*ruins an entire company*
That's not the 32X.
did anything notable even come out on the system?
>>387605764
The best versions of SOTN and MM8.
>>387605764
Sega Rally Championship
>>387605764
Guardian Heroes and Nights.
>>387605764
Panzer Dragoon, NiGHTS
>>387605764
there was a thread about saturn last night.
*ruins an entire company*
>>387605909
>best version of SOTN
Maybe if you like playing the game at 15 FPS.
>>387605514
But that's not the Dreamcast.
*shitposts your board*
>>387606227
funny how almost all of the games on this chart command the highest prices and are the most rare/valuable. Almost like Metal Jesus made this himself...
>>387605909
>best version of MM8
hell yeah
>best version of SOTN
hell no
*ruin two entire companies*
>>387606296
Dreamcast was actually fine but all the shit Sega has been pulling before damaged the brand
>>387606241
See, this is kind of faggot who never played the game and like to spam memes. If you point any other moment of the game where the fps drop other than when you kill a boss and there's that effect before the hp up vial shows up I'd satisfied.
>>387605514
I love my Saturn!
>>387606423
The Saturn sold well in Japan.
The Dreamcast sold well nowhere.
>>387606123
>Guardian Heroes
My nigga.
Also the best version of road rash came out in the Sega Saturn
>>387606573
It didn't have much time to actually sell.
>Saturn sold well in Japan
Yeah, do you know why it didn't sell well outside of japan? They fucked over the consumers hard. If I'm not mistaken all these Genesis addon stuff probably made Sega look unreliable.
>>387605514
Sega America and Sega Japan actively trying to fuck each other over during the Saturn's lifetime was what killed Sega.
Japan was jealous because the machine they made, the Mega Drive, was a flop in it's home country but had success in America because of SoA advertising and striking deals with companies such as EA.
The Saturn sold decently in Japan but tanked abroad because Sega of Japan was actively sabotaging Sega of America efforts to try to develop for and sell the console.
All this internal dick-waving was over by the time the Dreamcast came along but the damage had been done.
>>387606905
>>387606905
All those add-ons came out in Japan too where the MegaDrive/Genesis had almost no market share. Sega fighting themselves and not the competition is what killed them.
>>387606421
I'm guessing sega, but who else?
>>387606296
>>387606573
>dreamcast was bad
dreamcast died because sega put too much money in stupid ass shit like 32x or shenmue and just couldn't keep it going, overwhelming amount of launch hype ps2 had didn't help
Sega Saturn was terrible, and had the worst games (both homegrown and ports).
>>387607321
almost every original games was terrible experimental shit
every game from existing franchises was just a subpar transition to 3D
did Sega Saturn even have any new sonic games for the system at the time? besides ports?
>>387606227
>Let's add shovelware and inferior ports like Loaded. It'll make the picture even more useful! Man, even throw Earth Worm Jim 2 and the fucking Duke Nukem 3D ports in! YEAH!
*ruins everything touched*
>>387607001
Sega of Japan was paranoid that the successful American arm of the company was going to 'take over' the Japanese side so the fat, old salary man managers threw a massive shit fit and made life difficult for SoA whenever they could.
For example, Sonic Xtreme was being developed at Sega of America using the NiGHTS engine and a fair amount of work had been done until Sega of Japan reported that Yuji Naka was mad that SoA was using 'his engine' and told SoA to build a new game engine from scratch.
Sega of Japan would then go on to screw Yuji Naka out of a senior management position by establishing a 'College Degree Required' rule. Yuji Naka came to Sega straight out of high school and all his work and loyalty to the company meant fuck all to the suits so that's why he eventually told them to fuck off and went and started Prope.
>>387607510
No, just Sonic Jam, and an updated Sonic 3D blast. It was supposed to have Sonic Extreme, but that died off when the saturn did.
>>387606386
>Almost like Metal Jesus made this himself...
Most of these have been high-priced for years now. You have to be naive if you think some Youtube nobody has an influence on how these games are priced.
>>387607454
>almost every original games was terrible experimental shit
I want source on this. The only experimental I can think right now is Mr Bones
>>387607510
No, only a few ports and spinoffs. Dreamcast had Adventure, but that didn't help it either. Because, despite what nostalgic furries would tell you, it was worse than Sonic 2006. Play it and see. The game was horrible.
>>387605764
How can you even be this much of a pleb?
The Saturn has lots of great games that were developed in Japan and often exclusively sold there.
99% western developed games for the system was total shit.
>>387605764
Port of Yu-no.
>>387607650
Well damn, the soundtrack for Sonic 3D blast on saturn sounds too fucking good. Almost makes me want to play it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYbFVZTdxn0
>>387607180
Well it relegated Nintendo from being top dog to having to etch a little niche for itself since it couldn't dream of directly competing.
>>387607846
Eat shit faggot, SA1 is the only good Sonic game ever made.
>>387606573
Untru. In the first three months Dreamcast sold like hotcakes, after that though, it ll went downhill, and by the time production stopped, the sales numbers were laughable, ESPECIALLY compared to the titan of sales numbers known as the PS2.
>>387607985
>SA1 is the only good Sonic game ever made.
>>387606123
>>387606880
>that feel when the remastered guardian heroes HD will never come out on PC and will rot slowly in the back corners of xbox live
fuck
>>387607607
But the Saturn version of EWJ2 is the definitive one
>>387605764
time crisis?
>>387607985
Sure, whatever. Just consider that, if you burn your fursuit, your mother will start giving you money again.
Can we bring /vr/ back to /v/ and just leave /vg/ to rot?
