DDO West fucking WHEN?!

What's going on with those rocks

>>387602087
You can play as a fist wizard

>>387602347
I never knew how much I wanted Alchemist in my life until I played as one.

Now I want it in every game.

>>387602174
I think that's supposed to be a skeleton, so those are rib bones.

someone post the dragon's dogma threadcap thing

someone else explain to me how this alchemist works

>>387602087
What's not to get? Everything you need is translated with the English Patch and the story summary is floating around somewhere.

>>387603119
Alchemist is a support class, or was it tank? Whatever, you plant stakes on enemies by attacking them and then detonate them when you max them out. When you detonate them, they inflict whatever elixir (debuff) you have equipped. The class has a trampoline-like thing that can shoot you up into the air, and another one you can place in the air. It also has a move that makes you invulnerable for a short time, and place a little thing that let's you give people different elements. Its an incredibly fun class to play.

>>387602087
no one will play it. they'll stick to FF14 and WoW.

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>>387603119
here you go

>>387602087
>he wants to play a shitty MMO

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>>387603119
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>>387603854
Adding on to that anon's post, the stakes you plant on the enemies also make them aggro you, turning the class into a very fun evasive tank

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>>387603119
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>>387604476
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>>387604635
>>387604683
What the fuck? How is it in English?

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>>387603119
>>387604683

>>387604701
People have said repeatedly that there's an active english patch for the game that covers everything but the story.

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>>387604701
how are you this out of the loop anon

>>387603119

>>387602087
Never because fuck Gaijins.

I just want DD2

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>>387604935
that's all my alchemist stuff

>Japanese online game
>Good
>Available to hated gaijin

Choose two.

>>387603854
Oh boy. Yet another game the gooks will never bother translating because you retards did the work for them. Now they'll never have an English server because "they're already playing". Good job. You'd think you dumb motherfuckers would learn after PSO2.

>>387604802
lance character? Nice

This is not an MMO.

GW is not an MMO.
PSO is not an MMO.
Diablo is not an MMO.

Stop calling multiplayer lobby games MMOs.

It's garbage you guys have the worst taste in vidya

>>387605089
The difference is almost null because most MMOs devolve into lobby based around the endgame anyway

>>387604973
i choose japanese online game and good and play it as a gaijin anyway

>>387605089
that's what it markets itself as and calls itself so right or wrong that's what people are gonna call it. It's just an online only co op game but you're delusional if you think people'll stop calling it an mmo.

>>387605136
well i think your favourite games are shit

>>387605028
Not my problem.

>>387605271
Do you think being unable to communicate with the server is fun?

>>387605375
there's a server (channel) that all the english people play on and regularly talk over the channel wide shout chat.

>>387605375
You do know other English people play this game too, right?

>>387605496
>>387605424
You know the community isn't nearly big enough to be comparable with how it's supposed to feel. I've played PSO2 in the same way and it blew ass.

>>387604760
Thats wrong. All the tutorial messages are untranslated as well as anything NPCs say including quests and lore.

Many items untranslated too. The only things translated are the bare essentials required to be able to play.

You cant fully immerse yourself in the game, even without story.

>>387605623
there's no content in the game you need more than 7 other players for.

As long as you're in an active clan then you have more than enough people to do stuff with.

>>387605721
>immersing yourself in a non-vr mmo
cmon now, only ERP and muh roleplay fags do this

>>387602087
Right after PSO2 international.

>>387605793
Youre ignoring the rest. The only way you can really understanding how stuff like limit breaking and certain subsystem works is through wikis.

>>387604524
As opposed to the current other shitty MMOs? At least this one is a good GAME.

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>>387602087
>Hmmm if we reach 3 million PS4 and XBO sales for DD:DA we might consider it!
>Be a good goy and tell all your friends they better fucking buy it!

>>387606064
I already bought it twice. No more.

>>387605908
it's not exactly rocket science.

I already get how limit breaking works and i'm 95% sure on how extreme synthesis functions.

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>>387606129
>only twice
I'm not buying it a fourth time.
I'm serious.
Just give me DD2 or DDO already.

>>387604476
Kinda looks like that ogre has a boner when he marks it.

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>>387606395
just play DDO now if you're interested in it

damn this probably the xi of this generation, and i missed it once again...

