*blocks your path*

Yeah, uh, hand over your ores or it'll get ugly, alright?

eins auf die fresse

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>>387683028
>Doppelganger enters your realm through space-time vortex in order to replace you
>What do
Wish it was a real feathure.

>>387683028
I'm diego

>>387683028
I would say: "Hey du! Zeig mir deine Ware, sonst gibt's was auf's Maul!"

That would serve him right.

>>387684551
>>387684063
Gothic was really popular in Germany I guess?

>>387684586
Well, it's one of the few good German games. The rest is shit like forklift simulator.

ICH BIN DIEGO

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>>387683028
Wie oft hab' ich euch Pennern gesagt, rennt nicht durch meine Hütte.

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>>387684586
In Germany and Eastern Europe, Morrowind vs Gothic was a thing for more than 10 years here by now.

>>387684692
oh shit, I didn't even realize it's German! that definitely explains it.

>>387684586
Almost as much as forklift simulator.

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>>387683028
*blocks YOUR path*

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>>387685018
You are like a little baby

>>387684820
Gothic's unironically better in every possible way.

>>387685281
It's shorter and the world design is much less original

>>387685363
It's KWALITY over QUAN-TITTY, anon

>>387685363
Quality > Quantity

:^)

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>>387685415
>>387685431
The Devil is in the details.

>>387685281
just because they're both fantasy why compare them? they're totally different games.

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>>387684820
i played the shit out of Morrowind, Gothic and Gothic II: Night of the Raven.

when oblivion and Gothic III were released a i was shocked as i came to realize that there was never going to be a worthy sequel.

Gothic III became a playable game after the big 2008 community patch to 1.6

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>>387684780
>Ein witziger Kerl...
>Ich mag keine witzigen Kerle...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z_dDtELQPE

>>387685363
>the world design is much less original
it's much more real, down to earth believable

>>387685632
> YUUUGE world to explore
> great design
> okay story
> nice combat
> pretty graphics
Is it me, or G3 wasn't actually that bad?

>>387685734
It's a matter of preference. I love both.

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Will they deliver a decent game this time ? Risen 1 was solid and Risen 2 was an alright game with Risen 3 being sub-decent in every aspect

>>387685651
Na dem hast du's aber gezeigt

>>387685796
It will be shit

STECK DIE SCHEISS WAFFE WEG!

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>>387685851
Scheiße, nicht mal Erz dabei!

>>387685651
I can't tell, are the voiced lines better quality in German or is just as hilariously bad?

>>387685589
well, morrowind just won. go home everyody

>>387683028
Should I go New Camp or Swampbros for G1? I tried the Old Camp a long time ago but had to stop playing halfway because a bug killed my progress

>>387685913
It's good. But it doesn't take itself too seriously, which makes the funny writing and voice acting work really well with the otherwise rather grim setting of the colony.

>>387685751
>huge world
huuuuuuuuuuuge uninteresting, forest/desert/snowy mountains with kilometers of nothing in between them
>design
in what way?
>okay story
the story in all Gothics was always very average, what sold the game was the way NPCs lived and react, the way factions worked, many sidequests... etc, which was all removed in 3
>nice combat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ-xJWkSAHk
the pinnacle of combat design
>pretty graphics
I guess they decided to focus only on that.

add the thousands of bugs, the shitty way factions works now, and unoptimized piece of garbage, and you are talking to a guy who bought this shit at released

>>387685589
Morrowind fans are such insufferable spergs.

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>>387686067
Old camp > New Camp > No Camp > Sektenspinner

>>387685913
Basically what >>387686072 said, but it also helps that German really fits the rough atmosphere of Gothic in general.
German is king of being HART UND KANTIG, and that is what every dude in Gothic is.

>>387686157
ugh I really liked the Old Camp the best but I don't want to go through the exact same content again

I guess I'll go New Camp this time, they seemed like assholes though

>>387686084
And people will put it all on the publisher, but I am pretty sure G3 was just too ambitious in scope for both the developer and their publisher.

