Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree it was #4theplayers?

inb4 ur just poor

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It's 10 fucking dollars more! God

>>387647756
Don't you mean
>#4thepayers

>>387647756
Now I see why they had that ps4 themed gay pride parade. You gotta do some virtue signaling for the press before you turn around and fuck your consumer base barebone in the ass.

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Reminder that there are sonyfaggots on /v/ and neogaf who are defending this out of brand loyalty

>>387648525
Only reason sony won't do is cause PlayStation players have to make a Xbox Live account to crossplay

>>387648719
Only for minecraft. Not for third party games like ark or rocket league.

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>>387648525
remember shitposter kun

>>387648775
>B-BUT NINTENDO
Every time.

>>387648719
No, the only reason Sony won't do it is because they're the top dog this gen in terms of raw sales and they want to keep a closed ecosystem as a selling point for the system (i.e. if you want to play with your PS4-having friends you better fucking buy a PS4)

MS would have done the same shit last gen if it were broached. Corporations act in their interests, we shouldn't defend them for it.

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lol

>>387648775
actually, it's more like
>anons in high school were poor as fuck then
>now they grew up and got jobs and have disposable income and don't mind paying relatively small fees

>>387648914
So you are just going to ignore that you have to log in to xbox live on Switch for minecraft crossplay?

>>387648719
Sony won't do it because there winning right now. They have no incentive to do it and only lose money by allowing it. There are a massive amount of normalfags who bought a PS4 because there friends own one and thats the only way to play with them.

As this anon said >>387648773
Thats only Minecraft an IP which Microsoft owns.

>Current state of console wars is literally Sony vs. everyone else
You guys are just making it worse for yourselves in the long run.

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>>387648820
that shows nintendo and sony fans defending paid online
it makes more sense for you too call me a mircocock or pcbro but ok

>>387649019
I'd argue that it's for it rather than against it. MS is doing what it feels it can with its chokehold on minecraft, a benefit it doesn't have with third party devs. You don't need to register a Live account for, say, Rocket League.

Meanwhile, Sony is defending a general prohibition on cross-play, which is even worse than cross-play with hurdles (hurdles which only exist, by the way, on an MS-owned IP)

>>387647756
If they increase the prices again without adding more features, I will drop them and make the full commitment to turning my toaster into a machine that can play more than indie pixel shit.

>>387648954
none of it is ok
it's bad when sony does it it's bad when nintendo does it also bad if mircosoft does it

>>387649019
One game that Microsoft owns not allowing crossplay does not explain why there is no crossplay with games like Rocket League which are crossplay on Switch/Xbone/PC without an XBL account.

>>387649185
>Implying there aren't multiple threads made every hour shitting on Nintendo
Literally cry fucking harder. Everyone hates your pathetic fanbase, and you have no one to blame but yourselves.

>>387648914
Switch is beating the dogshit out of phony and they had No problem allowing it.

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>>387649170
>Sony is defending a general prohibition on cross-play
No it depends on the implementation.
Don't mind the flame-baity nature of this image but it is actually true that you can play crossplay on these BY Sony's own allowance of it.
Sony isn't against it as a stance.

>>387648954
Continue to get fucked by your corporate overlords anon.

>>387649430
The Switch is doing well but is on the upswing where it needs every selling point it can. Sony is generally the established top dog by volume and benefits the most from prospective consumers having to join their system to play with their friends.

I have a Switch. I just finished a round of Rainmaker. That doesn't change the fact that cross-play is a plus for the switch while Sony considers it a minus for their sales.

>>387649557
Yes, but the difference is that Sony is defending its closedness from it while Nintendo and MS are starting to embrace it, albeit for self-serving reasons.

>>387649685
So we can agree that Sony is not doing Cross-play with other consoles for understandable reasons.
They are only doing crossplay with PC where the game won't be imbalanced it would seem.

