Why are women allowed to fight for Caesar?

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Because the bear can smell their periods

It's just a guy with a nice ass.

Because Caesar is allowed to hire his own mercenaries if he so desires

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prove him wrong

House>NCR>>>Independent>>>>>>>>>>Legion

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>>387761584
Why? He backpeddles immediately after he says it

>>387761820
He means to say there's always exceptions but the general rule of thumb is that women suck ass

>>387761584
depends on the needs of society, and if women meet the minimum standards to accomplish a task, they should. Its every persons role to contribute. Not every man will be strong enough to meet the standards of a navy seal, some women might even outperform some men physically. You set a standard based on societal needs. If your society decides that breeding as many children as possible is its primary need, then using all women for childbearing is the obvious answer, otherwise it doesnt matter.

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>>387761820
>worthy use

do legionfags not love their moms?

>>387762069
my mummy is the only roastie i love

>>387762069
It's doubtful they even know who their mothers are

Caesar is about results and he established the rules of the legion to get those results. If the PC walks up as a woman of obvious incredible ability then an exception will be made.

>>387762069
In their society the legion is their family and if their mothers are given any thought it's probably more for thought on breed quality or the respect that their birth mother produced a proud son of the legion.

Why are Legionnaires dying to women, I thought they were superior?

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>>387762501
>Caesar is about results and he established the rules of the legion to get those results.

>>387761584
>Be a female courier in the Mojave.
>Get shot in the head and have your delivery stolen.
>After a series of events you find yourself at the Legions Camp and have Caesar himself present you with a task.
>You then met meet the shit-for-brains ferryman who thinks you are inferior to him.
>Prove yourself to be an important asset to Caesar and the Legion, flying up the ranks to become one of his best agents.
>Make a humble request for your own personal tent suitably equipped for one of the Legions best.
>Also make mention of the retard Cursor and how you would much prefer him as your personal slave.
>Cursor Lucullus spends the rest of his days as the Courier's foot rest.
>After walking for miles in the Mojave heat (wishing for a nucular winter) you force Lucullus tend to your sweat "inferior" feet by rubbing and licking them.
>You then blissfully spend your evenings reading reports while sitting on his face as he struggles for air.

>>387762826
>extremely prosperous and rapidly expanding

>>387762826
>and have a stable society of about the same size as the ncr

hmm... really thinking now

>>387762987
In Cali, the NCR homeland, things are pretty good there and NV is literally about NCR expanding.

>>387762826
Those results being a common background culture for a new society to grow fromafter washing old loyalties away, he saw the main weakness of the NCR as everyone still had tribal loyalties and couldn't come together.

>>387761980
This

>>387763067
There's a draft on, there's no lakes, there's no jobs and they're heading for a famine in the next decade. NV is about NCR trying to take the one thing that will slow their impending implosion.

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>>387761820
I bet you're a woman.

>>387761316
For the same reason the Brotherhood accepts you as part of their ranks, despite the fact that the ENTIRE VERONICA SIDEQUEST is about how they're willing to go extinct before adapting by, among other things, recruiting outsiders.

You're chosen one as fuck in New Vegas.

>>387763067
NV is about the NCR expanding and when you scratch the surface it's because their society is mismanaged and needs growth to not fall apart

>>387762826
Democracy will always will be a mistake
House or the Legion are the only hope for the wasteland

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>>387763554
>hope for the wasteland
nah

>>387763554
House is efficient but needs everything under his control to maintain that efficiency and ultimately ends up limited in scope and stagnating, he's be better off as a high ranking official or as a nation leader in a confederacy

>>387763531
Why would anyone even want to join the Brotherhood of Cucks? Courier takes absolutely no shit from no one and any group or person that wronged him (like the Khans or that faggot Benny) are on a kill list. I zapped every single tin can while putting a bullet in all scribes and knights and then detonating their faggoty ass club house.

>>387763741
>implying House won't get the Van Graffs and Gun Runners to upgrade his Securitrons with flamers and floodgate beam lights.

What was the Legion's policy on mutants?

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>>387763554
>Legion
>only hope
>A faction that will fall apart when Caesar dies which won't be long
>only hope

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>>387763793
It's not just them. Everyone goes out of character/full retard in order to kiss the ground your courier walked on.

