Is the game really just "shoot at the red box while people scream at each other over the radio?"
I was expecting more.
>>387645484
Pretty much
It is a shitty ass meme game
>>387645484
Playing as 4 black f-22s, flying above 20,000ft avoiding all enemies
Didn't get much better than that
>>387645484
Real combat is even more boring
THOUGHTS ENDLESS IN FLIGHT
>>387647514
DAY TURNS TO NIGHT
>>387647190
Fun fact: America's last Ace pilot (a title given to pilots who shoot down at least 5 other planes throughout their ENTIRE career) earned that title in Vietnam against the Soviets.
>>387649274
Know who? and what plane?
>>387645484
I had this game. It was cringe as fuck.
>>387649772
Nagase you keep flying like that and you'll die real soon
>>387649772
t. Brainlet who can't into philosophy
>>387647890
QUESTIONS YOU ASK YOUR SOUL
>>387647890
NA NA NA NA, NA NAAA
what's the most fun ace combat game?
>>387649660
Steve Richie in an F-4D Phantom. They've got one of these on display outside a VA in a nearby town, I got to sit in the cockpit once.
His interviews about the last two are a pretty interesting read
I wanted to like this game but others on this board like it and i don't wanna be them. The game sucks because /v/ likes it, especially older /v/.
From what I see in this thread, modern /v/ seems pretty realistic about their expectations.
CUM HISTORIA
Post some planes, buddies
>>387650919
>About 30 to 40 minutes into the flight, we got the radio call from ‘Disco’ that an outbound US plane had been hit by a MIG’ missile and was leaking fuel and hydraulics. This is a very bad thing for a pilot. He had broken away from his flight and must have panicked because you always stay with your flight mates, no matter what. He was all alone and had been hit and that’s when the MIGs all come after you and shoot you down. Knowing he was a sitting duck, I immediately turned north to help him out.
>I picked up the two MIGs at about 10 o’clock and they were trailing our man, preparing to shoot him down. The lead MIG and I passed about 1,000 feet from each other. I could see the pilot in the cockpit. He was wearing a leather helmet, I think.
>We had also learned that the MIGs liked to set a trap by getting our pilots to engage on the first MIG passing and if you turn to get the first MIG, the second MIG is right behind you and shoots you down. They didn’t care about the first MIG and would actually sacrifice that one to get you. So I let the first MIG pass and engaged the second one that I knew was coming.
>I was able to maneuver behind the MIG #2 and fired two Sparrow missiles at him. The first missile hit him dead-center in his fuselage, breaking the MIG into two pieces and creating a huge fireball. There was debris everywhere. The second Sparrow hit him too going through the fireball and debris. I had to take severe evasive action to avoid flying into the debris and went up and to the left in a split-second. That was 47 seconds into the dogfight, so it happened very, very quickly
>>387651051
MUTAT VALDE RAZGRIZ
>>387651481
>I call the MIG that day the ‘shiny MIG’ because most of them were a kind of gun-metal gray but that one gleamed. At that point, the dogfight was in a gigantic rotating circle and MIG #1 was trailing my number four, a young kid named Tommy. It was his first mission. He radioed that he had a MIG on his tail and when I spotted him, there was MIG #2 closing on him. I cut across the circle to get to Tommy quicker and just wanted to get the MIG off his tail; so I shot another missile at the MIG, trying to get him to turn off the kid. Well, the missile hit MIG #2 dead-center too.
>Ritchie had radioed in “Splash One” and “Splash Two” (the radio signals for downed MIGs) within 89 seconds, something that had never been done before. “My two MIG kills that day were immediately confirmed by radar and intel sources on the ground.”
>There were no victory laps though, we had just received radio alerts that two more MIGs had been vectored toward us. We would have stayed and got them too, but we were down to about three minutes of fuel for flight time. So I decided to get us out of there fast.
>On the second kill, I was just trying to get him to turn around, so I could use my guns on him. The chances of firing three perfect missiles are incalculable.
>The Sparrow missiles have an 11% probability of kill rate. That means that using those missiles at that time would hit an enemy aircraft only 11 out of 100 times.
