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Why did Borderlands, and this fucking thing in particular, get

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Why did Borderlands, and this fucking thing in particular, get popular in the first place?

Looking back, it's really loud and obnoxious
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>>387597950
Diablo with guns, cool art style (even if stolen) and decent humor (in BL1).

Claptrap was pretty annoying even in the first game but I guess Reddit crowd ate that one up.
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>>387597950
Claptrap was okay before he went overboard like everything else in BL2
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Borderlands 1 wasn't loud and obnoxious. Borderlands 2 was but it maintained a good loot shooter experience with a ton of variety, but the story and characters suffered.
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Normies like loud and obnoxious.
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>>387598618
No we don't
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>>387597950
I don't think anyone likes Claptrap. People like to hate him because he's designed to be annoying and he constantly gets shit on in the games so that's a plus.
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Playing it for the first time with my sister we are having a blast it is borderlands 2 good like the first one? Got them with the bundle
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>>387597950
>it's really loud and obnoxious

Gearbox in a nutshell
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>>387599802
/v/ will tell you it's chock-full of reddit memes but it's exaggerated, honestly. It's more of the same, with some more variety.
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>>387600042
Thanks for the you anon we are looking forward to beat both games now
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BL1 had a good balance of humor and over the top Fallout 1/2 'ish wasteland ambience. Claptrap was not funny as a character or because he was annoying, he was funny because he was a fitting contrast with the semiserious tone of the game.

All of BL2 was basically different shades of claptrap humor. Funny if you're 12 or spend all your time on /r/funny and /r/gaming
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>>387600641
>>387598161
Why is everything about reddit with you guys?
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>>387597950
>It's really loud qnd obnoxious
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>>387602195
Jokes are typically funny. Randy's life is a joke, Claptrap is not.
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Claptrap may be annoying
but I would still fuck him
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>>387600042
No isn't you stupid
Borderlands 2 get retard in NG+
Every weapon became useless after 2 levels
And find me 1 (one) good tract about Lilith
Pro tip:you can't
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>>387597950
Minion prototype, prove me wrong.
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>>387602554
You are autistic
Prove me wrong.
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>>387598231
100% this.
>>387598479
Also this. There wasn't a whole lot o f story, but it was actually pretty grim most of the time. That's why the moments with humor shined through, even then mostly in the DLCs. It's not like the humor bits were even that sophisticated or any crap like that, kind of like how the zombie dlc had a sidequest where you were picking up recordings left by characters that were basically just Scooby and Shaggy with all the references. The difference is those kind of jokes have a short self life and ended when they hit it. If that was in BL2, we'd pretty much have an entire obnoxious quest that wouldn't go a moment without reminding the player that it's a scooby doo reference and the quest itself would just be going to an area and fighting a normal enemy with a bigger health bar and a custom name, while the explanation of the reference plays in the background over the radio.
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>>387601518
He actually has a point with Claptrap being reddit incarnate. Loud, obnoxious, random, intentionally annoying, and self-deprecative.
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>>387597950
He was okay in first game. Reminding me about quests and all that.
I actually felt somewhat sad in the end of claptastic voyage. No idea why did they even think that making him annoying would be a good idea.
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>>387597950

From what I remember it was fun getting the randomly generated guns and getting them to sync up with your talent tree.

It was always really satisfying when you got one that worked great.
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>>387603556
>literally breaking the game's DPS cap with Siren
>elemental kill effects in BL1 as a whole
>BL2 needing to bullshit the DPS cap to do anything past TVHM
>Lilith is a cunt and the devs don't seem to notice
I want a do over.
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>>387598161
>even if stolen
Stolen from what?

Faggot
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>>387603927
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best girl coming through
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>>387603927
>>387604040
No, he's talking about a 3d animated short that looks a lot like Borderlands, not just cel shading.
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>>387603927
Why, don't you remember Codehunters, Randy?
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>>387603927
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmeP1YkaeTo
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>>387599375
I like him. But im a loud obnoxious person that showers and has sex unlike /v/.
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i heard that they want to make Borderlands 3 more like 1, if that is the case then maybe there is hope.
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>>387604841
But claptrap doesn't shower or have sex.

I mean sure people like him conceptually as a character but not as a person.
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>>387605067
I haven't heard anything about Borderlands 3.
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>>387605076
Would an oilbath and raping your ears count as sex?
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>>387605067
Personally I fucking despised Borderlands 1. I'm on the fence of picking up the handsome collection of borderlands 2 but I don't know if it'd be fun playing it alone because i have no friends
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>>387605067

After being disappointing by the ending of 2 (which I finished a few days ago), my dream for BL3 would be an "open-world" space game where you travel to planets and doing vault runs.

