does the saturn have ANY good games?

does the pope shit in the woods?

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>>387568413
/thread

>>387568361
NiGHTS

>>387568413
I don't know. That's a good question. Do you think maybe one of them has just decided to drop a deuce out there for a giggle? Like haha I bet one of them has haha

>>387568361
if you like arcade games, absolutely

>>387568361
Sonic X-treme was a fantastic conversion from 2D to 3D that saved the Saturn from mediocrity.

>>387568361
>in b4 muh panzer dragoon
No
Only neohipsters like Saturn games. They were literally inferior to PS1 and N64 in every way. Besides at that time, the good Sega games were in the arcades not in that console

Also that console is a clusterfuck hardware-wise

>>387568439
Why do games like this exist? If you had money to but this shit, why not just buy an actual porno? Now a days, it's even worse because you can just get porn for free

Roommate

>>387568607
>They were literally inferior to PS1 and N64 in every way.
What a retarded post.
Saturn hardware was way better at rendering and displaying 2D graphics far closer to arcade quality than either PS1 and Nintendo, with the sole exception being Symphony of the Night, which is the exception that proves the rule: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PxGM1np2hU
Literally every other 2D game is better on Saturn than PS1

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>>387568361

>>387568607
panzer dragoon is amazing, though, way better than starfox 64

>>387568589
Do any good demos of Sonic X-Treme even exist on the internet? The only one I remember was one some guy on Sonic Retro pulled out

>>387568803
what is this? Just a list of the saturn's entire fucking library?

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>>387568361
It has plenty of good games mostly 2D and arcade ports though, the original 3D games (for the most part) didn't quite stack up to what the ps1 and N64 could do though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExaAYIKsDBI
this, this right here was the single moment that marked segas downfall. people may say it was the 32x or sega cd but honestly, they still had a solid fanbase after that debacle. theres a rumor that tom k was in the audience and as soon as he said 299 tom k said oh shit

>>387568978
Is difficult to live with mental retardation?
Can you wipe your own ass or you need help?

>>387568980
>Burning Rangers
TO THE BRAND NEW SKY WE DIVE

>>387568978
no, it doesn't have elevator action returns or salamander deluxe pack plus.

>>387569070
is it difficult to live with out a sense of humor?

Wonder how much an out of the box Saturn goes for

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>>387568917
The E3 demo was found along with 2 Saturn port prototypes.

>>387569341
Nigger calm down. It was a joke

is the flashcart a thing yet?

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>>387568980
>Burning Rangers is never mentioned anywhere ever again until Project X Zone 2 and it's only a single area with just the instrumental theme playing and the characters are no where in sight

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>>387569504
>it wasn't even a particularly good instrumental at that

>>387569504
>what is PSO
even had some of fumie kumatani's sick tunes

>>387568361
some good shit is
>Panzer Dragoon (all of them)
>Clockwork Knight
>Bulk Slash (this game is fucking brilliant)
>Gungriffon
>most of the Model 2 arcade ports are decent (most are also obsolete at this point), the only particularly bad one that comes to mind is Sega Touring Car Championship
>Gundam Blue Destiny games
>NiGHTS
>Psychic Killer Taromaru (burn a copy, you're never getting an original disc of this)

and some other shit of note is
>Hyper Duel (burn a copy, Saturn version has an exclusive arrange mode that's better than the original)
>Galactic Attack (you can play it in MAME, but IIRC some shit still isn't right, like there's one boss attack that isn't visible)
>Burning Rangers (it's not amazing, but it's fun and the graphics are fairly impressive, it's short as hell)
>the original Wipeout (it's 20fps, but has way better collisions and handling than on PS1, along with a handful of different songs)
>Sonic R (game's a bit naff, but the graphics are quite impressive for '97, and I think it's still pretty fun despite being slippery as all fucking hell)

there's other shit that's worth playing that I'm missing
post too long

>>387568846
PD is a more stylish game by far.
The original is definitely not better than SF64, but Zwei might be a good contender.

