Metroid

>>387708624
Waaaahhhhhh no chibi robo 4 u

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id show samus all my love

>another thread about japanese business logic

It's universally known at this point that their approach is fucking retarded.
A game that sells poorly doesn't mean that the franchise itself has become uninteresting and unprofitable to the consumers.
It means that the one singular game is bad and nobody likes it. Just make a good game and you'll be swimming in money.

but I hate Metroid and Metroid fans.

>>387708624
Devs and companies say this fucking shit all the fucking time and it has never made a significant difference. Samus Returns could sell a million copies and Nintendo will say that it still didn't meet their expectations and a sequel is not planned. Capcom is the worst about this but every major company has done it. This very idea has become a sales pitch and nothing else. Buy the game if you think you'll like it. Don't buy it solely because you want more Metroid games or just to support the franchise, or else you'll be disappointed.

Is this dumb fallacy about Metroid fans not buying Metroid games still going?

Metroid fans DO buy Metroid games ; that's why they're fans! The thing is though, there's not enough fans out there!

The real problem is, that only fans buy Metroid games! If non-fans would buy Metroid too, that'd help. Or if non-fans would convert to Metroid fans.

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Are you only pretending to be stupid enough to fall for this? If so, why?

Sakamoto is a fucking fraud who should fuck off already.

Nobody fucking wanted a remake of Metroid 2.

That's STILL 15 (fifteen) fucking years since the last 2D Metroid game that wasn't a remake.

Honestly, Prime 4 is the only way to save the franchise at this point. 2D is fucking dead.

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>buy shitty rehash to get another 2D metroid
>mfw when it's a metroid fusion remake

>Ransoming the game you want with the sales of one you don't
This is such a scummy practice and I'm goddamned tired of it.

I'll buy it anyway. But I hate this logic

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>>387709271
>nobody wanted a remake of Metoid 2
>but let's suck off the AMR2 dev and throw a hissyfit when it gets DMCA'd

Really gets the old hamster wheel moving

>>387709271
>Nobody fucking wanted a remake of Metroid 2.
I wanted it. now you can just fuck off. and 2D is here to stay

nintendo manchildren don't want another metroid, that's a sad fact
you only want another mario shit, pedotoon and zelda from time to time

>>387708624
>2D

No.

Metroid Prime tier Metroid games are superior.

>>387709598
Exactly, retard. We all played AM2R already. We all were satisfied. No one wanted the remake anymore because a fan already took care of it.

>>387709606
lol everyone will pirate Samus Returns and kill 2D Metroid for good. The future is Prime. Get fucked

>>387708624
let me translate that for you, ahem"

>Sakamoto would love
>making money off a game that takes no effort to make (4 man crew using recycled database garbage)
>but it depends on the market projections and approval

>>387709271
>Nobody fucking wanted a remake of Metroid 2.
I did. Lots of people did.

With Zero Mission, many people felt like the one last game that needed to be put up to level with the other was Metroid 2.

>>387709387
Oh fuck, that's actually not too far off. God damn, what a fucking nightmare. I really, really enjoyed Fusion but I want a new fucking game already.

>>387709762
>lol everyone will pirate Samus Returns and kill 2D Metroid for good. The future is Prime. Get fucked
lowest of the low bait

>>387709762
>We all were satisfied. No one wanted the remake anymore because a fan already took care of it.
Lots of people still wanted an official remake.

>>387709598
>fangame comes out and is great
>nintendo issues C&D and then squeezes a shittier version of a fangame out of their ass
>nobody wants to pay full price for a shitty version of a fangame of a good game.

Yeah man I can't imagine why people aren't excited for Samus Returns.

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>>387709868
>>making money off a game that takes no effort to make
Factually wrong. Samus Returns is a complete overhaul.

>>387709989
>IF IT DOESN'T HAVE THE OFFICIAL NINTENDO SEAL THEN IT'S SHIIIIIT
Fuck off.

>>387709997
>Samus Returns is based on the fangame
>People actually believe this

>>387710095
making a 2D sidescroller is the easiest shit to make even if it is from scratch

Is this gonna be MN9 all over again?

>>387709997
Nice fictional scenario

>>387710108
he never said that you fucking retard.