>>387608215
With loadings and a fucked up soundtrack, it sure as fuck isn't.
>>387605909
>best version of SOTN
>buttery smooth 10fps
>takes 15 seconds to get to the map via the menu and then go back out
>>387608235
I keep forgot /vr/ exists.
>>387607607
the duke3d and quake ports were amazing for the time, plus if you owned both, then you got to play the REAL GOTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkrWndukMlk
>>387607985
>be amazed by the whale scene in the store
>buy Dreamcast and Sonic Adventure
>get past the whale section at home
>tfw
>>387607510
It was suppose to have Xtreme, which was going to be the big Sonic that would save the Saturn.
Instead, it had a terrible development and was eventually cancelled.
>>387608470
>the duke3d and quake ports were amazing for the time
They are bastardizations of the respective games. Putting them on a 2017 worthwhile Saturn games list is beyond idiotic.
You understand that the list was made circa 2015 or so, not in 1995?
>>387605514
>you WILL enjoy our Arcade games you fags! Buy the Saturn!
Oh damn.
OH DAMN
>>387608581
>purposefully avoiding talking about death tank zwei
>>387608307
>fucked up soundtrack
wat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEGCcM38y7E
>>387607846
Regardless what anyone thinks of Adventure here, you're spitting hyperbole if you think its anywhere close as shitty as Sonic '06. Adventure has always been a complete breeze to play, especially the infamous parts of it.
Investor scam that went too far.
>>387607979
I love how 2006-2010 is conveniently erased from sony faggots' minds.
>>387606386
burn copies
no point in dropping all that cash
>>387606573
DC had ridiculously strong initial sales, which then fell off a cliff the closer you got to the PS2 launch.
>>387606905
Saturn didn't sell well outside of Japan because
>PS1 launched cheaper
>stores were pissed about the early launch (good luck finding a Saturn)
>PS1 had more games (early launch led to developers being pissed since Sega had free reign for months with only their own games on the market, and then later Stolar's lame-ass policies kept the already low release rate low)
But for the real, the big problem with the Saturn was that it had majority games that could be completed in an hour when that era of average playtime was completely gone by 1994.
You can say that "the wrong company died" but Sega is so fucking stupid.
>>387605909
>SOTN
It's explicitly the worst version of SOTN because Konami didn't use the Saturn's extra power and mashed the entire game onto the load of one chip. It's the reason why transparency isn't functional and why load times and the framerate took a hit
>>387609198
I love how gen 6 and the wii u era is conviently erased from ninten toddler's minds
>>387608181
They made it back comp out of nowhere for the xbone. It's some good shit
>>387609529
They aren't. I don't even know what you're responding to.
>say that Sony has dominated the market since PS1/PS2
>when the Wii and DS exist
okay
>>387606232
wasnt this guy who decide sega consoles would not get rpgs ?
>>387609689
>say that Sony has dominated the market since PS1/PS2
literally nobody said that
all that was implied was that sony dominated the CONSOLE market DURING the ps2 era
It was the combination of the 32X, CD, and Saturn that killed Sega. They spread themselves too thin and no one knew which piece of hardware to buy, and devs had no idea which one to develop for. Consumers lost a lot of faith in Sega during that period, and for good reason.
>>387607985
Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 sucked shit.
>>387609987
>original post
>"*ruins two entire companies*"
>Sega and Nintendo
Do you even know what you're talking about?
>>387605764
literally every game that didn't come out in the USA
WHO CULDCEPT HERE?
>>387605764
Nights into Dreams.
>>387607846
SA1 hasn't aged well, but it's a total exaggeration to say that it's worse than Sonic 2006.
If only /v/ was alive for E3 1995. That shit would have been amazing.
>Kalinske gave a keynote presentation in which he revealed the release price of US$399 (including a copy of Virtua Fighter), and described the features of the console. Kalinske also revealed that, due to "high consumer demand", Sega had already shipped 30,000 Saturns to Toys "R" Us, Babbage's, Electronics Boutique, and Software Etc. for immediate release.The announcement upset retailers who were not informed of the surprise release, including Best Buy and Walmart; KB Toys responded by dropping Sega from its lineup. Sony subsequently unveiled the retail price for the PlayStation: Sony Computer Entertainment America president Steve Race took the stage, said "$299", and then walked away to applause.
>>387610096
You suck shit you fucking faggot, I'll fucking kill you. Let me fucking find out where you live you little nigger.
>>387605764
The original version of Soul Hackers.
>>387605764
Panzer Dragoon Zwei
>>387605514
>rushes the entire system out fucking over nearly all their launch titles
>fires their NoA head because reasons
>sets it at a stupidly high price
Sega were just hopelessly stupid, like something out of a loony tunes or capeshit villain.
>>387605514
Say that to my face
>>387605764
BURNING RANGERS
>cucks your place and holds your non-Sonic exclusives hostage
>>387610295
>Sony Computer Entertainment America president Steve Race took the stage, said "$299", and then walked away to applause.
Source
>>387607628
>Sega of Japan would then go on to screw Yuji Naka
Why exactly? What did Naka do to piss off Sega?
>>387610927
>It's 2017 and xbox isn't emulatable nor has sega ported Jet Set Radio Future to anything else
Whys it gotta be this way
>>387610974
Not him, but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExaAYIKsDBI
>>387611119
because no ones started the patreon yet.
>>387605764
Panzer Dragoon
>>387610974
>>387611203
This is really a good like E3. Easily the best performance ever just boring corporate talk and spread sheets backended with the greatest and most brutal kill shot ever.
>ruins your favorite franchise and kills the studio that made it
>>387605764
Daytona USA