Every multiplayer shooter would be better without sniper rifles in it.

>>387777147
I unironically agree.

which game is responsible for giving us snipers in most fps games?

y-you mean I have to actually play the game and can't sit in the back lines like a bitch getting free insta-kills? n-no!!

>>387777147
>Sniper rifle does less damage the closer the target is to the user
Fixed

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>>387777147
>he doesnt like sniping

>>387777259
Goldeneye

I hate that in most games, the only counterplay to a sniper is a better sniper. How is that reasonable? TF2 at least has classes that directly counter Sniper. Lots of games don't.

>>387777147
They were fine in arena shooters.

>>387777307
>he likes sniping
cuck

>>387777281
doesn't fix the problem implied by
>>387777276
i'd suggest maybe giving the projectiles a crazy unrealistic arc as well, just to make sniping harder

>>387777332
if only because everyone's moving at mach speed in most good arena shooters, thus needing skill

99% of shooters with "snipers" have nothing to do with actual sniping, which is about patience and concealment. video game "sniping" is about reflexes. the only games with actual sniping mechanics are milsims, dedicated sniper shooters, and arguably the Battlefield series.

>>387777426
my suggestion is just so that sniper rifles get long range kills like they're supposed to, but now turbo-autists can't practice 'quickscoping' and shit like that to cheat out the downside of using a long-range weapon. Basically, if snipers stop instakilling people at close range, they should be balanced.

>>387777426
Yeah, and they usually do shit damage without a head shot. If you can head shot some dude moving at mach speed you deserve a kill. Especially because you're probably moving fast as well.

Name 1 game where snipers are actually oppressive.

>>387777740
any game if you suck at positioning

alternatively, tf2 if you're playing as a class that's a poor counter, and your team's counters suck. There are few unbalanced mechanics; there are many unbalanced teams.

>>387777281

This is making it even worse. It's not the snipers that are standing near you who are the problem. They are easy kills

>implying regular bolt action rifles aren't better because no view obscuring scope and close quarters viability

>>387777324
Sniper players counter themself by being underage and retarded.

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>>387777954
Patrician thinking.

>>387777324
the best counter to a sniper in a semi-realistic game is class limits. one guy might get owned by a sniper, but four guys won't.

i agree but not because they are unfun to play against. its because they are unfun to play with and everyone seems to want to play it. overwatch is a perfect example. queue up for quickplay and i would bet 1000 dollars your team will have at least one, likely two snipers. it is a fucking cancer. so devs have to make it a balance. they have to make them good in every situation since retards are going to play them no matter what but they also need to make them not a living hell to play against. it is impossible to balance, so they should just be removed.

>>387777954
The scope isn't the problem with snipers in close range, it's that they've got a long time between shots and they're usually low dps high alpha weapons so unless it's a one hit kill your time to kill is longer than theirs even if you do hit your shots.

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>>387777147
Counter strike doesnt have this problem.
>clutches 5vs1 with awp
>tips fedora

>>387777147
b-but how will I show of with my l33t head shot skillz?

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>play PUBG
>only way to counter a sniper is to have one of the most rare loot drops in the game and it only works once

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>bolt action sniper rifles do more damage than semi auto sniper rifles

snipers are cowardly underage faggots

>>387777147
Yes. They should change those for the old school Railgun/Gauss.

>>387777147
I'll snipe guys, i'm the sniper, yeah I've always been more of the sniper type, you know

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>>387778661
desu it's not even worth getting worked up about this, the vast majority of games fuck it up.
>BFBC2
>M60 has the highest damage of all the machine guns
>MG3 has the lowest
>SAME FUCKING CALIBER
>mfw

>>387778648
And that is?

>>387777954
>regular bolt action rifle does arbitrarily reduced damage
>the same rifle with a scope on does more damage

Or worse

>unscoped rifle cannot 1 shot headshot

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>>387777307
>fun to play
>not fun to play against

anon bruh

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>>387777147
Imagine such a world.

>>387777147
*uncloaks behind you*
Nothing personal, mate
*backstabs*

>>387778879
stupid bloody spies

Do you think cod ww2 will stay alive on pc for more than one month this time?

>>387779047
D E D I C A T E D

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>>387779081
Are they going to go that this time?

>>387779081
Prior games had dedicated servers so I don't know what the hell you're on about
Do you mean community servers? Those are awful they killed PC gaming

>>387778830
name 11 games that do this

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>>387779181
>community servers killed PC gaming
explain how, and i hope you realize that you are an idiot while you think about the explanation

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>>387779181
Retard, bait or shill either way fuck off.

Imagine

>multiplayer shooter
>all the weapons are bolt action sniper rifles
>they're unwieldy, collide with level geometry and other players
>ballistics are properly simulated
>you have to operate the guns manually like in that Receiver game
>all the maps are really tight and claustrophobic with very few to no good camping spots
>you can fix bayonets or swing your rifle like a club

Basically imagine Condemned with bolt actions

>>387779658
Sounds like it'd turn into BANZAI: the game pretty fast

>>387779658
that's basically Red Orchestra 1, if you take away the machine gun and SMG classes. there are few FPS that are as deliberately clunky and slow. I wish it still had a playerbase at all.

>>387779693

EXACTLY.

I just like games with powerful weapons that are awkward to use.

Theres nothing wrong with snipers. The being-killed-in-1-frame-without-even-seeing-the-enemy is the biggest bullshit factor. Theres literally 0 player interaction.

