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I liked this game. What say you?

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I liked this game. What say you?
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>>387561727
Meh, disappointing as hell
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>>387561727
Liked it alot.
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>>387561727
Me too, don't take /v/ too seriously.
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>>387561727
I loved it, but I don't love XV-kun
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>>387561727
I want it on the pc so I can spend more money on it
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>>387561727
I like the environment and somewhat like the combat. Loved the road trip aspect but I loath the story and the amount of DLC.
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>>387561727
bait
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It was fine but holy shit that story was a clusterfuck
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It was worse than Xenoblade X in every way
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>>387561727
fuck no. worst game of 2016 and i mean that in non-bait way
the story is a fucking awful mess. the combat is braindead. a bunch of features dont feel polished or fleshed out at all. the entire game feels rushed, and i hate playing games that feel rushed especially when they are supposed to include lots of stuff. side quests suck. the music is not memorable. the characters arent written well.
i cant think of a single think i like about this game other than the graphics/animation. waste of my money.
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>the only defense fanboys have for this game is "fuck you i liked it"
>meanwhile the people who didn't like it always have legitimate and damning criticisms

really gets my noggin joggin'
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>>387564289
I dont even know if the prospect of XVI is exciting anymore. They'll just pull another Universe shit and strip the game to it's bare bones.
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Final Fantasy XV is one of the worst games I've had the displeasure of playing.
>Story presentation is the worst it's ever been: In order to get the full story you need to watch an anime and a movie and even then it's still not complete with most events happening off screen in the linear part which is when the narrative is supposed to improve
>Open world was a mistake and I mean that 100%, every quest is a fetch quest of the nth degree with zero substance in any of them and outside of one or two dungeons there is nothing interesting to find in the world
>Combat is riddled with problems such as inconsistent hit stun properties, no launch moves, enemies don't proper telegraph moves (Tabata said this was to add to realism) and the camera getting hung up on things makes combat a mess
>Additionally it's impossible to die because you are given a buffer zone when your health reaches 0 for you to pop a potion and you are going to have a lot of these
>Contrived moments like Prompto being an MT having zero relevance to anything
>Car is entirely on rails and is a glorified loading screen
>Game is still getting essential content a year after its release
I could keep going, there is absolutely nothing redeeming about this game.
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my thoughts of XV:
Combat was lame, had potential but the game never motivated you to get really good at it
Shit cut out to be sold back as DLC
Shit happening off screen
Trying to get the player to care for minor as fuck characters (Luna & Jared)
Chapter 13 (this was before the big patch that allegedly made it better)
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>>387561727
>I liked this game.
it's a fine game

>What say you?
you are baiting all the spergs to speg out how it's the worse thing ever
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I thought it was fun, even though it doesn't feel like a FF game.
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>>387561727
It's a deeply flawed game that didn't know how to get from point A to point B, but man that ending hit all the right notes, especially with the throwback to all the road trip pictures you've taken. It doesn't excuse the game's issues, but I see and can appreciate what they were trying to do.
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>>387564952
>Story presentation
>you need to watch an anime and a movie

actually I liked that, the game doesn't cut you off every 10 minutes like FF XIII

>Open world was a mistake and
>I mean that 100%, every quest is a fetch quest

The game concentrates on what the game does best, is basically every quest is a monster to kill. But having played W3 I agree they could be more interesting

>>Combat is riddled with problems
nah it's fine.

>>387564952
>Additionally it's impossible to die
this is not dank souls

>>Contrived moments like Prompto being an MT having zero relevance to anything
ok ?

>>Car is entirely on rails and is a glorified loading screen
unironically a bad aspect of the game. especially since the game doesn't give you chocobos right away.

>>Game is still getting essential content a year after its release
not really. but I would love a XV-2 focused on Ardyn's past
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>>387561727
>liking a game where the combat is literally hold down O

I know we all like different tastes but come to fuck on how can anyone like this shit. Also Square stop with all of these Final Fantasy 15: A New Empire ads no one cares about your shit mobile game.
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>>387565882
thanks for proving >>387564318 right
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>>387561727

I liked it, too. Is it my favorite? Not by a long shot. Is the story weak and does it feel rushed in some ways? Yeah. But, it's solid. It's a satisfying time sink.
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>>387566035
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>>387566201
ew
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>>387566201
>walk up like a fucking retard when the attack is clearly being telegraphed

6/10 I replied
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>>387566201
I've never seen that game over screen before
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>>387566043
>thanks for proving >>387564318 right

not really. the only point were I do say "fuck you i liked it" is the battle system and that's an empty discussion unless we compare how good we both are at the game. having maxed out the characters and right now playing only for the timed events I could claim I have a bit of authority and the points he makes are random. I could say "gameplay is bad because it's not DMC3". no launch move is silly, it's a bit of a give he hasn't played the game.
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>>387566416
>no launch move is silly
How is not having a launch move not a valid complaint when this game tries to be based around aerial combat and is taking influence from Kingdom Hearts when it has fucking launch moves?