>>387606129
I might get it a fifth time and give it to someone else

>>387606707
That's one cute boy.

>>387606748
siliconmage, plz.

Do I need to setup VPN bullshit to play this game?

It's too late anyways, they're past the window.

It's like PSO2, I still want a proper western release of that game but deep inside I know it's too late, the magic is gone and I would get bored of it after a week. Same with DDO.

Best thing to hope for is DDO2.

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>>387606826
yea

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>>387606129
>>387606395

Such a shame! If only you (and 3 million other filthy gaijin piggus) were willing to part with a mere 30 shekels for our latest rehash, you might have been able to explore an entirely new DD world with 2 years of content with more to come!

Ah well, guess I'll just have to enjoy the scenery and my pawn waifus by myself then!

>>387605623
I don't care how its "supposed" to feel, I just want to play the game. If I really want help on something, I'll ask.

Can you even climb on enemies in this?

>>387607450
Yeah

>>387607605
Oh cool, I read from somewhere you can't

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>>387606064
man, fuck that. I already bought it three times. 360,PS3, and PC. I'm not buying it again.

PLEASE DD2 or DDO COME TO THE WEST

>>387603854
Wait, how do I do that invulnerability stuff, I made it happen on occasion and it's fucking sick.

Also I got alot of super strong items, is this promotion for season 3.0 to quickly max lvl?

>>387602087

>Porting MMOs Stateside ever.

Sure lets just ask the jews at Aeria games or Trion Worlds to do the port job for us.

>>387606979
30 shekels is actually fairly cheap (8.5$).

>>387608208
I was talking about Golda Aurum, but I think you're deferring to the counters. They all have different timings, but the one for Dolus Morsus is the most lenient. There's also the delayed basic attacks that are pretty easy for countering.

>Also I got alot of super strong items, is this promotion for season 3.0 to quickly max lvl?
You mean the daggers and stuff they sent everyone?

>>387608737
I mean the Arisen gear they sent me, the spears and Arisen sword and Shield and bows.

It's pretty nice but it pretty much forces me to play as Warrior , Lancer, or Strider. Did they distribute some Alchemy gear too?

Asfor the countering, i'm not sure what the names mean but how DO I trigger the counter? is it just attacking at the same time? That seemed so sometimes work and sometimes not so I wasn't sure if it's because of that, especially since sometimes enemies just bounced off me without me pressing shit, I just had this wierd hexagon aura around me.

>>387608301
It's CAPCOM, not some shitty 2bit Korean company. They can handle it themselves. They are doing it for MHWorld.

>>387602087
How is the ping playing on JAP servers as a central EU fag?

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>>387609038
irrelevant since the combat is client side

>>387609038
Didn't try party play with something other than people's pawns yet, but the game is mostly clientside. So none really.

The game only needs to have you be connected in general. The only time you see other players outside instances is at hub spots and when forming parties.

Essentially anything you go out into the wilds it's your own instance, as if you are playing regular single player Dragon's Dogma.

If you don't intend to do Co-Op much, the game is pretty much Online only because it forces you, the rest of it is client-based.

>>387609174
How does that work when you're playing with other people?

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>>387608146
B-Be reasonable goy! You can't expect us to invest in a Western release when there's no one who will pay, er, play!

Look, the sales for the last 3 releases weren't anywhere near the 10 million we were expecting. You have one last chance... mainly because we ran out of consoles to release on. You know what you have to do goy.

>>387609174
>>387609234
That sounds just like Vindictus then.

If I wanted to play this with a friend, I imagine one of us (the party leader probably) would host the instance so there shouldn't be any problems for both of us, right?

>>387609279
You will connect to the host. Luckily everyone in Japan has fiber internet so it's usually not a problem.

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>>387609279
>>387609429
one person is chosen to be the host

if an enemy gets too desynced position/animation wise from your version to the host it'll snap back to the position/animation it's in on the hosts screen so people aren't fighting the same enemy in different places, same goes for other players around you.

Otherwise it's client based, there's no delay in hits/getting hit. You'll never get hit by something that didn't clearly hit you on your screen.

>>387609429
Probably not, no. People DO play it like that too.