Borderlands 2 has good gameplay, but it's all over the place and in the end the story doesn't make sense and the characters are annoying, if they would focus on gameplay and exploration for 3 with a more simple story and few good key characters it would be a good game.
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>>387605283
if you disliked the first i don't think you will like the second unless you love meme jokes and enemies bullet sponges
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Jack did nothing wrong
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>>387600641
i bet you enjoy the films of wes anderson
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>>387598618
Shut up, nerd. How would you actually know what normal people like? You can't even maintain eye contact, let alone a conversation.
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>>387603041
>Loud, obnoxious, random, intentionally annoying, and self-deprecative.

Good thing, you never encounter any of these traits on this website.
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>>387603041
That actually sounds like you guys, always loud about some other site, poor self-esteem and crying about real people/non-nerds.
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>>387597950
>Good music design
>Co-op RPG shooter adventure is a pretty unusual genre
>lotsa guns
>silly

I never cared about Claptrap. He's not really in the story much, for better or worse.
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>>387605683
Aside from being morally reprehensible and a natural sociopath? No, the events of TPS show us that Jack really didn't do nothing. It was all the fault of Zarpedon and the VHs.
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>>387604652
Frankly who gives a shit, even DaVinci, Van Gogh, Salvador Dali and even M.C. Escher all stole art, it was a living. Truly no one is original, making copies is how money was made.
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>>387599802
Just enjoy some good old fashioned coop romp, instead of trying to intentionally find every flaw in the writing, so you have something to get angry about, and you will have a good time.

Especially the first playthrough is a good time.
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>>387606145
>Mentioning actual, legitimate artists on /v/
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>>387606145
For gaming terms let's look at "trends"
China literally copies everything successful and makes a shittier version.
People making soulsborne clones
People making arena and hero shooters
People making fucking any rpg in every existence, because we only have four fucking stories to tell over and over with a spin.

FUCK ALL OF YOU.
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>>387605530
If they kept the main storyline going over multiple planets, but also give the possibility to do side quests in randomly generated vault missions with crazy extra effects and special challenges, I would dig it.
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>>387606491
Hi randy
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>>387605167
With those honkers on the side of your head ye was askin for it, Dumbo!
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>>387606405
>actual
yes
>legitimate
what qualifies as legitimate? all of them made replicated copies for a living, they never sold anything of their own mind until late in their career or decades after their death/
Whether that qualifies as legitimate is debatable at best. And even their own original works are spin offs of previous minds. Just like every generation gap artist that came after them. Notice I mentioned a generation or even two split. Many artist copy each other and recolor each others shit. It's art, because we feel like calling it that, Jackson Pollock is art to some trash to everyone else. And he's the biggest piece of shit in the art scene right next to Andy fucking Warhol.
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how was playable claptrap on the pre sequel?
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>>387606552
Randy wouldn't be rational to this, nor is anyone else here. He would lie through his teeth to say it's his own mindset, when it's perfectly acceptable to be a hack, every artist made a living like that, yet people ignore that fact. Even mother fuckers that draw porn follow trends of other artist for fuck sake.
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>>387606538
>no man's borderlands
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>>387606787
His special was useless in solo and barely did anything in co-op.
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>>387606787
It was fun. the downsides could be worked with and werent fatal. Still could be annoying though.
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Someone post that screencap already.
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is 2 still played? I'm doubting about buying it.
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>>387606857
Yeah, it being wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle is being a risk.

But they would not need to procedurally generate whole planets. Just take the assets and tiles, you made for the campaign levels and stock them up with a shitload of flexible chunks, create some iconic and unique setpieces.

Good procedural generation is not easy to do. But that does not mean it is impossible.