>>387649685
>>387649557
Sorry, forgot the quote I was going to include from an interview with Jim Ryan (the same guy who claimed "who would [want]" backwards compatibility on the implication that older games are shit)

> Unfortunately it's a commercial discussion between ourselves and other stakeholders, and I'm not going to get into the detail of that on this particular instance. And I can see your eyes rolling.

In laymans terms, he's saying that investors don't want to hear that there's one less reason to buy a PS4 because any system can play with your PS4-having friends.

>>387648013
kys

>>387649430
The Switch really does not overlap with the other consoles the way the PS4/Xbone do. It has its own niche with the whole portable thing and does not share a massive amount of multiplats like the PS4/Xbone do. The dudebro CoD, FIFA audience is also probably not interested in the least bit in the switch.

>>387649818
ok

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>>387649801
>Understandable reasons
Sure. Money as a motivation is understandable.

Doesn't make it noble. They're doing it to fuck you, same as MS was the first to fuck players out of money for online gaming, same as Sony previously fucked players out of money for extra control ports because another 2 were too fucking "expensive" to put in the PS4, and same as Nintendo fucked Europe via price-fixing in the 90s and early 2000s.

No corporation is your friend. You can have a favorite console and not defend its makers shitty business decisions.

>>387647756
>Europe
Thank goodness I live in the land of the free

>>387648003
more like sonnygers just like xbots are too poor to afford a console that launch at $700.

>>387650095
Sorry, meant the PS2 for the Sony reply. I hoped this would be obvious for anyone who needed a multitap, but with the kiddies these days you can never be too careful.

>>387650095
>They're doing it to fuck you
Can't get behind this. To fuck me? Nah. To protect their platform? Yes.
The more they can invest in their platform the better for me.

Why the fuck are fanboys even here. It's the same shit but more expensive. There are no new features that come with the new price. How is this defendable in any way?

>>387650329

>Sony should take more of my money for no good reason except a sense of the "greater good"

Lol ok, be sure to buy Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered next yesr.

>>387650432
Wtf are you talking about? We are talking about crossplay here you fucking retard.

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>paying to use the internet that you already pay for

>>387650645
It's the same basic idea, don't defend shitty business practices because you like a given system the most.

If you trust a company so much that you think them taking another ten bucks a year from you will make the games better, might as well donate more, you fucking retard.

Sony can make a good console at points, that doesn't change the fact that some of their business practices have been downright anti-consumer and that their consoles have first and foremost consistently been optical media vehicles to help the rest of the company do better properly.

Nintendo and MS do shitty stuff too as I've evidenced, but I figured since you're on the Sony knob specifically you needed more detail.

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>>387650715
lmao, look at this poor PCbro. Maybe if you didn't just pirate everything like some third-world nigger, or actually got a job instead of some autism allowance from mommy and daddy, you'd learn the joys of spending hard-earned money.

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>>387650715

>>387650787
Anti consumer is just a buzzword it seems, since besides paid online, I can't think of one anti consumer thing about Sony that nintendo and microsoft doesn't do 10 times worse
They're selling a cheap console with great games that I want to play
There's no always online, I can sell my games and my system anytime and so on
There's no content locked behind fucking toys
Crossplay is on for some games, but since when is fucking crossplay something not extremely rare?

>>387650715

it's even worse, they are paying to have access to online features from games that don't even use Sony servers in the first place.

>>387651098
Do you know what anti consumer means? They've been untrustworthy since the PSN hack and let hackers use consumer credit cards and personal info

>>387651269
Yup just a buzzword
That's not something they wanted to happen you mental case

>>387651098
>They're selling a cheap console with great games that I want to play

Last gen, $599

>There's no always online, I can sell my games and my system anytime and so on
MS tried to do this and this is the major reason Sony took such a strong lead this gen due to early momentum, but don't dare imagine they wouldn't have done the same coming out of last gen if the 360 didn't do so much better overall on profitability (the PS3 was a lifetime loser)

>There's no content locked behind fucking toys

Mostly because Sony doesn't really own first party titles, and amiibo content tends to be less significant (not that I give a shit, I still think Amiibos are anti-consumer and write NFC tags to get the content instead)

>Crossplay is on for some games, but since when is fucking crossplay something not extremely rare?

