Stop playing SMT and Persona.

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>>387813141
ok ricky, I'll do whatever you say

lolis are the future!

Stop being a pedophile.

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le tan millenom girl

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>>387813683
There are no lolis in EO. Only 18+ dungeon ready girls

>>387813141
You can't stop someone from having shit taste so easily.

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>>387813808
There are no lolis on EOV that's for fuckin' sure

>>387813141
I don't like EO though

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You did this to yourself

>>387813895
There's like 2

>>387814153
And that's a disgrace

>/v/ claims to be loli loving degenerates
>EO threads die barely halfway to the bump limit

Anyone got some nonlewd hexer art?

>>387814335
Newest etrian has like no lolis, anon's heart is broken

>>387814079
Can't wait for PQ2.

>>387814335
That's cause I don't play EO for the lolis, I do it to Go solo through the game like a goddamn retard because suffering is fun.

>>387814502
>Solo
Not even fun.

Now duo, THAT'S fun. Did Etrian Odyssey 1 on the DS with a Landshark and an Alchemist.

The fifth stratum was fucking aids. Hit level 70 back in stratum 4, retired to 71, and Muskoids still fucked my world up. It got to the point where if I ran into them, I would either successfully run, or be stunlocked and murdered.

Final boss wasn't that bad since I had the statbloat from being a retired 71 tag team of termination.

Claret Hollows was obviously impossible, but I killed Etreant.

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>>387814420
lewd hexer? who would draw such a thing?

>>387814797
Dude, I'm surprised I even hit the 4th stratum As an Alchemist. You couldn't believe the joy I felt when I managed to kill the Golem. Now I just kinda hit a roadblock

>>387815072
Etrian Odyssey 1's Major roadblock is the fact that you will hit level 70 by Stratum 4 with one or two players, and retiring takes a very large amount of time.

The softcap is the reasonable 71, but it can hardcap up to 99, but it's wholly not worth it, since anything in the game can be accomplished at level 71. Soloing this game doesn't even seem fun because you'll be going through a CONSIDERABLE portion of the game without ever actually increasing in strength. Everything becomes hard as fuck.

Landshark/Alchemist was a great combo because of the Silencer Axe Skill dealing a fuckton of damage and almost always headbinding even foes at rank 10. In Etrian Odyssey, enemies that are headbound take 50% more spell damage, so the Alchemist is generally able to blow shit up from thereon.

Kudos in reaching Stratum 4 with an Alchemist, but beating Iwaopeln might not be possible.

>>387815295
It might not, but it was more or less the thought of "Could I actually do it" That even got me this far. Can't say I completely hated it. Also fucking shoutout to Light formula/tincture and backlight for every turn I couldn't pull off any other spells. Pulled me out of more jams than I can consider, plus made boss fights past the first stratum entirely possible.

>>387815824
>Light Formula

Wait, are you talking about Untold? I've been talking about Vanilla Etrian Odyssey, back when Alchemists could still learn Poison.

What difficulty are you playing on?

Reminder that the EO general is a pointless general and is fill with image bumping and 0 discussion.

>>387816182
Sounds like /vg/ in general.

>>387816036
oh yeah, forgot to mention. Yup, untold. On expert. I'm actually relatively new to EO, but got the chance to take looks at 2 before untold came out and 3. I got Millenium girl on an impulse buy. I kinda wish I knew about vanilla etrian odyssey sooner. I would've loved it

>>387816182
le millenom girl

>>387816239
That's fine. Etrian Odyssey vanilla has a much harder beginning, where an Alchemist can and will be oneshot by a mole if they're on the front line.

Kudos on getting that far on Expert, though. The game is far less forgiving near the end. Unfortunately you can't artificially increase your levels via retiring in Untold, and can only increase your levels by killing dragons after Etreant.

My recommendation? Just do a 2-man Etrian Odyssey run. It's about as challenging as a solo mission, while being more fun, and actually possible to beat.

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EO = shit

>>387816656
Oh yeah, the moment I realized that, I thought "fuck". Also can I just say fuck the 4th stratum FOE medusa trees and their petrify.