And it is the only reasonably way I see, to give the game a bit more replayability. Which is one of my main gripes, having to play the same cutscenes and areas over and over again.
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>>387607112
Same. I keep hearing people say that solo is kind of fun, but it's dated and undoubtedly better with friends. I'm still unsure because the handsome collection is like $20 right now, so it's between either this or sonic mania
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>>387607240
>and undoubtedly better with friends
Not if you play as a sniping Zero.
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>>387607240
Get sonic mania and pretend borderlands presequel never existed. If you played 2 and had all the DLC, the pre-sequel is just gonna be a huge fucking let down, because they phoned the entire thing in and it still has gamebreaking bugs that still occur to this day, because they outsourced it while making blunderborn.
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>>387607112
2 has about 8-12k average players still. Same for 1.
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>>387607503
I'm leaning towards sonic, but I never played borderlands 2 or any of the dlc. I figured the $20 deal might've warranted a purchase
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>>387606067
>low level shitter at hyperion except kind of above middle management because of a lucky guess about pandora
>apparently could afford a body double to get surgery to look like him even as a low level codemonkey
>is kind of a decent guy when introduced in TPS, although apparently still enslaved his daughter for some reason before that
>the moon could break at any moment, except it won't no matter how much the death ray slams into the core
>gets to the surface, decides he likes killing people
>erases a sentient AI because apparently copying takes longer than transferring
>despite the AI being sentient, he doesn't even attempt to negotiate the constructor body as a temporary measure to save the moon
>deletes personality for some reason even though combat protocol was already in there and the two were pretty much separate
>decides he likes killing in the most over the top way possible, shoots random scientists out of an airlock on the suspicion of treason, but doesn't even consider Roland and Lilith two experienced, amoral mercenaries of possibly being paid off
>gets betrayed because there's "something wrong with him" despite only having known issues with wrath within the last few hours
>betrayal was premeditated long before this and done in a way that's the equivalent of a bond villain trap, minus any actual physical restraints or imprisonment
>sees the future but it conveniently leaves out the part where he dies
>TPS was made to explain more of Jack
>literally the only thing up for question, enslaving his daughter for some reason, is completely ignored and never brought up once
Jack's a fucking train wreck of a character that was saved from a good voice actor who had to ad lib to survive the script. At this point I don't care. He shouldn't even be hinted at indirectly in BL3.
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>>387607614
oh my bad read wrong post
2 is worth while to pick up on sale, especially if you can get it with all actual DLC content
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It would relly easy for gearbox to adapt the map system in path exile to borderlands themes.
Also give us options for UI, customizable loot filter
And real characters, intead of everyone being a humanized claptrap.
I'll buy it.
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>>387607732
>who had to ad lib to survive the script
What's that?
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>>387608050
Make up his own lines on the fly. The "these pretzels suck" line was made up by Dameon Clarke on the spot.
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>>387600431
Don't listen to that anon. 2 is an inferior inexperience with less guns as revolvers and repeaters are now the same, a new gun artstyle that tends to lead to frankenguns, fucked scaling, annoying characters a bit of flanderization.
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>>387608190
Oh wow. Bravo Anthony.
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>>387608475
I don't have a link on hand, but Anthony even comments on this, "jokingly" saying that the most famous line from the character he wrote was improvised and that he'd "never forgive" Dameon for it. Considering it's Anthony, I have a hard time believing he wasn't genuinely being a passive aggressive little bitch.
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The gameplay is fun, the looting is fun, and the writing, while obnoxious, isn't actually there too much.

It's the only genuinely good example of an FPS diablo I can think of.
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>>387607732
Anon, you just summed up so many problems I had with the plot holes in TPS.

>Jack's low level but not really but somehow rich enough to afford Wilhelm who is the best bounty hunter in the galaxy
>His office is not something a guy of his rank should have
>He and Moxxi have already kinda sort of dated and yet she's helping him, despite the fact he's supposed to have destroyed the Underdome for breaking up with him
>Lilith

The only good things I'll say about TPS was the new setting, laser guns and zero grav was kind of fun.
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>>387604374
This is absolutely correct

She's the best Vault Hunter I've played as so far, the elemental effects coupled with Deathtrap going ham is just so good.
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>>387605283
I've played every Borderlands game solo and enjoyed all of them.

Am I insane? Maybe
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>>387608750
I actually liked the Laser guns, cryo damage was an outright upgrade to slag, low gravity was great, and the skill trees were the best in the series. Unfortunately everything else about the game, from the plot to how those improvements were implemented are terrible enough to outweigh legit improvements to the point where I would sooner cut off my left hand than touch the game again. God knows I tried. I did pic related so nobody else would ever have to. The 2017 timestamp came from a miss click on the install button.
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>>387609141
Once again, you're not wrong. I'm sure laser guns will make a comeback, but I can only hope Randy can balance his fucking game and write a decent plot.
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>>387606697
>stolen

Have any of you ever produced anything in your life? Do you know the meaning of the word stolen?

Things are not stolen. Those artists, many others and even the whole development team of borderlands never STOLE anything. They are based on previous aesthetics, like literally EVERYTHING in the world is. Not just art, but engineering, agriculture, science and everything else. Would you say the scientists working on the modern research of nuclear microscopy are stealing from the greek, who came up with lenses in the first place? You wouldn't unless you're a retard. Unless those paintings were literally replicated and outright sold under their own name it would be "stolen".
Works are 99% of the time based upon others and expanded, it's simply how things grow.

