Team Fortress 2

I want quickplay to return and for the e-sports meme to die.

Bring back autobalance since levels don't do jack shit and circlejerk pubstomp parties infest every pub

>tf2 update in CURRENT YEAR
>any fucking hope whatsoever
it'll be shit and you know it

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>>387757679
I honestly just want it to be over.

I'm also worried with the latest blog post that says "We've had lots of great feedback from the community about the changes and we really appreciate it. Thanks!"

I bet those fuckers won't even nerf the Dead Ringer and the embassador. Fuck man, my hope is fading away.

>>38775767
good balanced

Abolish casual MM. No-one asked for it or wanted it, it came along with ranked MM and destroyed the server browser and community servers.

Reset ranks and give rewards for level ups

>>387760956
> I bet those fuckers won't even nerf the dead ringer and ambassador

both of those are getting massive nerfs.

How to save TF2

>abolish random crits and random damage spread
>abolish casual MM
>fix ranked MM so it's a simple ELO system based on normal 6s, with queuing for 2xscout/2xsoldier/demo/medic, 5cp only
>remove all unlocks except for kritz/ubersaw/crossbow/basher
>fix performance problems and bugs
>improve STV/replay system
>get actual devs working on it
>remove bright coloured cosmetics and all halloween items

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>>387763070
>abolish random crits
Stop posting any time.

tf2 is turning 10 years old this october, I'm assuming this is when they'll drop the next major update

>>387763070
What's wrong with the replay system? Does it use up a lot of resources?

>>387757679
>Update when?
the anniversary of Quake Team Fortress

>>387763070
>>abolish random crits
let me guess, you spam a bind every time you get killed by one, but keep your fat mouth shut whenever you kill someone with a random crit

>>387763745
Noobs like you killed TF2.

>>387763070
>>abolish random crits and random damage spread
nah
how about you abolish your inability to dodge and git gud

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>that feel when people still get upset seeing you taunting in the killcam
How do these people function

>>387763745

>tfw crits don't mean shit to the vaccinator

>>387764179
If you don't taunt after every single sniper kill then you're not really playing TF2, you're just pretending.

>>387763745
>>387764049
>>387764132

Modern /v/ everyone, casuals to a man.

>>387757679
I hope they fix the Flamethrower so the flames actually match the hitbox.

>>387764408
>call you out for bitching about random crits only when killed by crits like the giant faggot you are
>y-you're a casual for calling out my hypocrisy
jump off a bridge shitter.

>>387764179

>Never say anything in chat or even taunt much to begin with
>People still get extremely butthurt from being killed over and over, constantly talking shit in chat to someone who never replies back

Why do TF2 players have such fragile egos, they end up getting killed over and over in part to their own shortcomings and mistakes and then try to talk a bunch of shit about how they're so much better just to save face.

>>387764408
Blow me b4nny

>>387764408
Melee weapons are balanced around crits, you have to let melee crits stick around

>>387764529
Why? Melee weapons are just for when you run out of ammo, and the unlocks should all be removed anyway.

>>387764483
>guy in casual level 150
>abuses dead ringer like a chump
>always tries to go for trickstabs
>extremely obvious
>every time I kill him he makes an excuse as to why he was killed
>dominate him
>rage quits after failing to kill me
I seriously do not fucking understand all the massive egos in this game, I think this guy has pub stomped for so long, that simply fighting someone better than him made him throw a spastic fit.

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KNOW THIS

>>387764591

Yeah I guess so, pubstompers tend to think they're the greatest shit ever.

Remove medic uber

>>387764954
I mean, I've been pubstomping since 2007, but even I know I probably won't stand a chance against someone like that faggot b4nny
I just never saw the purpose of thinking i'm hot shit, you do that and people will then target you on purpose. I would know I target people who act high and mighty just to put them in their place.

>>387764591
>before mym
>dominate pubstomper
>he goes to spectate and reenters his team to remove the domination
Fuck these niggers

>>387765096

Well there can actually be a benefit to being targeted over others and is sort of a hidden benefit of getting dominations. When people start getting dominated or killed repeatedly they may start falling into the habit of tunnel visioning on you, it can be problematic, but it can also be beneficial as they set themselves up for getting flanked or weakened by other teammates or ignoring objectives. All depends on how well you can handle it and your team.