Only other person I've seen defend that is Barry.
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>>387566386
>>387566396
>'Yeah dude, just hold O!'
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>>387566416
He's completely right though. You probably don't know what it means to launch an enemy in the first place.

>gameplay is bad because it's not DMC3
I mean, you basically said the game is good because it's not FF13 or DaS. I'll add that to the list of nonarguments.
>a-at least it's not FF13
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>>387566329
>>387566386
>>387566396
it's the same guy that spams that webm (and others) to "defend" XV's combat when someone else brings up the Hold O combat as a legitimate complaint against XV

It's him sucking on purpose to prove a point.

see:
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/MWtG5zt-kENudnRdx_94_g/

look at how many times it's spammed to defend this mess of a combat system. All with the same fucking filename

same with >>387566719
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/FWvR8o4x1RuRhzqZvvEvMQ/
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What happened to xv-kun anyway? Another b&?
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>>387566558
>How is not having a launch move not a valid complaint

Honestly I've never even thought about that, it seems as random as saying it's a valid complain that the game doesn't let you grab enemies like Dragons Dogma.

What I would call a valid complain is the few pylons and high places for noctis to warp like he does during the Infrit fight.

>is taking influence from Kingdom Hearts
Bro "hold O" and KH influence is a bit of a give you haven't played the game.
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>>387566201
I was just playing the game last night and you are holding O for 75% of an engagement. Whether you're air-stepping or on the ground, you're holding O either way. Other than that you are holding Square and warping to warp point s to replenish MP. I actually forgot how easy this game was. I completed the myrwood dungeon in like 3 minutes. It's just a short hallway with a boss at the end. It's needless to say, but i dont like the combat. There's just no challenge when you can dodge everything and pretty much never die due to a broken healing system. One thing I absolutely despise is how unresponsive it is. There are times when you swear to god that you input a command like, phase, but it just doesnt register. Fucking annoying.
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>>387566914
nope, he's in this thread. See
>>387566719
>>387566201

who else posts webms of someone sucking on purpose in XV to prove a point?
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>>387566914
he's in this thread right now idiot
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>>387566914
He's in other comment sections like Gematsu and Siliconera. I see him all the time whenever there's XV news
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>>387566987
Where the fuck did I even mention 'Hold O'? The answer is nowhere and launchers are integral to this sort of combat especially when the hitstun is so awful.
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>>387566842
>It's him sucking on purpose to prove a point.

bro absolutely serious question, I don't to shit post or defend the game: HAVE YOU PLAYED THE GAME ?
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>>387567132
everyone in this thread except the first few posters has played this fucking game
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>>387567119
>Where the fuck did I even mention 'Hold O'?

you didn't It's a strawman. He also brought up KH out of the blue.

>>387567132
>HAVE YOU PLAYED THE GAME ?
Yes I have (even got the Platinum) but any time I try to post proof, you dismiss it as "got it off of google" "got the pic from a friend" "used the archive"
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I have nothing to say except that I enjoyed it
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Are these threads only made to bait you know who?
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>>387567472
Yes.
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>>387567119
>Where the fuck did I even mention 'Hold O'?

maybe it wasn't you but it's a friendly heads up: it's one of the give aways you are just shitposting. your webm is actually a good example of a button smasher. I don't know what you are trying to say with that.

>>387567294
>He also brought up KH out of the blue.

no I didn't
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>mfw XVfags will never EVER have good threads
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>>387567528
>I don't know what you are trying to say with that.
That there is no no hit stun in this game meaning launchers are pretty necessary so you can put the enemy in a state where you can actual play around with them.

You are familiar with action games somewhat I hope.
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>>387567119
this is how an average fight goes in FFXV
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Good. Needed more story time though. And better magic.
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/v/ contrarians will never be happy
they will never be kissed, know love, or have gfs

what a sad existence for /v/ contrarians who hate fun games
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Would have been good if they actually finished the world.
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How's the Multiplayer Co-op?