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Leave the Schwarzwelt to me.

>>387813141
"no"

>>387817050
Well good luck on your challenge runs, thusly.

I still have to beat EO4 with a solo Nightstalker. I just have to pass Stratum 3 and then it's smooth sailing.

>>387813141
EO is absolutely terrible, though.

>>387817180
Oh yeah, how good is 4? I've thought about getting it along with EO2U. Assuming I'd find a copy

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>>387817195
Don't you have some harems to maintain and relationships to link, while playing the objectively easier series?

>>387817286
My idea of Quality is as follows.

EOU2>EOU2>3>4>2>1

4 is in no means a bad game, but it's much easier than any other iteration of Etrian Odyssey, and it only has about 18 floors compared to the average of 30, even if it has a few "sub"floors which attempt to make up for the size and fail.

Great music, meh story, good class synergy, but as I said, the game is frustratingly easy, even on the hardest difficulty.

>>387817467
Ahhh, I see. Can't wait until 3 gets the upgrade treatment, and when 5 comes over here.

>>387817467
That second EOU2 is supposed to be a 1.

>>387817603
Same. Strangely enough, EOU2 sort of hinted at EOU3, by saying a fallen star landed in a far off place, hinting that the Fafnir was reborn in Armoroad.

Gonna be fucking great. I loved 3.

>make a good dungeon crawler game
>ruin it by putting lolis everywhere to cater to the pedophiles

Two nukes weren't enough

>>387817297
>he says while posting nisekoi, literally the worst haremshit ever

>>387817768
I literally only downloaded that picture for reaction purposes. To be honest, I have no idea who she is or where she's from, but YOU do.

Think about that for a minute.

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>>387817286
Probably the worst in the series. IV isn't bad but fairly basic, whereas EO2U is absolutely insufferable, gimmicky garbage. EO games come in various flavors, can be summed up like so:

>Good Dungeons, Good Balance
EOU
EOV

>Good Dungeons, Bad Balance
EOIII
PQ

>Bad Dungeons, Bad Balance
EO2U
EOIV

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>>387818042
EO4 is easier, but it also have the best balance in terms of classes.

>>387818042
who cares about balance in a single player game?

>>387818042
I agree with everything except for /v/'s insensate need to bash on Etrian Odyssey Untold 2. I don't get it. The dungeons were fun, the music was great, the difficulty was balanced. The only objectively bad part about the game was the horrible bosses that each had some stupid time wasting gimmick that you had to take if you didn't want to instantly die.

It had access to the Ginnungagap even in Classic Mode, a shit ton of special items for unique drops, a MUCH better Grimoire system than Untold 1, and a very awesome 5th and 6th stratum.

Where does the hate come from? It's just as solid as 2 was, and 2 was solid.

>>387817692
Ah, I see. Can't wait.

>>387818042
Well shit, it can't be that bad

>>387817845
Oh shit, it's an actual authentic ironic weeaboo.

>>387818673
I didn't download it to be ironic. I have a literal use for it, and it's as a reaction image. The fact that you look any deeper than the emotion that I'm obviously conveying towards you is your problem and your problem alone.

>>387818763
the more you post to him, the more he's going to keep posting back to get you to react defensively

>>387818042
EO4's ease is one of the reasons why it's the best to start with though

>>387817053
We need more sci-fi dungeon crawlers

>>387813141
Well outside of strange journey, the first i tried that serie with, smt as been disappointment after disappointment and Persona 4 one of the worst rpg i ever played.

You don't have to aim at me if what you want of me is to play EO. Atlus is only good at making drpg, which is why pq and sj are the best of their respective serie without even trying.

>>387813141
Learn to handle a gun properly

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>>387817738
Yeah, SMT is awful.

>>387819229
maybe play the first two smt games, my dude

>>387818292
It's because he's wrong and is probably one of those tards who whines about HP bloat when the game gives you more damage anyway so it's the same but with an extra 0 tacked onto the end of the HP and damage numbers.
It's the same fucking guy in every thread, he's posted that retarded "ranking" before with the same complaints.

