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>You gain nothing from playing hard mode

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>You gain nothing from playing hard mode
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Normal is basically easy+, it's dull. hard is good and very hard is for ng+
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>>387823938
You gain self satisfaction
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>play on easy
>game mocks you
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>>387824554

>play on easy
>life mocks you
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>you can play hard mode from the start
>certain items are only unlocked by completing the game on easy mode and you can't get them by beating it in hard mode
>other items are only available by beating the game on hard mode
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>Play normal
>its too easy
>Play hard
>its too hard
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>>387823938
>not playing at the hardest mode to get gid faster
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>>387824858
i always play on normal cause I just want to have fun
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>>387825196
Nowadays normal is easy and easy is the game playing itself.
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>>387823938
>Game is easy on normal
>But it still takes too long to go through harmless HP sponges
>Switch to easy instead
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>>387824792
Name 3.14 games that do this
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>>387824792
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>>387825425
>playing the game
This was your first mistake.
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>you get the secret ending after playing on highest difficulty
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But you lose your dignity by playing on Easy.
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>>387823938

what are some games which reward you for playing on higher difficulties?
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I play every new game on hard. If you start on "easy" or even nu-easy, "normal" you are just gimping yourself. If you set hard or above as your baseline right from the off you are essentially doing yourself a favour as the game will feel easy and you will be better at it by the end
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>>387825425
This is accurate.
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>>387825785
Dragon's Dogma does something similar, but it ends up making you way overleveled for the content.
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>>387823938
>harder difficulties are locked at the start
>game is tough on Normal
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>>387825891
What if the game is that hard you stop enjoying it?

Has happened to me before when I have jumped straight to hard modes. Then at a later date I found I liked the game when I played it on normal and could figure out what I was doing without fucking it up every 2 minutes.
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>>387826549
It varies. If you're more comfortable playing on normal if hard is too hard right away, that's A-OK. More times than not, though, -- in my opinion -- playing on hard right from the off is better.
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>>387825785
>playing on a harder difficulty rewards you by making the game easier
What's the point?
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>>387823938
>play normal for the story
>then play on max difficulty to take the gameplay to its limits
this is the true way to play
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>>387826826
/thread
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>>387824792
Fucking xcom series I swear
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>>387823938
You gain nothing from playing the game on any difficulty.
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>Game becomes less boring on easy
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>play on hard
>its only hard in the beginning, gets easy by endgame
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Hard mode is usually a waste of time. They mostly buff enemy health while they kill you in 1-2 shots. The A.I isn't improved at all and there aren't any new tactics or different ways to get around an enemy.
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>>387827063
What is Dragon Age 2
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>>387823938
>play on DARK mode
>after second chapter the game is piss easy
>kill final boss without taking damage
Guess the game
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>>387826723

high risk high reward baby
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>>387827063
>>387827254
The Uncharted games.

You can actually do things other than play peekaboo behind chest-high walls.
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>>387826826
Agreed
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>finish the game on the hardest difficulty
>later learn that you could just play through the game on easy and switch it to hardest near the end for the achievement

It's like climbing a mountain only to learn that there's an escalator.
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> Roommate and I get game at the same time
> Start at the same time
> Roommate chose easy mode because "I wanted to get through the story first then play seriously."
> I choose hardest difficulty and still beat it first
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>>387823938

>You gain nothing from playing
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What games do difficulty well?

Even within the same genre, some games manage to handle difficulty much better than others. Bethesda games are unplayable on very hard but I've heard a lot of praise for some series like metro and stalker in relation to difficulty.
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>>387827680
do your fucking homework Gabu
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>higher difficulties increase item drop rates but reduce exp gain
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>play on easy
>gender is by default female
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>>387827775
>You gain nothing
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>game is highly dependent on doing objectives in the right time
>Hard makes every enemy into damage sponges and makes you fail objectives constantly
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>>387826826

>Can't experience the story on the highest difficulty

Name one game.
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>>387825785
Darkest Dungeon with the torch system. You can just let your torch go out, the enemies gain advantage but the loot you get is better. Your crit chance too, I think.
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>>387827834
The good platinum games do it well since they change enemy placement
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>>387827918
Why would anyone make such realistic design choice? If I wanted real life I would just go outside.
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>>387828060
fuckin femwhore
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>Game is easier when on the highest difficulty
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>>387823938
Depends if the game has an actual hard mode with different enemy placement and attacks or changes in levels.