>>387567626
I've seen several good XV threads before. It really only goes to shit when XV-kun enters. Even the people who liked the game dislike him.
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Why are the end game dungeons so crappy? Im thinking about not doing the rest of them if theyre all just the same shitty cave.
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>>387561727
i watched a friend play it, and i feel no urge to personally play it
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>>387567687
The magic is the best it's ever been in the series. It now has a massive environmental impact which can lead to creative uses during combat and the way crafting works leads to tons of variety since fusing different items will lead to different effects when used.
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>>387567626
>>mfw XVfags will never EVER have good threads

I don't know if fellow anon is the same anon already baiting me with "aerial assault" stuff but you are so right. I can guarantee most people here have not played the game. And the thing is I'm so fucking good at this game, I cleared Costlemark Tower at level 45. I fucking spent EVERYTHING, one of the best battles in any games ever.

>>387567472
>Are these threads only made to bait you know who?

I keep hearing about this xv-kun but never actually seen a thread with him. hashtag summerfag problems.
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>>387567943
scroll up
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>>387567920
abandon thread
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>>387567764
But XV is the antithesis of fun. Every system is so cumbersome. The off-road Regalia was a dire necessity to the game and was added too little too late. I hated only being able to accept one quest at a time and endure painfully long loading screens, to then finally traverse LARGE empty fields with abandoned shacks and barns to create the illusion that this game has exploration.
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>>387568095
Even the UI is incredibly cumbersome to use, you can't fast travel from the map you have to access an entirely new menu through the car to do that the only things you can do from the map screen are set markers and get more information. How the actual fuck was that approved?
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>>387561727
I disagree.
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Combat was fine. Don't understand why people call it brain dead? Open world was fine. The road trip aspect made the game cozy, it got annoying at night time though. The only problem I have with this game is mainly the story. Not so much on specifically the story but how they present it in the game. People shit on this game so much on this site for some odd reason.
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>>387566914
Hopefully he killed himself.
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I started playing it about a week ago and honestly, I've enjoyed it so far. Of course it has many flaws but it's not the horrible pile of garbage /v/ makes it out to be.
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>>387568395
>Don't understand why people call it brain dead?
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>>387561727
IT WAS GARBAGE

and they have ruined the ff7 remake as well
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>>387568502
Chapter 9, that's all i'll say
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Defend this.
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>>387568571
>ruined a game that hasn't even come out yet
nani?
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>>387568314
You disagree that I liked FFXV? My opinion isn't really up for debate, friendo.
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I'll wait for them to finish it before I start it
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>>387562620
This, I liked it but I always jump on the hate train whenever he pops up.
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>>387565882
>nah it's fine.
It's utter shit. KH1 was fucking better balanced, and that's saying something.
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>>387566416
>unless we compare how good we both are at the game
That has nothing to do with judging a combat system.

>having maxed out the characters and right now playing only for the timed events I could claim I have a bit of authority
Casuals play under maxed conditions because they need the crutch. Good players restrict themselves.
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>>387566987
>it seems as random as saying it's a valid complain that the game doesn't let you grab enemies like Dragons Dogma.
The game has a considerably number of aerial attacks a casual version of jump cancels to stay in the air. Having no launchers to is absolutely retarded.

Also, Dragon's Dogma lets you launch enemies.

>Bro "hold O" and KH influence is a bit of a give you haven't played the game.
Versus was KH in leather before Tabata got his old man hands on it.
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>>387567920
>The magic is the best it's ever been in the series.
>no buffs
>debuffs are purely tertiary
>paltry damage output compared to many past entries
>cooldowns over MP
>no Quick
>no Demi
>no way of insta killing without dealing with the RNG
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>>387567920
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad
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>>387566035
>Also Square stop with all of these Final Fantasy 15: A New Empire ads no one cares about your shit mobile game.
The game is complete shit, but the ads are better than just some video, even if they made them worse. Why did they make the tower defense impossible to lose?
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>>387566719
What were you thinking?
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>>387568395
>the garbage combat was fine
>the empty, pointless open world was fine
>the car wasting several real life minutes at a time was fine
>I only care about an aspect that has nothing to do with gameplay
No wonder the medium is dying.
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>>387561727
I enjoyed it. I've enjoyed the entire series to varying degrees.
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>>387573084
Name a final fantasy game where you don't just mash attack for 95+% of the game.
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>>387573235
Nocturne
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>>387573235
Rhythm Heaven