>>387709989
you're as bad as the fucking faggots who want Nintendo to localize Mother 3 because "muh official translation"

>>387710108
Never said that.
>>387710174
>making a 2D sidescroller is the easiest shit
Factually wrong.

>>387710108
Not an argument

>outsources a remake of a 25 year old game to a shit studio after not making 2D metroid games for 13 years, the last game which was also a remake of an old game
2D Metroid died a long time ago. Long live Metroidvania

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>>387708624
"dependant on fan support"

So it's Megaman Legends 3 all over again?

>>387710303
even mobile games are harder to make than 2D sidescrollers

>>387710297
>you're as bad as the fucking faggots who want Nintendo to localize Mother 3
I don't see anything wrong with that.

Mind you Nitnedo actually makin a complete overhaul of Metroid II is far from just being a "localisation". We are getting a brand new game and that's good.

guy that played through the extended hands on two weeks ago

ask me things

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>>387709762
So by that logic we didn't need Sonic Mania because Sonic 3 Complete, and Megamix took care of classic sonic. We don't need anymore Smash Bros games because we have Project M and I guess we don't need Super Mario Odyssey because there's an N64 hack of it and who the fuck needs another Mario Kart when we have CGTP-7 and Mario Kart 8 hacks

>>387710108
Knockoffs are better, of course

>>387708624
>Dependant

how to spot a retard

>>387710406
Factually wrong.

>>387710440
feel cheap and souless?

>>387710440
Gonna buy it?

>>387710440
Could you tell if it was 30fps or 60fps?

>>387710370
to this day I still have no idea how they even gauged that

>>387710523
it's your money so spent it on whatever you like just dont go on a spree when you realize your entire life is a lie and that you suck

>>387709271
>Nobody wanted a remake of metroid 2
that's why AM2R fags don't exist, right?

>>387710440
how many dicks have you sucked?

>>387709271
Everyone wanted a Metroid 2 remake. What are you talking about?

2 is the only game that is still held back by it's time

>>387708624
I'd love another 2D Metroid, but not one by Sakamoto.

>buy our shit so we can make more shit or we'll kill it
They're literally holding the series hostage.

>>387710606
>have got lots of fun wit the previous 2D metroid, expect to keep having it.

>>387710525
Felt mostly like playing fusion at 150% speed.
>>387710574
won't need to
>>387710591
30, but this was known since the reveal
>>387710649
times or different ones?

>>387710592
they did it the way they always do it. give a jap a camera and a mic and have them go around asking jap girls on the street what they think about the game. then the conference room watches the video and the divining lady tells them yes or no. they all go out to get shitfaced while their wives are fucking the neighbors

>>387710715
>30, but this was known since the reveal
It has never been confirmed by any official source.

>>387710705
>I'd love another 2D Metroid, but not one by Sakamoto

I really don't get this. He's worked on nearly every 2D Metroid.

Did Other M scar your brains that bad?

>>387710705
Sakamoto is in charge of Returns though and it looks thematically fine. It's clear that he has either learned from other M, or is being actively encouraged to move away from it

>>387710830
ah yes grorious nippon

>>387710853
It scared my brains that bad personally. Before returns I didnt want him to even touch the franchise ever again

However now that Returns looks fine, who cares? He's clearly the right man for the job, why are people still pretending he hasn't made up for his fuck ups?

>>387710853
People think that if a director is in charge of one bad game, they can only make bad games from then on, no matter how many good games they directed before hand.

>tfw these threads always devolve into shitposting about Metroid fans
>tfw Metroid fans just want a new game that isn't shit
I don't think Return is gonna be great. It might be good. If it reviews well, it might capture some new fans. But I doubt it'll revitalize the series. Even Prime 4 feels like it'll be a swan song.

There aren't any games quite like Metroid. I really try to buy every metroidvania game that indie devs release, but at the end of the day I know I just want a Metroid game, not a fan knock off.

>>387710851
oh, well, anyway. it's 30 but steady solid, which after Mirrors of Fate its something

Anybody have that picture with all the sprites of Samus across all the games and romhacks?

Super Metroid is frequently listed as a GOAT contender. What is so hard for Nintendo in seeing that it's a formula that works and is worth repeating? What is so hard about making a NEW 2D Metroid game on home consoles and not fucking remakes on handhelds? The last new Metroid was Fusion. The last home console Metroid was Super. I have never seen an IP this criminally mismanaged.

