Hellblade

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The IGN community rates this game as pretty high. Or, well, 8 people did.

>>387531150

I don't think the creators intended to create something artistic.

They wanted you to sympathize with psychosis patients.

/v/ hates games that pretend to be games, and are called 'more than games' by its peers.

>>387531238
It's incredibly artistic though, from the presentation of binaural audio to the Norse mythology to the puzzles, it's all artistic.

It's not pretending to be a game. How the fuck does it "pretend" to be a game?

>>387531013
you also gotta factor in it's price point, at $30 there's nothing like it

>>387531314

By literally being a videogame that lacks any mechanics that make it interesting.

I've only seen raging fanboys like Mattyplays adoring this game simply because 'it's more than just a game'. No isn't. It's a fucking game.

>>387531150
Anything that tries to be artistic just ditches either story or gameplay (sometimes both) to be cinematic. It's fucking awful. Video games are an interactive media, why not innovate gameplay while still making an artistic game? There's already several games that do this, Nier: Automata comes to mind. Not kidding at all.

>>387531415
>By literally being a videogame that lacks any mechanics that make it interesting.
Hahahahahaha I can tell you're a teenager.

What is "interesting" mechanics? The combat isn't interesting? The puzzles aren't interesting? The exploration isn't interesting? I find all of them interesting.

I guess you're wrong, huh kid?

>>387531475
Nier:Automata is overly dramatic shit and you thinking it's an especially artistic game is evidence of your emotional immaturity.

>>387531367

I can name you a better game for less than half that price and piss you off in the same process.

Terraria

>>387531490

Well yes you named all the things that I was going to name that lack any interesting or devining feature when compared to any other game that has come out until this moment.

Am I a kid or a teenager this is confusing.

>>387531569
You are a teenager as evidenced by your inability to use Spoiler tags correctly and thinking Terraria is good.

>>387531314
It's just the apples to orange. I personally hate games with a lot of talking, story, cinematographers eye. Where as if something is just scores and gameplay I tend to stick it out for longer periods of time. The argument itself is moot cause it's so subjective.

>>387531693

Never stated that Terraria is good. I wouldn't dare.

But I dare to call it better than this shit game that dares to call itself art.

I'll give you the spoiler tag I fucked up on that point. Don't see why or how though.

>>387531538
Subjective. My point still stands, Automata has the art, music, story AND gameplay to back it up. It's cinematic at certain parts. Don't even fucking meme about 2B's ass. It also tries new things with its gameplay, some of which may not have work but commendable none the less.

>>387531726
Sure and personal taste is fine. The problem are people like OP who are immature and think their opinion is gospel.
>>387531767
Hellblade is a better game than Terraria in every single area except playtime. Which isn't an important criteria.

>>387531865

>Playtime isn't important

Don't you dare

>>387531860
Hellblade has the art, sound design, story AND gameplay to back it up. It's cinematic at certain parts. It also tries new things with its gameplay and presentation, some of which may not have work but commendable none the less.

>>387531865
>two literally different games in different genres with different objectives
You need to die right away.

>>387531865
You can't really create anything in Hellblade dude. Do you mean that the programming is more complex?

>>387531013
Go back to playing shovelware garbage by nintendo, you cuck.

>>387531928

>It also tries new things with its gameplay

Name one thing that hasn't been tried before.

I still don't know what the fuck the game is

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>>387531013

It's literally progressives trying to push women and mental illness. They are destroying video games and destroying western culture.

Remember that any extreme ideology whether its left or right is religion without the mythology. So creating this kind of game adds some sort of mythology to their agenda. Fuck these people

>>387531013
A girl with psychosis going on a delusional dreamt up adventure is an awesome idea for a horror game. The gameplay was serviceable. Whats the problem?

>>387532006

Thanks you won the thread now please leave.

>>387532056

It's a walking simulator and that's the gist of it.

The gameplay seemed like this to me;

>Walk
>Look at things
>Chop at an enemy and win
>Walk
>Look at things
>What's that sound?!
>Look
>Walk

And this for 6 hours max.