Check Mate, faggo
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>>387573274
Very clever.
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>>387573347
Another smart guy. We got some friggen wise guys over here. Take a hike you goons.
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>>387573274
But that's a devil may cry game
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>beat a Mario game way back when
>Congratulations, you rescued the princess!
>Beat FFXV in the present day
>You die, your girlfriend dies, your father dies, one of your best bros becomes permanently blind, oh and FUCK YOU
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>>387573235
Tactics.
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>>387573235
XII, you program the game to attack for you
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>>387564289

The OST is 10/10.
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>>387573504
It was trying too hard to be depressing to the point where it just became stale. Doesn't help that you have no attachment to Regis, Luna or even to your party to a certain extent.
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Honestly? It's kino
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>>387573552
Honestly all I did was attack in that game. Attack until you unlock knight, attack until you unlock monk etc etc. Attack or jump or heal.
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>>387573729
>Honestly all I did was attack in that game
Thanks for confirming you're retarded.
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>>387561727
I really, really hated it.
Not because the world, I liked the "modern" thing.
But that's not gameplay and not a story.
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>>387561727
I'll make my opinion once it's actually finished.
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>>387573830
Its story is objectively god tier though.
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>>387573823
My point is that you can attack your way through ever final fantasy. Yeah you can be some gay math nerd in FFT. But it's just as easy to make a dual wielding monk with blade grasp and punch the world to death.
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>>387561727
It's a fucking walking and driving sim.
The combat is also janky as fuck.
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>>387573902
No, story in a FF game with two lines of dialogue and "because reasons" is not cool.
Other FF do shit without sense all the time, but there was more content. FFXV is atrocious.
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>>387573984
>FFXV is atrocious.
I too like to regurgitate things other people say despite being demonstrably wrong.
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>>387573902
>Its story is objectively god tier though.
Read a fucking book.
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>>387573932
>My point is that you can attack your way through ever final fantasy.
Yes, where it is grossly inefficient compared to your other options. You are ignoring the fact other FF's had weapon mechanics built into their standard attacks that could vary so wildly it may as well have been an entirely different command, and that XV's shit combat doesn't stop at attack spam.

So like I said, you're retarded.
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>>387574086
The fuck is this supposed to prove.
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>>387574479
God tier gameplay.
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>>387574410
I'm just saying man for pretty much the entire series all you need to do is attack and heal.
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>>387574592
There wasn't anything remotely impressive about that clip, nor the one you just posted.
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>>387573902
Diversions and Fetch Quests: The Game

>our kingdom has been raided and they've taken the crystal, we need it back
>but wait we need the 13 royal arms if we are going to stand a chance getting the crystal back
>actually...nvm we don't need them lol
>what we need are the Astral's powers if we are going to get the crystal back
>we also kind of need this ring thing
>actually, hold that thought... we need mythril... go get mythril
>got the mythril? ok now back to the ring and astrals

And then sprinkled throughout this are melodramatic moments no one cares about like Jared dying, Luna dying, Regis dying. Then members of your party leave, get captured, get lost, and become DLCs. They come back and you're curious as to what happens to them but each time it's just brushed off because you have to pay to fucking see it. You also have stupid diversions like invading a base with the intent of capturing a Nif Commander, but he gets away, rendering the mission pointless. There are also these incredibly short, wasted sequences like helping kill daemons attacking the generator in Lestallum, fighting off Nifs on top of a train and warping between ships, and driving full speed through Gralea while having missiles hurled at you. These are the best sequences in the game and they don't last more than 5 minutes.

It seems like you always get hung up on a 3 minute scene around the campfire during a pretty terrible, unsatisfying ending.
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>>387574593
>I'm just saying man for pretty much the entire series all you need to do is attack and heal.
Yes, if you intend to play them like a retard. What does this have to do with XV's combat system being a dumpster fire.
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Loved the combat and world and just roaming around in my car and doing hunts/discovering hidden dungeons.

Main story was poorly executed, couldn't care less about it, and beyond the open world they clearly had no overall gameplan and let the game wallow in mediocrity.

What it got right, though, it excelled at, which for me was the world/combat/banter between party members.
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>>387574086
I will forever love this.
literally the clip that made me buy the game.

