What are some vidya opinions that genuinely make you mad? >fighting

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But they are.

>>387715135
But they're not, if you have the slightest inkling of how to play you're not going to lose to a masher

>player count is indicative of a games quality
i'm mainly just mad my favorite source mod is dead

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>being a fanboy to any company

The number one priority for companies to make money. Some companies may have different philosophies on how to make money and I'm sure a lot of them are genuinely passionate about making vidya. But being "loyal" to a company just makes you prey to the unscrupulous business tactics they're trying to do to you.

It's fine to like a company, but deluding yourself in thinking they can do no wrong is a foolish and naive belief. You can still enjoy their games while criticizing other parts of them.

>dark souls 2 is the worst souls game

This title should belong to fucking 1 or 3 desu

1 has the story elements and genius world building and a great pve but HORRENDOUS pvp (guys backstab XDDDD)

Darkn Souls 3 pve is shit, the world building is awful, its just a straight line and its just a bunch of fanservice (HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT, FIRST GAME HAPPENED!). 3 had better PVP than 1 but still not as good as 2

2 has lesser pve experience than 1 but a FUCK ton of content in it and the best dlc's the series has to offer

dark souls 2 pvp is just....MMMMMMMMMMMMM

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>>387714896
This artist sucks, she doesn't look disgusted at all. Dumb Japs and their sameface dolls.

>>387715632
What was it? Neo Tokyo? Fortress Forever?

>>387714896
>fighting games are all about memorization

>>387714896
Sauce?

>>387714896
you're afucking idiot bitch
go ahead and stuff shit that makes you mad up your ass fucking faggot
Come on, LITERALLY BECOME UPSET
>this is the state of /v/
>we're like so mad about videogames xdd
>just us HARD CORE GAYmers in here
fuck you
What do you think?

>>387716720
(You)

>>387715135
>No diagonals, randomly jumping
>Woman writer

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>Story is just as important as gameplay

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>"Smash is a fighting game!"

>>387715632
While I agree with you, a lot of contrarians ignore the fact that for something to become popular it probably did something right. More often than not, things aren't popular just because.
It's dumb to asume something is good/bad because it's popular, but you should see why something is popular before forming your opinion on it. It may be for a good reason.

>>387717941
Genre labels make you Genuinely Mad? It's semantics. You shouldn't give a shit. Pull the stick from your bum, it's a petty thing to get angry at.

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>girls don't play video games

>>387718293
They don't, they "play" video games, which is to say use them for attention.

>>387718293
>actually sweating while playing video games

>>387718530
I sweat alot, gets humid where I live during the summer

>>387717242
>This artist sucks, she doesn't look disgusted at all.
Because she isn't considering she fucks the guy who she is talkinh too.

>>387718727
Lose that weight, pal.

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>>387714896
>"if games are art, then why aren't they addressing current social issues literally ALL THE TIME?"
>"if games are art then why are they full of such BASE entertainment value like guns and gore?"

>>387718727
hit the gym

>>387719039
>>387718826
>is actually a skeltal

aaa

>>387718408
Maybe if you're 15 years old.

>>387717242
>americans are so bad at telling japanese people apart that they even think manga drawings all have the same face
>they can't even identify what disgust looks like when it's not on a fat american's face

>>387719608
>weebs are so stupid they actually think this is an argument

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>"turn based combat is good"
No

>>387719608
>americans
OBSESSED

>>387719441
Holy shit, man you got me. You're officially the coolest person in existence. Congratulations, I admit entirely that I'm wrong all because you said that I'm 15. I hope one day I'm able to concisely and precisely decimate people in intelligent debate like you. You offered so many brilliant counterpoints.

>>387719747
It's always bothered me a little bit that people always associate turn-based combat with what you get from games like Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest/Chrono Trigger/etc. It's a real shame because there's some legitimately great interpretations of turn-based combat, but they never get acknowledged.