>Be house
>Be 200+ years old
>Live in impregnable fortress casino
>Your mailman got his ass shot in the head, you save his life
>clearly this means he's trustworthy.
>Let's let in this dangerous, brain damaged and heavily armed mercenary into my inner sanctum, what could possibly go wrong? It's not like this will make him a person of interest to every faction in the wastes, or that he may choose to betray me.

>>387763531
The BoS accepts you because there's a precedent set for accepting insanely talented outsiders, IE. The Vault Dweller and Chosen One

There is literally no discrepancy between their refusal to accept common wasteland scum and upholding decades old tradition regarding wasteland demigods

>>387763907
Van Graffs would jew him so hard on flamer fuel he would kick them out of freeside, and if they take over literally the whole wasteland like Ulysses prophesied, then the Strip and freeside would eventually run out of supplies.

>>387763949
Probably not much because their retarded ideology of shunning advanced weapons means having major problems with dangerous mutants like Deathclaws and Super Mutants, A Super Mutant can easily beat the fuck out of a group of legionaires while shrugging off their pathetic hunting rifle and 9mm pellets.

>>387764128

There's also precedents for distributing technology among wastelanders to aid the region in becoming prosperous, that doesn't mean shit.

Veronica wasn't asking for every waster to be allowed in, she was asking for a) To be open to the possibility of working with wastelanders, and b) to be open to the possibility of cooperating with existing factions. In her questline, she is denied flat out.
But along comes Desert Jesus Courier and oooh boy, let's do everything he asks of us, even if it's the same shit we told veronica to fuck off over.

>>387764092
Except House doesn't necessarily consider you trustworthy when you meet him, just that you're capable. He remains tight-lipped about his plans until you work for him, and trust builds over time, which makes total sense. Also one would assume that one guy fresh out of the wastes wouldn't be able to take down multiple heavily-armed Securitrons by himself, and by all logic you probably shouldn't be able to, but it's a fucking video game.

>>387764092
>be House
>betrayed by idiot protégé
>find one ultracompetent person in the entire wasteland is also technically your employee
>have no other option but to go all or nothing on trying to get them on side because nothing is going according to plan

>>387764092
House is probably the most likely canon ending because he never fucks you over. You are a continued employee for him unlike a dog for the NCR or Legion. Let him cuck the NCR with debt so we can be in orbit in 50 years.

>>387764187
I'm not so sure about that, I looted quite a few anti-material rifles and C4s off of Legion assassins.

>>387764338
>Except House doesn't necessarily consider you trustworthy when you meet him, just that you're capable.
Even worse. He let someone he DIDN'T consider trustworthy into his fortress, despite the fact that no one had ever been allowed inside. Which again, made the courier a person of interest of every faction looking to fuck House over. It was an idiotic move and 9 times out of 10 the reason he fails.

>>387764339
If he'd just had a robot take the chip and paid you a ton of cash, he'd have gotten the same result with none of the risk.

>>387761584
He's absolutely right, and I'm not even siding with the legion either.

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>>387764187
>Caesar's most trusted commanders are the centurions: battle-hardened front-line officers who dress in patchwork armor pierced together from their fallen foes.
>The parts appear to be:
>Helmet of a super mutant brute, polished and with a centurion's frill.
>Chest piece of a super mutant's armor.

>>387764494
That's because they were sent after a Josua Graham and Ulysses type target, meaning very fucking dangerous. So no shit the assassin's would be armed with their probably only best and most advanced armaments. However the whole of the Legion is using machetes, spears and single barrel shotguns. Does fucking nothing to mutants.

>>387764525
House doesn't trust anyone, that's how he is. And it's either bet on a stranger, or sit in your pod and do nothing while Benny takes the securitrons for himself and goes to war with the other factions, none of which will have any problems with pulling your plug.

>>387764525
A Mk1 Securitron wasn't going to do shit. House NEEDS a human operative to get things done for him, one of his dwindling supply of subpar murderbots couldn't deal with the BoS, the Boomers or infiltrate the Fort.

why doesn't house just send his securitrons to go arrest benny for stealing his property?

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>>387764736
Have you even played the game? He literally tells you why.

