Ladies and Gentlemen, your brand new Overwatch DPS hero

>>387857273
What did they do to buff this already stupidly easy to play and universally useful character this time?

>>387857273
What they do to Dva that made her a competitive pick?

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>>387857365
Defense matrix up time cut in half

New Micro missiles

Firing and flying possible at the same time

>>387857273
That looks like effort. Something the devs and players want nothing to do with.

>>387857365
Defense Matrix Drains twice as fast, she can shoot while flying, and she has micromissiles now that have a small AoE, I don't know if the missiles are passive or an active ability.

>>387857491
>>387857537
This sounds fucking retarded.

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>>387857491
would you say this is a good or a bad thing?

>>>/vg/

you guys are as bad as ecelebshitters

Why are they so stupid? Keep the DM, give her the missiles, and buff her LMB cannon so it doesn't shoot peas.

>>387857537
How would the missiles be a passive? It'd be you hold E or something to charge and lock on to a target and then release to fire. Left click if you want to cancel.

>>387857607
obviously a bad thing. they're removing the only thing that made her a tank.

AN ACTUAL PHARAH COUNTER!!!!!!

>>387857682
Because Tanks aren't supposed to be top DPS. And it's hypocritical that they neuter Roadhog then give another tank this shit.

>>387857273
just make a new healer and a hero capable of healing in a large aoe (lucio) and is capable of tanking lots of damage and destroy's turrets in aoe.

>>387857682
You are fucking retarded.

>>387857838
t. jeff kaplan

>>387857491
that makes me want to actually try playing dva now, so good job to blizz

>>387857790
are you stupid? dva already counters pharah. this NERFS her ability to counter pharah.

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>>387857986
>dva already counters pharah

>>387858039
she does though

keep your plat opinions to yourself please

>>387858143
Why is this the eventual conclusion of every overwatch argument?
>I think x is the right decision
>No y is
>FUCK YOU SUB TOP 500 SHITTER.

>>387857790
I'm hoping Orisa's increased projectile speed might help with the Pharah problem too.

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>>387857790
>what is any dps you'd actually run
>>387858286
it's the fate of any game with mmr, and the shitty thing is there are diamond+ players with ~40% wr so it literally means nothing

>>387857790
>AN ACTUAL PHARAH COUNTER!!!!!!

A counter to the most hard counter and hard countered character in the game?
What are the odds?

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>>387857273
>Can't eat the entirety of a bunch of different Ults now

But I liked shitting on Q-to-winners.

>>387857790
Mate, d.va shits all over pharah. So does half of the characters if you play them right.

t. salty gm pharah main

>doomfist nerfed into uselessness

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>justice rains from above!
>good thing i brought an umbrella

>>387859284
Honestly Pharah is only ever a problem if she's being pocketed by mercy. Alone any Mcpee or Soldier can take her down

If they fuck up my literal main girl I'm out. I ain't about to play tracer and spookio full time

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What do they mean by this?

>>387859319
We can only hope.

>tfw the only tank I'm decent with is now a fucking squishy

>>387859702
Is that thing on the left the first ever game with rockets?

>>387859702
D.va was a Ruckus copy so it is normal that Blizzard copy him again.

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WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE NERFING MY WAIFU

>>387857790
Learn to aim faggot, it isn't hard

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>>387857273
That's a cute mech.

>it took them a year to fix defence matrix

these people are retarded. No wonder everyone is leaving their shit game

>>387859702
You're fucking retarded

>>387859478
It's not that simple. Not everyone can play the game with a mouse for EZ shooting

>>387862724
>fixing means making it useless now
More people are going to leave now that D.Va is offically shit tier.

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>>387857607
Depends how good the missles are really. D.va's biggest issue is her non-existent damage. Getting two damage buffs is pretty good. Just Defense Matrix was busted and a great ability. While it still is just not nearly as much.

To be fair her matrix is still going to be better than what it was at release. But now she is going to have damage with it too.

Going to be okay to great if you ask me. Great being able to kill to actually kill a Lucio.

>>387858431
Do you honest to god think wr is a meaningful stat? Is a guy with a 53% winrate in silver really better than a guy with a 47 in grandmaster? How can you misunderstand mathematics so boldly.

>keep matrix nerf
>add missiles
>return armor

Is she still viable?