>>387651219
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofira_Air_Battle
>>387651778
>2018
>>387649274
Happens when you've been stuck doing COIN and not a conventional enemy for the last two decades. Although a Super Hornet got its first AtA kill this year (not this recording)
>>387645484
No, it's one of the best games ever made.
>>387651778
>>387645484
>favorite game of all time
when you boil it all down to make it sounds super simple and stupid, yeah, but like, that's fine I know it's not for everyone.
AC5's gameplay is pretty bad. It relies way too much on scripted events, and spawns way too few enemies at a time so you barely ever get nice big engagements with lots of planes everywhere. 4/0/6 are much better.
>>387652342
>>387652582
AC5 is fine, I don't know why they tried to go more "sim" and less "arcade" with the stiff controls and dropping mid-battle landings and rearming. I do agree 6 is better than 5 from the gameplay, the stages were better too.
>>387652543
Yo pops
>>387650734
Shut up, Nieba
>>387653089
GO DANCE WITH THE ANGELS MISTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhdNjzX4waA
NEMESIS
>>387653592
One fault with 6 I really hate is the lack of planes, its less than 04 which had the perfect number of planes. It needed a F35 and MiG, maybe another high end Attacker
>believing /v/
>ever
You fool...you foolish fool...
>>387653921
I would cum so hard if AC7 let me fly a F-35
>>387650859
no one
>>387653921
Attackers are pretty much always just bad planes that there's very rarely a real reason to use, so they're not really necessary. Though yeah, it did need more planes. I understand that it would have taken more effort than usual since 6 had those really detailed cockpits, but even so, it needed more.
>>387653675
IT'S THE SOUTHERN CROSS!
>>387653619No need to be ashamed of objective facts anon
>>387653921
>>387654052
>F-35
Is Assault Horizon an okay entry to the series? It's the only one I happen to have but I've never played any Ace Combats before. I already know they're set in their own fictional universe but AH is set on Earth as we know it kinda.
THERE IS A RIBBON ON THAT PLANE
>>387653921
>04 which had the perfect number of planes
please be bait, please be bait, PLEASE be bait
>>387654401
No.
>>387654401
if you play it 1st it actually might, that way you can appreciate the main games far more, because holy fuck, that game sucks.
>>387654520
I feared this much.
>>387654052
F-35 is almost certainly in. It's been seen in trailers already, and they'd have to be crazy to make it an enemy only aircraft.
I just hope it has good weapons instead of shit ones like the F-35B in ACI.
>>387654401
AH is kind of terrible, sorry.
>>387645484
>interested in flight sim
>decided to try out DCSworld
>find out each airplane is cost you 50-80$
Is this another star citizen?
>>387654401
>Is Assault Horizon an okay entry to the series?
Only the 3DS version
>>387654052
I know there's a carrier not VTOL variant in 5, the A variant in Assault Horizon, and I think the B VTOL variant in Infinity.
>>387654343
.t terrible jazz musician who thinks he can talk about modern fighters
>>387654426
5 had too many redundant planes, you don't need the legacy Hornet or the Growler when you have a Super Hornet with ECM pods, or the Tomcat when you have the Super Tomcat.
I still can't beat thoseBelkanfuckers in mission 23
what are the best Ace Combat OST tracks?
I never owned a PS2 so I've only played 6 and Assault Horizon Legacy, but I've listed to the OSTs of the other games a bit and there's some amazing stuff there. I've been trying to put together a playlist for flying planes to in other games like Planetside 2 and here's what I've got so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGjwXI0n5-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZBoiW460nU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DkKuUGy5qM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muaIrJtifDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Qkzj5bStU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT9NaHuQvhk
and of course, >>387653592
>>387654052
nobody gets to fly a F35, not even the test pilots, they just get to sit in the cockpit and tap on a touchscreen while the plane flies itself. lockheed martin is fucking gay, I can not wait for boeing to build 10 factories in right to work states crank out 75 airbus orders then get cracking on a real fighter jet that can hang with the pakfa.