And yes it's very much like Vindictus only it's Dragon's Dogma so aside from being flashy it's actually rooted in strong combat mechanics and customization (They even added a much needed thing DD:DA didn't have which allows you to switch Attack palettes mid-combat).

It's actually kinda boring and it runs like garbage. You need a pretty strong CPU to play this shit because it hardly taxes your GPU (AKA shitty port). It's pretty much your standard MMO quest stuff where you run around doing dumb tasks. Then there are field missions or whatever that usually involve taking out a big monster. This loses its appeal pretty quick because the enrage mechanic is only there to make things way longer than it needs to be. They're also just tanky as fuck in general.

All of the classes are boring as fuck except battle alchemist, but even that gets dull pretty quick. It's a rhythm based class but the framerate is inconsistent, making it quite the headache sometimes. This game might be better with friends, but in other cases it's a really boring single player game you have to connect to Japan for and is worse than the original DD in nearly all categories.

Don't listen to the shills. Don't buy into the hype. It's really not worth it.

>>387609619
>aside from being flashy
I mean, not that I don't enjoy it but playing Alchemist my screen is literally fucking bombarded by explosions/trap detonations/glowing shit.

>>387609034
I only got daggers, what the fuck.

>Asfor the countering, i'm not sure what the names mean but how DO I trigger the counter?
Attack right before they hit you. Its different depending on the move. Go into the training room in the Inn under your room and practice timings on some enemies
Also, I'm not sure how good you are at Clusters, but this helped me a ton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcv-7qGDOY0&t=138s

>>387609808
Yeah alchemist is flashy as fuck but there's still alot of timing and evasion involved.

What is new in season 3?

>>387609707
assuming you're fighting stuff with a full party (pawns or players) and are appropriately geared, boss monsters don't take that much longer, if at all, to kill than in the original, assuming the same criteria.

Seeker, Fighter, Alchemist and Spirit Lancer are all pretty rad. Shield sage and priest make me want to die though. Warrior is flat out better in every way than in the original.

More monster variety.

Majority of the original game was just running around killing shit and doing random quests, same as Online. The only difference is the main story which is obviously significantly better in a single player game and the atmosphere (because the dynamic lighting seems to be hardly there and dark areas aren't dark enough).

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>>387609826
I abuse clusters alot. But thanks i'll try after I get further with Warrior. It's pretty boring to play as desu, the base classes are boring af. Lancer and Alchemist is where it's at.

And I dunno what to tell ya, got lots of stuff for myself, Pic related, the Arisen coat (1107 or something in defense), Arisen sword (1107 in attack) and the Arisen Shield.

I also have Greatshield and staff for Mystic knight and my pawn archer wears a similarly strong Bow.

The armor sent my health from 760 to 2500+ and Orcs don't do shit to me damage wise.

>>387602087
This is the japanese getting back at us for the bombings

>>387609707
I'm running it at constant 60+ in dungeons and 45+ fps outside. Only time it drops is in the city, and it's mostly dependant on your connection aswell, which is obviously gonna ruin things under VPN.

My computer is 4 years old at this point and wasn't even high end when I bought it, i'm getting pretty much the same level of performance I did from DD:DA. Stop playing on toasters.

>>387610442
>i'm getting pretty much the same level of performance I did from DD:DA
But I can run DD on high settings at 144 FPS. And no, 45-60 FPS variation is not okay and is headache inducing.

>>387610369
Not everyone is american, why are we non-americans to blame? I would even buy it if they decided to distribute it on a buy-to-play basis like BDO if there is an absolute minimum of P2W cosmetic shit.

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>>387610237
>Warrior
>base class

Jokes on you the original classes were Shield Sage, Fighter, Priest and Hunter and you had to progress through 1.0 to unlock and gain access to Seeker and Sorcerer.

Elemental Archer was added in a later patch, followed by Warrior and then Alchemist.

>>387610538
Not for me it ain't. Might want to see a doctor about that. I'm also playing on near max settings, maybe try dropping some stuff.

>>387610237
>Pawn Hunter
>Pawn Priest
don't do this to yourself

The classes pawns are good at are Shield Sage, Sorcerer and Elemental Archer. Don't ever make them anything else unless you're temporarily powerleveling their other classes to get them augments.