>>387568607
you're such a faggot lol

>>387568796
Saturn has like three advantages, period:
>background hardware (on the PS1, you have to do do that shit manually with polygons, although the PS1's sky-high fillrate makes it a relative non issue to cover the screen with 32x32 polygon tiles, the real issue is that you burn through VRAM faster)
>more VRAM (1.5MB vs 1MB on PS1 -- but the Saturn's 512k splits between backgrounds, sprites, and the framebuffer suck, PS1 uses a unified model so none of the video memory goes wasted)
>cartridge RAM expansion

>>387569024
been saying this for years
this shit hurt Sega more than anything else, the early launch and Sony's immediate response

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>>387568361
bulk slash
legend of oasis
dodonpachi
virtual-on
x-men children of the atom
clockwork knight
Robotica/Daedalus

>>387569746
is robotica actually worth playing
videos of it look kind of junky and samey

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>>387568803
You forgot something on your list.

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>>387569645
>tfw got in to Phantasy Star too late
This shouldn't be a problem if I decided to play PSO2 right?

>>387568439
you just know they're both hairy as fuck

>>387568803
why does this chart have *three* thunder forces but not a single raising shmup? and where's princess crown?

any body who says panzer dragoon and nights is goood has never played them. also the Atari jaguar is better then the Saturn. Sad but true

>>387569504
It had a pretty cool racetrack in Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed.

>>387570726
Never played Panzer but I agree on Nights. It;s boring as fuck and the bosses are shit

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>20 year old game is STILL the best dungeon crawler

What went so horribly wrong

it wasnt exclusive but i quite enjoyed Power Slave

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>>387568803
>No Dark Savior by the same team as Lunar and Landstalker
>No To~Ri~Co which is still one of the most heart breaking stories of loss and desire
That list is fucking shit.

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>>387570726
>any body who says panzer dragoon and nights is goood has never played them.
yeah fuck you, I love these games

>>387571010
timestamp

>>387570860
>loving the game
>get to Tower of Illusion
>reach fight against a Blader
>literally impossible to beat unless I waste hours grinding because the Multi-Heal spell is required to survive attacks
Fuck that shit

>>387568512
Underrated post

>>387568361
Personal faves:
- Sakura Taisen 1 & 2
- Virtua Fighters 2
- Nights
- Sonic Jam (fuck you, it's great)
- Golden Axe: The Duel
- Panzer Dragoon
- Best version of Symphony of the Night
And a plethora of weeb shit I love.

>>387570178
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

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>>387571105

>>387568803
Mednafen is the superior option to emulate it now.

>>387571272
I never ground in that game and I rolled through it. Maybe you just suck.

>>387570058
>>387570289
>>387570975
>>387571695

I think that image is from 2009.

>>387571678
now show your feet

Albert Odyssey
Bulk Slash
Dragon Force
Dungeons & Dragons
Fighters Megamix
Guardian Heroes
Panzer Dragoon Series
Radiant Silvergun
Solar Eclipse
Virtual On

>>387571695
I tried it but the games run slow.
Do you need a best of a computer run it? or just need to turn certain things on and off?

>>387568803
>Deep Fear listed as a Jap exclusive

>>387571695
>not SSF

>>387571859
works on my machine :)

>>387569024
>muh 299
That was actually just the console, if you wanted a memory card and controller it cost $375, the Saturn cost $399 with memory card and controller so really, it was just a big marketing scam.

>>387571695
If only it could support save states.

>>387568361
Guardian Heroes was my fucking game in 96-97. Even played it a lot in 98-00s. Unfortunately the Saturn got really poor support and never got a good Sonic game. A great 2D Sonic alone could have made the console worth buying.