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>>387719747
>"turn based combat is bad"

>>387719747
>>387719979
I like Darkest Dungeon a lot :^)

>>387719823
Here's a counterpoint, women are not beholden to your epic /r9k/ memes and if you actually spoke to them rather than being all "hurr durr get out mah vidya fucking roasties btw why am i still a virgin?" you'd realize that

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>all/most good games get english translations
>all/most untranslated games are just visual novels or porn games
It's not just that people don't know what they're missing out on, it's like they aggressively refuse to acknowledge that there's an entire world of games out there that they know nothing about.

Thinking back on it, I would say a good 75% of my favorite games never got released in English, or only came out in the West 20 years late in some collection.

>>387720080
how about
>turn based combat is better than real time combat where both are applicable

>Musous aren't shovelware

>>387720287
No, that's still just more shit tier non-argument. It's not even anecdotal, just "my opinion is right because I say it is and yours is wrong because of the same reason"

>>387720110
Darkest Dungeon is frustrating to me because it's such a casual fucking insult to roguelikes and dungeon crawlers, but everybody praises it as something hardcore and original.

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>>387719979
Maybe you could point me to some that you believe do a good job, because shit like Final Fantasy, Chrono, and Dragon Quest bored me to death.
>>387720080
It is
Nothing fun about taking turns smacking opponents, and having minimal control over your character

>>387720287
Maybe he did speak to them, you braindead normalfag

>>387717941
How is it not?

>>387720765
>Darkest Dungeon is frustrating to me because it's such a casual fucking insult to roguelikes and dungeon crawlers
It's not supposed to be any of those things. Try not to get offended so easily.
It's great because it's different and the setting and atmosphere is amazing. OF course it also plays very well for a pretty small game.

>>387719823
Google the meaning of decimate

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>>387719747
>>387720821
*Blocks your path*

>>387720508
Those statements, with "most", is true though. However feel free to post your top 9 so we can laugh at your taste.

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>>387721302
Actually, ya got me
Worms games are fucking fun
JRPG turn based combat isn't though

>>387714896
Can somebody explain the storyline with this fag? Half of the shit he's in he's angry and shit but a page later he is getting dicked.

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>tfw no abusive gf

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>>387720821
Sure. For the record, I also can't stand Dragon Quest, and think FF and CT are vastly overrated.

I'm assuming you're not talking about SRPGs here, but in the event you've never actually played one, I highly recommend looking into Tactics Ogre: LUCT, or maybe Disgaea. And just in case you've never played a roguelike before, Nethack does a great job of making turn-based combat consistently engaging. Also a fantastic game.

As for straight/more traditional RPGs, if you haven't played SMT: Nocturne yet, you're really missing out. It's a great example of how to take the traditional turn-based combat formula and actually make it interesting and fun.

Atelier Totori is a pretty interesting example, because the game's all about time management, and every turn in battle takes time off of the game clock. So while it's true that it's less about the combat itself, it's an interesting approach that couldn't be done with real-time combat that makes you consider risk/reward in harvesting items from fallen enemies vs time used on the clock, using your limited items (that you make yourself) to make combat go faster, etc. The turn-based format is greatly improved when grinding is eliminated from the formula.

>>387721302
Top 9 jap-only games of all time?

Summer Carnival 92 Recca*
Linda^3
Moon: Remix RPG Adventure
Chain Dive
Love & Destroy
Mushihimesama Futari
Sin & Punishment N64*
Baroque (Saturn/PS1)
Umihara Kawase Shun*

* - These three games did get VC/equivalent releases like 10-20 years after release, so just in case let me throw in 3 more of my favorite games that never got english releases at all

Germs: Nerawareta Machi
X (Gameboy)
Speed Power Gunbike

If you want I could keep going, because there's just so many good ones.

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>>387722803
Also, feel free to ask me any questions about import gaming you may have, or for any more information on the games I mentioned. If you have a specific genre you're into/have something you've always wanted to see in a game and were curious if there's a japan-only game that'd fill that gap for you, let me know and I'll see if I can recommend something for you.