>inb4 meme replies
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>>387607503
This is true, but the DLC seems to be a bit better. Overall I haven't hated it as much on replaying as I did the first time.
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>>387607240
Yes, it's good. I played twice alone and currently with some friends. Everything is better with friends. Shoveling shit is better with friends, it's absolutely not an argument as to why you should judge a game. If references ofend you to the point of vomit as it does to /v/ then don't buy it. If you're a normal person, they won't bother you at all.
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>>387607732
Amazing that AI Jack in Tales was a much more well rounded character than anything in 2 and PS.
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>>387609531
I think that's the best send off we're ever going to get for the character. A lot is still unanswered but getting the moments we got with him in TftBL is a shitty, poorly written character having moments of quality. That's already more than could be realistically hoped for.
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>>387609731
I genuinely hope they just let the guy die in Borderlands 3. If they try and include him again it'll be ridiculous.
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>>387609343
I think you're looking for the post two blocks down.
I was pointing out it's ridiculous to ridicule someone for "stealing" art, as even great well known artist were all technically thieves and forgers. That's how "artists" made a living, imitating other people's art that people liked at the time to make money. This goes true for every single fucking generation.
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>>387609343
Hi randy
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Any news on a third one anyway?

Graphics wise I don't even think they need to change much.
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>>387610267
Script is done.
Graphic fidelity they have done a shit ton of work in lighting and shadow department, but otherwise no. I doubt most of the work done will be put in use such as real time lighting and shadow that puts backdrop on seeing people move around outside windows and such.
Otherwise it's in development hell.
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>>387610554
I'm torn. On the one hand I'd like to see their flops push it along, but on the other I'll be incredibly disappointed if they rush it and release a shit product.
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>>387610698
i doubt they'll rush it unless they're really in a critical spot financially and i doubt they're in that critical spot. randy is a fucking moron but borderlands as an IP does not fuck around.
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I hope they have some word on BL3 at pax.
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>>387611224
When is it?

A 2018 release date would be nice
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>>387604374
But anon that's not Angel
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>>387611424
September 1st
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>>387611658
Cool. We can hope.
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Despite what /v/ says, I prefer 2 over 1.
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>>387612419
Same. 1 felt too empty most of the time.
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>>387605727
Wes Anderson is good though. Whats so wrong about liking him?
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>>387597950
The claptraps in BL1 weren't that bad, they were quirky but they pretty much only showed up when you were moving from one hub to the next or in the fetch quests for the inventory expanders, so when they showed up or did something funny it would be endearing.

In 2, they made him into a singular character and he was, as you say, really loud and obnoxious.
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>>387612419
I unironically think BL2 is a 9/10 despiste what /v/ says. Never did I found opponents particularly hard or spoongy until UVHM, which in all honestly sucked (but then again, you could basically see all the game has to offer by TVHM and I consider UVHM a "bonus") and the writing never particularly put me off or made me cringe (I actually liked some of the jokes, in fact). Shame that I played it for so long, I just can't get myself to play it again after I poured 150+ hours into it with different characters and finishing the game with all of them.

Jack is unironically also one of my favorite characters in vidya.
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>>387612419
same. 2 was a blast. Nothing like finding a better gun. Love that loot.
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>>387597950
I wish we'd gotten the version of him from the web series, that was the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL4QNsaqnz4
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A big problem with BL is that if you run off to do DLC when you're at a suitable level, you spend the rest of the game overlevelled and then it's just dull. Also if you do all the optional quests before moving on then you're overlevelled as well
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>>387597950
The gameplay of borderlands 2 is actually fun. I literally just drown out the story and go for the raids and high level content as soon as possible
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>>387612962
It depends. If you do ALL quests from a DLC, then yes. If you stick to main quest, it doesn't change much.

I find is great for replay value, since you can mix main story with Torgue/PirateBooty in the next playthroughs and in UVHM is "do whatever you want".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGogidkqUsQ


What more can be said, Borderlands truly is the game for me, it has it all -Memes, epic loot, phat tunez and it shatters the genre of fps
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Exponential scaling was a mistake.
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>>387612962
I feel like there should be better mission scaling in general. Why not have missions automatically scale based on the level you are when you accept them?
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>bullet sponge: the game

No thanks
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>>387606067
>morally reprehensible and a natural sociopath
Like 90% of people on Pandora? Who woulda thunk it?
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>>387613279
Fucking this, Borderlands 2 breaks down completely at high levels because of the absurd memetastic 'bazillions of numbers' damage scaling, which makes every single weapon that isn't the highest level completely worthless. In the first one, I had a legendary sniper with a level req of 42, which I was still able to use at the level cap. In 2, anything two or more levels below the cap is essentially incapable of dealing damage. This is why I never got into it as much as the first one.