>>387819774
And the first two Devil Summoner games. Even if the first isn't translated.

>>387813141
Is this a sfm model I can download?

>>387820317
It's available somewhere, but I don't think it's free last time I checked. Atlus ended up including this and the Raquna model in the official artbook because they were so high quality, despite being originally fanmade.

>>387820074
Not really, HP bloat is only a minor nuisance in the grand scheme of things. It and the DLC are low-hanging fruit because they're well known and easy to complain about. The real drag is the labyrinths which end up being room after room of FOE "puzzle" culminating in the boss which will probably wipe a blind party until they learn its gimmick, forcing them to redo the puzzle yet again. Don't even need to go into the retarded core mechanics on the dragons, as I've yet to see anyone seriously defend those. All of it topped off by the most laughable sixth stratum, even easier than EOIV's which can pull some nasty surprises on the player.

>>387820317
Not SFM, it's MMD.

>>387813141
Okay, what should I play then?

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>>387821616
I still want to download it, I can import it to sfm if it's mmd using blender

>>387821926
I don't know how I feel about Ricky acting like this.

>>387821926
Having this 3D model made me realize That Etrian Odysona could work well. Put the cast of untold 1 and untold 2 into a school setting and do smt esque combat and dungeon exploration. Too late now though.

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>>387823784

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>>387823907
Just play Persona then

>>387813141
No, your game lack of playable characters with define personalities turns me off.

>>387824129
I'm sorry you had a terrible childhood and have no imagination

>>387818042
I'm glad V is getting good reception, it will be the first EO I buy ever since I emulated the ds ones

>>387824062
Should people who are playing PQ just play Etrian Odyssey?

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>>387823907

>>387824252
I would rather write an original story than insert personalities in blank states.

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>Playing untold 1
>Finally realised that i made a terrible mistake choosing story mode
Fuck me, but mind as well finish it

>>387825532
>

>>387824252
Someone post the guide on how to use your imagination.

>>387824252
This is why I hate EO
Feels like I'm fucking insane for having conversations and story with these static character portraits. It makes me feel like I'm doing some kind of sonichu tier OC autism, and I hate it.
It's just not for me I guess.

>>387825792
>step 1 build what classes you want your party to be around
>step 2 give em names
>step 3 give em a backstory if you have to
>step 3.5 imagine how they'd react to scenarios if you want to go the extra mile
And presto. One hot and ready imagination coming right up

>>387821616
FOE puzzles are great and every game in the series features a ton of them, it's one of the things that sets EO apart from other turn based grid crawlers.. EO2U's are some of the most well done in the series.
I don't see the issue with bosses that wipe parties or the cores. I agree on the 6th stratum though, EOIV's had some of the best atmosphere and monster combos in the series.

>>387826526
For what purpose? All that will not appear in the game, there also not shipping, tyere is nothing to motivate to care for tgeee characters.

>>387824946
Yes

>>387826461
>role playing in an rpg is bad

>>387827514
did you have a stroke while typing this post anon?

>>387827815
No, i just fucking suck at phoneposting.

>>387827780
one thing is roleplaying, and another is making everything up

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>>387830148
Wow what a truly strange and foreign concept to RPGs

>>387817467
>it's much easier than any other iteration of Etrian Odyssey

Not really.
I'll say 2 is the hardest and the rest is about equal.

>>387830148
You don't need to make everything up. I just come up with a backstory for my characters and some kind of ending once the game is over.

Sometime I imagine how they reacts to some choice but that's all.

>this is the generation EO gets left behind
feels bad

>>387830148
>already having an established world, NPC, monsters, the main dungeon setting, And gear
>Not being able to, at the very least, Just give some characters a name and just dive right in

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>>387813141
No

>>387831374
It's a miracle that a series like it stayed alive this long anyway.
It's in a dying genre. What do we have left to us coming out or recent releases? EO (and by extension PQ) and that steam game with the really angry dev? The map-it-yourself crawler isn't exactly something that is a widely accessible type of game, and automapping crawlers have overtaken most of what people think of in terms of the blanket term "crawlers." I'm glad we're still getting PQ2 after EOV, and maybe on the brink of the 3DS we have the slight chance of an EO3U.