>>387764590
That doesn't mean much considering a Centurion could have used half a legion company to kill that Mutant. Which was probably armed with only a sledgehammer but still more than capable of killing the underequipped Legionaries.

>>387764525
If he'd just had a robot take the chip
Benny has the chip, and House tells you himself that a Securitron breaking down the door of a casino would end in a revolt from the families of the strip, which he obviously doesn't want right outside his doorstep, especially because he then has no way to actually use the chip - a Securitron isn't going to make it into the Legion-controlled bunker.

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>>387764736
>Why don't you send your robots into the Tops to arrest Benny?
>Frontal assaults on casinos? Not good for business.
>In any case, Benny would see it coming. And all he'd have to do is hold the Chip up and point a pistol at it.
>Our foremost advantage is that Benny doesn't know that I know he has the Chip - let's not squander it.

>>387764665

Betting on a stranger doesn't mean inviting him, heavily armed and brain damaged, into your home. He could collect the chip easily without letting you inside his fortress and continue to deal with you remotely. This would have not only allowed him to be safer since his fortress remains impregnable, but his mailman would also not be the target of bribes and recruitment offers from every faction in the wasteland.

>>387764818
>If he'd just had a robot take the chip
Take the chip off YOUR HANDS, numbnuts. When you finish the quest, before he lets you into his house.

>>387764832
>>387764897
So the better option is to have the conversation with a talking robot in the middle of a heavily-populated street? Yeah, that won't draw any attention at all. And there's still the issue of him not being able to use the chip, and asking someone to charge into legion territory to do your bidding without even meeting you would be stupid, no one in their right mind would accept.

>>387764832
It's also not going to endear you to him in any way. Making you the first person to step foot in the Lucky 38 in 200 years, giving you the Presidential Suite, taking you into his confidence, it's all meant to massage your ego. And its his own ego's way of admitting, indirectly, that he's desperate and sorely needs your help despite the way he talks to you.

There's no real faction for violent savages that are only interested in chems, caps and cunts. Yes Man isn't a faction.

>>387764819
that's dumb, if benny is that paranoid he would do the same thing when he sees the person he shot in the head coming towards him

also why would benny destroy the chip if he doesn't even know house knows he has it

>>387765101
There's the Khans and by extent the Legion, though theme are for profligate to them and thus the Khans are liquidated once absorbed into the Legion.

>>387765007
Yeah, the person who controls most of new vegas is incapable of having a private conversation without opening his own asshole. Very smart, mr genius house.

>and asking someone to charge into legion territory to do your bidding without even meeting you would be stupid
First off, HE DOESN'T MEET YOU. You still talk to a screen. And secondly, you don't go because he's your friend. He offers you compensation, whether you meet his screen inside his sanctum or somewhere else should make no difference.

>>387765101
Theres a pack of raider if I remember right. I alway blow their head off though

>>387765157
Because Benny's aware House knows how valuable the chip is. Benny would assume the Courier has no idea what the chip does (which is correct) so why would he use it as leverage?

You're a retard.

>>387765070
>It's also not going to endear you to him in any way
I'm sure a ton of cash and a private suit in the hotel of your choosing would have endeared most mercenaries to him almost as much, especially since House already saved your life in the first place.
Whether you think it's a logical move or not, it's still the reason he fails in almost every ending where he fails.

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How many for the kids?

>>387765209
How do you even work that into a character, you're a Khan taken on as some Legion agent?

>>387765212
So how do you have a private conversation with a giant talking robot, retard?
And talking through a screen > talking through a mass-produced robot
I never mentioned that he was your friend, I said that the trust builds over time, to counter that anon's point about having someone you don't know/trust working for you, learn to read.

>>387765157
Because Benny doesn't know you're working for House, he only knows that someone he shot and left for dead has come looking for revenge.

And if a bunch of Securitrons barge into the Tops and demand that Benny come with them, he's pretty obviously going to assume it has something to do with the item he's just stolen from his employer. There would be no other reason for those robots to be there, trying to bring him in.

>>387765358
Well the Khans are only joining the Legion as a big fuck you to the NCR so imagine it as you getting the chance to fuck up NCR shit. Though realistically a drugged up Kahn nigger would make a horrible agent for such a sophisticated faction blame Shitthesda for giving Obsidian only 13 months to make a game that only has a fraction of what was in store for Van Buren.

