387888414
Seriously?

>>387888513
I can't even finish a single campaign i the Adventure games, I think they're pure kuso

>>387888963
It's evil Tails from a different dimension where he had enough of Sonic's shit. That's why he's up top with the villains.

>>387884706
>Mania
>confirmed flop

I'm sorry, who confirmed this? People are sucking this games dick.

>>387887538
That ending was actually pretty badass. Save me bros, I want to buy it now.

>>387884319
>>387888735
Did you guys watch an episode of Rick and Morty/a lecture by Jordan Peterson and only just discover the word nihilist? You can't just throw it into every situation and hope it sticks. Learn what the word means first.

>>387889434
OP obviously got nihilistic and pessimistic mixed up.

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Have you decided who your fan character is going to be?

>>387889039
That's because you're a fucking pleb. Consider suicide

>>387889039
Sonic Adventure is very easy though.

>>387889712
Holy fuck I never thought about playing as Sonichu

>>387884319
It objectively looks worst than generations and even colors.

>>387884319
Dude.
Look at that fucking cover, like seriously. You can't make that shit up.
I usually try to be partial and optimistic about games I haven't played, but you seriously can't expect me to say "well, this game might be good" with that cover. Not even a literal saint would believe in the potential of such game.

>>387890038
Colors was better than generations tho.

>>387885656
>The only spikes are covered

>>387890083
You're right. I am a literal saint and I think it looks bad but only because fucking Classic Sonic is in a 3D title yet fucking again. This just shows that sonic team are not confident about their product.

>>387889712

Boobs the bat.

>>387887175
No shit this game will sell, it's the wettest dream from the average OC DA artist, aka 70% of the current Sonic fanbase

>>387890356
>Classic Sonic

I really hate how they tried to pander to nostalgic autists with that.

The "green eyes" controversy was so just ridiculous as the "blue arms" one. Only there were people legitimately bitching about it. I really think Sonic Team caved in and pandered to them because no other franchise is that autistic to care.

>>387890089
Wii toddlers, everyone.

>>387889918
I mean I can't stomach how bad the games are

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>>387884319
>/v/ is one person

Again with this absolute anal devastation. Show me where the bad anons hurt you anon.

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>>387884706
He's right though. Go out of /v/s echochamber, everyone is shitting on Mania. I was just playing it and got to Act 2 of Flying Battery, died and now I have play Act 1 yet again. Game fucking sucks and people arent having it

>>387892330
>Go out of /v/s echochamber, everyone is shitting on Mania

Literally every famous youtuber is sucking Mania's dick. What the fuck are you talking about?

>I was just playing it and got to Act 2 of Flying Battery, died and now I have play Act 1 yet again. Game fucking sucks and people arent having it

Git

>>387887538
Why do they still try to be badass and edgy?
They're colorful cartoon stylized animals with oversized feet and hands who run fast. They are not badass. They don't need to be badass to be appealing.

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>>387887538
>you can call me.... infinite
This shit is so fucking lame.

>>387892330
>Highest rated Sonic game in over a decade
>Majority of people on the big Sonic fan forums love it
>Every Youtuber is sucking Taxman's cock and fondling the balls too
>Thousands of people who haven't been interested in Sonic for years are picking it up
Boostfags can't be so delusional to think this is what failure looks like

>>387890460
This game cannot sell well by relying solely on the DA Sonic fanbase. The only way it can perform decently is by appealing to non Sonic fans.

>>387890446
Thre are no bat options.

>>387884319
Classic Sonic just doesn't look right in 3D.

>>387894030
Exactly.

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What will Forces score be?

>>387894030
Fucking dropped.

>>387894289
Low 7.

>>387892831
11 year olds (and furrys) love stuff like that.

>>387884319
>nihilistic
I don't think you know what that word means.

>game looks bad
>BAAAW WHY ARE YOU SO NIHLISTIC
I wish Reddit didn't infest this website. I want Moot back.

>>387894289
50-65

Boost gameplay isn't as exciting as it was in 2010 or w/e, the flash has subsided and people see a lot of the flaws now. The 2D gameplay doesn't play anywhere near as well as Sonic Mania.

On top of that the OC stuff will be panned for playing like shit, people will hate all the side characters and at least 5 reviews will mention how their constant dialogue during levels made them want to stop playing.

The conclusion will be something like "While Sonic Mania gave us a glimpse of just how good Sonic used to be, Sonic Forces is here to remind us just how far away his current incarnation is from those lofty heights."

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>>387884706
>Mania
>flop
okay you got me anon

>>387884319
>>387884706
>>387887175
>>387892330
Fuck off back to /sthg/.

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>>387892330
>I was just playing it and got to Act 2 of Flying Battery, died and now I have play Act 1 yet again.
god forbid

>>387884557
>>387884791
>>387885204
>>387885287
>>387887445
>>387887484
>>387887538
>>387890083
Fuck you.

All the so-called Sonic """fans""" turning their noses up at Forces as if Mania is the only good game since &Knuckles can get fucked.

Forces has a different appear to different Sonic fans. You have the immersive wish-fulfillment that the customization offers, and the tell-tale high speeds and setpeices and story drama of the modern games.

They even threw in Classic Sonic AGAIN for you fucks to have something to enjoy, but all they hear back is "muh physics" and "muh music".

There is something for every Sonic fan in Forces. And if you dont think theres anything you will enjoy in Forces, then surprise, you're not a Sonic fan.

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>franchise has been in a slump
>gameplay, art style, and music of upcoming game all look terrible
>"You all have a nihilistic hivemind!"

People with common sense figured out how to spot shitty Sonic games 15 years ago. Also, you guys were spouting "nihilistic" and "contrarian" when people said that Lost World and Boom looked like utter crap before they were released. Why should anyone be swayed by your namecalling now?

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>>387894940
>They even threw in Classic Sonic AGAIN for you fucks to have something to enjoy, but all they hear back is "muh physics" and "muh music".
Come on dude, the physics were like the main core mechanic that was vital to those games, don't try to simplify it as if it means nothing because you don't care for it. While I enjoyed Classic Sonic in Generations people have the right to shit on the Classic stages due to this alone.

>>387894940
Okay, Iizuka-san. I'm not a Sonic fan.

>>387894940
nice bait

but you're right, I'm not a sonic fan, the series has been shit forever and whenever they look like they're turning a corner, the autists screech and make them smash into a wall.

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>>387894940
>Forces has a different appear to different Sonic fans.
>appear
Hello Iizuka.

>>387895189

I think there's fault on both sides. It's Sega's fault for splitting the franchise apart so much by making drastic changes to gameplay constantly. I also just think they're incompetent developers.

>>387894940
Is this pasta? I'm pretty sure I saw this in /sthg/.

>>387895189
The autists haven't made them do anything since Shadow the Hedgehog, every failure since is entirely their fault.

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>>387892831
>They're not badass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCSL7naH-8A

>>387894940
>You're not a Sonic fan unless you'll indiscriminately shovel shit into your mouth just because it's Sonic™-branded shit
Love this mentality

For the record I like the Genesis games, I like the Adventures, I like Advances (bar 3) and I thought Colors and Generations were okay. My reasoning for passing on Forces isn't because it isn't classic - it's because I think it looks legitimately bad and unfocused.

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>>387895394
Oh shit, you're right >>>/vg/186777745

>>387884319
No?

It will be shit

>>387887538
>Chaos glitches when Infinite lands
>Zavok randomly in the background
>Shadow's eyes look lifeless and robotic

These three are fakers aren't they? Isn't there an enemy in Mania that could turn into older characters and mimic their abilities? maybe Infinite has that ability,too. I mean his song sings about Illusions