>>387830148
>everything
There are cute little fishing events and stuff like that

>>387821926
I wanna dicky that ricky

>>387834290
If you dicky that Ricky I'll dicky you.

>>387833360
What the fuck are you talking about ? EO revitalized the genre. Now we have those weebs dungeon crawlers on vita such as demon gaze and dungeon travellers. Mary Skeleters is coming soon to the west.

If you want a serious blobber, try out Stranger of sword city on PC or vita.

>>387834914
You have no idea what I was saying if you think Mary Skelter is part of it. I was referring solely to crawlers that make the player draw out the map, like old ones such as Shining in the Darkness. Mary Skelter is one of the modern automap crawlers I referred to as replacing the old style that EO perpetuates.
You are exactly the person I was talking about that uses the blanket term "crawler" for all types and thinks they are interchangeable and the same.

>>387813141
I'm still waiting for somebody to hit me up with that mmd download linnk

>>387835460
Just turn off the mini-map you autist

>>387819634
>three lolis in DSJ
>can make a party now
Finally I can go to prison

>>387836392
Is that all you got from that?
The whole thing I was saying was that map making crawlers are largely gone save for a select few, including EO. You cited some automap crawlers that place much less emphasis on the map.
>>387835524
It was a password DL model from a magazine called Windows 100.

>>387813808
I make exclusive loli parties with one guy to self insert my harem

>>387835524
I can't find her link but I found one for Raquna. Do you want the canadian?

>>387837751
That is acceptable but I need the millelnum girl too

>>387813141
But they're the JRPGs that bring me the most joy, along with EO.

>>387837821
Here's the one for Raquna.
https://model-giver.deviantart.com/art/Racoona-Sheldon-DL-385940356
Sadly the only dl for Ricky that I had known was taken down.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130717043125/https://jinanarogu.deviantart.com/art/Frederica-Irving-Windows-100-DOWNLOAD-382824385

>>387836876
You didn't play those games then.

EO3 RETOLD WHEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEE THEY STOPPED AT THE BEST GAME

>>387838259
Are you denying Mary Skelter is an automapper?

>>387837821
I found an extremely suspicious link from a somewhat dodgy hentai website do you still want it? Not my computer so I'm not going to test it beforehand.

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Play a better game instead

>>387838564
do it

>>387837451
That's a sad story.

>>387838638
Alright here you go. Ctrl+F Fred for easy finding it.
http://forum.neko-sentai.com/showthread.php?p=282983

>>387838389
No but

>that place much less emphasis on the map.

Try moving around in Dungeon Travellers without a map.

>>387839108
You still don't make it yourself, and you missed the entire point of what I was saying. The maps make themselves in all of those games, and use the same minimap in the corner system as almost every modern crawler I was talking about.
I'll restate it so it's clearer.
EO is one of a select type of crawler that has the player make the map themselves rather than the game making it for them. This crawler type is commonly referred to as a Pen and Paper crawler, and EO is the only one that simulates that via a second screen that lets the player draw the map themselves, rather than a map makes itself like in most modern crawlers.
EO itself is a wizardry clone, one of the most well known PnP crawler series.

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>>387838830
oh that's an actually legit site made specifically to talk about hentai artists and the like. I did not even know they had mmd mirror threads.
Thanks for the link, now I get to turn this slut into a cumdumpster WITH FULLY MODELED VAGINA

>>387839108
I started DT2 and immediately missed EO's mapping tools. Since doors are just tiny nicks in walls and not icons you have to manually scan the minimap each time to find the way forward if you haven't been in it recently. It's like a pen & paper maze except you can draw in the correct route and you have to just eyeball it. Same with event markers. There's points marked as roadblocks, again a nick with a red triangle in it, but there are sometimes multiples on a map that in EO you could manually add with an appendix saying what it was. Sure I could just map it myself with pen & paper but the strength of EO Is integrating it seamlessly into the actual game so I don't have to.