If it's just a "they take less dmg, you do less dmg, you take more damage" then yeah, it´s a waste of time.
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>>387827920
>you gain
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Sometimes hard is more fun
not often, mind you, but still
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>>387828135
>you
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>>387825523
every cod game

Normal
>enemies retarded as fuck
Veteran
>enemies have an unlimited supply of grenades and have olympian tier throwing arms
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>>387828173
>
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>>387825785
Critical mode in Kingdom Hearts 2 starts you out with more AP and exclusive abilities
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>>387828389
uoy>
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>>387823938
If something is too easy it can't be fun. I can have fun with a game that is too hard but not one that is too easy.
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>>387828460
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>game is harder on easy
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>Play God of War 1 on Normal, nice challenge with the exception of those spinning spike towers which can go fuck themselves
>Started playing 2 on Hard
In hindsight I have no idea why, might as fucking well
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>>387823938
>>You gain nothing from playing hard mode

So?
>oh so you beat hard mode? well here you get this overpowered weapon you have absolutely no need of for when you replay it!
or
>oh you play on hard? let's give you 200% more xp and gold! (thus making the game easier)

You play on harder settings to make playing the actual game more enjoyable, that's it.
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>enemy vehicles become harder to destroy if theres a higher level enemy in it
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>>387823938
>You get better drops on hard
>It ends up easier because of the better drops.
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>Normal is too hard
>There is no easy
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>>387828460
You fucked it up
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>game decreases enemy HP on easiest setting, but also gives reduced rewards, exp, etc.
>hard setting increases enemy difficulty, but boosts rewards as well
>game becomes incredibly easy on the hardest setting once you clear the first few areas and start to outlevel the content, all the while getting improved loot drops, further helping you destroy the game
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>keep turning up difficulty
>nothing happens
was it a bug or what?
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>>387824792
Most strategy games for me.
fire emblem, xcom, some of the harder total war games, etc
I play on normal and its piss easy, then I think I'll switch to hard and its AAAAAAAA
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>Hard mode is you deal more damage, enemies take less damage
I sleep
>Hard mode is both you and the enemy deal 3x damage
Real shit
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>>387825523
near a tomato
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>>387823938
>game only has two difficulty settings
>easy is too easy
>hard is too hard
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>>387828368
getting all the achievos in cod 2 was hell because of this. they were all for completing levels on veteran.
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>>387828173
(You)
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>>387825425
This is especially true with recent Falcom games. Hard and Nightmare used to be soul crushingly difficult but now they feel like their old normal mode.
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>>387827834
>What games do difficulty well?

Depends.
Some games like Resident Evil 4 have adaptive difficulty (in makes the game easier or harder depending on how well you play).
Other games alter the rules over just increasing enemies HP & damage, like Hitman.
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>Game has 100 difficulty levels
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>easy normal hard
if you make a game right you don't need difficulty selections
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>>387823938
Spoken like a true Nintendildo. You guys have forgotten what challenge even feels like playing your baby Yarnshit for toddlers.
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>the true ending cant be obtained when playing on easy
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>>387829112
>if you make a game right you don't need difficulty selections

