Oblivion vs Skyrim

>>387626249
We already have this thread, faggot.

Morrowind

Oblivion hands down. No mods means skyrim is literally half the game oblivion is.
Its xpacs were shorter and the wntire game in general is shorter or cut down. From towns to quests to characters.

>>387626645
too bad oblivion isn't fun to play

You may say normalfag to me but I completed both games unmodded and liked it. But I cant play vanilla skyrim again. I felt like something is missing when I'm used to the mods. Vanilla is just... No cool weapons and armors, no cloaks, no great mounts, no semen demons etc.

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Morrowind

Oblivion
Despite all its flaws, it's still an actual rpg at the end of the day

Oblivion.
The magic is more varied.

>>387626249
Oblivion. Skyrim was so boring I never finished it. Sucks.

Oblivion:
Guild quests
Daedric quests
Random quests
Customization
Expansions

Skyrim
Main storyline
Art/graphics (what a surprise)
Music (Oblivion is great but it's nostalgia)
Combat (but simplified unfortuanately)
Locations and geography

>>387626249
Skyrim. Less level-scaling and more fast-travel options like wagons and boats instead of having every city available from the start.

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>>387626249
What's up with all of the TES threads today. Is this Todd Howard's day off or something?

I played oblivion years ago cant remember much though but recently finsihed skyrim

Is there cool lore/exploration shit like finding the last of the snow elves, going into the soul cairn plane in oblivion? Because all I remember is the oblivion gates and some cool guild quests

>>387631129
And the great vistas in skyrim too when you find some real old places, like the dwarf underground crossroad thats enourmous I cant remember anything like that in oblivion

>>387631348
and the forgotten vale, hnnng

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>>387629341
>Skyrim
>Music (Oblivion is great but it's nostalgia)

>>387626249
Oblivion. There is actual unique and interesting quests, people, and places, varied architecture. The level scale is, of course absolutely fucked, but so is Skyrim, and Skyrim leaves out all the interesting shit that makes Oblivion much better even with all it's glaring flaws

>>387626249
easy, oblivion is the better game. better rpg elements better quests better dialogue better magic system better expansions

>>387633476
>oblivion
>varied architecture and places

kek

>>387626249
Oblivion had better faction/side quests.
Skyrim was better in every other aspect.

They're both big cages.

I'll have to say morrowind, sorry anon

>>387633965
Nice argument. You could put any Skyrim dungeon side by side and they look like the same dark gray-brown mess.

Skyrim has nothing like the cool Ayleid ruins, Paradise, or even Imperial City. It's just generic shit

>>387634591
Ayleid ruins are literally copypasted.

>>387634591
you come across paradise once, most of oblivions map is just the same fucking grassland, skyrim has some fucking variety there at least, oblivion has 3 dungeons, caves, ayleid and normal ruins all boring as fuck

Skyrims are boring as fuck too but at least they have 5 boring ruins instead of 3 and sometimes they can actually lead to amazing huge fucking places like Blackreach, I'd actually get a sense of exploration

skyrim has way more variety and shit like the soul cairn

>>387631129
>going into the soul cairn plane in oblivion?
Oblivion has the whole Shivering Ilse expansion, aside from that there isn't too much impressive from an exploration standpoint sadly. KotN might have something but it's been ages since I've played Oblivion so idk.
Skyrim definitely nailed interesting locations and the visuals of them tho.

Only thing Oblivion does better that skyrim is Music and Guild quests, other than that Skyrim is better in every way. Shivering Isle is absolutely fucking amazing though, but so is Dragonborn. Can't really decide which has the better expansions.

>>387631129
>>387631348
>>387631643
There's the entirety of the Shivering Isles with tons to find in it, that one wizard's dream realm, big underground Aylied stuff, too.

>>387635686
What isn’t in the elder scrolls series (or any open world game with dungeons)

Skyrim felt so fucking small with so little to do. Oblivion had much more going for it despite Skyrim being marginally prettier.

I've only ever played vanilla because of my soviet toaster and severe retardation, and vanilla Oblivion is leagues beyond vanilla Skyrim. Pretty visuals do not save what is an ultimately shallow as fuck game.