With consoles homogenizing and online play becoming simpler, it's becoming increasingly feasible, and Sony is the primary party holding it back.

>>387650787
>It's the same basic idea, don't defend shitty business practices because you like a given system the most.
This is solely based on installbase you retard. If you are going to limit your own system by sharing the installbase then the 'investments' will come through a way shittier avenue.
>If you trust a company so much that you think them taking another ten bucks a year from you will make the games better, might as well donate more, you fucking retard.
Wtf are you even talking about. I never talked about anything like that. If i get a better product then i will choose that option. If you don't think that way then you are the one to blame for why games are shit.
>some of their business practices have been downright anti-consumer
Anti-consumer in what way exactly? Anti-consumer for you because you are an advanced electronics user who could spin up your own operating system to use the hardware however you want? Or anti-consumer in the sense that you as a consumer have to spend more money to do mundane things.
If you are talking about the second one then enlighten me as to what exactly you are talking about then. Doesn't sound like cross-play to me.
>Nintendo and MS do shitty stuff too as I've evidenced, but I figured since you're on the Sony knob specifically you needed more detail.
What a productive post. How about you spit out the bitter shit you have in your mouth and stay on topic/stay intellectually honest.

>Own a PS4
>Honestly feel embarrassed to own it because the fanbase is absolutely irredeemably cancerous
>/v/ honestly feels like browsing NeoGAF at times

>>387651357
playstation has some of the most crossplatform games though

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>>387651470
>The ironing

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>>387651384
>Wtf are you even talking about. I never talked about anything like that. If i get a better product then i will choose that option. If you don't think that way then you are the one to blame for why games are shit.

Gonna throw your own words back at you, assuming you're the same poster through the chain.


>Can't get behind this. To fuck me? Nah. To protect their platform? Yes.
>The more they can invest in their platform the better for me.

I.e. the more money Sony has the better the platform is for you, so you're totally fine with paying more for online.

>>387651357
>Last gen, $599
That was pro consumer they lost money with every sale of the PS3
They were ambitious, not anti consumer, that's pro consumer if anything
Also they dropped the price fast, losing even more money
About crossplay, where's the source on any of that?
Crossplay being easy (sounds like bullshit) and that Sony is holding it back?
How?
By having the most crossplay games supported?

>>387651470
No, no, don't you know that /v/ is NintendoGAF you stupid idi*t? If you're not sucking Sony's dick 100% time while simultaneously bashing everything else, it's obviously because you're just an immature manchild that just can't get over Nintendo and its children's toys.

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>europoors
holy fuck, BTFO

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>>387651578
No you said that Sony is limiting cross-play to "fuck me".
That was the statement i couldn't get behind.
You are saying that the intent behind limiting it is to fuck the consumer. This is the most unproductive stance to take on this as there is literally no platformholder who would want to fuck their consumer for no other reason than fucking them.

You are using your words wrong.

>>387651646
>That was pro consumer they lost money with every sale of the PS3

Only because they screwed the pooch with the cell, a project that basically subsidized IBM research.

Also, the PS3 was a loss leader because they mistakenly thought they could sell blu-rays for $50-$06 a pop, which they quickly found they couldn't.

If they didn't try to cram the PS3 full of gimmicky bullshit like the Blu-ray player (which largely didn't matter because most consumers didn't have a good enough TV for blu-ray over the gen and didn't matter for games because most games didn't use enough space to necessitate it) the system could have been better and cheaper.

>>387651553
>A thread posted later in the day has faster posts because more people are around than one made in the morning
>100 post difference
Wow, you sure showed me. Next you're going to say that sales don't matter in Japan unless you want to post about that one week where PS4 beat Switch because of Dragon Quest where Japan totally matters now that it fits my agenda.