>>387857491
What the fuck are they doing? She's supposed to be a tnak, don't reduce her defensive abilites for new offensive ones. She's fun enough to play as it is.

How stupid is that?

>>387857365
>easy to play
The skill ceiling on D.Va is actually incredibly high. You need really good judgment to use her skills effectively. Which is a thing most people don't have.

Do people still play overwatch?

>>387863130
I play on console and mcree and soldier work just fine to take down a pharah

>>387859702
Holy shit, I didn't even see the new Paladins patch notes. Kind of bummed that repulsor field got dropped.

>>387864380
It's where all the TF2 autists migrated to

>>387864505
I tried to but after like 5 months you can feel the content draught kick in hard even when They keep throwing arcade modes that only last a month rather than maps and chracters that last forever.

I heard they took a year to put lucio ball back but I already uninstalled overwatch so rip

They're finally balancing around the pro-level, where cuck matrix is universally despised. Based blizz.

Missiles and simultaneous flying and firing sounds fun too. D.va is now anti-air.

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>>387863154
Chill out bud. You can't make such definitive statements when nobody has even played this iteration of d.va. Everybody thought sombra would be OP when she launched.

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>>387863154
Not really. They just made her into the bullet hose she was obviously fucking meant to be.

You don't make a tank with both damage blocking and high mobility, AND give it full-auto fire with bottomless clip. That's completely overkill unless it does none of those things well, not even factoring in that she has 2 lives per spawn and doesn't even die when you kill the mech.

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>>387863476
DVa is the most consistently used tank among all levels, and right under Winston in high level play.

Her Defense Matrix is amazing as it is(was). There is nothing wrong with a tank that does its job of denying enemy damage, especially one that can trivialize a lot of ultimates.

Having something that can take on Pharah in the air like this is interesting since people have started figuring out how to synergize Doomfist and Pharah to devastating effect, with not even reliable Pharah counter Soldier 76 able to shut it down, but it involves doing something as dumb as having a tank try to fly up to hit a Pharah in a whole meta revolving around rapid surgical isolation and elimination.

That said, I don't know if it'll be a real shakeup since she's still the most mobile tank and you just have to be a little more judicious about the defense matrix. I can't really see anybody else taking her place barring another tank getting a huge buff to their defensive capabilities.

>>387864637
I still don't get why they make these shitty game modes that only last a month.

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>>387857273
She just got the same treatement as Ruckus in paladins. Fucking hilarious, whats wrong with both HiRez and Blizzard?
Nerfing good mech tanks and instead making them into dps.
>Ruckus, removing a team based ability that brought to your team around 30% damage reduction, and replaced it with rockets.
Then blizzard:
>D.va defense matrix cut in half and replaced it with rockets.
Fucking hell, will i ever be able to play a game where retarded game devs dont fucking nerf mech champions/heroes?

>>387858286
Because someone has to be absolutely terrible at the game to not know that Dva is the hardest counter to Pharah in the game.
You shouldn't be playing Pharah if the enemy team has a Dva. It's fucking riddiculous how hard Dva counters her, then you go on /v/ and you read a bunch of morons going ''hurr hurr you think Dva counters Pharah XDD????!?!?''

These people are either completely retarded or trolling.

As cool as missile launchers sound, this goes completely against her design as a tank and is basically a result of either fuckbots whining about Defense Matrix being fun police or Blizzard's seasonal "this hero is played too much let's make it shit" balancing.

Fuck Overwatch. I don't need it to masturbate to fanart of Hana Song.

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>>387864493
He's the only tank that can't protect people now. Poor fucker.

I just hope this cuts down on dive meta cancer.

>>387865243
It's one thing to block a Pharah Ult or kill off a junkrat spam or save supports from sniper fire. But when she can just delete Zarya and Mei ults, that's what I call utter Bullshit. The only thing in the game more broken than this is the hitbox of Genjis deflect that somehow protects THE ENTIRE front and sides. You can barely get his back

>>387857795
Roadhog was retarded as the one shotting shark. Doomfist is a much better fit for that role. Git gud.

All this DVa change does is make her the tanky Tracer style harrasser people preferred her as ages ago.

>>387865671
>As cool as missile launchers sound, this goes completely against her design as a tank

Full-auto shotguns and bottomless clip go against her design as a tank.

This actually sounds good because I won't have to spend all my time either having defense matrix up or melee rushing through shields in every fucking match.

