Can we talk about how objectively fantastic this game is? It's

Hats

>>387571008
If it was perfect Overwatch wouldn't exist and people would still play your shit game.

The update isn't going to be until October at least

>>387571008

Id rather we talk about how the silhouette taste has been taken as too literal an absolute as design goes

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>>387571096
>Overwatch

lower the graphics pls. i can't see the particle effects of my $420 hat in 144fps

>>387571008
>Not a single class could be added, or removed
How about ONE class with actual depth instead of nine that play like Baby's first FPS?
>All of the weapons and classes were so good
What's the point of good weapons if you can only use them under certain classes? Everyone should have those weapons.
>The Artstyle and visual design is really distinct and superb
No it is not. It's cartoony, and cartoony graphics drawn in children. See Overwatch.
>Even the music, sound effects, and voice acting are god tier
That's because it's Valve. I can remember every sound file from Left 4 Dead 2 like the back of my head.
>It takes everything essential,
you mean it steals ideas from other genres and dilutes the FPS waters?
>and perfects it
Uh, no. We will never get a perfect and pure FPS because most FPS design has gone on a massive tangent thanks to this game.

Fuck you. You ruined first person shooters.

>>387571492
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>>387571492
>cartoony graphics drawn in children.
what

>>387571008
Hasn't been that way in ages

>>387571492
(you)

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>>387571492

>>387571728
>>387571771
>>387571943
"hero shooters", "class-based shooters", "team-role shooters" and the like are cancerous and will no doubt lead to the 2nd crash of the video game market. Do your due diligence to gaming by not supporting such practices.

>>387571008
>Not a single class could be added, or removed
You could get rid of Pyro and nothing would happen

The aiming in source engine games always feels really fucking bad.

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>>387572108
t. double digit iq

>>387572101
>>387571943
>implying he's wrong
it's shit. the entire genre needs to be gassed.

>>387572239
Don't you understand?!?! I'm trying to save your fucking hobby and all you're doing is pissing on it! What has possessed with you?

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>Hats.
>Free2Play.
>MLP.
>Crates.
>Balance problems.
>Forced Matchmaking killing other prophunt, saxton, zombie servers etc.

What has consistently damaged TF2 the most?

>>387572108
Im deeply sorry your favorite variety of shooter isnt popular at the moment. That must be hard to deal with

>>387572512
TF2 / Overwatch / League of Legends / DOTA 2 are the KFC of gaming.

>>387571008
TF2 was fantastic until they flooded it with terrible, unfitting hats and garish paint colors.

If they removed those, it'd be fine. The hats like the new hairdoos, fitting clothing, and robot gear is good stuff that would've kept the game being respectable. Shit like the banana hat, towering pillar, unicorn horn, and many of the promo items made the game impossible to appreciate anymore.

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>>387571096
>take a game
>dumb it down for casual babbies
>change the interesting endearing characters and make them generic one-dimensional waifu bait or typical edgy coolguys
>character interaction is all friendly happy-go-lucky circlejerking or super watered down shit talking because dialogue like the domination lines in TF2 would be too toxic

>>387572420
Gabe

You were correct when it was new. The addition of cosmetics and new weapons ruined it.

>>387571187
In a multiplayer game it is absolutely essential to stick to it
In terms of quality of design it's subjective based on the goal of the character's design

>All the weapons and classes are so good.
Weapons WERE good. Anything that doesn't belong to Soldier was nerfed and everything already bad was made useless.

>>387571492
bait

How about the fact that the spy class LITERALLY doesn't work?
>Is this you?
>No
>Okay *blamblamblam*

>>387573445
You aren't supposed to purposely run into your enemies or attract their attention. You have the cloak for a reason. You're supposed to play inconspicuously and ambush your opponents.

>>387572672
>Change
How did they change anything? Weren't they always generic as fuck?

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=31834

>>387571492
>t. Guy who pretends to play Deathmatch games

>>387574152
you lack reading comprehension

>>387571008
Was. It WAS objectively fantastic. It hasn't been for many years. First two years on TF2 were unforgettable times for me. Then it became something else.

>>387574435
what a gay