>>387722803
>>387723510
Thanks for the recommendations
I'll check a few of these out to see if any grab my fancy
SMT was always a series I was interested in but never took a chance with due to my distaste for turn based stuff

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>>387718408
Nibba as a female i never seek attention by saying that i play video games, (though, i suck at talking to new people anyway). I can see where that statement is coming from, but dont just assume all girls are like that

>>387723838
Yeah, I had assumed that I was completely uninterested in turn-based JRPGs until I checked out Nocturne. It's a really cool game.

>>387723872
london

>>387722803
>Top 9 jap-only games of all time?
No, that's not what I asked.

>>387724420
I'm sorry, what did you ask? That's a personal top 9, anyhow. Do you mean just top 9 games in general?

>>387724420
>asks for 'top 9'
>gets a top 9
>completely ignores the answer and doesn't even respond to it
Man, I love coming on /v/

>>387722628
>>387714896
SAUUUUUUUUUCE

>>387724420
>>387724682
>>387724863
It's funny because this response was already predicted in >>387720508
the dude gets games he's never heard of so he just decides to ignore the response entirely so he can avoid actually maybe learning something

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>This game has aged badly

>>387724682
>>387724863
Yes. Sorry it sounded vague. I just want to know the taste of someone who claims that most untranslated games are good and not just VNs and RPGMaker games and the like.

>>387725240
You misunderstandu.

>>387725323
Protip: "aged" means "the game was bad even then, but I didn't know enough about games to know how or why it was bad."

>>387724976
Maebaeros - the girl who verbally abuses

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>>387723872
>"as a female"
>followed immediately by "never seek attention"
Can't make this shit up

>>387725323
This can be true sometimes
Soke games do age pretty good and thw controls don't feel like garbage, where as other games do have clunky ass controls that just weren't as noticeable at the time due to lack of experience with other games

>>387725569
Thank you kindly.

>>387714896
>RPGs are tough

I love RPGs and have been playing them since I could read and hold a super Nintendo controller, but RPGs are not difficult.

>>387725647
>There are no women who like vidya it's all frauds
>>But I like vidya
>OH GREAT AN ATTENTION WHORE YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT LIKE VIDYA

>>387722803
>Summer Carnival 92 Recca
>Mushihimesama Futari
>Umihara Kawase Shun
Mi negro.
Do you have any other recommendations? Especially if they are action games because you know it's kind of hard to play jrpg...

>>387720508
ok im interested in this game
has it been fully translated yet?

>>387726381
There are no females in vidya because you being female doesn't matter. The only reason you would claim to be a woman in such a male dominated hobby is to attention whore and you want some kind of recognition for the fact that you're a woman playing video games. You making a post "b-but i'm a woman and I actually DO like games" like you're a better woman who plays video games than the generic gamurgurls.
Now you have even more of an incentive to post your tits because that is the only relevant thing about you being a woman we care about. Otherwise gtfo.

>>387726797
>you being female doesn't matter.
What does you being male matter? Ye puta. Your response to, "I'm a girl," should be, "Kay," not "REEEE GET OUT."

>>387727367
I'll accept the fact that you're a woman so long as you post dem tiddies as proof with a timestamp, faggot.

>>387727665
>>>/b/

>>387726797

Actually my social skills are horrible because i always panic when talking to people. Im only able to talk normally as an anonymous on 4chan or to the people im really close to already. Seeking attention would be the last thing i'd do, especially as a "gamergurll" because id be so scared knowing that people would hate me for that. I know most girls are generic thots and only seek attention, but i have actually no friends at all because i seriously cant talk to people, so i play vidya and watch anime, the pathetic loser that i am

Also>>387727367
>>387727857
Arent me

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>I don't like game because of the Japanese art style

>>387720678
But you also gave a non-argument, anon. You just put forward baseless conjecture and got mad when someone else did the same.