Some games can be difficult to balance for all types of players with one difficulty.
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>>387828569
Fucking STALKER.
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>>387828460
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>game locks higher difficulties behind Achievement completion
>Achievements are difficulty-specific and earning "Kill X on Hard" doesn't award lower-tier versions of the same
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>hardest difficulty every enemy 1 shots you
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>>387829190
+ Journo criticizes the ending and pretends he had played on normal.
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>game has a difficulty slider
>start it off right at the top for a good challenge
>forced to periodically slide it down over the course of the game otherwise it becomes impossible because the scaling is fucked
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>>387829251
>balancing a game for all players
>not balancing for a specific type of player to create a deeper more thought out gameplay experience
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>>387823938
>play normal to unlock hard
>play hard to unlock easy
>play easy to unlock gallery
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>>387828991
>RE4
what
I've never heard of that.
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>>387829324
>you also one shot them
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>>387829112
I disagree.
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>>387829324
>easiest difficulty ever enemy 1 shots you
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>>387829079
you mean 90
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>>387829428
>beating the hardest difficulty doesn't retroactively unlock all the easier difficulty cheevos
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>>387825785
Terraria, expert mode
https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Expert_mode
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>>387823938
>completing game in hard mode doesn't unlock the easy and normal trophies
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>>387829374
Jesus Christ what was Bethesda thinking with Oblivion. I could not believe I was getting owned by sewer rats in the opening sequence.
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>>387824792
Fire Emblem Awakening, what a shit game goddamn
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>>387829413
>>not balancing for a specific type of player to create a deeper more thought out gameplay experience

This is retarded and narrow-minded. Take a look at Hitman 2016.

Imagine if they were as autistic as you and only allowed for 1 difficulty setting, Professional wouldn't exist for people that craved that extra challenge. You also couldn't set Professional to the normal setting because fucking no one would bother with your game if the game started off that hardcore.
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>>387829601
That is the most retarded shit ever.
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>>387827606
I actually did that in real life once. I felt extremely stupid but it was a small mountain anyway.
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>>387829704
>play eaji modo
>get mocked by incredulous bunnies
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>>387829324
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>>387829619
i have no idea how they thought it was ok
you get to a certain level and suddenly random bandits are running around with the best armour and weapons in the game, why dont they just sell their own shit
and all the monsters in caves suddenly get replaced with ogres and shit with so much hp youd have a better chance at killing essential npc's
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>>387829453
>I've never heard of that.

That's because Capcom never officially went out with that info, that is something players discovered years after the game came out.
The point was to not have players notice it. For example if you did well less ammo for your favorite weapon dropped (amongst other things) while if you died a lot enemies became less aggressive.
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>>387827063
Fallout 4 survival mode on ps4 because it crashes 24 fucking 7.
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>>387829267
Why is it harder on easy?
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>>387825785
Dark Souls 2 with the bonfire ascetic mechanic. Shame it wasn't brought over in DS3 and BB.
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>game has 4 difficulties
>easy and normal provide no challenge whatsoever, and the descriptions taunt you
>third difficulty is hard, but still manageable is you stick to cover. This difficulty is also intended by the devs to be played the most, as it fits into the lore about how frightening the enemies you face you should feel, rather than just pathetic one hits. Enemy AI is also much more harder to play against, and suicide tactics and invisibilty is common
>Hardest difficulty provides cool rewards for exploring levels, is needed for a set of achievements that grant you developer-only items, and is incredibly difficult.
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>>387829453
>>387829930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFv6KAdQ5SE
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>>387825523
Touhou LelK

Fuck clownpiece and Junk-o
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>>387823938
>finish ace combat 5 on hard
>game still feels pretty easy
>find out expert mode only unlocks after completing on normal
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>hard difficulty starts off being fun >by end game its boring as fuck because every enemy takes an hour to kill
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>>387823938
>No exp lvl 1 critical run