>>387686096
>best parts of RPGs
>hurr durr autism

>>387683028
>prisoners have to mine the ore
I guess we really were Arbeit Macht Frei.

Reminder that Risen is LITERALLY Gothic 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_nMOiO3kHs
Original development concept for the intro of Risen. Literally starts where Gothic 3 ends.
They scrubbed the Nameless and Xardas part in the final product due to all the legal fuckery going on with Gothic at the time.

>>387685796
>Risen 3 worse than 2
What's your major fucking malfunction faggot?
Risen 3 was step in the right direction again, but its still marred by some shitty design decisions forced by the kike publishers.
Seriously fuck Deep Silver.
I wish Nordic had bought Piranha instead of Deep Silver.

>>387686067
New Camp = Old Camp > Power Gap > Power Gap 2.0 > Swampstoners
Old Camp and New Camp people form new factions in Gothic 2 meanwhile Swampstoners become braindead zombie enemies in it, that's how useless theya re.

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>>387685751
Gothic III vanilla was a dead buggy shell of a game that could have been legendary.

But it felt like a alpha full of game and immersion breaking mistakes and bugs.

>>387685589
That DraQ guy seems like a total bro, why every cool name has to be taken already :_;

>>387686613
New camp = bandit scum
Old camp = Civilized humans
Don't ever put an equal sign between the two.

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>>387686312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8N8JOqnA7k
Watch this, it sheds a lot of light on development of G3.
It comes with English subs.
I suggest watching the entire series of videoarticles about Gothic because it's some really amazing journalist work:
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuvISO5qGG8
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwhltafMJTw
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8N8JOqnA7k
Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9bJMEbHP8g
Part 4.5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3djEYZ7_pBc
Part 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmtKkHAWOiM

>>387683028
>small studio makes Gothic 5
>nameless hero is now called Gothic

>>387686824
Piranha still has exclusive rights to the franchise thankfully.

>>387685751
Gothic 3 was a repetitive shitfest
I wouldn't play it more than once

>>387685751
>>387686915
Tbh Gothic 3 is quite great but only if you install the Community Patch, Update Pack, Quest Pack and Content Mod.
Only with all of these combined, does it actually truly feel like a Gothic game.

>>387686552
the combat got much worse in Risen 3, voice actor sounded like he's been a lifelong smoker, party members who are barely characters (Venturo/Chani were much more fleshed out, quality over quantity). The faction system which Piranha Bytes is known for is of course much better

>TFW can't visit sect camp in G2
>YWN experience madness that took place there

>>387687192
Combat is straight up better than R2 though, what the fuck are you smoking son? It's basically R2.5 in terms of combat.
Party members aren't equal, some are good, some are shit.
Mendoza best tsundere waifu.

>>387687246
Doesn't LHiver make it explorable again?
The devs did plan to let you explore there but had limited resources so they walled off a chunk of G1 territory in G2.

https://youtu.be/1PcUQQOODv0

>>387687293
Risen 2 punished you severely when mashing attack button, you had to pay attention to enemy's attack animation as not everything played the same. In Risen 3 it was doable
But the worst aspect of Risen 3 was being able to kill Dragon Snappers at level 1 easily, it just lacked that power-spike in Gothic 1&2/Risen 1&2

>>387687457
FInally a completely unbiased comparison. :^)

Ich glaube ich hau dir erstmal eins auf's Maul

>>387687192
I stopped playing Risen 3 cause Patty bugged out and vanished for me

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>>387687457
>all them dislikes

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>>387687801

>>387687457
The dislikes from Morroshills are delicious

>>387683028
Anyone else played Gothic games so much that you are proficient voice imitators?

>>387688348
ICH BIN DIEGO

>>387688421
>PUT DA DAMN WEAPON AWAY

>>387683028
Am I a monster for killing Mud.