>>387572476
>savescumming

git gud faggot

>>387570726
>any body who says panzer dragoon and nights is goood has never played them

fuck you nigga nights is the best game ever made

>>387569142
FLY HIGHHHH WITH GRACE AND PRIDE

>>387570726
have your (You)

anyone who says anything good about the Jag has never played one
NiGHTS is neat, but initially obtuse as fuck. Dunno why Sega expected it to really be the sort of mascot for the machine.
anyone talking shit about Panzer Dragoon is retarded, first one is a very solid 3D rail shooter, second one expands on that with better stages and better graphics and a sort of "upgrade" system, it's great

can't say anything about Saga because I've never played it

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>>387568715
>Why do games like this exist?
The 90's were a time of experimentation and rapid technical advancement. We had
>ceedee roms
>mult-i-media
>FMV
>interactivity
>three deeeeeeeee
Pile all that into a single package and a 90's nerd would have jizzed his pants just reading the back of the box. Of course these games weren't fun, but you had to have been there to really understand. A lot of stuff we bitch about for not being good enough today wielded massive gravitas for just being there.

>>387568361
I can understand that some people have different opinions on games available on Saturn but saying that it has "no games" is a just lie.
I have around 30 games for both Saturn and Dreamcast, similar amount to any other console I own.
Here are some games I recommend:
-Princess Crown
-Panzer Dragoon Series
-Nights into Dreams, Christmas Nights
-Shin Megami Tensei Devil Summoners 1 and 2 (Soul Hackers)
-Shutokou Batlle 97
-Dead or Alive
-King Of Fighters 98
-Any Capcom fighting game on Saturn
-Virtua Fighter 2 and Fighters Megamix
-Marica
-Sakura Taisen 1 and 2
-Dragon Force
-Astal
-Burning Rangers
-Any good PC-98 or PC-Engine game remade for Saturn

>>387568715
Those were usually arcade ports.
And just like you had some arcade title like House of the Dead with a story you could also play a Mahjong game with a story of being a Mahjong Princess and undressing other girls so they could join you in defeating Satan.

>>387573657
Saga is a very different game but it's a really great and varied RPG, only real downside was that the story was short and that the dungeon before final fight could have been better.
Also as for me it could have had better final boss fight song, it just doesn't compare for what they produced for PD1 and 2.

>>387574571
The problem is that Saturn got left in the dust by N64 and most definitely by PS1. On top of being left in the dust sales wise the competitors also had much better games and much more iconic classics to boot.

I had all three consoles and I even liked all 3 of them but it is clear at least if you were an American that Saturn just didn't have the same support of the other two so it ended up being a fairly distant third place. Basically it is easier to just blame Sega since they are the biggest reason Saturn failed anyways. Saturn was essentially the Wii U of the time period, N64 was a better Xbone and PS1 was well...you know.

>>387575557
Good thing I'm not American then, in my country N64 failed pretty hard, Saturn did pretty well and Sony won.
Saturn died early and half of it's library was ported to PS1 while the rest of arcade ports were ported later only on PS1 since it was a newer console.
But nowadays you are not limited by region lock and pretty much all of those 3 consoles have great games to play, but nothing compares to the ass loads of games that PS1 and PS2 got.

>>387569024
It's astounding how Sega had such a huge market share in the west with the Mega Drive and they managed to fuck it all up.

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How is Saturn emulation?

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>>387569504
Excuse me but it's the best level in pic related you faggot.
>B-B-B-BURNING RANGERS GO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctdUDUgxIqs

>>387576279
SSF is really good but you gotta mount the games

>>387576279
shit but you can play most games beginning to end

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>>387576421
>>387576487

>>387576279
I'd like to know this as well also what became of the modding and emulation scene after this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOyfZex7B3E

>>387568413
No, I assume he has a bathroom.

>>387576562
Don't listen to >>387576487
SSF is widely regarded as a very good saturn emulator. It plays 80% of the Saturn's library with no issues.

>>387568796
>better at rendering and displaying 2D graphics
Except for its reliance on dithering and flickering to imitate transparencies. Ouch!