>English dubs are inherently bad/Japanese voice is always superior

>>387729129
almost always
id say japs take their VAing estremely seriously but i have heard some impressive english VAing

>>387729361
no.

Sorry, was out for a minute.

>>387725424
Actually, I don't believe that most untranslated games are good. Just that not most good games have already been translated.

Here's a personal top 9 just in general, then. It's probably pretty similar. 1-4 are tied for first place.

1.1) Sin & Punishment
1.2) Space Harrier
1.3) Summer Carnival 92 Recca
1.4) Umihara Kawase Shun
2. Ibara Pink Sweets 360 Arrange Mode
3. Mushihimesama Futari
4. Moon: Remix RPG Adventure
5. Dark Messiah (AKA hellnight)
6. Linda^3
7. Deception Series
8. Gunvalkyrie
9. Baroque (PS1/Sat version)

>>387726389
Absolutely. From that list I posted, check out Chain Dive, Sin & Punishment, and Speed Power Gunbike if you haven't yet. For some otehrs, I highly recommend Bulk Slash, Panorama Cotton, Nyahax 93 (freeware on the PC98, best 3 minute-long shmup of all time), Cardinal Sins (recently got a steam release), and Twinkle Star Sprites. I'm sure you know most of these already, though.

>>387726795
Nope.

>it's an rpg because it has levels, stats, items
fucking kill yourself if that's your criteria for an rpg

>>387729129
name 1 (one) counterexample in videogaming

>>387730808
We all know the criterion:
>takes place in an imaginary realm
>with a fantastical beastiary
>damsel villain ratio is at or above standards
>core emphasis of the gameplay is on bedazzling all foes with impeccable swords and sorcery.
Furthermore, this line of thought can be extended to all vidcons in which the player controls a character (hence, roleplaying), though I cringe slightly at the thought of such mundane vidcons as Madden being RPGs, as they do not even include exotic weaponry such as the tonfa.

>>387726202
>I only play easy RPGs
>I play RPGs where you can grind

>>387730959
The vast majority of them. Playing a game with audio in a language you don't understand is fucking retarded, which makes it inferior in every way to even the worst quality dubs

>>387731060
roleplaying as a football team manager

>>387731087
>>I play RPGs where you can grind
name a few (2-3) games where you can't. actually interested

>>387731103
勝手にそんな馬鹿なこと決めつけるな ww

吹き替えは大体くそ過ぎて内容も雰囲気も完全に壊す

英語の吹き替えだけじゃないけどさ

>>387731361
Chrono Cross
Baten Kaitos

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>>387731361
Linda^3 (Pic related. Personal favorite, but I've already mentioned it in this thread a good few times)
Atelier Totori (really cool game that takes a very interesting approach to a nonlinear RPG. A lot of people ignore it for the very bright and colorful artstyle though, and I can't exactly blame them for that)
Last Remnant (kind of overrated, but still pretty neat)

>>387731361
>>387731712
Chrono Cross and the Trails series. Chrono Cross doesn't even have a traditional leveling system, and Trails scales enemy EXP based on your characters' levels

>>387730542
which version of baroque is better? the psx or ps2 version

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>>387732151
The PSX/Saturn game is much better from a horror and atmosphere perspective. Genuinely creepy and occasionally even scary, much darker and more horrific soundtrack, artwork, etc. It's also first-person.

The PS2 game almost feels like a regular anime artstyle, and isn't nearly as good on the horror front. However, the gameplay is a bit faster and more accessible, has voice acting, and -- here's the kicker -- is in english, while the PS1 game is jap-only (with rather difficult Japanese).

Basically, the PS1 game is better, but the PS2 game is in english. If you don't understand japanese, it's still definitely worth playing the ps2 version, and then maybe checking out the soundtrack and some videos of the ps1 game later to learn what you're missing out on.