>>387709271
Prime is shit.

>>387708624
but i don't love this neo metroid with cheap hand holding gimmicks to appease the new generation.

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>>387711407
This?

>>387711518
>The last home console Metroid was Super.

Other M? Prime 3?

>>387711518
>The last home console Metroid was Super.
Metroid (NES)
Super Metroid (SNES)
Metroid Prime (GCN)
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes (GCN)
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption (/Trilogy) (Wii)
Metroid Other M (Wii)

Also several rereleases on home consoles (Metroid Fusion / Metorid Zero Mission on Wii U GBA Virtual Console for example) and the upcoming Prime 4 on Switch.

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>>387708624
Hm, where have I heard that line before...

>>387711885
>>387712053
Prime series is a spinoff. It's like saying the last Mario game was Mario Kart 8

>>387711518
because 2D Metroidvanias are a niche genre suited for 20 dollar tier games.
but nintendo needs games that they can sell at 50 bucks with mainstream appeal

>>387711518
>The last home console Metroid was Super. I have never seen an IP this criminally mismanaged.
Home xonsole or Handheld, the game is still thessame. This is a pointless distinction.
Samus Returns prove they care about that series.

>>387708624
nah, 2d metroids were shit backtracking fests that slowly drag from one bossfight to another which where the lone highlights of an otherwise complete waste of time

Who's the whinier fanbase: Mega Man's "How dare you only give us thirty games!" or Metroid's "I'm still complaining even though you just announced two games that are exactly what I've been saying I wanted!"

>>387712343
>Home xonsole or Handheld, the game is still thessame. This is a pointless distinction.
I have a nice TV and I enjoy using it. I haven't enjoyed playing on handhelds since I was 12.

>>387712364
I like backtracking. It's why I loved the original REs. It made it feel like it was taking place in a real place and not just a series of video game levels. It made you have to actually remember things instead of forgetting everything the instant you go to the next screen.

>>387712364
>drag from one bossfight to another which where the lone highlights of an otherwise complete waste of time
You just described every video game

>>387710126
Samus Returns would absolutely not have been made if not for AM2R generating buzz for Metroid.

>>387708624
>Sakamoto starts a kickstarter for Metroid spiritual successor
>when it gets 10x it's stretch goal he reveals the dev is Inti creates
how mad would you be?

>>387712608
I would agree with you, if the backtracking wouldn't happen to take place in completely video gamey tube-like tiny parcels for the sole reason of getting yet another % completion

rpgs get backtracking done way better, basically making backtracking not even feel like backtracking while having you visit the same locations on many more occasions than metroid and still giving the player the feeling of doing something unique there

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>>387708624
REMINDER THAT IF SAMUS RETURNS DOESN'T SELL YOU CAN KISS 2D METROID GOODBYE

>>387712839
I gave up on Metroid a long time ago. Hollow Knight is a better game than even Super

>>387712717
what about awesome games like total war? it doesn't even have bossfights, yet every moment is so much fun it makes people play for days and forget about the time

I'd rather wait another 10 more years for some fan made bullshit that at least had the spirit of Metroid, than buy this obvious cash grab with functions locked behind a plastic happy meal toy.
Get fucked Nintendaiper...get fucked hard

>>387712189
Nope, Prime is the result of the transition from 2D to 3D.

>>387710443
exactly
Mania and Smash U are unnecessary

>>387709523
I agree but at least in this context the game the series is riding on looks pretty good and is true to what people like about it. It's incredibly scummy when it's things that defy what the fans like, in the case of DmC and Zip Lash

>>387713016
It's still a spinoff. Otherwise they would have called it Metroid 4

Honestly I hope it sells like shit and hire the am2r guy to make 5

>>387712128
good call
Legends is a shitty series with an even shittier sequel

>>387708624
But I don't want SAKAMOTO to make another 2D Metroid.

>>387712757
>People actually believe this

>>387713180
They called Metroid 4 Metroid Fusion and it's still not a Spin-Off.
Also calling it Metroid 4 wouldn't have made sense taking into consideration that from that point on forward the Metroid story was told in a non-linear fashion.