>>387531928
I disagree with gameplay. It's pretty barebones sometimes, like when you're just walking around for puzzles. Even the combat seems pretty meager and poorly polished.

>new things
Name some. (3)
>inb4 torchlighting
>stopping time
>playing literal 'fit in the hole' puzzles for kids

Like I said, /v/ is insecure when anything is vaguely artistic or creative.

>>387532206

Please leave.

>>387532241
>pls don't trigger me in my safe space

>>387532064
>zero self awareness
keep defending western culture by masturbating 15 times a day and posting memes

>>387532118
The problem is that it triggers fragile people like >>387532064

>>387531013
>'the most important game of the year'
is the new "Citizen Kane of videogames" with more manageable hyperbole, they said the same thing about Prey, nobody even remembers that shit and it was a free trial recently, because that is what remarkable games do apparently

>>387532064
I mean, I came to a similar conclusion, but it's not really a good complaint since that is western culture overall. Nah man, that's not the sleight. The poorly realized world on top of 'been there, done that' gameplay is the real issue. Motherfuckers trying to pretend they can art in a medium that is so laughably juvenile would be the second kek.

>>387532310
No one has called it the Citizen Kane of video games.

>>387532270

>Safe space

How? You're here, right? I invited you to discuss a game with me how dare I imply that you failed.

>>387532310

This. People forgot about Prey in a day or so. And now watch and read the comments on Prey 2's trailer.

>>387532306
Doesn't seem like a problem to me.

>>387531150
every game has art in it, dumb fuck.

>>387532442
You want me to leave because I proved you wrong and showed you as an immature petulant kid.

>>387532206
Agreed. The thing about /v/, every game has to be the same. Games arent allowed to stray and do something different. Cinematic games are not allowed to exist. Linear games, not allowed. etc. Its boring. Maybe Im alone in that I enjoy a wide variety of content. From HellBlade, to Atelier Totori, to DJ Hero, to Paper Mario Thousand Year Door, to Catherine, to Tekken 7.

>>387532306
The problem is that it's being praised for a title it doesn't deserve. Instead of being a proper callback to AA games, instead they spend all their money on mocap and cinematics when they can polish their gameplay to be actually engaging. It's just trying to be one of those art games like Gone Home and Virginia.

>>387532206
>NT
>artistic
kys, they are corporate and cynical as any AAA dev, just because they got dumped by publishers does not magically change that

>>387532064
>That pic
This is tongue in cheek, right?

>>387532501

You've done nothing other than meme and bait.

>>387532506
exactly, /v/ don't care about creativity in game design. they want all games to be action games with stellar timing and tight controls

>>387531013
This game is shit to be honest.

>>387532206
It isn't even that, /v/ just straight up hates anything barely associated with Tameem because he said dumb shit about Dante from Devil May Cry.

>>387532506

>Agreed. The thing about /v/, every game has to be the same. Games arent allowed to stray and do something different. Cinematic games are not allowed to exist. Linear games, not allowed. etc. Its boring. Maybe Im alone in that I enjoy a wide variety of content. From HellBlade, to Atelier Totori, to DJ Hero, to Paper Mario Thousand Year Door, to Catherine, to Tekken 7.

You're the biggest moron in this thread. My main complaint is that this game tries NOTHING different.

>>387532558

>exactly, /v/ don't care about creativity in game design. they want all games to be action games with stellar timing and tight controls

>Meanwhile The Witcher 3 gets praised by almost every one on /v/ to the point that the Fallout 4 launch almost destroyed the board

>>387532661
TW3 is not a creative game.

>>387532506
I like different games, but just leave the B-roll masturbation shit to the film nerds.

>>387532558
What's creative about this one? The whispers? If they integrated it better with combat it'd be fucking awesome, but instead they wasted their time on a time stop mechanic. No pun intended.
I'm all for interesting game design, just don't ditch gameplay side of things because you want to make something cinematic.

What do I know, NT are hacks anyway.

>>387532661
TW3 should be the overrated game we're discussing. Hellblade is so-so for sure, but TW3 gets unprecedented praise on /v/ despite being mediocre.

