What went wrong?

Unity.

Also being locked to nostalgia (which isn't entirely bad, the genre was fun) without using any of the lessons learned since the goddamned N64 was a flagship console.

just lots of bad ideas.
i think it would have turned out better if the worlds were like half the size though.

Kicking out a fatfuck from the voices

Pretty half baked Banjo remake, although a lot of what people bitched about in reviews was either flat out wrong (controls and camera really weren't an issue outside of minigames and if you found the hub world confusing to navigate then you are a fucking retard because it isn't even that big) or shit that they fucking asked for (hurr why do they have stupid voices and grunts and groans wtf I funded this and I love Banjo Kazooie except I've never actually played any of them I'm Jim Sterling).

That being said when the controls and camera were bad they were horrible. The first, fourth and last bosses were downright infuriating and that slide section in the hub world can go fuck itself. Oh yeah and the minecart sections, fuck them.

Overall 7/10 for me. Pick it up on sale.

The people that made it turned out to be SJW faggots.

>>387766574
>inb4 much Jon tron shebacle made it fail
No it didn't. He voiced some random who character who you probably wouldn't even notice it's him voicing because they all talk gibberish. Even if he didn't do the debate and non of that shit happened the game still wouldn't have done well because his fans wouldn't have been the majorit of buyers anyway.

That aside the main reason it failed is because it banked too much in nostalgia. Meaning that while it did bring back the good of the old banjo games and other 3D platformers, it also brought back the bad shit no one liked (like the trivia boss battles) while also failing to add anything new. People were like, oh yeah man 3D platform banjo is back to only then realise that they may not have liked the old game as much as they thought.

>>387766574
I ALREADY forgot this even existed. Way to go, team!

I can't pirate it on Switch yet

>>387766574
The company that published it was called Sold Out, so whenever you went to buy it, it was listed as sold out online.

people can't get over jontron. politics are killing videogames from all sides

>>387766765
>>387767103
Nice samefag
Also,
>fans ask for an exact Banjo remake
>They get it
>wtf I hate Banjo now
The general lack of polish is obvious and >Unity, but come on.

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>>387767261

Things that bugged me the most:
>the sheer overconfidence in making fun of "modern" games, despite this game being total shit itself
>levels were fuckhuge and lacked cohesive design
>hubworld direction made no fucking sense, i genuinely had trouble finding where to go next
>"""smart""" camera in a platformer

"Character" platformers are a flawed conception and not what people really want.

I couldn't beat the minecart boss. Haven't played YL since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxQ54-nNXKU
Since when did the game have pause music? I don't remember this. I only recently stumbled upon it.

>>387767397
>hubworld direction made no fucking sense, i genuinely had trouble finding where to go next
Holy shit like I said earlier you have to be clinically retarded to get lost in that hub world, and there's shit tons of shortcuts as well. Are these the people who hate this game?

>>387767384
>15 posts
>15 unique posters
>samefagging
Whatever you say anon...

>>387767613
I think it was in the recent update.

>>387767384
>>fans ask for an exact Banjo remake
>>They get it

You obviously haven't played either game so go on Youtube and watch a lets play of both games and you'll see the differences right away.

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What was the general consensus of the visuals on this game? The lighting looks kind of strange to me and I feel like the more "flat" look is better suited to cartoony games.

>>387766765
t. non-dev consumer who once heard someone say unity is bad and parrots it incessantly

>>387766574
Nothing. I had a blast playing Yooka-Laylee.

>>387768102
I think it looks amazing for a unity game.

I enjoyed what I played but ended up dropping it. I've been meaning to keep playing.

Grant Kirkhopes music AND sound design made the Banjo Kazooie games what they were and Yooka Laylee only has the music. The sound design is godawful.
>Those terrible squeaky noises the playtonic intro makes
>Yooka's fucking feet make a sort of deflating squeaky sound on ice for some god awful reason
>The sound effects for pretty much all of the fucking transformations
>But zero effort into making the babble speak sound good

They were so fixated on trying to make a 3D collectathon platformer that they never stopped to consider that the genre was never good and died for a reason.

>>387767642
I liked this game and the dark ass doorway hidden in with the pipes in that one spot was putrid world design. It was fucking impossible to see it was there.

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>>387767613
Must've been added in a patch because it was a common complaint.

Damn fine work honestly. It's clear they at least care imo.

>>387766574
I thought it was fun.

>>387766574
Bland, half-baked and empty.

Not better than Banjo-Kazooie, not better than Banjo-Tooie.

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>>387768102
Artstyle is a goddamn mess where you activate a tiki totem/easter island looking thing to bring down a mechanical platform and there's a pig knight and refrigerator NPC within spitting distance of this.

On the prehistoric world.

the level design was poor, is my only major complaint. every world is just a flat circle with some vertical movement.

the biggest and most abrasive offender is the last world; you have a move that literally lets you hit the skybox, yet the entire world is a flat disc with horizontal elevators so you never need to fly.