>>387576279
fairly poor as of now if my knowledge isnt out of date

>>387576487
>>387576667
What the fuck? Are you guys in 2007 or something? Just look up SSF

>>387576634
They are playable but there are plenty of issues and visual glitches, it's not even close to being accurate
if you're serious about saturn games you're better off buying a real one

>>387575998
N64 was the much better console no contest. I replied to the thread earlier saying how my favorite game for the Saturn was Guardian Heroes but it is just a sad fact that the Saturn pretty much bombed everywhere else besides Japan where it sold best. Again it is just a fact that Sega was dropping the ball hard after the Genesis. This is a company that beat Nintendo before Sony and even Microsoft started spanking them. I hate to say it but considering what I read it really is for the best that Sega stopped making consoles with the incompetence they had then. It would have really helped a lot for them if they also didn't make a difficult to develop for console. Pissing off retailers wasn't a smart move either.

Just so much incompetence with them that reading about it here and watching videos so many years later really put things in perspective for me. As incompetent as /v/ likes to say Microsoft and Nintendo are they are still lightyears better than 90s Sega.

And honestly I would have loved to have seen Saturn actually compete. It just was never meant to be.

burning rangers
parodius
Astal
Clockwork Knight
nights into dreams
Virtua Fighter
Daytona
the Mr. Bones meme originated from Saturn
Arcade perfect version of Afterburner
Radiant Silvergun

>>387576793
compatibility list for American games as of July
http://www.segasaturn.org/USA%20update.htm
Looks like most of them play without any minor issues

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>>387576921
>Mr. Bones meme originated from Saturn
nah m8 that's roller coaster tycoon.

>>387576279
extremely game dependent.

>>387572231
yeah just like how the ps3 costed $599 and included all this shit that the 360 didnt have but people still jumped ship to the 360 anyways

>>387577035
wtf is this shit??? the dragon doesnt even grab the guy,, wtf???

>>387577035
Better then PS2 emulation

>>387568361
Yes. Heaps.
>>387568803
Go home reddit.
>>387570289
Charts are always shite.
>>387571695
Not yet but it's getting there.
>>387576279
Good since about 2005

>>387576921
didn't mean to post yet...
There's a sonic Xtreme ROM available,
Panzer Dragoon 1 and 2, and Saga.
Saga in particular is really impressive for a 1997 RPG and could have easily competed with FF7 if Saturn was more successful in America.
Saturn Bomberman is the best bomberman game hands down.
SCUD is interesting,
Magic knight Rayerth is an interesting action RPG,
Blazing Dragons is an awesome point and click game, but also available on PS1.
There's more I can't think of now, but it's totally worth it to get your hands on a saturn and hardmod it. It's not that difficult, I had a lot of fun doing it, and I've since had a lot of fun with its games. If you're like me, you were too poor to get a Saturn but always wanted one, then you should definitely get one.
>>387577098
Obviously, but the guy obviously got the name from the Saturn game.

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>>387577167
t. shit PC

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>>387577389

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>>387577389
>this
>fucking
>kid

>>387577389
It's not a matter of a shit or good PC, sure you can post the most popular PS2 game I already played, but any obscure game I haven't played on my PS2 to check them out? Bugged as hell or sometimes unplayable.
Even some more popular games like Yakuza have many graphical problems that instead of playing the game you literally sit and tweak the setting to make it look good.
Don't even get me on the sound problems in some games.

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>>387577619

>>387571335
hairy pussy is a gift from God

>>387576652
It's not that simple.
Saturn DO support transparencies but...

>>387576652
>Except for its reliance on dithering and flickering to imitate transparencies.
shut up and watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_OchOV_WDg

>>387568796
Wrong.

PS1 was quite capable of handling 2d games. The only way for SegaSaturn to beat PS1 is to add ram to the system 1, 2 then 4 meg ram to be precise.

every 5th gen thread turns into a hardware discussion, why?