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>>387731361
>>387731752
Let me explain how Linda^3 avoids the grinding problem:
The whole game is set on a calendar, where you have 8 years to gather one male and one female of every creature to put them on an ark. Because time is passing in real time, wasting your time grinding instead of hunting for new monsters and pursuing the story (both are essential to complete the game within the time limit) would ensure failure by the end. On top of this, if you damage an enemy too hard, not only do you destroy their body so that you can't put it on the ark, but you don't even gain experience for it. So it's actually a bit of an interesting challenge to figure out how to do the least amount of damage possible to certain enemies later on in the game.

I could talk about this game all day.

>>387733020
You've just motivated me to study japanese more, thanks.

>>387714896
>WoW sucked after Vanilla/BC/WOTLK/Whenever I quit

Seriously get over your nostalgia.

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>>387733743
Make sure to play the Saturn version for max despair.

>>387714896

Fighting games aren't button mashers but they're still awful.

I still have trouble coming across opponents that can make it around the stereotypical "Spam projectiles and throw them up close" trick.

>>387718293

I know a girl or two that actually plays video games competently as well. They might be rare, but they exist.

Also remember that women generally have better vision than men and make fantastic snipers when they play correctly. My ex got a 3-to-1 kill ratio in most Halo multiplayer matches with the sniper rifle.

Also, >only japs can 1cc a bullet hell

>>387717941
>Game where you fight another player and do nothing else
>Not a fighting game

>>387734081
>I still have trouble coming across opponents that can make it around the stereotypical "Spam projectiles and throw them up close" trick
Stop playing awful people maybe.
Fucking tripfags.

>>387734031
How hard japanese is in this game?

>>387723510
How'd you like Moon, my nigga? I thought I was the only one on this board who gave a shit about it.

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>The Kingdom Hearts II tutorial is long and boring

>>387734739
>facts make me mad
wheew laddy

>>387734505
Very. The game was originally designed to be an 'RPG for adults only' that wasn't an H game, and the text is very indicative of that.

>>387734565
It's an actual masterpiece. I'm glad that it's getting a translation so more people can experience it.

>>387734884
>Very
Fuk, okay

>>387734081
>My ex got a 3-to-1 kill ratio in most Halo multiplayer matches with the sniper rifle
its a power weapon that at max takes 2 shots to kill
you have to be retarded or have physical disabilities to not get at least a 2:1 k/d with a power weapon

>>387715913
Are you new to /v/?

I used to talk to a guy who genuinely believed blocking in fighting games and braking in driving games were pussy options for bad players. He also said realism > fun mechanics in any situation, but then thought hearing footsteps in FPS games was bullshit because it gave other players an advantage (he listened to music while playing games and muted his game 100% of the time, including in competitive games). He was shit.

>>387716720
>desu
Opinion discarded

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>>387734994
>>387734994
Here's the first ten minutes of the game. It has examples of the cutscenes, some voice-acted text, and some text-only exchanges. I would say it's fairly indicative of the whole game, so if you can understand this much, you can probably make your way through the game.

I will note however, that the third and final scenario of the game is very strict on the time limit, and you will need to be talking to NPCs to get vital hints about how to approach the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LejME5lKwoA

>>387735272
Well of course someone retarded enough to hold such opinions would be shit.

>>387735673
Sorry, I take that back. Actually looking at the video, it's clear the player has no idea what he's doing and skips some parts I wanted to show you.

This is the PC Engine version, but they at least go through the scenes I was talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkdhfOh9J3s

>>387716720
Souls game have kind of shitty pvp though. It was only ever supposed to be invasion shit. Souls games use a lot of fighting game basics but dumbed down to shit. The strength of the souls games is their atmosphere and sense of discovery. In terms of any other aspect other games do it better.

>>387715403
Yes, you will.

>>387714896
Video games don't have to be fun.