I thought the game was great, it did nothing wrong

The gameplay was good enough to keep me entertained for the 7 hours the game lasted

puzzles got a little old but still werent bad

Story was okay, lore was presented in a great way

Sound design, including music and the voices, were an easy 8/10, but for me personally, a 10/10 for me

As for most "important" game I do not believe games are, should be, or deserve to be, a proper medium for the advancement of society.

>>387532605
That's been a thing for years though, that isn't even a /v/ meme.

>>387532839

jesus fucking reddit

>>387532798
The cinematography, the sound design, the gameplay, all creative.

>>387532801

I agree The Witcher 3 is quite mediocre.

>>387532839

>Here is my short review of a game I kind of enjoyed
>Now watch as I make excuses for its flaws

>>387532801
TW3 also gets unprecedented shitposting despite most people thinking it's pretty good.

Any popular game is going to attract a wide variety of opinions. Pretending that everyone has the same view to prove your point only makes you look like a BIG DUMMY.

>>387532897
I never made excuses for its flaws I just said that there werent any flaws bad enough to be noticed

it's a fucking 7 hour walking sim with combat in between man it is literally impossible for it to be a great game

it did good for what it was

>17 IPs

How many of you are posting from the NT office?

>>387532894
That's not creativity in game design. The cinematography didn't do something to make gameplay better, the gameplay is unbearably mediocre and the only thing notable about sound design is the whispers.

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>>387532064
lmfao that pic. I sure hope you're not seriously implying you became an anime Nazi because you think women ruined your video games and not the grinding gears of global capitalism.

>>387533090

>The NT office

The what

>>387531150
Art should exploit its medium. How can a walking simulator be art if it diches the gameplay, which is the thing that defines a game? At that point you're just making a crappy movie. Just make the movie to begin with.

>>387533128
Do you know what creativity is
It's doing things different or individual to itself
Hellblade is undeniably doing some things like the camera work and audio design that are unique to it
>>387533162
It doesn't ditch the gameplay retard and the whispers directly interact with you as the player. Don't be a retarded teenager.

>>387533162
/thread

>>387533261

Don't you fucking /thread my fucking thread

>>387533242
It may as well be a walking simulator with that gameplay.
>NT has experience in action games
>this is the best they can do
>find symbol puzzle that's literally walking simulator tier

>>387532894
How?

>>387533336
It's over friendo, the anon explained it all in two sentences.

>>387533128
This, engineering is good, but nothing to call home about. You'd know if it was good, there is no conversation about the game on the music/mixing forums. Just more dudes trying to make their bitch look good. Nothing wrong with that though. Always do 'you' /v/.

>>387533161
Ninja theory, the pretentious wankers that made the game, you know, the same tools that thought DMCs story was deep and nu-dante was some complex character.

Here's another one for you good lads,

Name one game to me that actually challenged you gameplay wise. Can be any game.

Crusader Kings 2 for me but hey, even that became old after 20 hours or so. Which is short.

>>387532605
>hates anything barely associated with Tameem because he said dumb shit about Dante
>barely associated
just so you know, he is the director and writer of this game and "/v/" hates him because he design subpar action games, only people who never played Heavenly Sword would defend Tameem

>>387533364
Fuck off, it's not a walking simulator just because it has less fighting then you want.
It's clear the game wants the fights to be purposeful rather than an onslaught of ragdolls.

>>387533162
you don't know what gameplay is.

>>387533242
Silent Hill literally did this years ago and way better. It was actually a game instead of just an "experience" too

>>387533554
There hasn't been a good Silent Hill game in 10 years and there hasn't been a game like Hellblade in a long fucking time.

>>387533545

Educate us then

>>387533541

The lack of entertaining gameplay is literally what makes a game a walking simulator.

I pissed Matty off by stating this.

>>387533545
Guess the developers don't either since this seems to be constantly challenged in these threads. If the developers had a clearly defined vision this topic wouldn't even be brought up, people would be bitching about something else in the majority,

I hate it when people like things.

>>387533646
Walking in a walking simulator is gameplay. You are controlling the events.