That and the story line that boils down to "Oh, you played and enjoyed the first one? You fucking idiot retard, the whole time you were playing that you were actually being manipulated by this new character who's much cooler and stronger than all the characters from that game, and also all of them are completely shit now and we're going to make you walk through the literal destroyed ruins of the comfy home town of that game. Also that one random guy you met that was kind of memorable was actually an exiled billionaire weapons designer not just a crazy desert hermit, completely breaking the atmosphere of being in a random backwater (i.e. the 'borderlands'), also we'll forget that the bloodwing was male, because if it's female that's more poignant when we kill it off for shock value, also we'll kill off a former player character in one shot after a fight in which he can invincibly face-tank unlimited missiles, despite the fact he should have a shield, health and the ability to respawn... basically, fuck you for liking the first one you stupid piece of shit."

No, I'll never stop being mad.
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>>387614159

>It's a living
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>>387614159
Those are some nitpicky things to be bothered by.
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>>387603556
>that first Hyperion combat rifle
Worked like a fucking Singer.
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>>387614159
>In 2, anything two or more levels below the cap is essentially incapable of dealing damage
I really only found that to be true in NG++, I didn't have any problems with the game until then. It's a whole lot more bearable in TPS since they don't regenerate
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>>387598618
Actually they hate them so much they turn every loud and obnoxious character into a meme
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>>387607732
sus me dude
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>>387614159
Respawn machines are non canon.
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>>387597950
>it's really loud and obnoxious
that's the joke
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>>387597950
I haven't played the first, but that annoying piece of shit is the reason I only have 30 minutes in BL2.
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I'd still like to see a Bl3 that went back to its roots. Loved the first game and while very flawed, the second game had a lot to like about it. Unfortunately, I could see the next game just being a Destiny clone. I'm surprised this isn't Gearbox's primary focus, though. Aren't they still trying to peddle Battleborn and now some FPS card game?
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>>387614159
The worst thing about max level play in BL2 is that it just all relies on the health gating mechanic. Hell you could become invincible by getting an OP8 turtle shield to bring you down to 5000 health, and then get a health regen class mod and you would never die.
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>>387615316
Battleborn is because they have to support it, the card game I'd imagine is a F2P cash-in attempt.
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>>387611528
Angel is a slut SLUT
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Great artstyle, big variety of guns and alright humour. Claptrap was annoying but not that abnoxious in the first game and saving Claptraps gave you inventory space and sometimes good loot. In Borderlands 2 Burch gave the robot way more screentime and morphed him from a more or less helpfull annoying but kinda funny robot into a social awkward loser because relatable I guess. Also great DLC, including Moxxis Underdome as it was a great multiplayer experience and a great idea. Borderlands 2 was not that good and Presequel kinda got on the right path so I hope Borderlands 3 will be good (including switching Burch with an actual good writer that gets the games atmosphere
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>>387616319
Are you saying the DLC of 2 was bad?
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>>387616745
Only good DLCs is Tiny Tina and Campaign of Carnage because of the atmosphere. All the others I didn't enjoy, especially the Holiday or Headhunter DLCs and the fact they sold Skins as DLCs.
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for actual bl1 content that's still ongoing, see:
https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/mr-gjs-weapons-items-arsenal-latest-revision-22-04-2017/10007
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>>387617035
You didn't like the Torgue one?
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>>387617041
11/10 post. Thanks anon.
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>>387617157
Yes I liked it and the Tiny Tina one. Everything else didn't impress me that much or didn't have that many memorable moments so to say
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>>387617282
At the very least the Pirate one had Jesper Kid;s best for the OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMdfWU9ePwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5MPeM5pWNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvPMKN2-cAY
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>>387617230
i like to share what i've found, it's a grind, but just grab the mediocre and severe vials, get the pearls and coms from the mediocre, and use the severe if you want t o grind for the bloodless, which to date, we've been unable to find thus far.
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>>387598161
How the fuck do you "steal" an art style?
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>>387617615
Got a good point there anon. I actually remember the OST of Pirate Booty to be mostly good. Really liked Magnys Lighthouse personally but I really disliked the fact that Big Game Hunt and mostly the headhunter DLCs recycled the main game soundtrack. Also to bash the Headhunter DLCs a bit more, personally I think they lack creativity and are just cashgrabs. A thing that is also wrong with Borderlands 2 is the end game. You have to use slag all the time and have all your inventory space taken up by weapons you need to even walk a couple meters without dying. Presequels and 1s endgame was more fun and I also think that Cryo was way better and fun than slag
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early game sucks ass i can't stand how fucking awful the guns are
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>>387618480
True that. Good thing is that you get good and fun to play weapons quite fast like the Bone Shredder and TK's Wave (even though I always get it at level 10 even though it's for Level 5 and doesn't do shit compared to the stuff I already have at that point)
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>>387618480
Actually I only find the game fun when I'm still levelling.
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>>387617615
All the Borderlands music is underrated.
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>>387619019
I'm talking early early guns, the rifles/smgs that you can't even have fun with, or kill stuff with for that matter
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>>387615439
I think I went a bit too OP
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I had to dropped borderlands after that forced vehicle area. Fighting with cars just isn't fun.
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>>387619439
All you had to do was drive in circles and shoot behind you. Works every time.
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>>387619339
How the fuck
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What do you guys expect for borderlands 3?
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>>387619554
Player health doesn't scale on OP levels, so an OP 8 turtle shield can bring you down to 1 health.
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>>387619654
destiny clone
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>>387619554
The HP drain from Turtle shields scales with item level. Past a certain point they're useless because they leave you with 0 health. This has the side effect of activating any 'fight for your life' based skills, but comes with a big fuckin' downside of getting you knocked out if you take literally any damage at all. Even if the shield is up.
For that screenshot I equipped a +HP class mod and that somehow gave me 1 HP
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>>387619654
I hope for a good last game with a pleasing ending and good gameplay with elements from Borderlands 1 and the Pre Sequel and a bunch of new mechanics that would make the game unique, like Oz Kits and low grav was in the Pre Sequel. Besides that I just hope for more of the same and they don't fuck up. It's a series I really like and it would be terrible to see it go to shit in the last entry
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>>387608896
you are a well-rounded person with agreeable taste
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>>387608896
I had more fun when I played with friends, but I played 1 and 2 and enjoyed them solo, though I had to really put some fucking blinders on to get through the writing in 2.
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>>387620309
I second this
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>>387608896
Maybe indeed but otherwise I would say you have an alright taste in videogames and are not terrible for liking the games. I did so myself
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Will Tina be a VH in BL3? Yes/no would it be good/bad?
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>>387597950
it was the first good looter shooter