>>387708624
Stupid faggot only wants it NOW because he saw the overwhelming success of Sonic Mania. Fuck him.

>>387713180
That's pretty shitty logic. I guess that means every single Castlevania game in its history is a spinoff.

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>>387708624
Oh boy, I better show my love for Metroid by buying this remake and then buying all the REQUIRED FOR FULL GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCE Amiibo™ Figurines so hopefully Nintendo will deign to bless us with another game after this!

Are you fucking kidding me? This is in no way a good indicator of the quality of a future metroid title. You're remaking an existing game, anyone can do that, one fucking dude just did on his own and it was probably better than this is going to be.

If you want to gauge interest for the future of a franchise at least release an original fucking instalment so we can judge the quality of the team we're going to be supporting for the next decade. This sounds like such a fucking dodgy sales pitch. And if people don't buy this remake they're gonna assume nobody wants a NEW game.

Who the fuck is handling Nintendo's IP these days they're fucking mental.

>>387708624
lmao half the people don't even want this shit. it's all over for metroid, just accept it and find a good rope for your neck

>>387713347
you're just pissed because it's true and you want that amiibo more than anything.

>we're taking the series hostage unless you buy amiibo riddled garbage
capcom ladies and gentlemen, oh wait, it's ok when nintendo does cartridge locked content

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>>387713543
they're following the Square Enix formula

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>people beg for new Metroid for past few years
>years go by
>finally get fucking Federation Force aka LOLUWANT METROID?? THEN HERE FAGOT: The Game
>game bombs
>people begging Sega for fresh clean retro Sonic game
>Sega deliver's, with an extra pickle and a slice of cheesecake on the side
>Nintendo - "w-we're interested in making a new 2D Metroid game now..... b-but it depends on y-your support.........."

mfw

>>387709271
Shut the fuck up Primefag, your shit series is getting fucked in the ass by Tanabe. Prime 4 will bomb and finally, the Prime series will die while we still get 2D games.

>>387708624
>Fuck over actual fans who slave away making fan game
>Whine for fan support from fags who buy Metroid shirts at hot topic

Nintendo needs to die

>>387713016
It's a spin-off you dumbfuck I guess Halo Wars is a mainline Halo game too right?

>>387714594
you mean it isn't?

>>387714661
>being this stupid

>>387714704
as long as it's canon to the main story it's a mainline game

>>387714594
I don't care or know about Halo. But I do know about Metroid. And Metroid Prime ain't no Spin-Off.

Metroid Other M isn't a Spin-Off either and that isn't called Metroid 3.5.
If we believe Kojimadrones, who believe MGS V =/= MGS 5, then even Metroid II Return of Samus ain't a mainine title.
What's with the original Metroid? It's not called Metroid 1, just Metroid. Got no number, so no mainline title, right?

So only Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion are mainline games? Because those got numbers.

>>387714768
It plays no part in the mainline game's story and has zero importance to it.

I hacked my 3ds, I'm never buying another game for it.

>>387714840
Sakamoto: "We wanted to explore Metroid's possibilities as subjective (first person) action game. A member of Nintendo mentioned Retro, a studio that had great experience in this field. I didn't participate a lot in these games: I supervised that they maintained the essence of the franchise, but we gave them a lot of liberty with the plot. In fact, I have always seen the story of the Primes as alternative and not integrated in the story of the other Metroids, that's the reason they had total liberty when creating it. And Samus was different, tougher."
>I have always seen the story of the Primes as alternative and not integrated in the story of the other Metroids
You better not go into autistic mode and start posting images that Sakamoto said Prime is canon because calling Prime a spin off is a completely different meaning.

>>387709387
Fusion was sick. I want that. Or a sequel.

>>387715197
This, I'm ready for Metroid Dread and I can't wait for Samus Returns to sell well that way the game can come out next for the 3DS.

>>387713661
AM2R came out this year you dense cunt, I'm sure Nintendo dmca'd because they were afraid of it cannibalizing sales but to imply Nintendo started work on Samus Returns only after AM2R released is fucking stupid.

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>>387709271
>Nobody fucking wanted a remake of Metroid 2.
Fuck you, I did.

>>387715153
We're talking Prime currently. What authority does Sakamoto have over Prime?

" I have always seen [...] "

Yeah, just his personal opinion on the relation of those works by Retro to his own. Absolutely no importance on the topic on mainline vs spin-off.