>>387533242
That's not in game design though, cinematics are on a different place altogether. What did cinematics do to improve gameplay? Only the whisper mechanic is a valid argument. Nothing else is creative about their game design.
If you're gonna talk about cinematics, why not just make a movie if it doesn't improve the game at all?

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>>387532506
>The thing about /v/, every game has to be the same
the most praised games on /v/ are completely different from each other
you are a idiot and a newfag

>>387533742

If walking is a game mechanic then shutting the game down is also a game mechanic.

>>387533162
How is it a walking simulator? It has full on combat and a cool mechanic of staying in the light.
this game is good and I hate games like uncharted

>>387533718
I found the gameplay entertaining.
Guess you're not objectively right, kid.
>>387533756
Gameplay is not the end-all be-all and you don't need complex gameplay to make a good game. Interactivity in and of itself adds something cinema cannot do.

>>387533597
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture is only two years old

>>387533764
I ignore people who post anime bullshit, sorry.

>>387533721
No, it comes up because /v/ actually doesn't know shit about video games.

>>387531150
>Conservatives hate art
wew lad

>>387533795
Except you do one of those in the game.

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>>387533742
>walking = controlling events
please tell me you are this retarded and not a ruse

>>387533885
I didn't get to play that unfortunately. I think that studio is one of the few truly artistic game developers though.
>>387533948
I'm not wrong. It's why almost all artists are Liberal or left-wing.

>>387531150
Conservatives aren't the ones burning books nowadays

>>387533878

>Guess you're not objectively right, kid

What a shit argument. Wait no that's not even an argument.

>Gameplay is not the end-all be-all and you don't need complex gameplay to make a good game. Interactivity in and of itself adds something cinema cannot do.

You're right. But the lack of good gameplay is what makes a game inherently bad. Like this game, and like Prey.

>>387533972

You adjust your options in the game as well. Is adjusting your resolution a game mechanic?

I'm suprised not more people have laughed at your post, to be honest.

>>387533541
I don't mean more enemies anon, I mean more engaging gameplay. If the game wants fight to be purposeful, the fights should have more impact instead of being jumpscares and literally everywhere that looks like an arena.

>>387534034
They are the ones who want to cut funding for the arts council and call certain art "Degenerate" though.

>>387534089
Hellblade has good gameplay.
Does that trigger you?
>>387534093
I found the fights engaging...

>>387534015
Shitting in a canvas and making brownies with menstrual blood isn't really art

>>387533995
Yes, it's controlling events. You lack a basic understanding of video games.

>>387534156

What triggers me is the lack of interesting gameplay.

>>387534191
Oh boy, strawmen about modern art! Good to see even teenage redditors know how to use 4chan.

>>387534015
>I'm not wrong
No, you definitely are, probably one of the most embarrassing statements I've seen all day.

>>387534089
>You adjust your options in the game as well.
Well, you adjust them in the game software, but not actually as part of the game. Menu screens are outside of the game.

Honestly, how do so many people so consistently fail to grasp these things in a community full of gamers?

>>387534015
Nah, they just hijacked it, make lame shit, and call the medium theirs. Like what they are doing with video games now. They do this to almost anything.

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>>387534015
>I'm not wrong. It's why almost all artists are Liberal or left-wing.
>"""""artists""""""

>>387534262

What I hate about art is that every one can just call anything art and get away with it.

>>387534326

> Menu screens are outside the game

False.

>>387534218
It's like saying that you control film events if you push play in your DVD. The only difference is that in walking sims you need to keep pushing the play button

>>387534341
"Hijacking" implies it wasn't always theirs to begin with

>>387534262
A strawman is better art than the crap liberals make

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>>387534015
Or you just lie about everything.
>drug addict and professional gigging church musician and musical therapist.

If I wanted to sit around listen to someone tell me about Norse mythology, I'd load up an audiobook.

>>387534015
Hitler loved art, he made better paintings than most libtards. He was also a socialist, so he was left-wing too though.