>>387765157
Why would he assume you want the chip instead of assuming you want revenge? He shoots the chip, you still put a bullet in his brain because he did the same to you.

>>387765523
I'm imagining as a Great Khan you're trying to earn Caesar's favor, but still maintaining the Khan's independence

>>387761584
He is not wrong. Just look at Sweden.

>>387763741
>thinking Avellone's fanfic is canon

>>387762995
>and it all comes crashing down after Cesare dies just like all empires that rapidly expand through conquest

>just like Alexander
>just like Attila
>just like Genghis

really gets you thinking...

>>387765687
There is no independence for the Legion, once a Tribe is assimilated all of it's past culture is erased and liquified within the Legion. Just like that large Tribe the Legion swallowed and destroyed to learn to make Bitter Drink. They'd definitely not preserve the Khans for being chem cooking degenerates.

>>387761980
No, women suck dick.

>>387765832
Well Bethesda are the only ones making Fallout games from now on, and I sure as shit don't consider them canon.

>>387765858
gay

>>387765842
>just like Genghis
The Mongol Empire continued to expand after Genghis Khan's death though, and survived another 4 generations after his death.

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what the fuck is going in in h&h tools? i gleaned that it was run by Houses insane brother or cousin or some shit. does the House family have a history of mental illness?

>>387765842
You see those empires were based on an ideology and not on one man. Every single Tribe in Arazona and New Mexico views Caesar as some immortal God Emperor with lesser gods following him. Once he keels over from his brain cancer the Tribes will know he isn't a good and take the chance on being independant again, sure Lanius will butcher them back into submission and assert himself as the new Emperor through fear but he'd kill too many that the Legion would be too weak to defend their territories from different raider tribes like the 80's or their sworn enemy the NCR.

>>387765857
Right, but the Khans don't know that. Teaching Papa Khan that fact is part of Oh My Papa.

>>387765857
Then I can't really think of how a savage junkie would fit in the Legion

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>>387761980
>women suck ass
Hell yeah they do!

>>387766297
> Any employee seen to be cohabitating, colluding, or cogitating with any of the following groups will be terminated immediately: foreigners, Masons, carpenters, Tragic players, illegal aliens, extraterrestrials or the Flemish.

Anthony House seems like an okay guy to me

>>387765842
Except one is an empire and one is a cult of personality using the aesthetic of an empire.

>>387766297
Anthony House and Robert House were half-brothers. Anthony House stole Robert House's inheritance, H&H Tools, leaving him with nothing. Robert House built himself up and founded RobCo, becoming insanely wealthy. He then used this massive wealth to buy out the stock of H&H Tools until he owned it outright.

The whole experience of watching his half-brother go from nobody to national mogul, then buying out his company from underneath him drove Anthony House insane.

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someone tell me why i shouldn't just fat man the Khans and the White Glove Society out of existence

>>387766725
The Khans are more useful suiciding against the Legion at Hoover Dam and most of the White Gloves are actually reformed and sticking to their contract

>>387766725
Because the Khans survive like the fucking cockroaches they are. Better to let them join the Legion only to liquified from within. Seriously gunning them down does not work
>Khans
>New Khans
>Great Khans
They're like fucking weeds of Fallout.

>>387766725
because the khans have the second best ammo shop in the game and dont really do anything other than that
its not like they send out hitsquads and shit, you dont get anything from nuking them, they just cease to exist

im about to start NV all over again, which side should i pick this time and why?

>slaughter everyone at cottonwood cove and nelson
>caesar invites me to come talk to him
really activates my almonds

>>387766725
Cause I need another hit of Jet, don't do it man or I'll fuckin gut you like a gecko

>>387767043
house because your character is gay for him

>>387767007
No the Khans continue to exist. Their slide should you choose to cull them for being the pieces of shit that helped Benny shoot you talks about "those who survived" went up to the Rockies of Colorado. The Khans are more resilient than roaches and common cold.

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>>387767063
>slaughter everyone at cottonwood cove and nelson
>caesar invites me to come talk to him
>smash his skull into a meatpaste with my supersledge

>>387767109
what if i just side with myself and kill everyone?