>>387715440
Looking at Samus Returns intro, apparently a lot since he's the one that gives the go ahead on Prime games as long as they keep the spirit and essence of Metroid.

>>387715153
>We wanted to explore Metroid's possibilities as subjective (first person) action game.
That's a pretty blatant lie, because the Prime project started as a 3rd person game. 1st person didn't come in until quite a ways into development when Retro was having trouble with the camera in enclosed environments. Miyamoto then suggested trying a 1st person view and the rest is history.

>>387712572
>I haven't enjoyed playing on handhelds since I was 12.
You might, now.

>>387709606
>>387709892
>>387710616
>>387710696
>>387715416
All these casual bitches. What a shame.

>>387713184
>wanting Metroid Mania

Dear Gunpei in Heaven, no.

>>387715669
What's casual about that?
Metroid II is one of the harder games in the franchise, dude.

>>387715610
The man isn't involved in Prime games developments, what you expect him to know the entire history of the Prime games' development when he's only worked on 2D games?

>>387715787
Exactly, which is why wanting a remake of it makes you a casual.

If this was a new 2D Metroid game on the Switch I might have been interested in it. But a remake of a GB game for the 3DS? No thanks.

They are obviously bullshitting because someone ALREADY MADE A FUCKING 2D METROID GAME and they Cease and Desist'd it. From seeing how popular that was they should already be able to tell how well an official game would do.

>>387715669
>calling 2D fans casuals
You're the only casual here, Prime faggot.

>>387708624
fuck off, we should have gotten something new instead of an unnecessary remake of 2

what did he think he was doing? testing the waters? goes to show how out of touch he really is, metroid has had fans waiting for a new game for over a decade.

i'd feel better about the new prime but i know it's going to be non-canon and not the sequel to fusion we've all been waiting for

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>>387709725
>this isn't what you want
>i know what you want better than you

They should have just remade Fusion, and started work on Metroid V.

I have no hope for Prime 4... the Federation Force guys are working on it.

>>387715847
Ah, I see your reasoning now.
But just because I'm interested in a remake doesn't mean I won't stop loving the original for it's challenge.

>people wanting more remakes
fuck you, it's been over a decade since a new 2D metroid

>>387715968
Fusion doesn't need a remake, Metroid II did and Metroid 5 has already been hinted at to be Sakamoto's next project.

>>387715938
The Switch isn't the 3DS's replacement.

>>387715595
>Looking at Samus Returns intro, apparently a lot since he's the one that gives the go ahead on Prime games as long as they keep the spirit and essence of Metroid.

W-what? Where in the intro of Samus Returns are the inner political workings of the company that is Nintendo explained? Where does it state in the intro to Samus Returns that Sakamoto gives the OK to Prime games?

It's simple as that:
Mainline: Metroid, Metroid II, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Prime, Prime 2, Prime 3, Metroid Zero Mission, Other M
Spin-Off: Metroid Prime Hunters, Metroid Prime Pinball, Metroid Prime Federation Force

>>387715353
wrong

I think the timing of the Metroid II remake is very convenient for Nintendo.

It's going to bomb because people have already played a better Metroid II remake already, giving Nintendo the perfect excuse to kill the series for good.

I don't think Metroid Prime 4 actually exists.

>>387716114
I never said the Switch was the replacement for the 3DS nor do I care. I just prefer not to have to play on a small 240p screen.

>>387716123
>he didn't see the Samus Returns intro on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9whLV3gD-XA
1:23
Stay mad, Primebaby.

Sakamoto is the supervisor for all the Prime games if you don't know what the job title means then you should do your homework and look it up.

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>>387708624
>my two favorite game series are Metroid and Monster Hunter
>tfw the state of Metroid and Monhun threads on /v/ right now

>>387716123
I'm not anon, but I kind of have to agree.
I wouldn't call the Prime series a spinoff, but it's definitely not part of the flagship series. It's a side-series at best. That doesn't mean it can't still be placed in the same timeline. Spinoffs, however, are obviously not canon.
I view it basically like this:
Mainline: Metroid, Metroid II, Super, Fusion, Other M, Samus Returns
Sideline: Prime, Prime 2, Prime Hunters, Prime 3, FUCKING SOCCER
Spinoff: Prime Pinball, Metroid Blast

>>387716160
Not an argument

>>387716375
I'm fine with it, I rather 2D Metroid not have a huge budget because that would hurt the franchise if it didn't sell well, meaning hit a million copies sold so being cheaply made for a handheld works for me.