there's still not a lot of good looter shooters, the division tried but the setting sucks and the mechanics aren't good either

there's still not any great looter shooters so borderlands will stay popular
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>>387620776
I would like her to be one. Athena and Gaige should return as well.
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>>387598161
>Reddit
Fucking idiot.
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Cuz it’s badass ??? :D
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>>387620776
Sure, as long as:
>they age her up to be like 23
>her class is based around explosives
>she now has a giant pair of tits
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>>387606145
Go away Randy nobody likes you
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>>387605683
The only thing he did wrong was caring for Angel. I hated Angel since the first game and once I finally got to kill her, Jack turns into a sniveling bitch. I fucking hate BL2 so much.
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>>387597950
because, simply put, these games are epic for the lols my dude!
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>>387601518
>>387605893
>>387621739
>say [shitty character] is liked by reddit
>defensive redditors come out of the woodwork to protect the honor of their favorite site
If you like it so much why are you here?
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>>387605683
And he didn't deserve this.
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while i still greatly enjoy bl1, 2 was a weak sequel and TPS wasn't worth a damn past the new mechanics. at least people still make stuff for the original.
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>>387612419
I can see why people like BL1 more but for me it's just missing too much of everything
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I'm playing the Pre Sequel claptrap DLC at the moment.

This final boss is fucking hard. Really hard. I've enjoyed this DLC infinitely more than the main game though.
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>>387597950
Because it came as this sort of gray area where everyone loved the whole "LOL SO RANDUM XD" type shit, and big numbers in video games were king. It didn't matter that all the guns were pretty much copy and paste, because there was "MILLIONS OF GUNS DUDE". It appealed to that young crowd of late millennials/early gen z kids.
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>>387622992
That asshole deserved everything he got
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>>387614159
I'm fairly certain they said at one point they didn't want to raise the level cap because it would break the game, then did it anyway
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>>387620776
I'm guessing the chick from the tech demo is Tina. Ashley Burch is still doing that VA protest so she'll hopefully have a better voice this time around.
I'd rather have a fresh batch of Vault Hunters that fill in the archetypes of soldier, hunter, siren, and berserker while the DLC Vault Hunters can be recurring characters like Tina, Loader Bot, Captain Scarlett and others.
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>>387623468
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>>387623339
Eclipse/EOS is the best fight in the game
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>>387622568
>your are so stupid that you don understand that BD was before reddit.