>>387610591
Shit I meant Fighter my bad.

i can't stop calling Shield Sage and Elemental Archer Mystick Knight and Magick Archer even thou they aren't exactly the same, shit.

>>387609568
So that means i will be exposed as an gajin as soon as i play with others? Another reason not to play that.

Another DDO shill thread.
DDO is a insult to DDDA

>>387610691
What's bad with those? The Priest isn't mine I hired her so I can get heals.
Can Shield Sage do heals?

I would do Elemental Archer but I recieved Arisen Bow from CAPCOM so why not use it? It's vastly overpowered compared to anything else.

>>387602087
You can play it without problems, just get softether VPN. Theres also a english community.

>>387602087
DDO is literally the worst possible sequel DD could have received and one of the many bits of evidence we live in the worst possible timeline. The combat was the one part of the game that was for the most part fully realized and not just a really cool idea that's in a beta state, so DDO making the combat more boring by making everything have way more health and making "fight the same few enemy types over and over" the ENTIRE game instead of just most of it

They didn't expand on climbing, or the cool quest/world system where your actions can have pretty far reaching consequences, or make the classes they already had more interesting/balanced, they didn't make the level/world design any better and probably made it overall worse, and they made pawns way less interesting while not really fixing the issues with the mechanic.

All DDO did was add some new classes that cover the screen in particle effects like every shitty asian MMO, add a couple new toys to play with or play dressup as, and made it run worse.

I feel real bad for itsuno that after years of making capcom lots of money he finally got the chance to make his dream game, but capcom had rotted from the inside out by then so they fucked him in the ass multiple times by shafting DD and then only letting the followup be this cashgrab, and I shame anyone that supports it.

>>387610237
I like the warrior because its possibly the best Greatsword class I've played. Its slow, but fast enough that I don't feel sluggish, and its strong as fuck. It looks cool too. Alchemist is my main class, and I'm playing Lancer now.
You didn't put any promo codes in did you? Maybe its random? Damn, this blows. I need to look into this some more.

>>387605721
This. The patch is shit, and not comparable to having the full game translated in the slightest.

>>387610938
I did put in the promo codes for the daggers and shield sword but I got those in additon.

I have like 8 different mails that gifted me 2 passport courses and male/female gear for 4 classes

Did you start playing in Season 3.0 or before? Maybe it's a newbie thing.

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>>387609568
>>387609174
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>>387604683
>>387604635
>>387604552


I'll be honest, as a past Capcom fanboy because they fucking suck nowadays, and as a DMC fanboy still praying for DMC5, from my PoV this game has some stylishness to it, but it still looks slow as fuck. A bit too slow that it becomes uninteresting to me. For example, Toukiden II has much faster pace combat and some cooler weapons. DDO looks like baby monter hunter with more style, not a bad thing at all, but these webms I keep seeing don't do anything to make me go "WOW I need this in my life right now!" It also looks like a slower pace BDO too.

DDO won't come to the west because no one in the east likes it. Waste of time.

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>>387610881
you sound super mad faggot

>>387610881
Itsuno wanted DDO to be an MMO

>>387611109
>DMC "fanboy"
>All I care about is combos and speed
go back to the /cgg/ discord you fucking degenerate.

>>387611335
wew lad

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>>387611086
I started two weeks ago. I'd have to look in my inbox later to see if I got everything.

>>387611109
Alchemist is not supposed to be fast, although it is stylish with the dodges and detonation animation. If you want fast, play Seeker (Assassin) since it has a grappling hook now, or Spirit Lancer.

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>>387610806
because pawns play all other classes significantly worse than they play those 3.

They're not even that good at shield sage but they're better than the alternative of Pawn alchemist. Optimal party setup is tank/dps/dps/support (which translates to Shield Sage/Sorc/Sorc/EA when it comes to pawns).

Slot yourself into one of those roles and what's left is what you use for pawns.

>i don't need a tank and/or support class
yea you do if you wanna kill shit in a reasonable timeframe. Tanks are the only class that can elementally buff the party's weapons, which allow them to do bonus damage and inflict significant stamina drain if they hit the bosses weakpoint with their weak element. They also specialize in inflicting debuffs.

Supports are the only classes that can reveal weakpoints (which leads to significantly reduced rage periods) and are the only classes who can heal others, cure debilitations on party members and restore stamina.