>>387767314
Then you will get bored very quickly

>>387767157
Is there anything to the Great Khans that doesn't come down to
>Theft
>Chem dealing and using
?

>>387767314
you can't do the best ending everytime, whats the point

>>387763741
I kinda wanna fuck one of these.

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>>387766871
>Survive the Dweller
>Survive the Chosen One
>Survive the NCR pushing them out of their territory
>Survive House and the three Families pushing them out of Vegas
>Survive Bitter Springs
You're right, Legion assimilation is literally the only thing that would get rid of them.

>>387767350
>Theft
They're raiders. They don't just steal, they kill for the fun of it too. Rather, they do it for fun but try to dress it up as hitting back at the oppressive NCR.

>>387762826
>innocent people

>>387762826
lol the only reason NCR likes me is because that idiot vulpes dares me to do something about it when i arrive at nipton.

>>387764590
The right arm's from a t-40, from the looks of it

>>387767369
that's gay
fucking deathclaws is patrician choice

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>>387767430
>mfw the Legion is a glorified roach hotel

>>387767530
It seems like the normie thing now that there are deathclaw sfms and posters popping up left and right

>>387762820
Everybody is weak to fully automatic rifles, no matter who is on the other end

>>387767430
Don't forget
>survive the NCR Bitter Springs raid
>survive the Couriers one man assault at Red Rock Canyon
I Don't understand how they managed to survive my attack because I made sure any Kahn even fucking Bitter Root died by my hand. Even the fucking children because I killed all the boomers so how do these fucks survive my massacre?

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>>387767492
>if you feel so strongly about it then attack me, and soon you won't feel anything at all

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>>387767530

>>387767621
but NCR troopers don't get automatic rifles, they're semi-auto

>>387763435
Well, that's just a fact of living in southern california and not reflective of the NCR's policies. There's nowhere near enough water to support a large population in that region, which is one of the reasons they want lake mead.

>>387761316
Presumably because Caesar is a pragmatist. Ideologically speaking, the Legion might maintain that Women are best suited laying on their backs. In practice though, should an exceptionally gifted woman come along, they'd do well not to turn away the help, doubly so considering their enemy is a stone's throw away and taking any able body.

>>387767829
Everybody is also weak to service rifles, especially if their armor is FUCKING FOOTBALL PADS, you snide cuck.

>>387767769
I want to bury my face in her puss.

>>387767865
But if they drain lake mead and the Colorado river from their gross over consumption what then? Utah, Oregon and Washington are infested with tribals.

>>387767865
The lakes are dry because NCR drained them down to the aquifers. They did it to themselves.

>>387767974
>he's weak to .223 tummy ticklers
Come back when its .308 aka 7.62 REAL FUCKIN NATO

>>387767974
hey its not just football pads
they also have coyote heads and dinner plates

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>>387767769
Clothes are for homosexuals

>>387767974
Is there any mod that properly balances this? Anything above 10mm and the type of gun like cowboy repeater or 308. Sniper rifle should just fucking kill every legionaire or any raider not wearing the proper armor.

>>387767694
that is exactly mfw, and as annoying as it is sometimes i really like the fact that factions will send out hit teams for you when you piss them off, new vagus just feels more alive because of it, make survival mode shine with random ambushes instead of just knowing area specific respawns

>>387768314
if you want you can just set every legion armor to like 3 dt max pretty easily in the geck

>>387761584
He's not wrong. Ideally, men protect and provide for their wives, wives care for their husbands and and their children. Any culture or people that strays from this time-proven method are wiped out in less than a century, this is proven because all successful empires in history had strong family values, while peoples and cultures that didn't remained dirt-stupid nomadic tribes.

>>387767769
is that the minotaur thing from doom

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>>387768756
no

>>387768314
Properly balances what? It's an RPG, it's already balanced around the stats. If you want to go full autistic "but it's not realistic!" then basically none of the armours in game would accomplish anything. Only Combat, Ranger and Power Armour are designed to stop bullets.

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>>387767974
>Caesar said plate carriers reduce the chance of dying from thunder-sticks
>Me got just the thing

>>387768892
Why is it wearing lipstick