>>387688716
Yes. He just wanted to be your friend. What have you done.

>>387683028
c marvin c f2 k enter

>>387688716
Everybody kills him. You don't even get punished by guards for doing so.

>>387688421
>Ich bin...
>MICH
>INTERESSIERT
>NICHT
>WER
>DU
>BIST

I swear to God whenever someone introduces themselves to me with "My name is" my brain wants me to respond with that Gothic phrase...

>>387688830
>not just clicking F8 a few times

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>>387688348
>what accursed god could ever allow despicable creatures such as you to walk this earth

>>387687192
Where's that from?

>>387687457
>unbiased video
>still, all these dislikes
Man, TES fags are even more pathetic than I thought.

>>387688421
Diego ist der oberste Erzbaron.

>>387689076
TESfags are autists, what can you do.

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>>387689397
You'd think that with all this autism and Bethesda's inability to design a good game they would have modded it to become good mechanically, as opposed to increasing the draw distance in Balmora, but nope.

>>387689506
>as opposed to increasing the draw distance in Balmora
I love how the video was unbiased to the point that it even ran Morrowind with all the graphics mods so it would look better than G2 with DX11 visually.

Elex will suck shit, PB doesn't deserve to even speak of remaking G1 and G2. Wait for Tales of Khorinis if you're a diehard fan of the series.

>tfw PB is a twohitwonder and Gothic 1 and 2 will forever be their only good games

>>387690004
>I never played Risen 1: The post
KYS

>>387690087
I did, but it was shit.

>>387690004
>tfw PB is a onehitwonder and Gothic 1 will forever be their only good game

fix'd

>>387687192
>combat better in Risen 2 than Risen 3
What the fuck? it's literally garbage, and melee is shit

>>387690380
Combat in all PB games after Gothic 2 is shit.
In Risen 1 you can just circle everything and cheese it this way, in 2 you can roll forever and shoot shit til it dies. Combat in Risen 3 is shit as well cause it's just an enemy spam like Gothic 3.

>>387690256
>good game
dotafags...

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>>387683028
Hey, Mann! Neu hier? Dich hab' ich hier noch nie gesehen. Wenn du nichts dagegen hast, komme ich ein Stück mit. Du kannst sicher einen Freund brauchen.

>>387690475
I think from the Risen series for me it's 1>>>>>3>>>>>>>>>>2 in terms of pretty much everything. At least the first game had shields. Shame they went full pirate setting after, I just don't think it fits well. Gotta admit, at least they went all in with that setting. Exploring the jungle in 2 was solid.

Looks like I'll reinstall R1 again.

>>387690148
Your taste is the only thing that's shit.

>>387690769
I'm not the one pretending that Risen 1 is good when it's just a poor Gothic clone.

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>>387690854
It's your last.

>>387690769
>>387690920
>unironically defending risen

>>387690854
>clone
It's made by the same devs and it's pretty much a continuation of Gothic.

I just wish the MC's face wasn't so shitty.

>>387691412
It's not a continuation of Gothic, Arcania is.
My point is that PB doesn't know how to make a game differently from Gothic.

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>>387691606
>Arcania
please don't remind me of that abomination

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>>387690606
HOW IS HE ABLE TO SIMPLY WALK UP TO GOMEZ UNHARMED?!
EVERYONE ELSE WOULD BE GUTTED, BUT HE IS JUST RUNNING AROUND IN THE INNER OLD CAMP, THIS MADE ME SO MAD!

>>387691779
He's Gomez's fucktoy

>>387687801

Had the same bug. Summon a creature like the hellhound, that will make her spawn at her original Location.

>>387691827
but gomez is one of the few men in the camp who has access to real women. What I'm saying is Mud must be fucking dynamite in the sack

>>387685796
Looking at the gameplay videos released so far it might be atleast better than Risen 2 and Risen 3