But it's ok, your brain is easy to manipulate that you want to fit here.

Keep trying, kiddo.
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>>387608319
>new gun artstyle that tends to lead to frankenguns
as opposed to old art style which lead to all guns looking the same
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>>387624654
>A redditor recoils in fear
Keep digging that hole friendo
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>>387612419
1 is hilariously bare-bones, there's very little variety between various animal types and then you have bandits who are obviously all the same regardless of location. And locations, oh god the locations - you have desert, trash and trashy desert. Oh joy! And the bosses fucking suck.

DLCs are good though. And I managed to enjoy the game anyways, there's something alluring about it being so dull. You just shoot things over and over and over while a soothing pseudo-Western OST is playing. It's relaxing as fuck.
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>>387623979
Finally did it. Damn that thing was a bullet sponge, and I came really close to dying a couple of times.

I ended up cheesing it a bit by bouncing up and down on a jump pad
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>>387623780
Amazing how the tech demo doesn't actually look that much better than the previous games.
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>>387605893
>you guys
you need to go back
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>>387625103
That's the thing, I can't see how anyone could genuinely enjoy 1 without doing other things in the background, like listening to podcasts and stuff. It's too samey otherwise.
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>>387605893
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>>387625258
Amazing how you can make a judgement of a tech demo by looking at a 720p compressed youtube screenshot!

>>387625381
Yeah, I wasn't exactly defending BL1.
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>>387625381
i have a mix on 100% of the time, personally. the ambiance is cool for the first hundred hours, but...
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>>387622135
>tiny tina
>giant tits
Something about that feels very wrong
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>BL1 has custom weapons
>BL2 only has edits of existing weapons
Unless I'm out of the loop I wish BL2 had new guns.
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>>387597950
The fun premise of a Diablo-like shooter with great weapon various was something that really only worked for one game.
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>>387625971
They wouldn't give her massive tits, she's not the sort.

Maybe as a character you do a Krieg style thing. She's grown up and more normal now, but give her abilities based around explosions, and then ass there's more and more explosions they stack and she frenzies and goes to the way she was in 2.

For example. An explosions based vault hunter would be neato.
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>>387624789
>Got anally devastated
>Keeps calling me redditor

Underage people aren't allowed here, my assblasted friend.
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>>387626360
So she'd just be Blast Master Brick but with Krieg's Light The Fuse as her action skill?
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>>387626832
I dunno, something like that. There's a lot of potential in explosions.

As much as people say they want old Vault Hunters back, I'd really like the four standard ones still. One siren, one melee, one deployable, and one guns gimmick.
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>>387625992
they released the engine for bl1, people use the same programs that the devs used to make the game to make new maps and gun meshes. bl2, not so much.
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Now I have an itch to play some Bl1.
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>>387627658
get
>>387617041
and oasis, willowtree, and go have some fun.
>>
Tales 2 when
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>>387628003
Real talk, I'm making my way through the tales from the borderlands right now for the first time. It's fucking good, and I don't really even like telltale games
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>>387628156
How far through are you? I won't spoil anything.
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>>387628156
It's okay, probably the best thing telltale has done.
It's still a telltale "game" tho
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>>387628205
I just beat the third episode, they're about to go back to hyperion I think? Gortys is adorable
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>>387628362
Cool. Episode 4 is arguably one of the best ones. It has probably the best musical intro. Gortys is the cutest.

It really is amazing how good Tales is considering that it should majorly suck.
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>>387628348
Yeah it's still that, but I like it miles more than wolf among us
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>>387628564
It's the best thing Telltale has made. It was also made by the B team who were constantly getting moved between projects (especially because it was deemed financially unsuccessful).

Funny really.
>>
>>387628520
Right? I got the season pass free and thought I'd try it out even though I don't particularly like borderlands all too much. They did a great job
>>
>>387628653
It's was a clever idea having two protagonists at odds with each other, the robots are really good in their roles too
>>
>>387628767
The robots are great, and a great example of how good the characterisation is in it. Even the robots have more personality than most videogame characters.

It's especially important in a Telltale style game, but people underrate the importance of having good characters. That is to say, well rounded ones that aren't perfect in every way. Rhys is regularly a dick, and Fiona is a bad person. That doesn't mean I can't really like them.
>>
I liked this series though. Borderlands 1 hasn't aged well though.
>>
>>387629939
It's only a few years old.
>>
>>387630146
Borderlands 1 came out 8 years ago.
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>>387631265
Wait waht
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>>387600641
>BL1 had a good balance of humor and over the top Fallout 1/2 'ish wasteland ambience. Claptrap was not funny as a character or because he was annoying, he was funny because he was a fitting contrast with the semiserious tone of the game.