Also I miss having actual monster designs instead of naked women and fruit, but I guess that's supposed to be part of the appeal.

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>>387840734
>spoiler
anon
Have fun with it then, glad that it's legit.

>>387817845
It's from nisekoi. It's a good read. I recommend. Especially now that it's over, and all the parts dragging it out are just funny in retrospective. Plus best girl wins.

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someone please help make EOU2 fun for me I beated EOU1 and PQ

>5 days stuck in b8f quest
>Gigantic nest with no monsters in the same floor
>Easy auto-walk waiting simulator
Hello?

>>387839476
I understood.

But you can make the mini map fuck off and draw it yourself. What's the problem ?

Plus EO do most of the work for you by putting the ground. I enjoy drawing the map but this isn't an essential tool for me.

>>387841097
Yeah the map is pretty shit and the monster design is weak. I do like the fruit tho.

>>387843750
Well then that's good for you, you can enjoy them without the map drawing. Map making is one of the prime draws EO has for me though.
EO is the only one that does it like a real PnP would though and that's largely due to the DS/3DS's screen split, which is why I generally prefer it among crawlers. I don't dislike crawlers that use minimaps with auto on default but they feel like different types of game entirely.

DAMN MAXIMILIEN GIRL.

>>387844881
That's because every serie of blobber or whatever you want to call them is different. EO feels different than Experience Inc. games who feels differents than DT2, etc

>>387830556

>Wow what a truly strange and foreign concept to RPGs

in the image you posted a game where you have other people playing other characters whose personality you don't control, you're not talking to yourself.

>>387845936
Blobber is a fairly wide reaching term so I avoid using it. EO itself feels very much like a less obtuse version of Wizardry 4, or like Shining in the Darkness with a better battle system. I tend to try and separate them into types within the umbrella genre of "dungeon crawler," and EO falls into the old PnP type I'm used to on /vr/ and /tg/. If I had a Vita I'd still play Mary Skelter (unfortunately they don't sell them here), but I can't lump it in with EO.

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I want to give Ricky what she deserves.

>>387814079
The only thing that I disliked in that game outside of the chibi is the ORIGINAL CHARACTERS: DO NOT STEAL. Otherwise it was a pretty fun game.

>EOU Story is bad!
>15 times per thread

Okay, seriously, what is so bad about this story mode? I have never played EO1 or EOU, so I have nothing to compare it to, but what is honestly so bad about it that this sentiment is carried around? Especially when there's an EOU2 floating around. Surely it had praise outside of /v/'s contrarian attitude for it to get a sequel, right?

>>387847385
Nothing, people like to pretend having autism and making your own OC is a requirement for enjoying EO

>>387847385
Many EO fans dislike the notion of preset characters when the other games make the player use a custom party.
EOU locks a dungeon behind story mode.
There will always be people who hate things changed in remakes regardless of content.
And a few minor complaints that aren't exclusive to story mode.

As far as the EO1U story actually goes, it's pretty standard JRPG fare, but it lacks characterization for most of the characters. It carries the player through the game at the speed expected of a JRPG story, and has some minor voicing. It's not actually that bad and I'd recommend playing it through at least once for that ending and the extra dungeon, plus Raquna is one of the best Canadian video game characters to grace a console.
EO2U actually has a legitimately entertaining story and they learned from the mistakes with EO1U's story mode by making the story relevant dungeon not locked to story and only locking the powerful MC unit behind it, which people would have whined about anyway if it was in classic due to his damage nuke abilities. The characters receive some reasons to make the player care about them more and Bertrand (the old man) is a great character, by far the best in the game. It's less mandatory than the EO1U story mode in terms of content but it's more enjoyable by far and I'd still recommend playing it.