>>387716453
Are the Prime games even important to the plot of Metroid II, though?

>>387716630
No

>>387715947
I'm not calling 2D fans casuals, I'm calling sissies that want a remake of Metroid 2 casuals.

>>387708624
>Sakamoto Would Love to Steal Another Metroid Remake Dependant on Fan's Making One

>>387716453

>shitty ass lazy suit design

Who in the heck keeps asking for this? Who ACTUALLY thinks that is a good looking design?? It looks so lazily designed.

>>387716453
I've seen the intro like a thousand times by now. It tells the story of Zero Mission and what happened before Samus Returns.
What does that have to do with the authority Sakamote has or hasn't over the Prime series' status?

Like, because they didn't mention the story of Prime, those games aren't mainline? Oh shit, son. Maybe they didn't mention it because they are irrelevant to Samus Returns AND there's a fourth game in the making which there's no plot to yet?
You fucking retarded dumb piece of shit?
Prime is mainline whether you like it or not. Go enjoy Other M or whatever you do.

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>>387716557
It wasn't supposed to be you dense cunt
Stay mad fat boy.

>>387717204
>Primefag is mad
WOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>387717197
Suit looks awesome, kill yourself.

AMR2 scared nintendo so they shit out samus returns. GG reggie-san

>>387708624
Why does this statement trigger some of you fags so much
"I'd love to make more 2D Metroid, as long as it sells well"

"SAKAMOTO WANTS ME TO BUY METROID GAMES?! THE FUCKING HEATHEN!"

No really? HUR DUR.

>more 2D Metroid
>Sakamoto

MONKEY PAAAAAAW

>>387717545
I ain't mad. I'm amused. How much you're bending your brain to come up with thought processes that could somehow explain why Prime is a Spin-Off title.
And the reason is Sakamoto, who hasn't worked on Prime. Great.
You know prior to Other M, Sakamoto only worked on 4 Metroid games, one being a remake. Retro Studios worked on 3 Metroid games. They also helped with the Hunter Spin-Off. So why Sakamoto > Retro? Because he made Other M? That piece of shit?

>>387717718
Primefags are mad

>>387717751
>>387710853

Metroid fans HAVE to be the most retarded fan base on /v/

>>387717878
Why? They're getting a new prime too.

Japanese business practices are so fucking scummy and anti-consumer. It's no wonder they're so culturally stagnant and repressed over there.

>>387711095
Any examples of that not being the case?

>>387717847
Because in Japan if you've been involved in a series for a long time, and the rest of the guy you worked with are gone guess what, you become the head of that game franchise. Tanabe answers to Sakamoto, sorry if this hurts your feelings, Primebaby.

>>387717968
They're entitled and the worst part of the Metroid fanbase.

>>387718074
Anouma, Koizumi.


KOJIMA.

lol millennial's and their metroid prime. never gets old.

>>387718105
And what do the inner workings of Nintendo and the philosophy of japanese business have to do with Metroid Prime?
Metroid Prime transitioned the series from 2D to 3D with a tale that was a sequel to Metroid. Metroid Prime then received 2 more sequels.
It featured Samus Aran.
It featured Metroids.
It featured the Galactic Federation.
It featured Space Pirates.
It featured Ridley.
What is it that seperates Prime from a mainline title?
>durrrr it's 3D
So is Other M and the soon to be released Samus Returns. What's your point?

Why does Metroid invite such ridiculous vitriol and shit-flinging? I've never seen any other franchise cause this much chaos.

>>387718889
Prime is a First-person Adventure
Metroid is a 2D action adventure
Other M isn't part of anything might as well call it non-canon.

>>387718895
Halo

>>387719138
Metroid is a 2D action adventure.
Metroid Prime is a 3D action adventure.
Metroid Prime Pinball is a 2D pinball game.
Metroid Other M is a 3D action adventure.
Metroid Samus Returns is a 3D action adventure.

What does 2D / 3D have to do with a title's status as mainline or spin-off?