>>387533878
>Gameplay is not the end-all be-all and you don't need complex gameplay to make a good game. Interactivity in and of itself adds something cinema cannot do.
It is when you're talking about video games. It doesn't need to be complex, just more engaging. Though the two are synonymous, you can often have a simple game with very engaging mechanics.
>interactivity
If you're just going for the minimum, then you don't deserve the title of "most important game of the year".

>>387534392
>False.
No, not fucking "false". Menu screens are non-diegetic.

>>387534283
List off the best conservative artists then.
>>387534341
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>>387534479
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>>387534494
Yes I too watched PragerU and H3H3's "Modern Art is POOOOOOOP!" videos, fellow teenagers!

>>387534413
>Female Thor is not a hijacking of an established character to push an agenda

Honestly though the argument should be that extremists hijack art, not left vs right.

The good thing is that contrarian /v/'s opinion isn't the prevailing attitude and Hellblade is selling well and scoring well.

>>387534406
And that's like saying any car is a self-driving car, in some of them you just have to push the pedals and turn the wheel yourself.

>>387534620
>Thor
>art

>>387534584

Modern art is called modern art for a reason.

I just had 7 captcha checks.

>>387534098
Calling crappy art crap or refusing to give it free money isn't as bad as book burning

>>387534630
It was 30 bucks, so at least the developers knew to take it easy on the scam.

>>387534732

Or vandalizing statues

>>387534494
>Hitler loved art, he made better paintings than most libtards.
lol

He was a mediocre painter at best who made the sort of paintings you might use to decorate a hotel lobby. Not too fancy a hotel, mind.

>>387534156
Not just the fights anon, the puzzles too. The only time the gameplay made me go, oh shit time to get serious is during the torch sections.

>>387534702
To differentiate it from Impressionist, Cubist, Romantic, Realist, etc. art, yes.

all games should just be dark souls with lewd anime girls

>>387531013
>Is this the most ill defended game of the year?
What does that even mean?

>>387534806
yes, if a game does not blatantly sexualize a woman then it isn't good.

Hellblade doesn't show me her asshole. What a shitty game

>>387534732
agreed, and if the art is so good and loved, I don't see why tax payer money is actually needed.

>>387534787
yep, and that says a lot about libturd art.

>>387534837

That people make non arguments and call it a non-game, in order to call it a good game.

Defending its flaws with 'art' and mass disliking negative reviews.

This was a bretty good thread until left and right americans started coming out of the woodwork. Sigh... Can't you folks just keep it in your country and talk video games here?

>>387534841
Shit doesn't need to be sexualized, it just has to not suck. A lot is involved in making something 'not suck'. Developers should do that thing more often. No sexualization required, just be skilled.

>>387534661
Not at all. The problem with your retarded analogy is that it has a different level of complexity and interactivity. The first point stands because there's literally zero interactivity so it's less of an analogy and more of what it's literally happening.

>>387534965
>This was a bretty good thread until left and right americans started coming out of the woodwork.

you're kidding right? this crap started on the 3rd post.

>>387534982
Yes my favorite games are Nier Automata, Persona 5, and Danganronpa because of their sluts I MEAN THEIR GAMEPLAY OF COURSE /v/ doesn't hate women after all!

>>387535083
>there's literally zero interactivity
That is -literally- false. Thanks for undermining your own dumb analogy.

>>387534841
oh, now here comes the homosexual complaining about cute women.

The problem with Hellblade and games like it is that it doesn't need to be a game to tell its story. It would have been far more serviceable as a book or movie. The player's ability to interact does nothing to enhance the experience even considering the whole "voices in your head" aspect.

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Hellblade is excellent exactly for telling a different, interesting story
Many other 2017 games have just faded from my memory. They might had had more "stuff" in them, but they made much less of an impact

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>>387534965
The thread was shit with OP's post.

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>>387534584
>lel teenagers
>in thread defending a ninja theory game as art

>>387535189
I completely disagree, you being at the control definitely impacts it.

>>387535159
Those games are all asian shit my dude, I was thinking more Remember Me, Perfect Dark, Longest Journey, etc.

>>387535238

But you still post in it

>>387535192

Know how a game is shit? When people make excuses for its flaws.