>>387847385
Playing untold 1 right now
Aside from the fixed party and that the story It's not THAT bad, having to stop every 5 steps in the labyrinth because one of the party members starts ranting some retarded thing can get pretty annoying

>>387847385
It's not bad just very by the books. Aside from Frederica "Dicky the Ricky" Irving the characters don't really feel like they develop much and it doesn't really try and do anything different or unique. So compared with just playing classic it does feel like a boat load of unnecessary dialogue.

I imagine a lot of the hate is related to the fact that Gladsheim and its bosses plus the Highlander and Gunner class require you to do story mode with only the 2 classes transferrable via ng+ to classic. Thankfully they rectified this in 2U.

>>387847385
It's your average japanese adventur story (so forgetable drivel) and it shit on my headcanon.

Untold 2 is funnier but still bland.

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>>387847385
It barely has anymore story than classic mode, it's just than rather than having DM-narrator style events in dungeons, you have characters that talk. And there's the occasional anime cutscene. Overall the EOU party is pretty boring, EOU2's party has a better sense of unity and since there is optional one on one scenes with all of them, you get more development and you start to care more about them than anyone from EOU1, I don't care how much you want dick Ricky, she's pretty boring

>>387848776
EOU's team is far more functional than the slow party that depends on EOU2's weak ass party carried by Fafnir nuking enemies

>>387849503
Oh look, someone that didn't actually play the game. Until Fafnir gets all his special shit unlocked at the end of each stata, Chloe is nuking shitting left and right

>>387849503
Not him but what?
Chloe is your prime dealer while faffy builds up his gauge and abilities, Ailment Slash is ridiculously good.

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I want to give Chloe my meat

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>>387813141
But I like to play your series in the form of a double crossover spinoff of a spinoff.

I tried EO3 DS, I didn't like it all that much. Made it to the Porcelain Forest and the Abyssal King, but I was forcing myself to get through that last dungeon and I never did finish it. The lava cavern was particularly bad too.
Your EO arrange albums are absolutely stellar though, I could listen to them forever.

>>387840734
I was expecting rainbow ricky. Very disappointed anon.

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>>387851116
yes that's perfect

>>387816182
So it's a typical /vg/ thread

I still haven't unfinished Untold. Got stuck on that giant bird the leaf person summoned. It's been months so I remember no names.

>>387841930
> best girl
> chitoge

What's it like having shit taste?

marika is best, tsugumi second

>>387813141
but I've only played p3 and soul hackers

>>387813808
More sweaty 18+ dungeon ready girls please!

>>387813141
>game forces a romance between Highlander and lemon girl instead of the superior canadian
Why do the Japanese have the WORST taste?

I tried playing DeSu and I learned that I fucking hate SRPGs
Is EO fun? I liked Strange Journey

>>387852996
If you like Strange Journey then probably.

>>387852996
if you like SJ you'll probably like EO, the big difference is that EO skimps out on plot and characters in favor of map drawing and team building

>>387852127
>How does it feel to win?
Feels like something you're not familiar with.

>>387852415
There's absolutely no romance in the game though, sure they go together at the end but there's nothing explicit.

>>387852415
So you can have Raquna instead.

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>>387855027
But I want the maid

>>387813141
>Stop playing SMT
I might take a break from SMT 4 Apocalypse, actually. I went into it blind and set it to Apocalypse difficulty, and everything was more or less fine up until Krishna. Now I'm thinking I need to grind out some Null Mind/Nerve units, which is going to take a lot of Macca that I don't have. Also, fuck Enduring Cheer.

>>387852996
>hated DeSu
What a shame.

>>387856245
Pay her then

>>387813141

No. Now what are you going to do about it, pussy?

>>387825164
damn this is a great pic, raquna looks pretty hot there too. can i get some lewds?

>>387857939
Freddy is hotter

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>>387858159

Said no one ever.

>>387858317
I say it every day.

>>387858317
This isn't sexy.

>>387813141
Aren't both the same thing now thanks to IVA?

>>387858474
this is a false statement

>>387858317
thank you friend

>>387858159
ill take pics of her too, but i'm guessing shes untold 2, i'm on [spoilers]lost shinjuku[/spoiler] in eou story so i have not made it there yet. i'm sure she is very sexy.