Pawns play Sorcerers like a champ, better than some players honestly.

>>387611109
This may come as a surprise to you but the game was made to appeal to people who liked the original Dragon's Dogma. If you weren't a fan of that you won't like this. Seekers (featured in webm) are by far the fastest class and have an ability that animation cancels them out of literally anything (attacking, tumbling through the air from being hit, etc) on a ~3 second cooldown.

>>387610881
>They didn't expand on climbing
Climbing is still there. Now you can do stuff like catapult yourself onto enemies too.

>or the cool quest/world system where your actions can have pretty far reaching consequences
Agreed, that sucks, and given it's an MMO with instance based areas it should be possible to preserve different world states for players.

>or make the classes they already had more interesting/balanced
Warrior is alot better, so is Strider, and Alchemy/ Lancer are extremely fun to play at aside from being flashy.

>hey didn't make the level/world design any better and probably made it overall worse
DD:DA was just as bad. It was a sea of boring shit with some cool landmarks.
Bitterback isle was the only densely packed quality content in the game. and that's the expansion.

> they made pawns way less interesting while not really fixing the issues with the mechanic.
"Wolves hunt in packs arisen".

>All DDO did was add some new classes that cover the screen in particle effects like every shitty asian MMO
And are immensely fun to play as.

Listen, i'm not saying this was the ideal sequel. We all wanted a better DD2 with a Berserk-quality writing and characters, interesting game world and more interesting questing.

But as far as online experiences go, DD is one of a kind with it's combat.

Could it be much better? Yes. Is it bad now? No.

>>387611109
You're surprised a class that requires setting up is slow? In gameplay that isn't about you being a hurricane of murder?
Seriously DMCfag?

>>387611519
>Climbing is still there. Now you can do stuff like catapult yourself onto enemies too.
which makes it easier to do, but doesn't actually improve the mechanic at all.

>Warrior is alot better
if I want this I can just play the PC version. DDO fucks with the class balance because it falls into MMO holy trinity horseshit and splits up abilities between a bunch of classes so everyone is way more pidgeonholed, and all the new classes just boil down to spam2win.

I'm also not sure why "strider is alot better" is a good thing when that was already one of the best classes in the game

>DD:DA was just as bad. It was a sea of boring shit with some cool landmarks.
compared to DDO which is just sea of boring shit and PSP-tier mmo/hunter game style box rooms and hallways. where's stuff like watergods altar, shadow fort or bluemoon tower?

>"Wolves hunt in packs arisen".
literally not an argument. The pawn AI is more interesting and was generally better at playing all classes if you had the right knowledge/inclinations for them, meanwhile as >>387611460 is saying in DDO pawns are retards to encourage you to play with other people

>And are immensely fun to play as.
if I wanted to play an action MMO from asia where the combat largely boils down to "dodge attacks and spam your moves till it dies" I'd play dungeon and fighter

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>>387611109
Why the fuck are you even talking about DMC5? You're as cancerous as Platinumfags who expected constant CURAAAZZEEEEEH encounters out of Nier Automata, ignoring the fact that it isn't a sequal to MetalGearRising, but instead a sequel to Nier (shocking, I know).
Just the same, "__DRAGONS DOGMA___ Online" is based off of (brace yourself) "Dragon's Dogma", not fucking DMC, or Monster Hunter, or Toukiden2, or BlackDesert.

I don't get you "makes me think" image posting types. How can one be so stupid and retarded not to understand that the online version of a game is based on that game and not some random IP.

>>387605793
>cmon now, only ERP and muh roleplay fags do this

Well this is just untrue.

>>387606064
Why do they KEEP fuckin' re-releasing that game, man? Like shit, you could at least add something this time. Fucking Capcom.

>>387610803
>shill thread

So Japanese devs hired English speaking peoples to come to an american board to advertise their untranslated game here?

>>387602087
How does healing work in this?
As much as I liked the original game the pause healing with a million herbs shoved up the party's ass was garbage.

>>387612473
>amiercan board
Not a case for some time

>>387612846
What are you saying?

>>387612931
Moot doesn't own the website

>>387612702
No pausing since this is an mmo. On controller its really easy, hold, L2 and a menu comes up. Just hit whatever button its connected to and boom you're healed.