>>387655072
please regale us with more of your incredible insider knowledge of this airplane
>>387651647
>The Sparrow missiles have an 11% probability of kill rate
This was surprisingly the average for air to air missiles until the Sidewinder AIM9L in 1980s, where the British used it on their Sea Harriers to get a ratio of 80% kill rate. The huge jump from 15% caused the pilots to nickname it the "Wish Me" since they only had to wish the enemy dead.
>>387655072
Whats it like being not only wrong, but also a slowpoke? Its the Su-57, not the PAK-FA or T-50 anymore.
Tell me why AH is bad without bringing up Dogfight mode
>>387654743
AH has the F-35B, not the A. ACI has the A and the B. They're unfortunately not that good in ACI, though. B has shit weapons, and A is okay but isn't that impressive compared to a bunch of other easily accessible fighters. The special version of the A is good, but it looks like shit.
I was hoping they'd add an F-35 which had good stats and looked good, but they never did. It's too bad.
>>387655239
No Belka
>>387655239
Overly scripted nature means it's incredibly boring to replay since everything happens exactly the same no matter what.
>>387654743
Then lets talk about the planelists of 0 and X and how they are superior in number to 4 and have a far larger variety.
I mean fucking hell, X's planelist almost DOUBLES 4's, a fucking psp game.
>>387654809
Get some X tracks in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3V16CGAuCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcQ5bk5bhjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KxEmwOXv5s
>>387655237
>Su-57
whu
Wasnt it gonna be Su-50 when it finally gets in productionin 2025?
>>387655239
>set in real world, which means the writers can't actually have any fun
>quick time events
>>387655239
MUH STRANGEREAL
And yet what is a nation /v/?
>>387655496
>tfw most Ace Combat games feature this ugly monstrosity instead of the superior looking SU-37 or SU-50
>>387655620
A miserable pile of borders
>>387655496
It's officially the Su-57 now. Probably wanted to make the name similar to the Flanker B's, since that was popular.
>>387655647
>Berkute
>ugly
MOTHERFUCKER, YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT YOU JUST GOT INTO
Let's be real here, /v/.
Do you think Team Aces will ever be able to top Pixy's character?
>>387655736
Backwards wings just don't do anything for me, the thing looks like an engineering abortion.
>>387655792
Nope
Best wingman
the only flaw in the entire series is that it doesn't have a realistic (or at least minimalistic) HUD mode
turning off the HUD is extremely comfy, too bad it makes it nearly unplayable. it feels cool as fuck to hunt enemies visually and navigate by landmarks and everything. spotting a guy in the distance and trying to keep track of his maneuvers and then actually getting in range to see him is neat, pressing triangle and waiting for a square to turn red is less so
>>387655239
the fucking unskippable helicopter levels
oh my godI think dogfight mode is fine in single
>>387655496
I've never listened to any of X's OST before but damn those are some good tracks.
>>387655647
What are you talking about? The PAK FA's been in every AC that was released since it was unveiled, and there's only one game where the Firkin shows up and the Flanker F doesn't. And that game has a Flanker D which looks nearly identical anyway.
>>387655647
>>387655862
Your face is an ugly monstrosity, you abortion fag
How much do you think it costs to license plane names like "SU-35" or "F-22"?
Or are planes not trademarked the way guns are?
>>387656135
I saved a picture of an F-35 and then posted it in a facebook message one time. a copyright disclaimer was sent in my message in the actual message content as if I had pasted it in. I was extremely spooked
so I don't think they are much looser with their licensing, but there is probably a different brand image factor. the worst violence you ever see in ace combat is a square disappearing, in shooters you are murdering people left and right. it's probably more difficult to get a license depicting a company's products being used to slaughter an airport full of people than to delete red squares
>>387655496
I love X's soundtrack, especially the tracks that go full electronic, like these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyYEsdAPi2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZGvyyscdb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIMY3glAFys
Don't get enough of this in AC. Thankfully AC3 is a bastion for this.
>shoot hamilton down
>he comes back in 2 minutes
>>387656661
>>387654615
Nah, that's just how flight sim is. Be glad that you're not into tubeliners.