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>>387858317

>>387813141
Etrian Odyssey 3 Untold when?

>>387860871
on switch hopefully

>>387846273
>you're not talking to yourself
You know you just described the process of writing a story, right? A good character driven story with a solo author usually has someone who enjoys doing things like this so much and has gotten so good at talking to themselves that it's entertaining for other people to digest what they've put together.

I mean if it isn't for you that's cool, anon, but I wouldn't look down on the idea.

>>387860871
EOV and PQ2 come first I guess

>>387819041
>one of the main aspects of the series is the hard difficulty
>"oh yeah, start with the easiest one! it's on par with other jrpgs!"

>>387864883
EOV came out a year ago dude

>>387865116
Not in the US

>>387865037
the difficulty can be a steep wall for some; eo4 is still difficult for beginners who have not had much experience with the genre. but its difficulty is more accessible, and bridges that gap into the subsequent/previous games quite nicely.

>>387865352
As if Atlus gives a shit if the west has the game or not

>>387865385
I got so bored of the easy difficulty of EO4 that I simply deleted it from my SD card and never bothered with EO until I saw EOU on sale (which by the way completely hooked me with the series). I was looking for something challenging, not another game with Final Fantasy levels of difficulty.

>>387865535
4 is certainly more difficult than most final fantasy games; most of the time the difficulty presented in ff can be brute forced via grinding (which sometimes the games intend for you to do). even the easiest etrian odyssey still requires more robust thinking and resource management than final fantasy.

that being said, no one was talking about getting you into the series. people were asking in a more general sense -- more generally, eo4 is a good introduction to the series. if you truly desire a more intense difficulty, then sure go for an untold. but if you're just curious about the series then eo4 is a fine place to start for most people. even then, if you start with 4 and think "this is too easy", then you know exactly where to head to next: one of the more difficult entries.

>>387860871
probably never

>>387858317
That is one lewd navel

>>387865535
>mfw Untold caused me to drop the series for a while

God damn, I went in with low expectations and was still managed to be let down.

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>>387858317
>this is official art
>this is the coon's canon outfit underneath her armor

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>>387866420
it was pretty well known from the start

eo5 cancelled due to p5 dlc
atlus.eo5.usa.nomore.

Okay be honest how many of you also were crazy enough to try a Nuzlocke in EO?

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>>387866420
That reminds me, why doesn't Himukai do more art? Outside of EO and his "Persora" book, he's usually just doing singles in other games like FF or mobile stuff, or slowly producing loli doujin that never gets scanned. His art is great outside of EO as proven with Zeus in PQ, so it's not like his skills as a designer beyond humans are limited either. Is he just too pricey, picky, or do no devs want him?

>>387868332
Maybe it's just too much effort on his part?

>>387869843
Maybe, since his art is generally really high quality and he puts a lot of editing to make it perfect apparently, given his recent info about ANE4.
I just want to see him take a lead role in more titles. He's a great artist and his style is very recognizable.

Stop bumping.

>>387870641
Why? Thread is pretty alright in terms of discussion.

>>387820074
>HP bloat
>When Gunner exists
>When WM/Hexer wombo combo exists
It really is a dumb argument

>>387871312
>HP Bloat is not a thing!*
>*As long as you use these prescribed classes that will make this balanced
Why not just remove the HP bloat and tone down those classes damage instead?

>>387871312
It's not even just those. Every decently usable party can deal ridiculous amounts of damage and lock down fights with ease. It's just higher numbers on both sides. If it were original EO2 damage vs the new HP, I'd understand, but it isn't, your adventurers are powered up anyway. People just don't like big numbers I guess.

>>387871848
Yeah I know but those classes are the easiest to remember.
Also is it just me or was Battlefield's Awakening a poor fit for the Yggdrasil core?

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>>387872078
I'm just glad it wasn't cut this time, it's a fantastic theme. Yggdrasil Core deserved a more dramatic theme though (but not Dyed in Blood). Something like the U2 Core's theme.