>>387766574
They rushed a game for whatever reason and thought Banjo and Kazoie can exist in 2016/2017 without refining the original formula

It's one thing to have eyes on everything, characters talking all fucked up, cartoony worlds/characters and collectathanons but they manage to trip up on so many different issues

>Shit controls/camera.
>Shit bosses
>Too many time trial obstacle courses and a good chunck of other things to do in the game feel tedious
>Irrelevant enemies that can hit you THROUGH CUTSCENES
>Characters don't have that same charm BK ones had and they feel out of place in locations
>Hubworlds a mess to navigate through
>Graphics are rough in some places and sharp in others.
>This is random but the overall game has these areas where you run into ledges and you get caught on nooks and crannies without being able to realize them from sight. How can the terrain be so uneven???
>jokes range from the corny/childish that fall flat to ones that don't belong in a kids game (there's smart humor that kids and adults can enjoy alike which Disney can do it but this game isn't as subtle).
>why Yooka has to instantly break into a run is beyond me

Overall, I want to see a sequel to this game with the developers having a better understanding of what can work as both an homage to a classic game and that can refine the Platformers/collect-athon genre. We make fun of Nintendo but they are the masters of polished game design, look at mario games and how meticulously and natural the world is and how moving Mario feels.

>>387767384
>>fans ask for an exact Banjo remake
>>They get it
It's not remotely close to an "exact Banjo remake." Play both back to back. Yooka is not even close.

>>387768102
Yooka's head is too big and his body and limbs are too narrow. He looks awkward.

>>387768114
Name one good Unity game.

>>387766574
>We're going to make a game like the old Banjo Kazooie
>>YAY!
>Here it is
>>WHAT IS THIS? WHY DOES IT FEEL OLD?!

>>387770681
Yooka-Laylee

>>387770681
Yooka-Laylee

>>387767432
yeah that's hardest thing in the game by far. it took a while for me to realize that mines could be exploded by cart shot and i could slow down to help jump over mines

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It got BTFO by snek

>>387770681
Yooka Laylee is the weakest of the 3 but it's still a 7/10.

>>387771998
I wish this game didn't give me motion sickness.

>>387766574
it turned out to be disappointing, because even if revived the game genre, it also revived the same bad moments from back then.

Also because it was a game made 4 the fans and by the fans ONLY, all the rest of world who aren't Rare's widows probably didn't understand the game as a whole.

They wanted this game to have the charm of another game, instead of building it's own.

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I just couldn't compete

(former) Happy Video Game Nerd had a pretty good video explaining what went wrong with this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeU1bSsLerM

>>387766574
they thought they could slap together a 3d platformer in unity, add some references to actually good games, and call it a day

Uninspired.

The two MCs were really shitty designs and the world was not any fun to look at or be in.

That the core of a game like this. Its why BK is amazing, its why people love Spyro, its why people love Crash, its why Conker is the best game ever. Platformers/Collectathon games need to have cool characters and a well-designed and fun world.

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>>387770681
Yo Noid 2

>>387772847
The controls in Snake Pass are horrendous though.

>>387773842
Don't forget about the bullshit collectables that do nothing and just make the (platforming?) more aggravating to get through AND DONT FUCKING SAVE AUTOMATICALLY. WHY DO I HAVE TO RECOLLECT EVERYTHING THAT DOES NOTHING YOU FUCKS.

when I realized how pointless the collectables are in a game that's pissed me off with how fickle the controls are, i wanted to have the devs executed by firing squad Every bullet representing every second wasted.

>>387766765
Nothing to do with not learning from N64 generation, more like it IGNORED the N64 generation. From what I gathered from lets plays and trailers, and reviews, the levels are empty (complete opposite of the genre is spawned from), the characters lack a real personality, and the gameplay doesn't feel very satisfying.

We wanted Banjo-Kazooie
We got Banjo-Tooie instead

>>387773543
>its why Conker is the best game ever
For the writing?

Because it was a terrible as fuck platformer.

Levels were boring
lighting sucked
characters meant literally nothing to me
overworld was mediocre

>>387766574

Controls and camera were worse than nostalgia games.

You ruin the controls for a platform, you ruined the game... you can tell they know they fucked up, just look at the si lo of platforms in YL vs BK. Bigger platforms means giving the player more chance to fuck up, which wasn't hard when the character is so floatie

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>>387770681
>Name one good Unity game.

>>387768114
>t. indie gayme "dev"

>>387773842
Git gud, fag

>>387775231
this

>>387766574
The game was bad. It wouldve been preferable that the game was good

>>387766928
You missed out Sterling complaining that the combat was too easy, as you only had to push one button to win, except when it doesn't work for some reason.
Even if you ignore that he likes musou, platformers are never about combat, and that it's clearly telegraphed when you need to use sonar shot instead of the spin atack.

>>387767103
I liked Grunty's Furnace Fun, and I think one Quackfire Quiz would have been okay, as Capital B stalling for time, but three was really pushing it.

ALso I still don't understand where people had camera control issues outside the Rampo fight, or people that say the hubworld is hard to navigate through. The only bit that's slightly hidden is the entrance for MMM, which is in a water section just after you get a breathe underwater move

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>bad Camera
>Few worlds
>People are too lazy or have ADHD to get into the magic of collectaton games
>OST is good but I expected more from a team of two great composers
>Main hub is shitty in comparison to banjo games
>Yooka looks female and yooka sounds like a female name.
>Bosses are shit.
>no eyelashes for laylee
>Why no try a female-female duo?
>no songs with ukelele

I liked the tonics
Too bad, devs barely improved anything.