>>387765203

I've seen that shit so many times, how fucking asshurt do you have to be to do that.

>>387765203
holy shit that was way too fucking common
YOU CAN WIPE AWAY THE ICON BUT YOU CAN'T WIPE AWAY MY COUNTER OR THE SHAME

>that feel when go melee heavy and still manage to kill people
Some of the most fun I've had in an FPS

>>387764567
>remove all unlocks
what? why? they add another layer to gameplay

i stopped caring about TF2 after MyM, it hasn't improved at all and they haven't brought back valve servers for ez pubstomping

>>387757679
skial is shit, anything that's not 24 players is shit

>>387766293
Maybe the first round or two of unlocks did, but the vast majority of weapons since have polluted the game and make class matchups a confusing mess.

>>387767418
*64 players
ftfy

>>387767418

I hate any server that has more than 24 max players or instant respawn, even worse if both at the same time, it just turns into a clusterfuck where you can't really get anything done.

>partyvan's down
p a n i c

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>>387768286
>32 player
>instant respawn
>Junction only

>>387757679
Dead game. Pyro update was supposed to come during summer but it's nowhere to be found. Also they don't even have plans for the 10th anniversary of the game and probably no Halloween update.

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>tf2 is nearly 10 years old
>bootybothered faggots STILL cry about crits

Enough tears to drown the world three times over by now. You have your safe spaces where the big scary random damage can't get you, fookin' stay there and let the rest of us have fun.

>>387763070
Fuck off Esportsfag

Why is symmetrical/5cp so unpopular?

>>387770190
because in the span of 10 years people still haven't learned the layout for 5cp maps or the meta for them

>>387769842
Crits just suck because they favor demos and soldiers so much more over other classes. If crit rockets and nades sill had damage falloff (at least in the splash damage) it wouldn't be so bad.

>>387764408
tf2 is a casual game
>muh 6s

>>387769842
>fookin'

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>>387770420
Y'see this is a genuine bit of contention

>>387763070
>ban everything except what i like

i like casual i like playing soldier sniper and pyro
i love tf2

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>>387771118

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WHEN THE FUCK IS THE NEW COMIC COMING

i just want the new mantreads

>>387763070
>how to fix tf2

>destroy their economy by getting rid of hats

How to euthanize TF2*

>>387759009
This

>>387771363
i hate cosmetics bronies and furries

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>>387772161
I like you alot, anon

>>387763070
>sure that's a good idea. crits aren't balanced. a crit rocket or sticky can end a push. a crit shotgun kills one guy
>don't care
>don't care
>fuck off
>okay
>okay
>okay
>I'd say allow players to disable them

>>387772409
>some players disable crits
>others dont

advantages all around everyone

>close match
>playing great as demo
>air pills, getting lots of damage on people
>leading push to mid
>spy backcaps last
>engineer was busy upgrading his dispenser and didn't notice
>didn't have a sentry up

Why are some players so damn useless

>>387770190
I am sick of fucking payload. Scout is useless on almost every payload map.

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>>387771625

>>387771625
It probably won't be this year. Even though Pinkerton (who wrote the comics) is gone, he claimed that the script was already finished before his departure, so it should come eventually.

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>>387772341
thanks you too anon

>>387763070
>no
>no
>no
>no
>yes
>yes
>yes
>divided
You can't just take cosmetics from people.
>be valve
>remove cosmetics
>people start asking for refunds
>refuse
>world on fire, valve office attacked by riots
>badda bing badda boom
I would gladly take out cosmetics who make no sense but vqlve can't just take them away from the autusts who have them.

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>>387771625
I laughed more than i should.

>>387771625
we in 2017, he in 3017

>>387772682
> scout is useless on every payload map

depending on the circumstances, scout works just fine. You either sit on the cart or do an epic job harassing the enemy.

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*blocks your medium healthkit*

>>387774463
stop

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>>387774463
>trying to defend
>friendly heavy at the spot where I need my sentry
>build it and voice-command "Go! Go! Go!" so he can get out safely
>the fucker punches it down just as his teammates are coming in to kill me

>retire from tf2 from many years
>life takes over
>see talk about tf2 years later
>it's like looking at a foreign lifeform i used to know
i can't describe how bad or good i feel right now

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>>387763070
>after ten years people bitch and moan about crits and random spread

Im sure people by now should know better but fuck me, are you a scout main or something? Aside from Spies mains Scouts are the next in the tier of bitching about crits

>>387774982
ok

>>387775532
this

>>387763070
No

>>387776131
this

>>387774428
Scout can be pretty great in payload. The maps are usually huge with multiple paths so it's very easy to flank people. I've never had much luck on the cart though. Having to stand relatively still for long periods as Scout doesn't end well unless the other team is retarded.