>>387866027
They're never gonna fix Genji's deflect. Forcing people to actually think about how to use the deflect instead of relying on it as the pyro airblast for retards? 40% of the Overwatch playerbase is going to disappear overnight.

>>387866076
It wasn't anything but supporting fire.

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It's the classic conundrum of heavy tank characters in shooters and non-RPG titles:
>tanks should do their role of soaking up damage and protecting more fragile teammates
vs
>if tanks couldn't get kills nobody would play them

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>>387858431
I love how blizzdrones actually think their ranking system means anything

>>387866816

>Play Doomfist a grand total of 3 times
>Win 1 match, lose 2
>Check my win percentage
>57%

I'm pretty sure they just make these numbers up to make people feel better.

>>387866641
Reinhardt is perfect

Zarya is perfect

Winston is less perfect (idc what people say, his dps is just not reliable if you can't track high mobile characters and good luck killing anyone that's has a Symmetra shield buff or if they have an Ana in the enemy team)

Orisa is les perfect (needs some live in the spa department)

Dva and Roadhog are the main culprits of either being BS unkillable or BS killing machines as tanks.

>>387866937
Blizzard have never been good at mathmatical consistency. It's why they like to use so much randomness in everything they do. They're incapable of linear thinking

>>387866641
Well in this case it's because shitters kept bitching about defense matrix, so they had to figure out what to change in addition to nerfing defense matrix.

>>387866937
They have some retarded system that system that somehow calculates your win percentage per every 10 minutes, or it does it by rounds. There is no ''match winrate'' statistic.
You can win one match as a character and instead of getting 100% win percentage for winning 1 out of 1 games, you will get something like 70% or 60%.
They made it like this because you can switch heroes during the round. If you've played 10 different heroes during a match, which one gets the win percentage?

>>387857491

So now she's a tanky Soldier 76 only with a projectile shield instead of a heal. Lovely.

>Give D.va 100 extra HP for no reason
>People complain she's too hard to kill
>Instead of removing the 100 HP, remove her armor HP

B L I Z Z A R D

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Good hopefully DVA mains can finally kill fucking pharah fags. They're both cancer, but fuck Pharah.

>>387867402
>t. high silver

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>>387857491
>Nerf roadhog because he's too aggressive of a tank
>buff D'Va so she can be an aggressive tank
What the fuck are they doing? Why is the D'Va bias so strong?

>>387867594
Because roadhog is a hooker, and ain't nobody like hookers

>>387865765
Think its not out/rip yet. I can only find volume 1, look up bear hand on sadpanda

>>387865610
Except that isn't really countering Pharah. If we wanna say hard counter I think you mean 76. He tears through her.

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>>387867660
Well nobody likes D'Va and her bullshit yet here we are.

Maybe they should half Rein's shield and give him Winston's leap while they're at it

>>387866969
Orisa is an more active version of Rein, but I understand why she gets the hate. She goes down easy without fortify

the game balance is a fucking trainwreck
was playing the doomfist guy and would repeatedly full force punch dva and she'd just tank it, and kill me, even full forced punched dva like 3 times and she still was alive

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>>387867594
>nerf roadhog because "one hit kills bad :((("
>hanzo can still one hit kill
>make giganigga right after the nerf who can one hit kill more consistently and safely than roadhog ever could

>>387867840
God forbid tanks actually be good at surviving damage

>>387867840
WHAT?! A TANK TANKED DAMAGE? MY WORD.

>>387867840
Doomfist is a flanker, he goes in to kill an annoying squishy then runs away. Why are you even fuckign with Mech D.va?

>>387866049
thats the only thing that made roadhog roadhog. he had nothing to offer but 1 shotting squishies. they should of made an adjustment to his kit like this because hes really trash now

>>387867508
im low diamond

>>387868070
He should have a second gas-can ability that reduces his damage taken for a short time or something

>>387865610
She reduces her effectiveness. D.Va can't do shit to Pharah except use her DM to protect the team from damage.

>>387868070
I've just been using him in casual and he's still effective at allowing me to pull out squishes that I can kill or have the team help focus fire.

He's very effective for picking people off from a distance and buying time by taking damage.