The part about contrast is completely correct. Many of characters being presented were parodies of characters from other shooters/rpgs and their stories were more humorous subversions of things you had seen before.

Borderlands 2 stopped this and started to take borderlands as a franchise seriously excepting maybe handsome jack who somewhat continued the tradition.

Its unfortunate that the second game was so far up its own asshole.
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>>387632110
Is there anything lazier than posting someone else's post?
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>>387632414
Probably not, but there's not much more pathetic that making a post for no reason other than to point that out
>>
>>387632414
Not working and feigning a mental disorder for welfare?

Can't wait for bl3... had no interest in pre-seq, should i have?
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This guy right here
>Most fun to play
>Sexy
>Cute as fuck
>Literal perfection
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>>387632590
Pre sequel isn't great. I played it for the first time recently. I just gave up on the side quests because they're horrible.

The DLC is legitimately good though, the final boss of the DLC is probably the best in all the Borderlands games.
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>>387632910
>Most fun to play
>Sexy
>Cute as fuck
>Literal perfection

That's not Gaige
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>>387633012
>pet class
>ever being most fun in anything
>makes up for sloppy aiming ontop of it all
If you need a crutch and have no friends, I could see you thinking that.
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>>387633012
the screaming she does whenever she gets hit was just too annoying to deal with
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>>387604040
Sequel when?
>>
I love the games, I intensely despise the writing.
>>
I wish I could give Borderlands 1 another go, but I've already exhausted it with the one tolerable character.
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>>387632956
Thanks dude, for $10 at g2a maybe i'll pick it up.
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>>387633343
I don't recall that. I guess it didn't bother me that much.

Pre-sequel bothered me when I was play as the Jack doppelganger after I got the "badass Jack" ability. This line is the fucking WORST when it's repeated over and over

>“You don't know — my name! AWWWWWW, we did it, folks, yeah, we did it!”
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I want a playable Loaderbot in 3

With Gortys being the summons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZjRb4DSDps
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Angel's redesign after BL1 will always piss me off.
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>>387626497
Lol, doubling down on your defensive autistic screeching I see.
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>>387634008
Anon, please. It's not okay to poke fun at the mentally disabled
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>>387633990
This. She was perfect in 1. Why the fuck did they give her that retarded haircut.
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>>387634270
Because it was badass XD
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>>387634270
>guardian angel
>guides you but suspicious as fuck
>looks like a typical angel but with raven black hair instead of platinum blonde
It was such a good fucking design.
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>>387634270
she was too pretty
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>>387632910
>kill one guy
>bloodsplosion causes a chain reaction and kills everything in the room
Mania bloodlust Krieg is god tier.
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>>387633941
>Playable Loaderbot
That would be pretty cool. I had an idea for its action skill, it would be like Crapflap's in TPS where it selects and deploys a random non-shit special ability based on all the different Loader variants from 2 like deploying an ION shield that regenerates you/your allies' shields or a set of huge autocannons. Like Crapflap you'd be able to unlock more options by taking certain skills
>>
>literally never been in the same room as an adult male
You really can't get any more pure than Angel
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its pretty xd random but its damn fun. i try to ignore most diaogue
anyone want to play bl2 on ps4 co op
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>>387635328
>PS4
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>>387626360
PLAYABLE TORQUE
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>>387635386
handsome collection
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>>387635464
I'm aware of that. I'm saying why would anyone want to play on PS4
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>>387635494
i have bad pc
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>>387635592
BL2 runs well on toasters
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>>387632910
>>387633012
>me and my friend play as Krieg and Gaige
>everything dies in seconds and there's nonstop screaming about Anarchy and MEAT
FUN
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>>387635645
It's amazing that in both games the DLC Vault Hunters are so much better
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>>387597950
Funny thing, my nephew and i just booted up the second one and that is the first thing I noticed
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>>387605067
Burch is fired, and the guy that wrote BL1 (think he voices Scooter) is writing BL3.
So the tone should be closer to BL1 at the very least.
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>>387636603
>Voices

Anyway, I hope they get more of the tales people in.
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>>387597950
>BL thread
>actual quality discussions
>only two faggots having a back and forth pissing contest about le reddit instead of the entire thread being memes

I'm so proud of you guys

I swear these people are the same that post cuck memes in AVGN threads and obsess over Mikes dick
>>
>>387636734
It's almost like there are people on /v/ who actually like games
>>
Hello randy
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>>387638754
Not everything Borderlands is shilling
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