>>387766574
Shit design, shit controls. That's pretty bad.

>>387777937
The set up for Planette was really good.

>four complaints about them not being female, or looking female enough
>Not mentioning the Knights of Hamalot being shit once

It was decent. I feel like 40 dollars was a bit too expensive for what was there, and I'm one of the people who actually had fun and liked this game.
Here's hoping the devs learn from their mistakes in twooka laylee.

>>387766574
not Rare enough

>>387766574
What went wrong?
No JonTron.

>>387766574
The characters are shit.
A bear and a bird is funny.

A fucking chameleon and bat doesn't make any fucking sense.

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four big points:

1. levels were way too big and not laid out coherently. couple this with...

2. things in earlier levels being inaccessible without future moves you get later, and you've got a nightmare scenario where you've already been everywhere in a level trying to collect as much as possible and you don't remember which areas have the thing you are missing. or alternatively you've got one thing missing to 100% a level but you've been everywhere and trying to find it with all these tiny areas besides the main zone is a total chore.

3. the energy bar has no purpose outside of challenges. why even make it a thing when you are exploring the levels and the hub? it only acts as a nuisance and doesn't add any difficulty otherwise. let me travel around freely with this game's version of talon trot.

4. probably the worst thing, the fact that later in the game you unlock a move that lets you fly anywhere with no limitation. in banjo kazooie it made sense, you needed a pad, and to get the pads to appear, you had to play through a level normally to unlock them. in yooka-yaylee you just have it at all times, completely negating any reason to do any skilled platforming. just fly wherever. fuck it.

i was so excited for this game, and i tried so hard to love it. i can get a lot of enjoyment out of platformers that are less than stellar, but this game just isn't fun to play.

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>>387766574
Didn't mind it.

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>>387772847
this game was so fun, and just the right length as well. everyone who cries about the controls just needs to try to play it a little bit longer. getting good at controlling the snake is very satisfying.

>>387781939
Number 2 is why they have the hunter tonic, unless it's the isometric palace piece of shit. plus it's been patched to last 30 quillies now instead of 10-20 I can't remember what it was before

The energy bar they had to because of invincibility.

The fly anywhere move is mainly so you can bactrack easier, it expects you to have already done shit like gloomy glacier before you know there will be a flying move later.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOQCltgX3xM

it's a fucking children's game
why wold you try to judge it based on adult sensibilities?

>>387782279
Are you srs here?

I was surprised how fucking mad the game me.

For example.
First phase of the final boss i go through the natural process if elimination. But for some reason the attack didn't register. So i start looking for alternatives around the room. Go through every ability again, doesn't register. So i look up a youtube video and realize i already found the answer but it didnt feel like working.
Think that makes me happy? It doesn't.

Also that boss in the casino world where you have to ride that fuckface mine cart? That fucking boss pissed me off. That minecart fuck, fuck you.

Also the game felt very short, maybe banjo was as well, i don't remember.

>>387782460
Banjo had more worlds, but were far more compact and could be completed first try.

Also what do you mean the attack didn't register, did he not fall over for you when you attacked him?

>>387766574
The patch fixed a lot of stuff. Seems they do care about their game.

>>387782378
> didnt even answer the question
i see you too afraid to give a reasonable answer about why youre arguing over a literal child's game
typical of this board

I think the jontron shit was intentional so they could have an excuse to blame poor sales on.

>>387782730
No, I meant how can it be a game for kids if adults were the ones who crowdfunded it?

>>387782752
Nope.

>>387782730
Dude kids don't play shit like that. It's too childish for them. They play Call of Duty.

Literally the only guys who play it are 20,30 somethings who still have nostalgia from Banjo Kazooie.

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>>387767103
It's not hard to forget a voice, but Jon's is memorable. He makes unintelligible noises all the time. The dialogue has been brought back, and release and pre-release are linked below for the fuck of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVs4QabxpcA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=req-W-V1bNk

>>387782974
because kids dont have money to waste?
that aside the game is written for children, regardless of who funded or bought it
before kickstarter, it was old men who funded games - were those games aimed at old men too? no they werent

>>387783206
if old men wanna play kids games IT'S UP TO THEM
it's still a kid's game with material aimed at kid demographics and gameplay only kids would enjoy

>>387770681
Hollow Knight
Ori and the Blind Forest
Furi
Shadowrun: Dragonfall
Pillars of Eternity

>>387783569
They are all shit m8

>>387783435
Normal investors don't play the games they invest in, with crowdfunding it is the backers who are the primary audience.

>>387783435
Dude saying that only kids play kids games is like saying that only racers play racing games, business owners play simulation games or soldiers play war games.

It is a genre just like any else and some like the innocent and lightheartedness of it.

>>387783346
>The dialogue has been brought back
Are you shitting me? JonTron is back in the game??

>>387766574
Laylee not being the one to produce the Bubble Buddy.

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>>387771998
>red touching yellow