>>387651098
>>387651384
>sonygros are so deluded that they're unironically defending this

>>387651828
Not you specifically, they're trying to fuck players who might, say, prefer the Xbone's controller or hardware, but will have to "put up" with buying a PS4 if they want to play with their friends who already own PS4s.

Whereas MS/Nintendo/PC, you can buy what you like and play with people who buy what they like, no restrictions.

>>387647756
nintendo's online is like half of what their old price was lmao

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>>387651908
you guys said sony is more anti consumer than nintendo and mircosoft now we are trying to prove you wrong

>>387651867
One wasn't fragrant flame warring and got deleted while the /v/tendogaf shitfest toddler thread was blatant and fragrant fanboy falseflag shitflinging that managed to hit bump limit and got archived.

>>387648003
>paying for online

>>387651980
ps4 has the most crossplatform games
vita has more crossplatform than xbox
and nintendo only has one

>>387652076
>Sales threads
>Not fragrant flame warring
>b-but WE'RE the victims!
Thanks for reassuring my previous statement of how owning a PS4 is embarrassing when I know fags like you own it too.

>>387652241
Crossplatform between what? In-ecosystem doesn't really count that much, if I own an Xbone I don't care if the Vita and PS4 can crossplay with each other.

>>387652052
This place is so nintendogaf it's getting pathetic
These people fucking think it's impressive that Zelda, the biggest series ever, barely outsold a brand new IP (horizon zero dawn)
They're really delusional

>>387652309
pc

>>387652052
Pretty sure that one guy who said that only said it regarding cross-platform play, which is true.

Not to say it's not a smart move, because it is. But it's anti-consumer because it entirely benefits them and does nothing for you, the end user.

>>387651980
Or maybe Sony deems those products insufficient in quality to be used on the platform?
One thing is certain and that is that your subjective opinion on what is and isn't up to Sony's standard is nothing but your own opinion and not objective fact.
Let me guess you are also one of those retards who think there should be no exclusive games in the industry because it is anti-consumer right?

>>387652321
>>This place is so nintendogaf it's getting pathetic
/v/ hasn't been NintendoGAF in years, cry harder you pathetic drone.
>B-BUT IT WAS HER TURN!!!
Maybe you fuckers should have pushed and meme'd HZD as a Zelda killer if you faggots wanted to actually get people interested and discuss it.

>>387650118
They raised prices in Europe because prices in the US were raised a few months ago.

>>387652321
>Sonygros whining about being called out on their bullshit when they're the most cancerous console fanbase
>B-BUT MUH NINTENDO

>>387652242

>Post sales numbers without saying anything about any products
Same as
>FUCK YOU SONY FAGGOTS
hmmmm
>toddler logic

>>387652371
It's not anti consumer
That's like saying everygame not having a mutliplayer mode is anti consumer, just because you decided that's the norm

>>387652321
people did say it was gonna be the zelda killer but most of that was flaseflagging
>>387652371
but playstation users can play with pc players
more than nintendo and xbox combined

>>387652521
When the game is created with the capability for cross platform play, and Sony blocks it on their console, it is anti-consumer.

Are you brain damaged, or just that deluded?

>>387652491
>>387652496
>w-we've always been braindead drones
I'm well aware, but nintendobabies used to just post about their kids games, now they're so triggered by sony it's all they do
It ruins this board and every thread boils down to talking about Sony
>>387652676
How is my experience hurt by not having crossplay? Is the game worse? And again, ps4 has the most crossplay games

>>387652498
>Someone says that they feel embarrassed to own a PS4 because of drones
>Proceed to sperg out and post retarded shit
>i-i'm the good guy though...

>>387647756
Time to sell my PS4 for a Switch, since the online will be $30 cheaper. Only online shit I even care for on ps4 is overwatch, and that's not a good game

>>387647756
I don't even know why I'm paying for this. I don't play multiplayer games. I guess it mostly pays for itself when I buy games in sales.