I've had a better time killing flankers (that aren't reapers, they give me nightmares) off than I do even with my best tank in Reinhardt

>>387868070
He's still being used effectively. Semi ironically now as an actual punishment for people out of position. Pull him into your team. Your shotgun still hurts. You can't be uber leet le troll man wandering the field out of position yourself telling people you one shot to git gud anymore.

Stop crying.

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>>387867840
This isn't the Roadhog days. Doomfist requires actual thoughtful engagement. You're supposed to combo and punch them into walls and also be fighting alongside teammates. This isn't fucking Quake. That's why all the high profile Doomfist playbooks have him partnered up with someone like Pharah alongside the usual dive tanks to follow up on strikes and take out chunks of health.

Seems like you can take the player out of Genji, but you can't take the Genji out of the player.

>>387858330
yeah I am pretty excited about the Orisa buffs. faster projectile main fire, bigger shield

exciting times

>>387868269
a skill like that doesnt sound too bad.

>>387868456
>pull mcree whos at 150 and out of position
>lmb + melee take 130
>he rolls and the enemy team kills me in 2 seconds

ayyy hes so useful. pulling into your team doesnt matter if you're playing solo queue because no one ever works together. maybe if u fags knew how to position u wouldnt complain about him being so op

WHY CAN'T THEY GIVE ORISSA MORE ARMOR OR HEALTH ISN'T SHE SUPPOSTED TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP TO REINHEART?

>>387868917
Lower the cooldown on fortify and she's better than Rein.

>>387857273
>nerfing her only useful
>giving her a small boost of damage in the form of a rocket
>not changing her armor ratings or machine gun damage

YEAH GUYS SHE'S TOTALLY GOING TO BE GOOD

>>387857273
BLIZZARD SHES A TANK, NOT A DPS YOU RETARTDS

>>387868917
yeah I feel she should at least get a small 50 HP boost.

being one shot by Hanzo scatter arrows is fucking cancer

>>387857491
TimberWolf got jump jets now boyee.

>>387867295
no its more like shes 600 hp tracer with pharah ult bound to e
theres a good, GOOD reason shes not allowed to move full speed while firing currently, her guns are retarded and she never has to reload, allowing her to fire while flying is moronic

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>>387869034
>>387866258
>40% of the Overwatch playerbase is going to disappear overnight.

What happens when they nerf Hanzo's ability to just be bootleg McCree and force Hanzo players to be halfway competent at aiming?

>>387867594
Roadhog was never an aggressive tank, he was a frontliner that got a free kill every 8 seconds assuming the player wasn't brain dead. Dva and Winston have always been half-assed team divers.

>>387857273
>>387857491
>nerf pigguy because his tanky and offensive combo was cancerous
>buff another character to be just as cancerous on the same way

D.Va is so brain dead the shield was the only part of her that took skill. I doubt it will be able to stop a lot of Ultimates now.

>>387857491
>playerbase complaining about dive comp
>buff another dive character

>>387868917
because theyre obsessed with this idea of immobile castle defense where you just stack 6 people in a corner and spew damage while being completely untouchable, ie complete cancermode
its the same reason they overbuffed bastion and refuse to fix junkrats projectile speed, their "vision" for what these characters should be capable of is incompatible with how the game is actually played

and the thing about orisa v rein is that orisa is never going to win that fight for as long as she cant move while shooting, because while rein can pressure her and force her to waste her resources she isnt actually capable of chasing him down in any scenario, his shield hops move backward faster than she can move forward while shooting, so more health isnt going to fix that interaction its just gonna make her a pain in the ass to push into on like anubis last or nepal sanctum

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>>387869294
If they actually forced Hanzo players to:
>Manage their ammo
>Stop relying on scatter arrows
>Somehow make the arrow hitbox not fucking massive

Then I still wouldn't be able to find a way to keep playing it outside of event skins.
But knowing Blizzard they won't make any of those changes.

>>387867594

Roadhog is not a tank. At his peak, he was an anti-flanker dps who could spam down shields as well. Now he's just an ult battery.

>>387867874
Doomfist has to go into enemy territory to get that kill. He could also miss and would be in deep shit. With Roadhog you're just with your team pulling someone into your team while being 100% safe

>>387869436

the playerbase needs to dive into a volcano

>>387869567
>punch in
>uppercut
>turn 180 degrees
>slam back to your team
high-risk high-reward am i right fellas

>>387857491
>[Danger Zone intensifies]

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Orisa is perfection and defines what a tank should be: a hero that acts as an anchor for the entire team. if there is an Orisa with an actual team that sticks together, that team would be unstoppable. and with her buff, she will alone put an end to the dive meta.