>>387612702
There's potions. You use them in real time. Thry are cheao. Thats about it aside from regular healing artes.

>>387613259
The servers and the userbase are american. Where are you even going with this aside from cheap bait?

>>387613457
>userbase are american
Clearly werent during /vint/

>>387602087
>slightly grindier
Are you nowhere near end game or have they toned it down significantly since S1? When I played, there was no way that could be considered "slightly" more grind, especially when things like that one gem (I think it was amethyst) existed.

>>387609619
Yeah, I know DD and love it. I just meant it works similarly to Vindictus with the instanced dungeons.

>>387615265
They give everyone boosts to get quickly to 3.0 content.

>>387610881
He's right you know.

>>387615290
Then yes, but unlike Vindictus there's a field map thats instanced too.

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>tfw not sure if I want DMC5 or Dragon's Dogma 2/DDO brought to the west

>>387611916
> which makes it easier to do, but doesn't actually improve the mechanic at all.
The mechanics are already decent, what did you think they should add.

>if I want this I can just play the PC version.
What does that have to do with anything?

>splits up abilities between a bunch of classes so everyone is way more pidgeonholed
True. But there's more expanding on the abilities of each class and more variety. You can't just shove Alchemist and Lancer into existing roles. Archer and Hunter are the only ones that feel like they should've been one class.

> and all the new classes just boil down to spam2win.
Literally wrong. Spamming without evading and positioning as alchemist is a quick way to get drop-kicked into a brine-vagina by a troll.

> where's stuff like watergods altar, shadow fort or bluemoon tower?
Like I said, DD:DA was some cool locations in a sea of shit. those locations were 10% of a game, and Bluemoon was only good for one sequence.

> DDO pawns are retards to encourage you to play with other people
Then try to play with other people? This IS an MMO you anti-social fuck. Also some classes are better played by pawns than players. The "learning pawn" was a nice gimmick that never really is or was a big deal if you were a really good player.

> combat largely boils down to "dodge attacks and spam your moves till it dies"

As opposed to...? Because I can derail any combat system to that explanation.

What do you do in Dark Souls? You roll and spam R1. What do you do in DMC? You Combo Cancel and spam another combo. What do you do in DD:DA? You spam movesets and roll/block. With the occasional cool manuevering with pawns.

One of the few games where this actually doesn't apply is MonHun.

>>387611394
he's not wrong. faggot

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>>387602087
Never

>>387616719
>The mechanics are already decent, what did you think they should add.
They should make stuff like weighing down enemies, attacking specific parts of enemies that aren't just "climb onto their face and kiss/gouge it to death, throwing enemies into other enemies and grappling more effective. They also didn't bother to make the controls for manouvering make any more sense and it still changes what direction moves you in the way you want halfway through climbing stuff based on weird camera/enemy positions.

>Like I said, DD:DA was some cool locations in a sea of shit. those locations were 10% of a game
And like ~I~ said, DDO doesn't even have 10%. What was stopping them from literally just copy pasting cool DD locations into the game? Did the shitty netcode not handle something of that size? Like don't even get me started on how cool multiplayer BBI could be

>What do you do in DD:DA? You spam movesets and roll/block.
The difference boils down to two things
>DD wasn't a game that was entirely about the combat like DDO is, so the sometimes simple combat was made fresh because of the slightly better quest/world variety, constantly changing into new classes (while keeping your level ups, unlike DDO which uses the retarded ff11 school of class change) and seeing your pawn become more effective

Also frankly the fact that DD did it first makes it ok. The combat was already pretty heavily flawed in this game so for DDO to be essentially the exact same but more and not really making the improvements it needed is a real shame.

>>387609034
You get a class to level 40 you get strong equipment for another class. Look it up on the website. If you get them all to 40 you'll get all class armor that will last you until level 72
Protip use the 2x exp ring

It took me a few tries to accept that I was NOT looking at some FFXIV footage.

That's why MMOs are dead.

This game is i.d.e.n.t.i.c.a.l. to FF14, which is identical to WoW in its own ways, etc.

There's 0 innovation in MMOs.

It breaks my heart. I miss the glory days of FFXI, Asheron's Call, and the original EverQuest.