why
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>beat hard
>doesn't unlock achievements for normal and easy
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>>387823938
>You gain nothing from playing hard mode
That's not true. If you know the basics of how the brain works, you'd know that the harder something is to accomplish the more satisfaction/positive emotions you'll get when you finally accomplish it. So you can either snack on tiny, almost meaningless accomplishments often or feast on one giant one not as often.
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>hard difficulties locked until after you beat easy and normal
fuck you. I'm not playing your game 4 fucking times.
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>>387830294
Enemies (and you) are giant bullet sponges. The higher the difficulty, the more lethal weapons are.
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>>387830312
Game?
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>>387830992
Fucking Guitar Hero. Give me the easy, normal and hard bonus guitars when I beat expert, you fucking fags.
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if you play on easy you may as well watch a playthrough of it on youtube instead
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>This game has boring combat!
>Plays on Easy/Normal
Why not play max difficulty and use every mechanic the combat gives you. Games become more fun with the higher difficulty and lets you use items/abilities/moves that you don't use in the lower difficulties.
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>>387823938
>not playing on the hardest difficulty
get out, kid
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>>387831923
Not always. Lots of modern games get lazy and just slap onto enemies a ton of HP and call it a day.
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>>387825785
The Witcher 2 did this.
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>>387829662
What? How is hard in Awakening too hard?
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>>387832229
Hard (Normal) is easy to Break, and Lunatic (Hard) is just busted.
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>>387829468
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire was pretty cool for doing this. Everything hurt like fuck, but storm troopers stopped being fucking blaster sponges.

The final stage of the gladiator droid was still a crime against humanity.
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>Have to beat the final boss in the tutorial to be allowed to play on hardest
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>>387832362
Oh you were talking about Lunatic.
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>>387829930
Are you sure about that? I think I remember reading about it in Game Informer's RE4 cover story. Regardless it definitely didn't take years to figure it out, days at most.
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>>387829930
>>387830376
>>387832557
Yeah, that video is completely wrong. The dynamic difficulty was discussed in the official strategy guide, so it was officially disclosed by capcom at release.

Why the hell does this misinformed garbage have a million views?
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>mfw i cant even beat starcraft 2's ai on the easiest setting
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>>387833698
did you not figure out how to a move with marines or something?
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>>387823938
>Play on easy
>complain that game has no challenge
Why are game reviewers such shitters?
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>>387824792
fucking Nier Automata
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>>387823938
You gain the satisfaction of not being a loser, maybe?
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>>387834008
my motor skills are less than nothing
i have to think for a while on how every unit can be played
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>>387825762
KH
although getting the secret ending is easier in harder difficulty in that game.
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>all the interesting mechanics are hidden in v.hard/survival
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>>387834556
Play a pausable RTS, nigga. Or better yet, go turn-based.
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>Played Trails in the Sky on easiest difficulty
>Still got my ass handed to me, I completely sucked at it

I guess I just suck at JRPG's that badly.
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>>387827424
yeah I saw that pretentious turbo button video too.

>your next move is to lie and say you haven't seen it
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>>387823938
>Playing on the highest difficulty setting allows you to see all the game content in a single playthrough.
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>>387835095
Not him, but I really like Turbo button, I don't think I watched the uncharted video though because IDGAF about that series. He's not even remotely pretentious.
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>>387824739
game?
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>>387826926
I wish Xcom had separate difficulty sliders for the base/map management part and the ground combat part.
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>>387823938
>play hard mode
>enemies get more HP and that's it
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>>387824792
this is what happens when you have three difficulties instead of 5 or 6
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>>387834869
Is Warcraft 3 pausable?
I admit I know nothing about the game actually
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>>387827259
The Witcher 2
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>>387836394
No but the flow of combat is slower due to units being somewhat tougher to kill, so the pace might be better for you.
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>>387834474
>playing on hardest difficulty mode for self satisfaction
>not a loser
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>>387837285
Seeking self satisfaction through challenge is probably not a trait that a lot of losers have.
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I always pick the hard difficulty, I like the challenge but I can understand people that choose to play babbymode
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>console game
easy mode
>pc game
normal or hard mode

i fucking hate using a controller but exclusives are exclusives and my retarded ass can only aim w/ kb+m
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>>387830312
Sounds like ODST vidmaster challenges to me and halo in general
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>Easy
>Medium
>Hard
>Pick Hard difficulty, Normal if its an older game.