>>387762491
This. Although I wouldn't reset the ranks, just give a number of items equal to the current rank everybody reached and put a higher level cap.

>>387760956
what makes dead ringer and ambassador so op? i've never been fucked hard by either

>>387764179
i literally will just taunt after every kill just to get reactions out of people lol

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>join game
>run out of spawn
>play rocket man or demo
>first rocket/pipe/sticky is a crit
>shits on one or two people
>valve thinks im a good boy and they give me another one
haha I dont see why people complain about this

>>387764179
>Kill someone
>Voice command "thanks"

>>387776564
I got a sequence of three random crits once, with Soldier on Barnblitz.
And then a fourth one after some seconds. I was afraid someone was going to call me hacker.

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Hey /v/,
yore
ugleh

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>>387776564
>playing turbine
>walk out of spawn to mid
>see three people up on the enemy side in their house
>fire two grenades
>second is a crit and it's a direct hit
>3 killstreak

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>>387776564
>play soldier
>use mangler
>never get crits

Being a laser/infinite ammo fetishist is rough sometimes.

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>>387763070
Here you go, baby. This is more your speed

>>387776564
>melee weapons have a higher base crit chance
>use the skullcutter
>one hit kills pretty much everything
>charge impact+ charge crit + random crit kills anything that is even overhealed
Its pretty fun but it sucks being slow

>gamemode madness is now just the same 5 autists playing deathrun over and over
tf2 is fucking dead and will never come back

>get into melee with a dude
>swing weapon
>hear weapon hit
>no actual hitsound
>no damage
>die

hitreg is a cruel bitch sometimes.

>>387777279
Sounds like a fair trade off

TF2 is fucking trash these days. I'd play maybe a couple games once in a while out of boredom if it didn't take the shitty matchmaking to find a server that:
A) has more than 5 players on each team
B) isn't 10 seconds away from ending

At least when i play Overwatch i can find a fucking game in an acceptable amount of time.

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>>387772409
>crits aren't balanced
Crits aren't a matter of game balance.

Balance is ensuring that the strategies the player can choose between are equally viable, so that they can choose the strategy they enjoy the most.

Crits aren't a strategy, they're a game mechanic. The player doesn't choose, in the moment, whether they deal random crits or not; they either do, or they don't. There is nothing to balance them against.

Sure, you can talk about the AMOUNT of crits that classes do in game balance, because some classes benefit more from crits than others, but that's different from the concept of crits as a whole.

>>387776245
>>387774428
>>387772682
That's why Scout has a double capture rate in Payload. Stack Scouts on the cart and it'll fly.

And he's also super viable on DEFENSE in Payload because there's little to no Sentries to worry about.

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>>387777763
>At least when i play Overwatch i can find a fucking game in an acceptable amount of time
um sweetie

>>387764179
I only taunt scouts and airblast spamming pyros.
The chat salt is glorious.

The first thing to look at will be new unusual effects :^)

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>>387764179
>dude kills someone else and starts taunting in the middle of the map
>just kill them mid taunt because free kill
>they get mad in the chat
What the fuck did you expect?

>>387765203
Worst part is that it's done mostly by experienced players, rather than the new players with no awareness.

>>387768286
>24/7 Dustbowl 24 player with instant respawn
>People actively play this

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>>387780560
>faggot on my team gets killed and laugh taunted on
>instead of killing the dude, I join in
>faggot has left the game

>>387777279
Booties almost make up for the speed penalty though.

>>387777763
>start up tf2 at roughly 6PM
>Check off PL, CP and exclude the shit maps
>1 minute goes by
>finds match with 20-ish players in a new round
Do you only check off like 2-3 maps or something?

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>deadringer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuhiBR_E1zs

>>387780816
I love doing that.

They should add a "stupid" button near Quick Play and Competitive ones.
So we get containment servers for friendlies and deathmatch fags.