>>387779285
>multiplayer online game focused on killing the enemies, playing the objectives and winning
>community servers filled with friendly RP players taunting and mic spamming children, which eventually creep into the official servers, ruining the experience for everyone

>>387779658
>BA rifles only
>all the maps are really tight
idk dude just give me a revolver

I liked BC2's solution for this which was basically snipershotguns with slug ammo

Carl Gustav was a wonderful tool as well, blowing them the fuck out of their hidey holes and nests. A good sniper could still fuck your shit up, but for me it worked for about 90% of the scrubs I encountered

>>387779874
Oh so you're just so underage that you dont remember the times before the "offical" servers.

>>387779285
>>387779517
PAY 5$ A MONTH TO GET EXTRA FEATURES AND GOD MODE!
Yea fuck off
Stupid PC faggots

>>387779874
I only get micspam on micspam-friendly servers

>>387777324
The counterplay to a sniper is literally just walking around because it doesn't do shit close up or alone since he can't be or see everywhere.

>>387779824
try fistful of frags, most guns kill in 1-3 hits, but you have to move very slowly or stand still to hit anything.

melee spammers kind of ruin the gunplay sometimes though

>>387779917
He's not wrong that's how community servers always are
They're about messing around not playing the game
Why the fuck do you think community servers died off on TF2 when Valve added quickmatch?
Because most people just want to play the game, not talk with small children and retards

Battlefield games and their snipers are usually really well balanced. They have weird fucking arcs and nice damage drop off, and they can help the team with their kits beyond just sitting back and trying to get kills.

Best video game sniper is probably bf3s recon.

>>387780024
Holy shit your entire online FPS experience consists of Xbox Live and post-F2P TF2, this is fucking sad

>>387778839
>not fun to play against
>implying there is a sweeter satisfaction than sneaking up on a sniper who refuses to look behind him and getting that one inch headshot

>>387780140
this place truly is filled with underage, they gladly take EA's official servers dick right up their ass and pay for the privilege
this is why multiplayer sucks nowdays since they can get away with it

>>387779874
>>387779920
>>387780024
that's not true at all. there are community servers for everything. that's the great thing about them. i played 1.6 for the first time a couple of months ago, and there were no mic spammers no god mode for money or any of that shit. just people playing the game.
almost my entire playtime in DoD:S was spent on a single server where i got to know people and just played with them.

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>>387780150
>go to knife sniper
>he turns around for no reason and headshots you

>>387779986

That sounds good. I remember really enjoying the Battlegrounds mod, set in the revolutionary war.

>all the guns take several seconds to reload between shots
>so inaccurate you either need to fire in groups, or wait until the enemy is in spitting distance
>any fighting quickly gets shrouded in clouds of smoke
>often it's better to try and impale the enemy on your bayonet than reload

I just want that, with melee that handles like Mount & Blade or Condemned, done on a modern engine.

>>387780257
>underage
tf2 has been f2p for six years
Bad Company 2 is seven years old
people born in 1999 are legal now

>>387780150
Their is pulling out your own sniper and getting a headshot on him

>>387777605
>arguably the Battlefield series.
not even close. snipers in battlefield are the ultimate waste of a server slot, people run to the edge of the map and take potshots are people nowhere near the objective. in battlefield you can tell which team's going to win with 100% accuracy based on which team has fewer snipers/scouts. they generally contribute absolutely nothing to a team and instead sit on a tower or in a hill a mile away from the objective and kill a random person every 5 minutes

>>387779658
Literally Reflex.

>>387780632
But I want to have fun :(

>>387780632
that is true, but that's about as useful as actual snipers are in conventional warfare on an open battlefield. without static, high-profile targets to single out, their role is severely diminished.

so I guess you can blame BF for being too realistic

>>387780738
>useful as actual snipers are in conventional warfare on an open battlefield
yeah, but people don't respawn in real life. if people didn't respawn in battlefield it'd be mildly useful, but they do so they're basically just wasting everybody's time

>>387780632
You forget the cherry ontop: they kill that random person every five minutes and then that person just gets revived by their medic, effectively meaning that sniper did not actually even kill someone.

>>387780150
>sniper has so little awareness that you burn him to death with the repair tool

Battlefield had its moments

That depends on whether you believe balance should take precedence over realism. Most people don't.

>>387777147
the way you fix sniper rifles is you make all the guns actually have actual projectiles.
Also, you make it so that it actually takes some time to scope in. Not a lot, but like half a second.
Also, it's dumb that the scope is always at the center of your crosshair when you scope in. I actually think it should move a little.

>>387780632
We snipers can contribute in battlefield by placing spawn beacons and usually go to building roofs to snipe like on siege of Shanghai

>>387780632
in bf1 whenever im bored sometimes i'll pick a scout that's on the bottom of the leaderboard sitting in the hills and follow him around as support just throwing smoke grenades at him until he leaves, switches classes, or gets closer to the objective

>>387780830
>killing snipers with the MAV

Guaranteed rage

>>387778648
Or just not be a retard and run around in open fields, but if you have to because you get cucked by the circle that's what smoke nades are for.

>>387780903
>tfw half the team have switched to snipers to sit on rooftops with spawn beacons
>tfw you collapse the building covering the map in fart dust
>tfw the whole server gets buttmad

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>>387779952
>quickscopers