>>387657528
>memetunia
You're no better fag
>>387655239
AH:L was fucking fantastic though
I liked the PSP game that had a dozen fictional planes. The wyvern (if that's what it was called) was my favorite.
>>387657212
>>387655620
A very relevant question in the 21st Century, believe it or not.
DO borders even mean anything anymore?
>>387652090
There was a dogfight this year?
>>387659536
>gets blowjob from razgriz in the afterlife
Only genuine smile this unfunny shit meme has ever gotten out of me
>>387659692
It wasn't a dogfight. Some Syrian government attacker was bombing insurgents that America liked, so a Super Hornet killed it. Not really exciting, but hey, that's how it goes.
The new game isn't even out yet and contrarians are already starting to ruin the threads. For fuck's sake.
>>387647514
La la la, listen to our beautiful voices
>>387655239
Voiced protagonistS
Atleast flying a B-1 and Apache were cool and different
>>387651647
>I call the MIG that day the ‘shiny MIG’ because most of them were a kind of gun-metal gray but that one gleamed.
So basically he found one of those extra aces that fly around in Zero's missions
>>387652924
>Confirmed launch of V2 missile
>>387655792
Crux a cutest AWACS. Yellow 13 best boy.
I think we can all agree F16 > F4 > F5
Which games have the Wild Weasel Phantom? Just 5?
>>387655647
>forward swept wings
>ugly
>>387661674
Infinity
>>387661908
Really only canards and delta wings are ugly, which explains why nobody wants Gripens or Rafales. They have a Euro mustache
>>387653592
>GO DANCE WITH THE ANGELS MISTER
What a terrible terrible catchphrase.
>>387662617
>canards
>ugly
>nobody wants Gripens
Is today opposite day or someshit?
>>387660281
>nnnoooooo!!!
>stop performing sovereignty in your own country!!!
>>387663000
He's right though.
>>387660839
More likely Soviet production for MiGs was such trash that they got that one off the line and shipped to 'Nam before they had time to paint it.
>>387663000
Canards are ugly, get a stabilator you fucking hipster planes.
>>387663352
Yeah no, you can go and fuck yourself
>calls ANYTHING ugly while posting the fucking a-10
>>387654401
play in order from AC2 onwards if you don't care about story
play in order from AC3 onwards if you do care about story
make sure you play the Japanese AC3 with the translation patch, since the western version is gutted pretty hard
everyone should play AC4 at some point in their lives
ignore Assault Horizon (the 3DS game bearing that name is a remake of AC2, and can substitute for it if you want)
>>387663508
>Top Hog
>ugly
Delet this
>>387655647
How fucking dare you insult another man's plane-fu
>>387645484
it's fun
but you've basically nailed the core gameplaypart of me kind of wants to make a game that's basically just AC but only what you see on the HUD
I'm playing 5 right now and I think it's easily just as good as 0, which I also loved. I liked 4 but not nearly as much as 5/0 because of the abundance of "score x points" missions
>>387663508
The production Su-37 aka Su-35BM doesn't have canards, they ruin the shape of the Flanker.
Look at this Eurotrash with its mustache and laugh, at least their carrier doesn't have a ramp.
>>387664084
>the abundance of "score x points" missions
as much as I love 4, this shit was kind of annoying
>>387664084
>I liked 4 but not nearly as much as 5/0 because of the abundance of "score x points" missions
This essentially stopped me from replaying 4. Which is too bad
>>387664095
A bunch of Su-30 variants have canards.
If anything ruins the shape of the flanker, is the 2 seat cockpit, kinda looks like a retarded fullback
>>387655647
BITCH I'LL CUT YOU
>>387647190
Military flight sims are more fun than ace combat though.
>>387665459
>>387650676
WHICH WAY DO I GO
<< You're not going to believe this, Jean-Louis! >>
<< They've all got ribbon insignias! >>
>>387654615
Falcon 4 BMS is cheap and easy to pirate.
Flaming cliffs 3 is 8 aircraft without clickable cockpits.
Single aircraft modules have manuals hundreds of pages long.