>>387574592
>God tier gameplay.

post youtubes. I want to see Koreans playing this game.
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>>387574712
>There are also these incredibly short, wasted sequences like helping kill daemons attacking the generator in Lestallum, fighting off Nifs on top of a train and warping between ships, and driving full speed through Gralea while having missiles hurled at you. These are the best sequences in the game and they don't last more than 5 minutes.
Hundred to one says they were scrapped together from old assets Nomura was working on.
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>>387574826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdHcyi13-A
>XV's combat has no combo potentia-
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>>387574745
>if you intend to play like a retard
The series is painfully easy, they don't give you much incentive to use other strategies.
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>>387574893
>combo video
>not a single combo in it
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>>387574745
Because the entire series is a joke. Hold attack in FF15 or hold attack in FF7. What's the difference?
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>>387574969
>Retard parrot
>Not a single argument in him
Stay triggered.
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I agree, OP. I liked it too. Of course after playing it I stopped liking it. The duscae demo was the only good part of the game. Traveling in the car from place to place on autopilot was boring as hell and the soundtracks werent unlocked from the beginning. Fighting 1 button spam with dodge. I really hope they don't use a similar style for FF7.
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>>387574898
>The series is painfully easy
And XV is stupid easy even by the series' own standard. Your incentive to use other strategies is they're more efficient and fun, or the game threw something like Weak Mode at you. But, again, what does any of that have to do with XV's combat being intrinsically garbage.
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>>387574893
best animeted shit I've even seen in a game ever.
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>>387575096
>TFW soundtrack is DLC for VII Remake
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>>387574997
>Because the entire series is a joke. Hold attack in FF15 or hold attack in FF7. What's the difference?
XV is an action RPG. VII is not. XV came almost two decades later when the series should have learned more. VII also had a lot more flavor and was better put together.
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>>387575170
Just kill me.jpg
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>>387575138
>And XV is stupid easy even by the series' own standard.
This right here. It is literally impossible to die in XV unless you're in the Type F Regalia.
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>>387575138
>And XV is stupid easy
post timed quest rankings
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>>387575013
>Not a single argument in him
This is a combo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oRPLruhSSk
Nothing in the video you linked to was. I don't why you posted that webm of single attacks hitting trash foes or what it's supposed to prove either.
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>>387575096
>Fighting 1 button spam with dodge

guys seriously. I am not defending the fucking game, but this is an obvious red flag you have NOT played the game. anon above was correct: we will never have a good XV thread because you spam nonsense.
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>>387575309
Are you implying any of them stand a chance at killing you?
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>>387575489
Refer to >>387568510
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>>387575621
FF has been a joke since the snes.
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>>387561727
>>Want made into a trilogy
>>Its original form was butchered so much it can't even be considered a work of tetsuya Nomura
>>I guessed who the bad guy was from literally the movie
>>Combat wasn't as fun as kh combat
>>You can't be with best girl Cindy
>>Everything got downgraded from the original shown content

Im sure there's more things I can't think of right now. How this game did well is obvious. Just like ff 13, it's ff. It can do no wrong. If the game hadn't broken so many promises i would have liked it. I blame things like jumping console generation so much and the wrong choices the top brass at square enix made. Nomura himself has talked about it hurts to see fans think he isn't working on kh 3 or taking a long time because of other projects when he himself has no say in the matter. He simply follows orders a D works with the hand he is dealt. All in all, fuck square enix, Nomura should just finish kh on its 3rd instalment and leave the company. No matter how I'd like for it to keep going I fear if what could happen.
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>>387575671
We've gone in a circle. I didn't say FF was hard, I said XV was easy even by the easy standards of the series, and it's combat is junk. Which part of that are you having trouble understanding.
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Is the multiplayer shit okay? Part of what turned me off is the normal sword was the only thing really worth using that wasn't a royal arm.

And then royal arms while interesting had that bullshit health cost to attack thing so wham did a combo, suddenly lost 3/4ths of my health to do it.
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>>387575621
>Are you implying any of them stand a chance at killing you?

bro , do you even know what I'm talking about ?

(yes, fiy timed quests can anally ravage you)

>>387575634
>Refer to

bro that's a meme. once again: I'm not pro, I'm not against. but that's a glorified inside joke
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>>387561727
people only hate it because it's half-ass release FF game i actually think this is great game its just need more content and more balace to make it complete and good news that they still trying to fix it, i dare to say when FF15 remastered is happening its will be GOTY for sure
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>>387575951
>bro , do you even know what I'm talking about ?
*pops one of the hundreds of healing items you can carry at any given time*
Yes.
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>>387575776
I guess I'm disputing the "by the standards of the series part".
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>>387576326
In XV death is an impossibility because when your health is depleted you are given a gracious amount of time where you can 'revive' yourself by restoring health, usually in the form of a potion, carry 99 potions and you are invincible for all intents and purposes.