>Easy
>Normal
>Hard
>Very Hard
>Pick Hard difficulty

>Normal
>Extreme, Nightmare, Silver difficulty.
>Pick Normal difficulty

This is how I choose.
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>>387824792
That's when you start exclusively playing Hard to git gud.
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also
>game is old as fuck
>controls are janky as shit and dated
>play on easiest difficulty because it's difficult enough as it is without giving the enemies better aim/more hp etc etc.
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>>387827956
Fire Emblem. It has permadeath and if a character dies you don't get to experience any of their dialogue or support. It's why FE13 added a "nobody ever dies and hitting 0 HP just takes you out of the current map" Casual Mode.
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>>387823938
You don't gain anything from playing games period anon. That's why you just play on the mode you think is the funnest.
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>Easy
>Normal
>Hard

>Bullshit
>Bullshit Deluxe

I usually go with hard, and then replay on Bullshit/switch midway through if I'm feeling good.
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>>387824792
>play normal
>it's too hard
>play easy
>it's too easy
Can we have a Very Normal difficulty?
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>>387838650
In what game release after 2000 is normal too hard?
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>Hardest difficulty is the easiest
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>Hard mode
>decent challenge, enemies can still fuck you up if youre not careful

>Merciless
>criticals and technicals do one hit kills.
>lowest payout of exp and cash.
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>>387839054
I thought ZoE2 normal was stupid hard,
especially compared to ZoE1 and how braindead easy is
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>>387823938
>The only way to truly experience Crysis 1 is to play on the hardest difficulty (Delta) simply because it's stays true to making the game atmospheric.
>No crosshairs
>More reliant on weapon sights/scopes
>The NORTH KOREAN soldiers actually speak KOREAN instead of plain English to notify the players of their actions.
>No indicator for grenade drops.
>Playing it is fucking impossible. Can't even pass through the first little village. Forget about stealth, enemies spot you a mile away even when hiding in the bushes/rainforest and call an army of reinforcements to rape your ass.
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>>387839278
I started on hard and hard is pretty fucking hard. I don't remember if I ever played normal.
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>>387839182
At least it makes it easier to get that damage trophy
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>>387839294
>No crosshairs
>More reliant on weapon sights/scopes

stop. I don't want to play another fps again.
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>>387823938
Except the satisfaction of overcoming a challenge, which is what games are supposed to be about. That's the whole idea of games going back into antiquity, to challenge the player and to improve his skills in either intellectual or physical pursuits. That's why games will never be art, we already have other media for telling stories.
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>>387839182
>grinding is now more of a chore but hey at least you can one shot them now
so does that make the game easier or what?
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>>387828368
CoD literally has a grenade spawn mechanic if you stay too long in cover and gated areas where enemies will infinitely respawn until you reach the next zone.
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>>387839294
>>The NORTH KOREAN soldiers actually speak KOREAN instead of plain English to notify the players of their actions.
That's actually really neat. Wish more games did this.
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>>387827254
dragon age origins too
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>>387823938
>Game has exclusive content only available on hardest difficulty
>Can't beat hardest difficulty or it's so hard that even if you can it's unenjoyable
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>>387823938
>play game on hard first playthrough
>get unlockable/trophy for beating game on hard
>doesnt unlock for normal and easy as well
>have to play two more times on baby mode
>become shit at game
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>>387825523
Etrian odyssey, and some other dungeon crawlers
Pillars of eternity, and some other crpgs
Fire emblem 10
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>>387823938
MY EGO WON'T ALLOW ME TO PLAY ON LOW DIFFICULTIES YOU KEK
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>>387824537

But I'm not 14 anymore. I no longer need to get off to my own skill in video games.
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>Play on the easiest difficulty
>The superboss uses a hard to dodge instant death attack
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