>>387578204
It was, but still the PS1 versions were worse, often they had less frames for sprites and frame rate problems at the same time and it was compared to default Sega Saturn because every game runs without the additional RAM, there are only very few games that actually support 4mb RAM like KoF 97 if I remember correct but because of it those ports are arcade perfect when PS1 was far from that.

>>387578417
Why not? People are both discussing the games and hardware, you have many recommendations for games and some hardware talk which might be interesting to some.

>>387576758
>SSF

Use Mednafen

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>>387576652
V
D
P
2

>implying meshes don't look cool

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>>387568361
>Western Library Only
Not very many and the good ones are some of the most expensive games in existence.

>Including the Japanese Library
Arguably better than the PS1 in terms of quantity of good games

>>387578417
It was an era where the hardware dictated the games instead of being just "same shit but with less resolution and shadow quality" as it is now.
Just to put things in perspective, VDP2 could pull off mode7 like planes on the saturn, and did it cost free, specially if compared to drawing the whole thing with actual triangles, so many games used this mode 7 plane to deliver a great performance... as long the game could have flat terrain.

>>387578691
>Arguably better than the PS1 in terms of quantity of good games
I love the Saturn to death but this is an exaggeration, the JP PS1 library is unbelievable. You'd have a much better case against the N64.

>>387578691
>Arguably better than the PS1 in terms of quantity of good games
dont kid yourself, most of them were shit like >>387568439

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>>387568529
>Daytona USA

>>387568361
Saturn has NiGHTS. This instantly made it superior to the PS1

>>387578809
Yeah and PS1 had the same games but censored.

>>387578950
name me 500 good saturn exclusive japanese exclusive games

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>tfw Sonic X-treme will come out within out lifetime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFaLo6XWmWo

>>387579456
cant wait for it to come out so people can say its shit

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>SEGA SATURN HAZ NO GAEMS XD
>Wii U has an amazing library of games :^)
Real talk. I seriously hope no one thinks this way.
I know you're out there, motherfucker.

Did anyone play dragon force 2?
for some reason I just did not like it when compared to dragon force. Felt very unpolished when I played it

>>387579542
SS had 1056 games released in it's life time
Wii U has 743 games released currently

What games someone prefer is just their opinion however but I hope Switch will get some more games then Wii U

>>387579542
if i had to pick one i would go with the wii u because the saturn games are too expensive and modding seems like a pain in the ass

>>387568803
>virtua cop
Fucking hell that was my shit

>>387579847
Not true, you literally need a cartridge and can play the entire library or.... just emulate.
It's not like Saturn has cheap games in Japan or you could have bough some of the games for cheap for around 12 years.

>>387580019
>you literally need a cartridge
that just makes the console region free

>>387578869
CCE is a lot better than that awful launch port, as long you understand you have to keep the stick up to act like a wheel of sorts.

>>387580056
No ,Action Replay 4M Plus makes the games region free.
You can make any SS cartridge to boot pirated copies of the game since 2 years ago and there is some guy working on a mod to load games from SD card.

>>387569741

I like your choices. The main issue is the fucking pricetag of many of those.

If you know Japanese, you can save some cash and import them since they are way cheaper in Japan.

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>>387579542
>WiiU, Vita, Dreamcast, and Gamecube are my favorite consoles of all time
>About to try Saturn Emulation all tomorrow
We're about to find out aren't we?

>>387580019
>or you could have bough some of the games for cheap for around 12 years
Doesn't really do me a lot of good anon

>>387580543

NiGHTS is legit one of my favorite games that gen. Have fun.

>>387580620
I've played that on Steam, I didn't beat it but it's neat and I'll go back to it

>>387568607
>Only neohipsters like Saturn games.
I guess I've been a neohipster for over 20 years then.

>>387568361
NiGHTS and the Devil Summoner games are easily some of my favorite games of all time

>>387581351
Shame they never made a good port of Devil Summoner, PSP version had shitty MIDI music and surprisingly worse graphics.
At least it runs at 60 fps and has some more content and faster battles, shame they didn't remade it for 3DS before Soul Hackers.