>>387714896
The Last of Us is my favorite game followed by Half-Life 2 and Ocarina of Time. I also think HL2 is far, far better than 1
I've played through Human Revolution seven or eight times. I played the tutorial level of the original and dropped it because it seemed like a slog to get through and looked like shit.
I love Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask, but can’t stand any other game in the Zelda series. Twilight Princess is alright, though. I got to the 3rd dungeon on Link to the Past and gave up on it because it bored me.
I played through DMC1 once and disliked it despite playing through 3 and 4 countless times.
I’ve purchased and thoroughly enjoyed every game in the God of War franchise
I pretty much exclusively play Mercy/Lucio and mute team/voice chat in Overwatch because it's the only role I'm good at. I shit on my team if they fuck up, though, and I managed to make it to Master rank every season.
I unironically think Whiplash is the worst movie ever made.
The only RE games I've played are 4, 5, 6, and 7 and I have no intention of playing any of the older games
I played through FEAR 2 three times but gave on the first one after 2 hours
I watch Oney Plays, Super Mega, and Game Grumps. I also think Danny is funnier than Jon and that the show improved significantly when he replaced him.
I thought Watch Dogs 2 was okay.
I cheat all the time in online multiplayer games. I pubstomped in TF2 for years with LMAOBox and would send all the items I got from that account to my main account

>>387728216
Almost all of my favourite games are japanese and I probably read more manga than you do, but nep has a shitty artstyle and a game like ribi rabi has such a phoned in shitty artstyle that I have no desire to play it.

>>387736358
The moment you stop mashing and start attempting to actually play you will get worse and lose to mashers, but after a while it will stop happening.

>>387736678
Rabi ribi is fun though, although I will 100% admit everything outside of the gameplay (more the bossfights than the metroidvania elements probably) and OST is shit.

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>>387717589
You okay, man?

>X mechanic is always objectively bad and can't interact with other mechanics in fun and interesting ways, regardless of the implementation

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>>387722628
That's nothing. Try

>no BDSM loving gf

It's all just ugly crazy bitches.

>>387716720
>basing your Souls opinions on pvp
look at this fucking faggot

>>387734081
>I am garbage at fighting games and my opponents are garbage.

>>387737432
Because most women want a dominant man and most people in general find submissive men disgusting.

>>387719608
>implying japanese art looks like japanese people
>implying a simplified cartoon face can express amotion like a real one

>>387717416
i mean they mostly are though. what other skills are required in fighting games that aren't required in other, better genres?

>>387717941
>being this much of a gatekeeper for one of the worst genres

smash is better than traditional fighting games anyway

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>>387737789
No shit, but my point still stands.

>>387720508
this is because what level of weeb do you have to be to play untranslated games? it just takes way too much dedication to be a hobby, thats more of an obsession

>>387738080
It wouldn't be hard to find a bdsm loving girlfriend, but she'll be the sub. You were born a man, you're expected to be dominant. Accept your gender role.

>>387738260
Please don't talk down to me like that.

>>387735323
>He doesn´t know about the words filtered
Hello summerfag

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>>387717589
>afucking idiot bitch
i jej´d

>>387738438
Accept your role then.

>>387728116
dont worry, ill fuck you

>>387737432
>>387722628
>>387714896

MORE

>>387715913
This
You can like a company's products and have faith in them, sure
but if you think you're somehow committing an injustice by not giving money to a multi-million, if not multi-billion entity, then you're delusional

>>387714896
>I don't like this game anon
>How long did you play it for?
>Thirty minutes, why

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>>387714896
>Game has amazing gameplay
>"Oh, I didn't like it 'cause the story sucked."

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>>387738583
No!

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>>387717589
Good post.

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>>387739195
>this, but the other way around

>>387714896
>zelda timeline is a real planned thing

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>>387739375
sauce

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>"The Gamecube controller is the best controller of all time!!"

Even the Dreamcast controller was better than that overrated piece of crap

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>>387714896

>>387716720
shit opinion, apply yourself

>>387737789
As it should be.

>>387740380
Probably just smash autism.

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>>387714896
>People who complain any time a game has any sense of story or lore whatsoever

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>People who write off any piece of text about video games longer than 250 words as "autism", or nitpick the tone, or miss the point of the text entirely and just call the author a "fag".