>>387708624
Put some Metroid on the Switch and then we're talking business. I'm not buying a fucking 3DS.

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>>387717718
Because it's basically trying to guilt people into buying a non 2d Metroid made by 3rd tier devs in a remake no one wanted when every damn Metroid fan was telling them to just make another 2d Metroid to begin with, then maybe, MAYBE they'll give you what you have wanted for over a decade.
It's bullshit, if they wanted to make one they would already have made it instead of Federation Force and 2.5d remake.
They are never going to make another 2d Metroid again, if they "intended" to and Samus Returns sells very well then they'll tell themselves what people really want is another Metroid just like it, just look at how well it did! If it doesn't they'll tell themselves, people don't want Metroid anymore.
Other people have said similar empty words about depending on how well "current title" sells they might consider giving the long time fans something they have always wanted and it has never happened, exactly what I said is always how it turns out, if doesn't sell it's dead if it does it goes the new direction following the sales, no series has never gone backwards once a new direction has been chosen like Nintendo has with Metroid.
Nintendo has already decided to kill 2d Metroid, this is just trying to dupe Metroid fans who might not pick up this title into buying it in hopes of a hopeless situation.

>>387718895

ACfag wanting desperately to hold on to the world record for longest continuous single 'tism fit. He's going on nearly eight years now.

>>387708624

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! GOODBYE SAMUS!

>>387718895
All Mega Man fans have done for years is whine that they only got 20 something games in their franchise.

>>387719395
>Samus Returns
>3D
Just because it's made with polygons doesn't mean it's 3D, Anon. It's a 2D game.

>>387718895
Mega Man
Sonic
And the worst of all fanbases: Smash

>>387719795
>Just because it's made with polygons doesn't mean it's 3D
That's exactly what it means though. Threedimensional means that the space utilized in-game is being constructed via three axis, while 2D only has two.
Samus Returns is 3D. It has traditional Metroid gameplay, which we associate with 2D Metroid titles, but Samus Returns is 3D.

>>387709598
That guy spent 10 years of his life into it and the game's sole flaws and limitations were due to the fact that it was a remake of Metroid 2. It added features that the series had needed for ages like a dedicated morph ball button. It actually had fucking controller support since Nintendo felt the need to relegate 2D Metroid to portables since 2000.

>>387719628
+1

I want another 2D metroid
I do not want Sakamoto to make another metroid game.

this is quite the conundrum

>>387720060

You sound pretty autistic. How old were you when you were diagnosed?

>>387719395
>Metroid Other M is a 3D action adventure.
>Other M canon
>Metroid Samus Returns is a 3D action adventure.
>Samus Returns not 2D Action Adventure
Kill yourself

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>>387709598
>let's shitpost because i'm bored haha

>>387720309
78.
>>387720347
See >>387720060

>>387708624
Is this the trend now? Threating to kill beloved series if the next game/some spinoff doesnt sell like hotcakes?

Fuck this industry.

>>387709762
Nice try, primefag. I'm buying this because I want more 2D games in the futurre, not some fanmake shit.

>>387720060
>Different art style makes it a different genre

>>387720708
3D is not an artstyle, you dumb fuck.
Go read a math book or something.

>>387720468

The video game industry has been like that for years.

Remember when Dead Space 3 came out EA admitted it would have to sell some impossibly high number of copies (somewhere in the ballpark of a couple million) just to break even and then they basically killed the series when it predictably didn't even come close?

>>387720410
It's 2D

>>387709762
People will buy Metroid Samus Returns and then we'll get Metroid Dread while Metroid Prime 4 will bomb and kill the Prime series, kill yourself and enjoy your shitty Prime franchise dying off while the 2D game continue, fucking Primefag.

>>387720953
>It's 2D
Then explain to me how they achieve the effect or stereoscopy within Samus Returns, if it is 2D.

>>387718215
>aonuma made a bad game
aaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha

>fucking KOIZUMI made a bad game
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shitposting here is getting more and more hilarious

>>387721060
You are a fucking moron.
2D and 3D don't refer to the graphical style. It never has. It's always referred to the type of movement you've had in a game.

>>387721538
You're*

>>387720814
The games play exactly the same. The addition of a 3rd dimension is nothing but decoration and therefore comparable to a change in art style. You seem to think that a complete cosmetic change makes the game a different genre.