>>387636553
True, Morrowind has random dungeons as well, but only for some stuff. Like Family tombs and small caves. Most everything else is hand made. Oblivion however has the highest ratio of Copy-pasted to Handmade dungeons. fuck even the fucking map is partially Copy-pasted.

>>387636392
But none of them top Black Reach or the soul cairn

>>387632920
Not him, but neither soundtrack is very memorable, they're both pretty generic fantasy orchestra.

>>387637534
ur an orchestra

>>387631129
Oblivion has much better quests than Skyrim.

>>387637902
Only Guild quest, the rest are on the same level as Skyrim.

>>387638107
Yes they are excellent as well.

>>387638107
95% of Oblivion sidequests
>creative story and some unexpected adventure
95% of Skyrim sidequest
>go to the dungeon and kill the draugr boss/retrieve the item

I like playing Skyrim more

>>387627883
Speak for yourself. I had way more fun with oblivion than skyrim. I s5ill didnt do the main questlinw or war story lines. Shits boring

>>387638548
>actually thinking this
Oblivion has the same shit only it tends to hide it a bit better.

>>387626249
The leveling is just too crappy in vanilla oblivion. Not just level scaling, but the autistic management of skills if you want your +5 attribute bonus. Not to mention you have to level endurance early or you get gimped. I like attributes, just not how they get implemented. Skyrim's leveling left a lot to be desired because it was so simple, but at least it played it safe.

>>387626249
Skyrim hands out. Oblivion is just a movie for me, never played the game and never will. I can't wait to play skyrim 2 btw, I hope bethesda use the new engine that they used to make fallout 4.

Oblivion is way better, it's better at what's really important the gameplay

Why the fuck can't I cast a spell and equip a shield at the same time?

Is the dragonborn some weakling that can't raise his hand to cast a spell if he has a shield equipped?

>>387638926
I am 99% positve you can. I did A whole playthrough like that before

>>387626249
>Oblivion
Guild quest lines conform to the rules and ideals of the guild in question
Quests are all around better written and failable
Towns have more life to them due to a greater degree of styles and NPCs who have routines beyond going to work and going home
Magic is varied and interesting
>Skyrim
The main story is somewhat better but still flawed
The combat is a bit better
It looks nicer, especially in regards to NPC faces

>>387626249
they'd both have pros and cons, but i'd give it to oblivion due to better quests.
modded goes to oblivion as well, for some reason it's mod library is so much more diverse (calm down) and interesting than any other beth game.

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>>387629341
>skyrim
>main storyline

>>387626249
Daggerfall = The last truly great entry in the series.

Morrowind = the last true entry in the series.

Oblivion = The last RPG in the series.

Skyrim = An action/adventure game for twelve year olds

>>387638926
You should at least check a wiki to see if your complaint is accurate.

Shitposters have gotten lazy.At least put in a modicum of effort.

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Oblivion had some of the classic TES feel to it that Skyrim was missing, So I'm going to have to say Oblivion. Also, Skyrim's art direction felt like it was lacking the fantasy feeling that all of the previous games had.
Love the hell out of both games, but Oblivion is the better game overall.

>>387639720
Anything is better than the literal fetch quest with no boss.

>>387639135
>>387640096
I did my whole playthrough pressing q
And unequiping my weapon and shield to cast fucking heal, didn't magic worked like a equipable weapon in skyrim?

>>387639963
Yeah and Arena was the best game.

>>387640562
>no boss
what do you call the fight with Mankar Cameron in his paradise then?

>>387626249
Oblivion on both fronts. Not even a competition.

>>387640652
Yes but the LMB does left hand and RMB does right. I think sheild sort of auto equips in the opposite hand only if you use a weapon. Maybe thats where you fucked up on?

>>387640704
An easy shit show. Also the not even the last quest in the game so It isn't really a FINAL boss.

>>387641030
>An easy shit show.
And what the fuck do you call Alduin, you greasy n'wah?

>>387640652
Yes you can't use one hand to do two things.
You can equip one thing or spell in either hand or use both for two handers or staves.