>>387535089
>>387535238
We had good discussions and arguments. And was actually in topic.

>>387535170
You seem literally retarded

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>>387531013
> Is this the most ill defended game of the year?
> All people do is say that it's more than a game, but an experience.

It's the first time i saw that game. And i played like a thousand games in my entire life, which is more than 95% of /v/ ever did. Says a lot about the places you visit to get that marketing spaghetti on your ears.

>>387531013
>Is this the most ill defended game of the year?
no, Sonic Mania is!

>>387535348
Well you've been wrong about everything else so far so might as well add one more to the list.

>>387534965
It's a hellblade thread, bad by default

>>387535346
The topic never came out of OPs ass because he's fat and doesn't eat enough fiber

>>387535340
I wonder what flaws.
Minimalism itself is not a flaw.

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>>387534965
>This was a bretty good thread until
the third post in the thread throws any conversation about the game under the bus and makes it about /v/ as a whole, are you retarded?

>>387535521

It is when you ask money for it

>>387535617
>the "value" angle
Go play f2p games then or something
Or some MMO that will give you endless content to grind for minimal fee

>>387535567
It's probably OP just posting fake bait to keep his thread going.

>>387535447
You could become king of Neogaf with that wit

It's gonna win goty because it has a female protagonist and the current fad about women's "issues".

>>387531928
>the art
Decent, but in no way outstanding.
>sound design
The ASMR schizophrenia was a nice touch, probably the single best thing the developers thought of.
>story
Uninspired.
>gameplay
Fuck right off. Both the combat and the puzzles were subpar.

>>387535784
This

there isn't really even a point in discussing the merits or qualities of the game since it's a win in the media by default. Not saying there isn't anything to discuss, just that it is ultimately a boring subject because the core point is moot.

>>387535784
Like how Her Story won best game awards even though it was a shitty podcast

>>387535782
You could suck my dick.

>>387533890
>still replied.

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>>387535423

It will be defended, sure, but it won't win any GOTY awards. It should have came out in December, then it might have.

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>>387532310
>they said the same thing about Prey
>>387532442
>This. People forgot about Prey in a day or so
Are we talking about Prey or newPrey?

Because original Prey is still one of the most iconic games.

That being said, Hellblade is nothing like mediocre AAAshit newPrey is.

>>387535975
Except it was very intelligently designed game
It won those prizes for a reason

>>387531013
Its a good horror game, terrible action-adventure game.

>>387535291
In what meaningful way?

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>>387531013
Its more like an interactive story than a game, think of Asura's Wrath. Keeping that in mind, I would give it a 9/10, it was a wild ride.

>>387531013
The issue, which I think you can see throughout this thread, is that the game IS good but the people that defend it do a bad job of it.
I played it, liked it, cite it on occasion, and moved on. It's a pretty game with great atmosphere and the character, as you get to know her, is pretty grounded and relatable to the extent a celtic woman with voices in her head can be. The puzzles rarely get particularly hard, and the combat is fairly easy to master, but it also doesn't really t each you too much on how to work with these things, which is nice. It treats the player like an adult and expects them to learn it on their own.
As for remembering it, I think I will. It's gorgeous, and it IS a little experience by itself that digs deeply into the memory.
In a lot of ways, I compare this game to Journey. It's limited in content, but what it does, it mostly does well.
The thing I can't get about this game is the insane hate it gets. Ya, NT is a shit company, but they managed to put out something that's pretty good for what it is. Short, to the point, and not at all bad. But people REALLY fucking hate on it, and call anyone that claims to like it a shill/marketer. If you don't like it or don't want to like it, that's not an issue, but let other people like it. The game doesn't ask much from the player, and doesn't throw any stupid shit their way or treat them like a baby, which is FAR better than many other games these days. Let it go do it's thing, and let people that like it just like it. Stop trying to shit in their pillow case.

>>387536802
It's like Princes last album, it sucked but you'll still find old band geek types who will defend it.

>>387536553
>It won those prizes for a reason
Yeah, and the reason is green

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>>387531013
It's just more overrated garbage. Here's an objective rundown on it.