>Shield to protect herself and all allies, that cools down faster than it is destroyed
>Ultimate that boosts all allies by 50%
>Grav that can pull enemies away from allies, also making them easy targets, and ALSO capable of easy enviro kills
>Fortify that makes her immovable, pissing on Mei, Junkrat, Doomfist, Reinhardt, Mccree, Lucio etc

>>387867914
>>387867935
>>387867979
no, niggers, i was behind dva, she just walked it off
entire point of doomfist is to do dmg, this is retard level balancing , like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtK9EvhqEIw

fuck blizzard so retarded sometimes,

DVA is just poorly made hero and they keep fucking doing retarded shit rather than reworking her from the ground up

>>387867874

>make giganigga right after the nerf who can one hit kill more consistently and safely than roadhog ever could

Roadhog was the safest character in the game for a long time. As stupid as balancedfist is, he's nowhere near as safe as a hog in ye olde 4 tank comp.

>>387857273
>>387857491
Good on blizzard. Dva was fine in terms of strength as it is, but shifting her gameplay from just spamming matrix all time and not doing much else into actually having a diverse playstyle is a good decision. I am happy for every barrier that gets nerfed in this game. I hope they change winston next.

>>387869660

Orisa is a shit ass tank who is the only tank in the game without a way to engage/start a team fight. This is why she has a 0% pickrate in the pro scene. She's shit outside of defending chokes.

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So, Roadhog mains.
Tell me what it's like playing the most braindead character besides Hanzo or Bastion.
What's it like?

>>387869739
"Lets make Winston bad again guise"

Nerf fucking rein already then we'll talk.

>>387869796
it's satisfying to build ultimate so fast that you can afford to throw it into corpses to tilt enemy team

>>387869820
But rein is already shitty

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>>387857778
>>387857795
>>387864375
>>387865431
>>387866969
>>387867295
>>387868990
>>387869558
Yeah, I remember all the WWII stories my grandpappy told me where all the tanks he fought had mile-long shields protecting the infantry and not bulky support for soldiers like they typically are

>>387869739
>Good on blizzard for removing a Tank ability from a a Tank and giving her more DPS!

>>387869776
>Doomfist main this upset

>>387869847
Yeah but shooting shields at chokepoints is ass. Made the game a slog for a while.

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>>387869846
>mfw enemy mei iceblocks alone with me and my ult is ready

>>387869903
It is, if you want to play Barrierwatch then fuck off back to season 3 which everyone hated.

>>387869920

>Implying Orisa is strong against Doomfist
>Implying she doesn't just stand there while he kills all the dps on her team

>>387869660
I only play casual, but whenever we need a real push to win the game, I just go Orisa and walk forward every 8 seconds to the next shield. Gravity blast and shoot into it every so often

>>387869938
Just go behind the enemy team and kill Rein, what are you, bronze?

I bet everyone that's salty about Hanzo are the same idiots whi pick Tracer and Genji and thought they didn't need to play it safe when going after a Hanzo that immediately aims a well placed scatter shot or even a CQ headshot and makes them BTFO.

Keep crying Genji mains. I'll always be smarter than your cheese deflecting ass

>>387868526
>That's why all the high profile Doomfist playbooks have him partnered up with someone like Pharah alongside the usual dive tanks to follow up on strikes and take out chunks of health.
reading this sentence gave me fucking cancer

>>387870121

>What is proper defensive positioning?

>>387869649
literally this every match. dont forget about his ult where you literally cant even hit or stun him

>>387870172
Excuses

>>387869851
>D.va can draw agro
>Don't shoot Dva
>Dva uses her piss DM
>over and recharging
>Oh look shes not being tank

>Dva can be evasive now
>Fuck huge hitbox flying slightly faster then walking speed.

>Stopping people from firing isnt a tank job.
>CC isnt a tank job
>Every other game with tanks give tanks a shit load of CC

This fucker is retarded

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Why is this game genuinely so unfun to play?

>>387869952
>Barrier watch season 3
>Dva
Its like you didn't even play during tank meta, she wasn't ever fucking used

>>387870152
>calls Deflecting cheese
>acting as if "well placed" Scatter arrow to the person's feet and watching as they disintegrate from the twelve train-size hitboxes ram into them simultaneously isn't just as cheesy.