That wasn't the complaint you presented.
I am ok with the change but you like what you like.

>>387641158
An easy shit show that at least was at the end of the game and the real antagonist.

>>387640917
What anon means is to have a sword and shield equipped but still be able to cast spells.
This is something Skyrim SHOULD have had, albeit at a weaker potency compared to not holding something.

>>387641030
>Climactic battle with a megalomaniac who's philosophy fundamentally opposes your own in his own pocket dimension

or

>fight with a retextured dragon because destiny says so

which would you rather have?

>>387641351
An actual fight with a cool dragon that doesn't act like every other buggy fucking dragon in the game with the setpiece being the Nordic spirit land filled with Nord heroes of old.

Morrowind. Oh wait, in that case. Skyrim. Oblivion is an absolute shitfest.

>>387641351
The last time Bethesda did something remotely philosophical was Morrowind main quest.

>>387626645
No way would I play Oblivion without a leveling mod. Fuck that spamming cure and night eye nonsense just to keep up with the ridiculous scaling.

>>387641603
at least Mankar speaks to you before you fight him unlike alduin.

>>387641351
> who's philosophy fundamentally opposes your own
you are making way more deep than he actually was in the game.
>fight with a retextured dragon because destiny says so
Mankor Cameron is no different from any other wizard you fight in the game. hell even Mannimarco is a better boss than him.

>>387641746
Alduin speaks to you during the fight and at the end.

>>387626249
Oblivion of course

Oblivion is the patrician's choice.

>>387639963
Daggerfall sucked m8

>>387641308
This

Even if it was like Morrowind and press r to change to spellcasting stance would have been better that pushing the q key all the time, at least it didn't pause the game

>>387634591
Oblivion's setting kinda sucks dude

ayleid ruins are the same shit over and over and they lazily went "let's just do fucking middle earth" for the overworld"

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>>387636614
>vanilla Skyrim
>pretty visuals

>>387626249
I've gotten more enjoyment from watching Oblivion fuckup videos that playing any ES games, its like The Room of vidya

>>387634591
>Skyrim has nothing like the cool Ayleid ruins, Paradise, or even Imperial City.
You are delusional if you legitimately think that the Oblivion dungeons are better than skyrim's.
>>387642593
key word is marginally and it is much better than Oblivions.

>>387629341
>Skyrim
>Main storyline
lel

>>387626249
Oblivion had more memorable locations and quests. Also the Oblivion NPCs seemed more life like than Skyrim. I'm not sure why, but the NPCs following a schedule in Oblivion seemed more reliable.

>>387626249
overall Oblivion, skyrim would've been better if beth didn't simplify it.

>>387642940
Oblivion dungeons were less linear than Skyrim, not that thats saying much

Just dropping in to say, skill requirements for advancement in the guilds was fucking abysmal in Morrowind.

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Oblivion, hands down

People saying Skyrim had better quests are fucking delusional

>>387638839
Hi, Todd

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>>387644460
Oblivion was GOTC for its quests. Unmatched.

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>Morrowind got one good expansion (Tribunal) and one bad expansion (Bloodmoon)
>Skyrim got one good expansion (Dawnguard) and one bad expansion (Dragonborn)
>Oblivion got one bad expansion (Shivering Isles) and that's it

I will never stop being salty about this. Knights of the Nine was god-tier, but it wasn't an expansion. Shivering Isles should have been the trash little DLC and KotN should have been the full expansion.

>play Skyrim
>join up Thieves Guild straight away because that's what I usually do in TES games
>First introduction is the guy saying "lol u haven't hearned any of that gold honestly have you"
>at this point I'm like "dude what, I literally can't sell stolen items without being in the guild so that's impossible"
>already I'm worried
>for some reason I have to ask "why would I plant stolen item on Guy X" as if my character is too retarded to understand the concept of "framing"
>go steal shit from a meadery
>go poison a meadery, sentencing a guy to life in jail and for some reason his property now belongs to someone else?
>the rest of the guild's quests mostly involve going into dungeons and fighting draugr, and also one instance of copyright infringement
>also have to pledge my soul to Nocturnal and there's no option to say "fuck that" and just fight a more powerful version of Mercer