>>387708624
>remake of a game that has been made by one faggot who did it for fee
>lock shit behind amiibos
>Other M suit
Sakamoto can suck it. He needs to redeem himself first.
He's probably trying to relive his past glory

>>387715947
>2D Metroid
>not casual
???

>>387721538
Yeah, sure. That's what 2D and 3D has always refered to.
Even before Videogames existed. The whole thing about different dimensions? Yeah, they only came up with that shit after /v/ coined the terms 2D and 3D to explain gameplay types. Sure.

Samus Returns is 3D.

>>387721724
So the genre is now the defining factor if we wanna differentiate between mainline and sideline?
Then what's Fusion? It's certainly not your typical Metroidvania. What's with Other M? That is like a really bad character action game.

>>387721750
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
I was obviously talking only about video games. You know this, yet you chose to act retarded.
I think this debate is over.

>>387721538
This

>>387715416
It already exists

>>387721741
Primefag

>>387721942
No. When did I say that? I'm just saying that you are a retard for implying that a cosmetic change is enough to change a game's genre.

>>387722123
There never was a debate to begin with.
Everyone's arguing that Prime is a Spin-Off instead of a mainline title. But nobody was able or willing to present a deciding factor which could be used to determine which games are Spin-Offs and which are mainline.

>>387722386
That's funny, I thought we were arguing over the definition of 2D and 3D.

>>387722525
We got there after a while. Initially it was about the question whether Prime is main or side. Whatever, this is getting tiring.

>>387710406
Factually wrong

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>>387708624
Yeah, not paying $40 for a crappy looking remake when there was a better fan-project coming out, especially when the game comes with overpriced DLC (with artificial physical rarity) for basic features like a hard mode.

There are independent Metroidvania games that are solid and not held back by Nintendo's weird policies, censorship, etc.

I'd much rather get any of the numerous and often DRM-free independent games that cost half whatever Nintendo is trying to charge.

Hollow Knight, Ori and the Blind Forest, Owlboy, Cave Story, Axiom Verge, (Sundered wasn't good despite some great animations and I'd advise skipping it.)

I feel that other people could do a bounty-hunting mobile-robot-suit wearing woman better than Nintendo is currently capable of doing.

Metroid Prime and most of the Metroid games were fun and I hope the new ones are good games, but I'm skipping Samus Returns personally.

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>>387723156
>crappy looking
you bait is awful

>Samus Returns Has A Hard Mode That Can Unlocked Without Amiibo Assures Nintendo

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These threads are always a hoot.
Love the excuses of not supporting Nintendo's IP Metroid and the two upcoming games for it because of a "fangame" being DMCA and Other M.

Whats the excuse for the lack of support for Metroid before 7th gen? You would think such a "high quality" series would atleast have over 20 million sales total in span of all these years.

>>387724437
>you bait is awful
It looks bad to me anon, not trying to bait.

>Samus Returns Has A Hard Mode That Can Unlocked Without Amiibo

First google result from http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-26-metroid-samus-returns-has-exclusive-content-for-four-amiibo:

"The standard hard mode can be unlocked in game, while Fusion Difficulty, which is just a bit harder and lets Samus wear her turquoise Fusion suit, will require an Amiibo." That is only one of four different amiibo exclusive basic features anon.

>>387724718
I also dislike their video policies, their random censorship, and as far as Metroid goes Other M was garbage and I'm pissed that I picked that up on Day 1. A particular IP having some low quality games isn't unique to Nintendo, but I'm not going to latch on to a bad (to me) looking game that has already given me reasons to not pick it up before it is even released.

>>387708976
>Game doesn't see
>Welp, no one REALLY wants it anymore
>Jap logic
Kill yourself

but I hate Sakamoto and I think he is a god damn incompetent hack fraud just like Kojimbo and George Lucas and the Naughty Dog SJWs.

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>a Metroid game
>seeing actual support

Good joke, nigga

>>387721225
>aonuma
Marvelous: Mōhitotsu no Takarajima
>koizumi
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat

Of course that's just one game each, so they are obviously not as incompetent as Kojimbo.

>Metroid game
>selling
lol

>>387712451
The /v/ fanbase