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>>387870319
>Dva wasn't used during season 3

Are you retarded?

>>387870014
Orisa cucks Doomfist everytime.

>>387870291
Online games in general are not fun to play.

>>387870152
>I bet everyone that's salty about Hanzo are the same idiots whi pick Tracer and Genji and thought they didn't need to play it safe when going after a Hanzo

No, I am salty about Hanzo mains because you fucks keep appearing in my team and then proceed to do nothing at all for 20 minutes.

>>387870319

Barrier watch was:
>Rein
>Zarya
>Hog
>Dva
>Ana
>Lucio

Dva was a potential Ana boost target since she had high sustained dps.

>>387870291
>poor design decisions
>half-assed balancing resulting in extremely stagnant faceoffs where the same heroes are constantly used all the time up till the next balance patch
>reminds you of older, better designed games
But decorated with:
>is still a relatively popular and populated multiplayer title so one of your few options for multiplayer gaming besides the usual Valve stuff, early access-em-ups, or ghosttowns with multiplayer populations in the triple digits

>>387870382
She fucking wasn't you dougnut
It was filled with Zaraya, Rein, and Road
She was piss against that lineup and noone ever used her at the time.
Fuck she was barely touched until recently, she didnt need jack shit done to her

>>387870508
Good fucking joke, there was never a 4tank lineup unless your team was disabled.

>>387870589
Want to know how I know that you never reached master SR?

>>387870152
If I actually ran into good hanzos, I wouldn't complain. I can counter-snipe most of them with Mei, which is kind of pathetic.

>>387870454
>tfw hanzos are usually either less useful than vacant slots or frag out so hard they carry the team
>there is no middle ground

>>387870650
Want to know how I know you have self esteem issues and daddy problems?

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>>387870763
Whatever helps you sleep at night, plat Dva main.

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>>387870291
>Event skins
>They keep getting rid of the good arcade modes
>Matchmaking can have you team up with some of the worst people imaginable
>Generally speaking, you should learn one character from every group in case someone locks in your character
>There's always some shithead that picks Symettra on attack
>Before roadhog got nerfed, the game was genuinely frustrating to play unless you specifically counter-picked to target only him
>A good sombra or Ana can fuck up any opposing team composition
>In the off chance you run into a good Zenyatta & Widowmaker, you are absolutely fucked

>>387870945
Whatever helps you not cut yourself Silver shitter

>every defense hero in the game has been unplayable for over a year should we fix them?
>no go change D.Va again

I fucking hate blizzard

>introduce deathmatch
>map is close quarters
>literally use Junkrat to win

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>>387870945
>Playing overwatch competitively
>Taking videogames that seriously
>Getting so buttblasted about your mediocre fps on this Taiwan Soup forum

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>>387871031
I am master though, but again, whatever helps you sleep, plat Dva main.

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>>387857491
As a frequent D.va player, I don't like this. This sounds like Roadhog levels of broken and I do not want tierfags to instalock D.va every game whether they are good or bad, or start to consider D.va as "Reaper but better" and therefore a DPS hero.

I appreciate that they nerfed DM, but they may have went too far. DM lasts 4 seconds fully charged, meaning it's only 2 seconds now. DM can no longer block Rocket Barrage, Death Blossom or Tac Visor, making it a significant indirect buff to those heroes, who are already very solid picks in most levels of play.

Pretty much what I'm saying is, this cannot possibly go well whether you play as or against D.va.

>>387871145
>being proud about being shit at video games

>>387871153
>smug anime
>WHATEVER HELPS U SLEEP BRO
>TRUST ME IM MASTER
No one will miss you

>>387871175
>This sounds like Roadhog levels of broken and I do not want tierfags to instalock D.va every game

Considering Dva has been S tier in season 3, 4 and 5 there will hardly be any changes in that regard.

>>387871153
Not a single person in this thread are master

>>387871262
>>387871283
>salty plat rage
>projecting your shitty rank onto others

>>387871175
youre a moron

>>387857491
this is bullshit. defense matrix was perfect.

and to kill phara all you needed to do was tackle her down and shoot her to death

>>387857491
>making a tank less tanky and more like dps
Sasuga Blizzard

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>>387870291
The maps.
Jesus fucking christ why did they design EVERY fucking map (besides the 3v3 elimination) designed around chokepoints?