Pros:
>amazing environments
>unique setting
>immersive audio and well-implemented "paranoia" without being shitty horror
>combat is functional

Cons:
>boring combat
>boring protagonist, also ugly and unsympathetic
>puzzles don't feel satisfying
>way too short, even for the price tag
>developed by ninja theory known for almost ruining the Devil May Cry franchise

Basically it's got all the goods/bads of every piece of AAA cinematic garbage to come out since 2008, which is why it's being praised in the same fashion as other cinematic trash.

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Art is entirely subjective you elitist snobs. You can sit around and huff your own farts all day while using big words and fellating yourself on how smart you are and how you "get" postmodern bullshit, but art is completely subjective no matter what. Art cannot be objectively good, it's all a matter of taste, and that goes for video games.
If Hellblade was popular you all would hate it, but since it's a game nobody has ever heard of you maggots crawl out of the woodwork and mash your keyboards away trying to pick apart and analyze this "unappreciated gem" of a game, and how the uneducated proles just don't "get it" and don't know what fine art is like you smart critically thinking free individuals.
Fuck you schmucks. This game sucks.

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>>387537146
>"""objective"""
>90% of reasons subjective like heroine being likeable

>>387537208

Thanks for reminding me to filter 'elitist'.

>>387537032
I don't know about green, looks more like a clique of people within a community got together to congratulate (celebrate?) the media they created. Like*

>>387537285
>ruining the 4chan experience
Reddit is three doors down and to the left

>>387536971
Hurdur.
Hellblade didn't suck. Aspects of it sucked, ya, I will give you that. What it does well, however, it does REALLY well. It's atmosphere was fantastic, the voice acting is top notch, the graphics are fantastic, the character animations are smooth and transition exceptionally well from one state to another. It knows how to dig emotions out of the player when it wants, and will do so as the story requires.
What it does well, it excels at. The combat and puzzles aren't up to snuff, but not so bad they drag the game down.
If ALL YOU WANT is gameplay, ya, don't get it. I would never recommend it for gameplay. If you want smother atmosphere and an emotional elevator to hell packaged in a VERY pretty box, I say give it a go.

>>387531013
I thought it was fun and pretty cool, but I can see why people wouldn't be into it. at 30 dollars though I don't really see a big issue

>>387537208
It must be hard hating a game this much that you've never played.

>>387537346

Thanks for showing me the directions

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>>387537250
She has no development though, the game's way too short for you to get attached to the plot or characters in any way.

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>>387537208
>If Hellblade was popular you all would hate it, but since it's a game nobody has ever heard of you maggots crawl out of the woodwork and mash your keyboards away trying to pick apart and analyze this "unappreciated gem" of a game, and how the uneducated proles just don't "get it"
I don't agree with the whole "lel everything is relative and subjective, standards are not real" part but this is very true

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>>387537818
>She has no development
how it feels to be underage imbecile spouting words he does not understand
it is like kids swearing when adults nearby to make themselves look "bigger"

>>387537818
>She has no development though
Your pic is very related. What a sad waste of a character.

>>387532206
>/v/ doesnt masturbate to system shock 2, 999, silent hill 2, journey, metal gear solid 2 and papers please

being artsy doesnt preclude a game from being good. its just a startling correlation.

>>387537818
Yes she does. The ENTIRE GAME is her development. You are joining her in a roller coastal of mental breakdown and recovery, and you learn all about how she got to that point by progressing.

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>>387537925
It sounds to me like you're blindly defending a game that doesn't even deserve it. You can dismiss any valid criticism you want to maintain your delusion, it doesn't bother me.

>>387538414
>get pointed out none of his witty remarks are criticism
>muh my freedom of speech you just in denial

No, I just call out a merchant on selling rotten apples coz such a fag he is

I saw 3 minutes game play of this shit
looks like some warframe copy but melee only and with the screen getting darker by the second

mental illness isn't a game

>It's a "game tries to be an artistic experience and ends up having a mediocre gameplay" episode
IT KEEPS HAPPENING

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>>387538560
At this point I can't tell if you actually are defending the game because you believe it's good or just pretending to be retarded with all these non-arguments. I point out the game's flaws for you and somehow those aren't 'valid criticisms'. Trust me, I'm not telling you not to like it, I'm just telling you it's not a 9/10 game. It's a 5/10 game.