That HUD and playstyle is the exact same fucking thing as FF14. They're all the same fucking game, over and over and over.

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>>387610237
>Warriors pretty boring

I bet you didn't even brace

>>387617810
Wrong thread m8?

>>387617872

No, I'm saying that these webms of DDO are identical to FF14. There is no difference. I can't tell the games apart.

All MMOs are just replicating each other without innovating or bringing anything new to the table.

>>387617810
Are you okay anon?

>>387604802
>MMO
>actual combat beyond two characters standing in front of each other recycling the same animation
>actual physics

This isn't fair. I loved DD. The online game not coming out here is such a bummer

>>387617998
I'm really worried about your eyesight if you think DDO is identical to FF14. Please be okay anon

>>387617998
Seek help.

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>>387617998
Lol

>>387618004

I'm just down. Thanks for asking, man. Just depressed.

I had the time of my life playing XI in its glory days, and want that not just for myself but for you younger guys too.

We'll never have that again if the gaming industry keeps putting out the same damn game over and over and calling it a different title.

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>>387618110

>>387618110

That's FF14. Same thing. Identical. Same chat window and HUD.

Same flashy weeabo nonsense. In fact, that looks like a FF14 NIN doing his thing.

Same fucking game.

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>>387618258
Lol

>>387603854
Alch is supposed to be offensive tank mostly through debuffing the enemy they're especially good at big climbable monsters and bosses they can stack lots of alchemy on but not so great at mobs and non-climbable stuff.

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>>387618385

>>387603854
>haha anon come play with all 4 of us gaijin on this server with incomplete translations and a userbase you can't communicate with
sounds great

>>387617852
Read the reply chain. I already said I meant Fighter.

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>>387618582
I was going down the thread and didn't see it until after I posted. My bad anon

What are authentication orbs? What can I do with them? Also where can I spend muh lottery tickets?

>>387618258
Have you spoken to someone about your vision impairments yet?

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>>387618657
Next time one of these threads pop up I should have some of the newer monsters. Maybe. Probably

>>387617725
Sweet. I like it when games do that, let's you focus on the important aspects of the games without dealing with gear grind.

>>387618657
It's okay bae.

Keep postin more webms.

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>>387618789
Its an event to celebrate the next season of content so its going to be over relatively soon. They hold these all the time though to help new players and reward old ones so thats how it goes

>>387618258
Anon. Stop for a second.

Do you understand what positioning is? What tab targeting as opposed to hitbox combat is like?
What are combo chains as opposed to rotations? What is movement versatility as opposed to static directional movement?

Do you understand the difference in combat between a Turn-based game to an action-oriented active one?

You are literally comparing an ATB to Cuhrazy combat.

>>387618959
Oh. so I won't get these bonuses outside of this week? shame.

>>387618557
Then don't play? I don't know what you want from me dude.

>>387618738
Tickets are for that chick to the left of the entrance to the Dragon's Palace. She's behind a counter. At least I think that's what you do with them. I haven't used them yet, but I remember seeing the ticket icon there.

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I've got more webms but i'm out for now. See you all next thread and hopefully in game sometime

>>387619219
You've got a bit to get it done. Website says until the 7th of next month before its over. Just use google translate on the page to see which class gets which weapon reward for leveling
https://members.dd-on.jp/info/detail/0/1698

>>387617439
I like the idea of weighing down enemies and I miss the fact we can't abuse weight gains anymore but you have to understand this is primarily an MMO and how you choose to customize your avatar should not play a part in game balance, even thou the concept is a novel one.
I don't mine the climbing positioning, I can deal with it.

> What was stopping them from literally just copy pasting cool DD locations into the game? Did the shitty netcode not handle something of that size? Like don't even get me started on how cool multiplayer BBI could be

I don't have a good answer to that. honest. But there are plenty of cool looking dungeons in DDO. it's a shame we don't have any clever mechanics here but honestly neither did BBI.

> the sometimes simple combat was made fresh because of the slightly better quest/world variety, constantly changing into new classes and seeing your pawn become more effective

I won't deny that those DID make me enjoy DD:DA alot and I liked all these experimental features but I will also not deny that if you remove the combat all you remain with was a half baked mediocre RPG no one would bat an eye at. Combat and dungeoning was the bulk of what made DD great and that part stayed.
Story is still very much a part of DDO but we don't read moon so experiencing it directly isn't a possibility to us and thus it's hard to judge beacuse we only get lore tidbits through summaries people make. The backdrop is interesting enough.