>>387813141
EO is babby's first dungeon crawler.

>>387872782
enlighten us, great sensei, what would a more advanced entry be?

>>387826885
>FOE puzzles are great
Yeah I sure love big empty rooms where I have to solve some piss easy FOE puzzle over and over. Really fun level design.

>>387872972
A game from the Wizardry series. Why even bother asking a question knowing you will be shut down immediately?

>>387873024
Glad you agree.

>>387873113
>why even bother asking a question knowing you will be shut down immediately
i was asking a question my friend, and you gave me an answer. if answering someone's question is "shutting them down" to you, then you may need a healthy dose of real social interaction.

>>387873113
Which Wizardry?

>>387873246
It was an obvious question with an obvious answer, and all I did was point it out.

>>387872363
The original sounds better I think. Not a fan of the trumpets. And that core's theme was just a slightly different version of Shiver

>>387873295
7 in particular, 8 is good too but I never got too into it because of life reasons.

>>387873362
Oh i was gonna link it too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8OgkTKRtrc

>>387873350
well i did ask the question, so perhaps the obvious conclusion is that it was not obvious to me.

if it would not bother you, oh great one, i have another question if you would grace me with an answer. why are the wizardry games better? do they have as many lolis?

>>387873362
The U2 core's theme is a slowed down version of the Fafnir Transformation theme, what are you talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbaLanSsTgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOS3qTA8d3I

>>387873453
That's the finale after the actual fight, that shit is basically scripted.

What is everyones favourite normal battle theme?

>>387873439
>why are the wizardry games better?
For one it has a sheer level of depth over EO. Far more variety of builds, more variety of mechanics, and generally more challenging. In all fairness EO is built with playing it casually in mind and not with serious dedication like Wizardry games.
>do they have as many lolis?
If you know how to edit portraits, sure.

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>>387873846
cool, thanks

>>387873992
your welcome. sorry we got off on the wrong foot.

>>387873509
That's still the boss's unique theme though. The generic boss theme before it isn't.
They made it kick in when the mc does his power up, just like U1's theme doesn't kick in until they ''beat'' the form weakened by the Yggdra vaccine

>>387874031
no worries, it happens. i probably came across as an ass on my end, my bad there.

The EOU2 team would fit so well in dungeon meshi, I swear I enjoyed the food shit a lot.

>>387874034
It's not the bosses theme, it's Fafnir's theme extremely it's extremely dramatic because he just reached his final form and is about to obliterate the penis in front of him with his 9999HP per turn regeneration

>>387874509
Then The Battlefield That Never Sleeps is the U1 party theme.
The game ost itself labels it as the boss theme. It plays during the ''real'' death of the boss phase. There isnnt a specific theme for it outside of it. What more does it need

>>387874509
It still ends up being the second game's equivalent to battlefield awakening.

>>387873695
2nd theme in EO3. I think everyone hates it though because it continues up until the 6th stratum. Kinda weird that 3 is missing a different theme for post game

>>387874509
I wonder if it is actually possible to die with the final fafnir form, like by stalling too long or something.

>>387874509
Id obliterate fafs peen.
But you could replace faf with the ricky brigade and final form with salad spirit power and it's U1 so I'd say it's equal to U1 core theme

>>387875479
It should have an achievement for fucking up when it's literally impossible to like that one Ys origins fight.

>>387813808
OH GOD THAT LOLI MADE ME CUM GALLONS THANKS TO THAT DOUJIN
fuck my caps

>>387847000
why did you dislike them?

I was recommended to play EO3 of the DS titles first. How does it compare to SJ, if there's even grounds for such a comparison?

>>387878796
SJ is pretty much SMTxEO, but EO3 is probably harder overall and with less team flexibility.
The little plot it has is comfy and the levels are good.

>>387878898
Wouldnt it be the exact opposite? EO3 felt pretty flexible with the subclassing system.

>>387879617
And in SJ you can literally change party members on a whim while keeping a stock for every battle.
That's the good part of SMT.

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When are we getting the Made in Abyss DLC?