Fucking hell that was retarded

Even the Winterhold College was better, it may have been only 1 hour long but at least its story made fucking sense

>>387644830
>Bloodmoon being bad
>Dragonborn being the "bad" expansion
>Shivering Isles being bad

dude nice contrarianism

>>387644867
>"lol u haven't hearned any of that gold honestly have you"

This happening to any character no matter how you play was so fucking frustrating and lazy, I hated the way Skyrim refused to let you sever a questline because of autistic retards who want to do every single guild on every single character

At least Oblivion let you kill Lucien Lachance immediately before or after talking to him if you were so inclined

>>387644830
>Dawnguard
>good

Listen anon, even as someone who always plays like a Vampire/Monster hunter, Dawnguard was complete garbage. The missions are exactly the same for each faction, it's ridiculous

>>387645065
In Skyrim you can kill Astrid the second you meet her too

Though then that somehow leads to the Legion guy somehow knowing exactly where the Dark Brotherhood's headquarters is, AND HOW TO GET INSIDE IT YET HASN'T FUCKING RAIDED IT OR ANYTHING

>>387644867
Thieves guild was the worst

Riften also seemed to set up destroying them but nope, can't change then from inside either and yeah pledging to nocturnal with no options was retarded

>>387644867
You forgot the part where you show up with Karliah and a journal and they all immediately believe your story without hesitation

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>>387645325
>>387645320
>>387645065
>>387644867
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=14422

>>387645603
Is that the buffoon who stated in his first complaint that Brynolf (sp) says the same thing no matter what during your first meeting?

If you are going to shit on something at least make sure you are correct.

Started off factually wrong (the worst kind of wrong) and then ranged from autistic to stupid.

>>387645927
>Brynolf (sp) says the same thing no matter what during your first meeting?

But he does. Unless you have literally zero gold

>>387646153
But he does unless he doesn't.
Nice try shamus
Retard

>>387626249
Oblivion no question! the dungeons were fun to explore unlike in Skyrim, the world was colorful, the side quests were amazing. shivering isles was pretty awesome.

>>387647069
It's fucking Skyrim, it's basically impossible to not be rolling in cash, can't exactly blame him for always having more than 1 gold piece when he starts the questline

>>387626249

Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion

>>387647849
Where do you place daggerfall?

>>387647481
Waaah
Being factually correct is important when you want to be taken seriously.
He wasn't and shouldn't be.

The only ones that use this discredited blog are morons who just like shitting on Skyrim.

>>387641308

that's what shouts are for

>>387648268
>Everything he says in the article is completely accurate except this one part where you have to meet criteria extremely unlikely in order to see it which 99% of people never will, therefore the entire article is invalid
K

>>387648621
How did the ale get from the brewery to the cask?
How?
I mean seriously how?
WTF
Questline is crap.

That is the level of criticism he went with.
Shit blog is shit.

I can see the appeal for autists who will never let facts get in the way of a good argument.
I just have higher standards.
If it is good enough for you and gives you warm fee fees more power to you.

>>387645065
You can stop the companions' questline with no loose ends right after you fight the silver hand with aela where skjor dies
Just don't go back into jorvaskr
It also fits narratively, you just became a werewolf and noped the fuck out of there

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Have you heard of the high elves?

>>387644830
>Oblivion got one bad expansion (Shivering Isles) and that's it
its one of the best game expansions ever, not even talking tes. what utter bollocks youre speaking

>>387648537
Shouts and spells should have shared the same key

>>387626645
>spamming to keep up with levelling
You're doing it wrong

>>387626249
Oblivion. There was a lot wrong with it, but it still had Spellcrafting and the Thieves' Guild questline was a treat. You could also find some humor to how badly things were made.

Give me ten good reasons why Morrowind doesn't shit on them both.

>>387650527
Only need one Morrowind's combat.
Once you hit level 20 there is nothing dangerous enough to harm you.
It becomes boring.

>>387650527
Morrowind is shit along with the rest of TES. Most pleb rpg series in existence.