>>387652868
>We don't actually ruin threads, everyone else does!
Yeah, uh-huh. Keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile in Monster Hunter threads, for every 1 anti-Sony comment there is, there's about 15 anti-Nintendo posts, as well as multiple Nintendo wojaks.

>>387652868
You really are just that deluded, eh?

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>>387647756

>let in millions of muslims
>be surprised when your currency turns to shit.

>>387653097
yeah, it pays for itself if you're going to get something on sale anyways

I was going to get GTA V+gws card because it was on sale and turned out I would save more by getting 1 month of plus than the 1 month cost

>>387648918
I'm going to need some background information here

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>>387652874
>Someone says PS4 drones are the worst fanbase
>Post average nintendo fan shit that goes way beyond any example of anything a PS4 drone would ever post
>Y-YOU ARE THE BAD GUY!!

>>387653362
It's $60 a year in the US

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>>387653909
>>that goes way beyond any example of anything a PS4 drone would ever post

>>387653617
I...LOVE...KIKES

>>387654028
Post 1 (one) example.

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>>387654215

>>387654076
boycott plus anon

>Thread about Sony being bad
>Turns into people trying to scapegoat Nintendo
Just another Sony thread I guess.

>>387648525
>Wanting to do anything with Xgroids

Fuck that

>>387655063
nobody is scapegoating
we are proving people wrong about sony being anti consumer when it comes to crossplatform
sony has the more crossplatform titles with pc than xbox nintendo only has 1 minecraft

>>387654738
>Any of that shit even remotely comparable
You should take a peak at >>387651553 again you retard.

>>387654738
PS4 is only in 2 of those images and it isn't the most blatant falseflag to represent the other side as something fucking disgusting. It is literally just an objective numbers comparison.
How can you say that is worse?

>>387655769
>Thread is about Sony increasing the price of PS+
>b-but it's actually about this...

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>There people who play MMOs on consoles
>People pay to use the internet to pay to use the internet to pay to use the internet

>>387657170
somebody said sony is anticonsumer when it comes to crossplatform but i proved them wrong
and why are you not saying anything to the other people who are not talking about the price of PS+

Sony loses in every situation
The more companies come out and admit Sony has been holding us back the worse they look, the more Sony tries to defend it by claiming the other companies have worse security than them the worse they look, if they do allow cross play then they lose whatever they were fighting for.
Fucking hell DQ10 is cross play on all systems but Sony requires you to pay more for the sub on their system and it doesn't cover the sub fee for the other versions.

>>387657439
>must pay 15 dollar goy fee to do daily garrison shit and afk in city

>>387647756
if you want to blame someone blame microsoft

>>387657439
f2p and subscription games don't require PS Plus.

>>387658294
Wait, really?

>>387658584
Yeah. You can play Final Fantasy XIV on Playstation without a subscription to PS Plus.

>>387647756
Good thing i only pay monthly since i have periods when i don't touch this shit for months.

>>387658584
Online console subscriptions don't include MMO subs. If a MMO has a subscription you have to pay for it seperately even if you already have PS+ or XBLG

I have a PS4 and PS+ wasn't worth it even before the price increase. The "free" games are shit and I usually don't even bother to download them.

They should offer a free basic service that only let's you play multiplayer, then squeeze people who are willing to pay by offering premium services like the casting to PC, overpriced rentals of PS3 games, shitty "free" games each month, etc.

Idc. I make new accounts and constantly get the 14 day free trail then turn auto renew off.

>>387659032
Was thinking about doing this. How big of a hassle is it on a scale of 1 to 10? Is there any chance of drawing the wrath of $ony?

>>387659279
If you play multiplayer a lot, then it's not that much of a hassle. Takes about 10 - 15 mins to do the process and you get free 14 days. I would say a solid 5.

>>387659013
by having paid online they can sell the consoles at lost

>>387650645
>being this dense motherfucker
holy shit