>>387781990
we can put you in it

>>387783103
You first, cancer.

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>Those deluded compfags thinking Valve will ban ANY class form comp mode or ANY weapon
You b4nny cock suckers, Valve will NEVER ban any element of the game form their own game. You can see that recent balance changes try to fix your stale autistic meta, justified or not. Will they succeed in our lifetimes? We will see, but forget about your "muh fast 5cp centered around medic gayms". Eat shit.

>>387771625
with the gap doubling between each one, 2021

>>387759009
fpbp

>>387776387
the dead ringer is good the way it is
the ambassador is just op because you can headshot across the map (if you have good aim) every time the weapon cools down

Arena servers WHEN?

Jesus Fucking Christ Valve even Medieval Mode has dedicated servers and thats ONE FUCKING MAP FROM CHRISTMAS SEVEN YEARS AGO

My thoughts on how Spy's balance should be handled:
https://pastebin.com/ERvfah5U
https://pastebin.com/JKbcGi8L

>>387788660
>the dead ringer is good the way it is
see >>387781220

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>>387771625
>bimonthly

>>387767465
Wrong.

>>387768286
>there are probably people who think tfc is too spammy but will play tf2 with 32 players

>>387767465
Literally only applies to Pyro and all the counters afterburn has. Unless you mean to tell me the Razorback is confusing.

>>387788706
>>387788706
>Arena servers WHEN?
Never because nobody likes it
TF2's playerbase does not enjoy sitting in spawn watching other players play. If I wanted that I'd play CS:GO
>Jesus Fucking Christ Valve even Medieval Mode has dedicated servers
Because people actually like it and its servers frequently fill up

>>387792589
I seriously don't understand why the 32 player servers have such a consistently high population while 24-man has plenty of dead hours. Shit is just a mess.

>>387792589
people who play 32player tf2 maps probably don't know tfc exists

>>387792853
The fundamental rule of TF2 will explain this to you: People like continuous action and simple map layouts with little downtime to get their endorphin hit from combat ASAP

This is why 2fort is so popular, because the enemy is always nearby and there's continuous action happening and the map layout is simple to find people quickly to kill
This is why Turbine is so popular, because the enemy is always nearby and there's continuous action happening and the map layout is simple to find people quickly to kill
This is why Dustbowl is so popular, because the enemy is always nearby and there's continuous action happening and the map layout is simple to find people quickly to kill
This is why 32 player modes are so popular, because more enemies=more things to shoot at instantly without having to search for targets first
This is why Arena is so unpopular, because there's long periods of waiting inbetween games
This is why Hydro is so unpopular, because every time a round ends there's many periods of waiting for the area to change

Basic psychology explains the bad taste of many casual TF2 players: they're not invested in the game's finer points and don't like waiting, they just want their gratification as quickly as possible

Which is understandable given that TF2 is an entertainment product

>>387793115
I personally love shitting around on 2fort and turbine, but when you take that jump from 24 to 32 on either one it's just impossible to do anything.

the only way to save this game is to make it paid again so that you force hackers to buy the game and force mongoloids out of the game. goodbye alt accounts and welcome higher quality with no effort. this game does not need updates it just needs less mongoloids online

>>387793193
But CS:GO is still paid and it has the problem of alt accounts

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>>387775532
Hmmm, could it be low-hp classes are more negatively affected by crits that instantly obliterate them (and have weapons that aren't made all that much better by crits) relative to their critrocket firing high-hp brethren?

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>>387776897

what does /tf2g/ think of jbird

>people use dead ringer
That watch is was too loud for me, people can already hear the default decloak so the loud BRAAAAAAP will just make people watch their back

>>387795075
don't bring your dumb general shit in here

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>>387788660
>the dead ringer is good the way it is
spymains are retarded

>>387788660
Dead Ringer is BALANCED sure (if anything it's worse than the other Spy watches) but it's not a GOOD DESIGN

It has little counterplay and never really fools anyone, it sort of just lets Spy crutch his way out of situations where he deserved to die through poor planning

>>387796862
This, it's basically just a tool to keep shitter spies alive for much, MUCH longer than they otherwise would be, but doesn't actually do much to make them more effective at beating the enemy team aside from making the user a slightly more annoying and persistent distraction.