When death is NEVER a possibility it does make combat kind of lame. XV is the first FF game where I got infinitely more game overs in the airship than I did in combat because I never died in combat but died within twenty seconds of entering the Type F.
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>>387576326
No other game in the series lets a character revive themself at death, grants a second lifebar, lets you amass as many quality healing items as trivially, or so heavily encourages item spam.
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>>387576510
>>387576573
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>>387575776
>I didn't say FF was hard

guys, I'm not here trying to be an ass but it would actually help if you said HOW MUCH you have actually played the game if at all. because you people keep repeating a couple of things that are just nonsense, one of them is how hard the game is: cRPGs in general don't have the same difficulty type as action games (like ninja gaiden) or even hybrids like Souls. cRPGs are essentially time management games. the faster, the more efficient you play, the stronger you get, the easier it gets. that's why the ULTIMATE challenge in the game is timed quests, quests that they fuckign TIME you. yes, you can technically just hold O in most common battles but that's not how you deal damage in the game. it's not efficient. you do minimal damage.


>>387576256
>*pops one of the hundreds of healing items you can carry at any given time*
>Yes.

obviously not. but as an example the game has the most expensive phoenix down items in the series. as I said above this is not ninja gaiden, cRPGs are about management. so this "difficulty" argument is pointless.
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I liked it. Better than 10,12, and 13.
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>>387576920
>it would actually help if you said HOW MUCH you have actually played the game
Beat it at Lv 1.

>one of them is how hard the game is
No said it was hard. Is English not your first language or something?

>cRPGs in general
This isn't a computer RPG. No FF ever was. This is an Action RPG, which should be more difficult, like Souls or Lv 1 Critical Mode KH2. They actually made it easier compared to its turn based brethren.

>cRPGs are essentially time management games
You are an idiot. Like all combat focused genres it is solely about using your options/resources intelligently. Action games add an element of skill as well. The timed quests are as big joke as anything else in the game, because it is impossible to die.

>you can technically just hold O in most common battles but that's not how you deal damage in the game.
I'll take Zwill Crossblades for 500, Alex.

>it's not efficient
No, your 'efficient' shit is all cooldown based and boring, which is also retarded.

>obviously not.
What are you talking about, you can use items in timed quests.

>but as an example the game has the most expensive phoenix down items in the series.
That also fully heal you and can be used by a character that's already dead. Not that you even need them with a second lifebar and dirt cheap invincibly used elixirs.

>as I said above this is not ninja gaiden
It isn't even Souls or KH1. It is a joke in terms of difficulty and basic design.

>so this "difficulty" argument is pointless.
Then why did you bring it up. You were the one who tried to justify the combat being garbage because the other games were easy, even though XV's is even easier and that's only part of why it's shit.
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>>387576510
>>387576573
That's fair, it's definitely easier. But I also don't think I ever died in a bunch of the other FFs. Snes was moderate, NES was hard, ps1 and onwards was jokesville.

FF is a series designed to be beaten by children and casual gamers. I don't really know what you were expecting.
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>>387577882
I think the other anon is over exaggerating a bit but it does take a bit out of the game when death is quite literally never a possibility, it seems to be an overcorrection when people complained about getting a Game Over in XIII if the party leader died because.
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>>387577659
>This isn't a computer RPG.

jesus christ bro, "character rpgs" as in games that you build your character, unlike rpgs that you build your story, akin to table top rpgs.

>>387577659
>You were the one who tried to justify the combat being garbage
No.

I'm outa here. seriously you people are retarded, but thanks to that one anon that posted the vids.
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>>387577985
Actually yeah I died more in FF13 than any other FF barring maybe 1 with all the stunned from full to dead shit in that game.
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>>387578075
Same, XIII was the one i died the most in. Also one of the few jrpgs that i actually had to use buffs/debuffs in.
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>>387578001
>character rpgs
No one uses that term.

>as in games that you build your character
That's like 90% of them nowadays, and XV offers less options than most of its direct competition.

>No.
>>387574898
>The series is painfully easy, they don't give you much incentive to use other strategies.
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>>387577659
>I'll take Zwill Crossblades for 500, Alex.
no you won't that's a super end game weapon.
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>>387578386
It's a dagger you get for crushing a joke 'boss' in an easy sidequest.
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