> the exact same but more and not really making the improvements it needed is a real shame.
Depends on what you call improvement. Customization IS improved, and more unique classes are a good addition, and more Pawn/Players in party create some crazy scenarios.

I'm not saying this is the best scenario for DD's future. I still want a new and expanded DD with better everything. But there are far worse fates for this IP than DDO.

One look at CAPCOM's other IPs should show you this.

>>387619490
Many thanks. too bad we didn't exchange info. I need someone to show me the ropes through the moon stuff.

>>387619926
I'm not that guy but you could argue that an MMO is a fate worse than death, because in this industry there's an occasional revival - but only when the previous game stops making money.

>>387620197

That didn't stop FFXV from being made. In fact FFXIV was fucked over with it's content just to make FFXV.

And Bethesda is probably already working on Skyrim 2: Enhanced Edition boogaloo but won't release it until people stop buying more Skyrim on different platforms.


You should worry more about the fact it's CAPCOM behind the wheels and less about the fact it's an MMO.

>>387620070
https://discord.gg/rUp4wxD

>>387619490
>>387620070

> Shield Sage : The main weapons for Alchemist "Aliens Cesar ( 4)", "Akira Akira no Earase" × 2, "Crest of Power · Reform" × 2

> forced to play the most unfun class to unlock stuff for the fun one

fucking WHY.

>>387620417
ff14 and ESO are part of long running series from some of the biggest companies/publishers in the industry

DDO is a psuedo-sequel to a one off cult hit from a company that's been on a largely downward spiral for about 10 years now

>>387620684
yeah, what i'm saying.

The problem isn't necessarily DDO being an MMO. It's the fact it comes from a company that thought Umbrella Corps, DmC, SFV and MvC:I was a good idea.

>>387620570
I feel you so much, is it even worth bothering?

>>387602087
>MFW Alchemist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNdcbFOThnA

>>387620939
I don't know. I assume it'll go easier with someone else. Or hire pawns and loath them as they have more fun than you.

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>>387620570
Yeah, fuck this. These motherfuckers want me to play PRIEST to get Spirit Lancer gear. Nah, I'm good.

>>387621172
I'm gonna try to do sage for a bit but If I start to feel burnt out i'm gonna say fuck this and just dosh out cash for better gear. No way fag.

Someone who plays alchemist - How to get new elixirs? Only got Torpor.

>>387621476
Buy them from that tent to your right before you leave town, or from the general goods place across from the weapoon shop.

>>387621729
Thanks. Also, is there any reliable way to gain Rift Crystals or is it just quest rewards?

>>387602087

I understand. The original albeit good very flawed, a squel or alternative is something desireable but i doubt even a petition will change it very risky i suppose for the devs to do anythign about it.

>>387606736
It's a pretty shitty feeling having played XI (since 2006) and what it was is over now. I don't enjoy any game anymore. It was a once in a lifetime experience. Everything sucka now.

>>387621817
Quests give you an ass ton of them, that's where most of mine come from. You'll have a huge stock pile of them by the end of season 1 content. Traveling with them is cheap as well, so don't be stingy if you need to teleport somewhere.

>>387622245
Go do something else then you sad sack of shit.

>>387622245

DOnt give up anon, widen your horizont. I play mmos/ and diablo stuff most of the time but kinda enjoy some gba castlevania today. take risks

>>387622245
lmao go outside nigga. Go fencing or something dude.

what's stopping other mmorpgs from having actual combat like DDO?

>>387622619
I want it to have pawns carry me to endgame. Fuck grinding unfun classes.

>>387624062
Lazyness to make skill based combat with stats rather than just stats with rotations.

TERA isnt even real action combat and BDO is a spam fest.

Hitbox based precise combat is hard to netcode, thats why stuff like DDO and Vindictus are mostly client and peer 2 peer.

>>387624145
Enjoy your xp reduction unless you shell out to the jews because you're not within 2 levels of them

>>387624636
Well fuck. And here I thought I had the easy way out. Fug. Maybe the season bonus will mitigate this thou.