>>387579846
>currently
So, in its life time then?

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>>387570178

>>387568803
>Guardian Heroes
Fuck that game was amazing. The port to 360 felt off, but I can't exactly figure out why it did.

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Elevator Action Returns
Battle Garegga
Radiant Silvergun
House of the Dead
Sonic Jam
Psychic Killer
Assault Suit Leynos 2
SMT Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
Virtual On
Sega Rally
Daytona USA
Dragon Force
Guardian Heroes
Princess Crown
Sexy Parodius
Galactic Attack
Dodonpachi
Saturn Bomberman
Saturn Bomberman Fight
Bomberman Wars
Sanik 3D Blast
Thunder Force V

No. No good games. :')

Are Sonic Jam and 3D Blast on the Saturn the definitive way to play those games?

>>387585853
Sonic Jam's a solid collection of the original trilogy if you don't already have it, but 3D Blast has a totally different soundtrack from the Genesis version. I personally like the Saturn version's music more, it's done by the same guy who composed Sonic R's soundtrack and has a similar feeling to that.
Here's a comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8bXKdHpdfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edrY1Lw1xLE

>>387569341
>posted the pretending to be retarded image
how is it not obvious he was joking

everyone knows the Saturn had a troubled selection of games in the US, did he offend you because it was your favorite console as a kid or something?

>>387570860
This is the game the convinced me I'd love getting into more DRPGs.

It's also the game that made it very clear that most other DRPGs are complete trash.

>>387577757
This.
Women nowadays need to be hairy again.

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>>387568803

>Exhumed

Given in the here and now Powerslave EX is a thing nobody should ever play the saturn version.

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>>387568361
You're goddamn right it did.

Is sega Saturn worth getting in our 2017 year?

>>387588495

Yes if you speak Japanese because the best game on it The one I posted, Sakura Taisen is NTSC-J only. And will never get a localization ;_;

>>387588558
You know Japanese? How long did it take you to learn it?

>>387588558
Yeah I know Japanese, also isn't Sakura taisen on PC?

>>387588495
depends on what kinds of games you like and how much you're willing to spend on retro games

>>387588407
>>387588558
It's better to play ST on Dreamcast since all the games from the series were released on it and support VGA with save import feature.

>>387588594

Fuck no, I'm not that patient man. I had to use an old ass GameFAQS guide from a guy who does. I only know it to the extreme basic level (Greetings, exclamations, I recognize maybe 1/5 of the kana). I tried several times but I always asked myself "Why am I learning the language of a country that will ostracize me, and one that has no practical use outside of my weebshit?"
>>387588630
It is but those versions are so goddamn hard to find that you're better off emulating it. I recommend the PSP port that comes with Sakura Taisen 2.
>>387588675
Yeah, Dreamcast port is also good. I'd personally play 1/2 on PSP then 3/4 on Dreamcast, 5 is the one that got localized so play it on Wii or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bip_UbrRFEM

This was kinda fun

>>387576279
Mednafen is your best bet.

>>387588696
>Why am I learning the language of a country that will ostracize me
I think this sometimes too, but I have so many fucking Japanese games I want to play that it'll kind of make it worth it. I'm autistic have no life and no friends so I have nothing to lose haha

>>387588930
I'm not (that) autistic, I have friends and a life but tons of free time. Yeah, I could spend it learning to program and learning French/Japanese, but nah I just shitpost and listen to shoegaze.

>>387588636
Just looked it up and almost all of the good Saturn games seems to be going for 80 dollars a piece. Not sure if that's worth it. May just end up emulating it instead.

>>387588696
PSP port would definitely be nice. I'll check it out.

>>387568361
It has the best arcade ports, shoot em ups and fighting games of its era

>>387589092
It's playing fine so far. The text renders weird sometimes but that doesn't matter because I don't speak moon anyway.