>>387870454
To be fair (same anon you're replying to) I always fill in the last role for the team (I end up being a zen main more than Hanzo) and prefer picking Hanzo when the team needs a sniper (I suck at widow, sue me.) and it's even better when I can coordinate with a Zarya player. I'll give up my Hanzo too if 2 people insist on playing Ana and widow. (It's pretty funny though when I end up in games where I see an enemy Hanzo just massacre said Ana and widow)

I know when to switch out if they're hard core trying to shut me down with 2/3 flankers always on me or god forbid I piss someone off and they go after me with a pharah or Winston.

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>>387871428
For a second I expected some Pharah cosplay

>>387871478
>I always fill in the last role for the team

How do you ever end up not picking a tank or healer?

>>387871340
Different guy, but admitting you're masters is a fucking embarrassment. You actually wasted your life at a shit game with the most forced Esports scene lmao. Not to mention the entire ranked system along with the matchmaking is a complete joke.

>>387871063
I still use Torb to shut down skinny spam all the time

>>387857491
God fucking forbid a tank play like a tank and potentially impact a Genji player's fun. He's gold ranked in kills, he shouldn't have to deal with this stupid bullshit of characters not dying in two hits and a slash

>>387857491
Looks cool
Now buff roadhog back to how he was you dumb californian niggers

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>>387871658
>more salty plat rage
Now I know why the OW threads on /v/ are always full of the most stupid opinions, because you fucks are all stuck somewhere at gold or plat SR.

>>387871641
It happens. Sometimes people just instalock the healer. From there I decide if it's really better to pick my Rein/roadhog (ya ya, he sucks boo hoo, I still get shit done with him , I ain't gonna bitch about it to Blizzard or /v/) or maybe I should just stick to my mccree,junkrat or Hanzo I'll admit I'm a bit of an attack Torb (i give myself 1 min to be useful before switching)

>>387857273
>Can fire missiles why flying.
MOBIUS ONE, FOX TWO.

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>>387871938
Post proof of your master rank so we can see how much time you wasted into this game so we understand how much you have to go and shitpost on a Taiwanese papercraft forum to make yourself feel like you actually achieved something in life.

>>387871941
>It happens. Sometimes people just instalock the healer.
Be sure to send some of your team mates over to me.

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Those changes actually sound interesting as long as there's a balance between tanking, flanking and max DPS.

Blizzard is trying to make her a more fast paced hero by not allowing her to stall too much with matrix. They're nerfing her tanking abilities and making her more of an harasser, which makes sense since she was supposed to be like this since the release of the game (at that time blizzard thought that flying was enough to make her an harasser).

>Dva, an already perfectly balanced hero is becoming the next dive DPS
>Meanwhile Orisa keeps getting these tiny ass fucking changes like they're too afraid to touch her

>>387867717
h-how do i get past sad panda?

>>387874098
Dont be a nigger

>>387870198
You could actually sleep him as soon as he shoots down and no damage will occur

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>>387874265
I want to fap too...

>>387873815
>like they're too afraid to touch her

Do you really want another S2 Ana?

>>387857491
sounds fun but also unneccesary and probably a bad change overall. Not because it'd make her less useful, but it's basically turning her into a DPS with a ton of health and 2 lives.
A tank should be more focused on blocking damage, drawing fire and disrupting the enemy rather than dealing damage.

>>387870291
The matchmaking algorithm is garbage.

>>387871342
No he's not. That post is 100% correct.

This change is retarded. There are enough DPS characters as is, they don't need to add another one and reduce the variety of actual tanks.

>>387874820
He was probably talking about muh metawhores flocking to muh D'Va when I've seen that bitch every single fucking game for at least a year and she has had a place on basically every established meta team to date.

>>387866969
>good luck killing anyone that's has a Symmetra shield buff or if they have an Ana in the enemy team
>find an ana separated from her team
>dive her
>mercy saves her outta nowhere
>cant kill either of them because they out heal you

>>387857491
>lets change her core mechanics to be weaker but lets add small little side abilities to even her out with everyone else

sounds horrible.

>>387874991
On the plus side you've managed to get both of their supports focused on you instead of the rest of their team

>>387874360
Orisa would need the biggest buff imaginable to reach that level. She's barely touched at all levels of play.