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>>387539081
I dont feel the need to defend the game, it does well and not like I'm its father or something.

I just call you on being a demagogic fag

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>>387539205
k

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>>387537208
> Art is entirely subjective

Because you said so?

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>>387531013
>All people do is say that it's more than a game, but an experience.
>Then what's the point of a videogame if it doesn't even entertain to the point that people remember this schmuck for longer than a week?
Ummm, because games are about expressing progressive and tolerant values?
Sheesh, do you even know anything about video games?

Biggest criticism I've seen about it here and on cripplechan is that the protagonist isn't a 10/10 model presenting herself to the camera at all times.
>REEEEE SO UNFAIR
>WHY CAN'T RANDOM WOMEN JUST LET ME FUCK THEM IN THE STREET WHENEVER I NEED TO RELEASE MYSELF
>REEEEEEEEEE

I still think it looks like a shit game though

>>387540764
Tell me why The Last Supper is objectively good then.

I'm kind of enjoying this but I'm at the part with goat man's song and lining up ravens and I don't know what the game wants me to do. Like, I get the lining up the threw blue things to make the triforce looking thing, but there are these gates that the game's telling me to go through and they change nothing.

>>387531013
no mans sky was an """expirience""" too and you know whats happen later

>>387531013
>All people do is say that it's more than a game, but an experience.

That's the same as Undertale, desu.
You can't call Undertale a game.

>>387533154
The grinding gears keep expanding the costumer base by sucking the dicks of sjw women. There are only those kind of women that are loud about vidya. The others don't care.

I just watched tales from the borderlands because there was a thread here that said it's good and it was atrocious besides a few great jokes.hospitql cork

>>387533242
Get a load of this faggot.

Do you even play games ? Do you even know what gameplay is ?

>>387545675
>soulscancer is here

thread closed

>>387544128
That's one of the hardest puzzles in the game. They DO change something, btw. Look at the ravens over your head before and after going in. It removes some.

>>387531013
>Is this the most ill defended game of the year?

Ninja Theory games tend to get shilled and white knighted here HARD.

Hell, I got called "lol, you still can't get over the hair (aka what shills were using to discredit anyone who shat on DmC)" when I told someone I am not playing Hellblade because it's a Ninja Theory game

>>387546293
I HATED DmC and NT, but Hellblade is still a pretty cool game. In fact, I hate almost all NT games, but I still like HB. It's unique and worth a shot, but if you don't want to try it, that's cool. I enjoyed it a lot.

>>387531013
It's made by the same assholes who made such forgettable garbage as heavenly sword, enslaved and DmC. So what did you expect?

They have a track record for making really shallow button mash fests with movie quality acting and scenes. Shitty try hard plots, but movie quality acting...

Oh, and don't get me started on this "hellblade" name...
Heavenly sword
Hellblade
Um, repetitive much?

The key thing to remember here is that gaming "journalists" latch onto anything scenematic. All the way back to the 90s. And that's why games like TLoU and hellblade get high scores. They're "experience" games. Games that these worthless assholes can play through in a short time and rave about the acting of all things.
Games that the public forgets about in a week because they suck sweaty balls.

>>387537351
Yeah, that shitty gameplay didn't ruin the movie.. Uh, I mean "game" at all...

>>387531013
Basically a desperate attempt by ninja theory to recoup the spanking they got for making that pile of shit, self insert DmC that,despite fanboys of the game not understanding, was hated because it was a bad game.

Basically they think that another "experience" game will win back the public. And no one cared about hellblade anyway, so ha.

And why the fuck did crapcom hire retards who make barely interactive movies with shitty gameplay to make an action game anyway?
Oh well. Hopefully shitblade will be the last nail in the coffin.

>>387547905
It's not shitty, just not stellar. It's basically Easy mode in a character combat game.