How in fuck's name is this piece of shit balanced?

>>387484736
as you can see, it has 4 legs to properly balance its weight

>>387484736
i haven't seen her new shield buff yet but i mean as of now she's pretty weak. are you complaining orisa is too weak?

Giga niga is a much bigger problem

>>387484736
I remember when she came out and was completely useless.

>>387484736
Isn't she literally sub 5% pick tier

>>387484816
>Defending Volskya
>Plop down a barrier in between the forklift and the edge and frame of the chokepoint
>refresh the barrier every time it gets mildly damaged

What does it need a fucking buff for?

>>387484904
I thought she's still shit. What has changed since she came out?

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>>387484736

>Drops ult in the middle of a choke out side her shield
>Entire team ignores it and instead keeps firing at her shield

>>387484915
yeah

>>387484792
fpbp

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>>387484792
Well I don't know. The entire upper body is resting on one end. If this machine were to outstretch it's arms it might go over.

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>ult is literally just someone else's regular ability, but on a longer cooldown and slightly better

Somebody at Blizzard needs to be fired. I'm pretty sure there's a handful of characters like this.

>>387485246
only one I can think of is widow/hanzo

>>387485246
Orisa is just a half-assed combination of a lot of character's abilities

>>387484954
be any character that flanks. a tracer, pharah,dva or even junkrat and you you break the enemy hold on the choke. Orisa's barrier doesn't even have a super high stat so if you and your ass buddies really wanted to move through the choke than you could all easily blast the barrier hard.

>>387484736
Sombra.

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Orisa is cute CUTE

Orisa feels like she was made just to make people who wanted another tank to shut the fuck up. She feels bland and uncreative and is basically filler in this roster. Like other anon said her abilities are half assed abilities of other characters put together in one. She was a waste of dev time

>>387484736
Shes kinda ass. Either go around her shield or just shoot it. Its not even that strong. Why are you having so much trouble with her?

>>387484954

It might seem like a blanket statement, but pretty much any character with zero extra mobility options is going to be underpowered at higher-level play. And Orisa doesn't even have zero mobility options, she has negative mobility since she has to slow down to attack.

They will never nerf Tracer, Genji, or Hanzo to where they need to be because people will drop the game.

>>387486142
They will never make a melee Offense character because it would fuck over their favorite Tank, DVA.

More importantly, who thought that design wasn't awful?

>>387484736
Fuck off until Bastion gets meaningful buffs.

>>387486225

Orisa is the coolest and cutest looking hero in the game.

>>387486225

The pitlord design is alright, but doesn't really fit Overwatch, especially with the African girlbot overlay.

>>387486375
inb4 barneyfag

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I think the bug skin is cute.

If Overwatch was balanced then it wouldn't be popular.

>>387486225
I like her Null Sector skin desu
The "centaur" frame is fine, it's just the theme that sucks

>>387486375
There is a sfm video of 76 fucking Orisa. It's pretty glorious

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Hello!

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>>387486225
Orisa is cute, you take that back.

>>387484736
Orisa SFM porn is god tier.

>>387486212
But D.VA is effective close range?

>>387484736
>playing mystery heroes
>nullsec skin
>me and another orisa
>we alternate shields while firing and beating down on the enemy team while our teams backs us up

It was pretty fun.

>>387484904
She's good support and can handle her own well enough if you know how to play her.

>>387486654
Heracross?

>being a stationary directional defender when dive comp is the current meta cancer

doesn't matter much what minor buffs they give her when her fundamental design is specifically countered by the current strats

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>>387486212
Yeah other than the one they literally just put out you flaming retard

>>387486568
I didn't see it on Rule 34. Sauce?

>>387487086
>just put in
>came out over two weeks ago
What did he mean by this?

>>387487086
>tank

>>387484736
I hate it's design.

>>387487646
>a couple weeks is a long period of time

you should be in bed, school's tomorrow

>>387487646
He meant he is the most recent character out relatively, you fucking dunce.

>>387484954

>What does it need a fucking buff for?

Mercy runs through the barrier and pistols Orisa to death and Orisa can't do anything else but hope to run away with Fortify because her gun is really tough to aim from real close.

Which is why they are buffing her gun so that embarrassment wouldn't happen so often anymore.

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>>387485246
>Regular ability is someone else's ult, but on a faster cooldown and slightly worse

>>387487816

>>387486212
>They will never make a melee Offense character

Go be wrong somewhere else

>>387484954
what really happens above gold:
>put down barrier
>barrier get melted in 2 seconds
>you are on 5-6 seconds cd and the enemy team rush the choke with a dva matrix

Her 400HP with the slow ass gun and movement is an attrocity as well. She has four legs but slows down like the chiken leg meka. 400Hp is JUST not enough for a tank. She can be useful on some defenses but mostly because Rein is so weak in the new meta. Her gun is at least does some damage.

>>387488232
all of which happens as the Gorilla just jumps over it onto the point and starts melting the healers

I know they can't put Zaryas ult on a normal ability but HALT is fucking useless. Small range, especially in this dive, short ass incapacitating time. That shit needs to slow down people a lot more at least.

doomfist is so fucking broken

how is blizzard so bad at balancing? every new hero is released in a broken state. how the fuck can a professional developer look at roadhog and doomfist existing in the same game in their current states and think "yeah these power levels are good, these heroes both are situationally useful"

>>387484736
>play d.va
>boosts behind her
>"nerf this"
>get potg
Get gud OP

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>>387488438
>porn
I bet you are one of those faggots who wanted widow to only have a bikini instead of a tasteful beachwear.

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>>387488438
Orisa is not for lewding.

>>387485246
desu I'm fine with the idea of ults just being upgraded regular abilities, so long as it isn't a super common thing, which it isn't

>>387488429
wut? Other than Ana(who no one even realized was broken until the following season) which new character was broken on release before Doomfist? Sombra and Orisa were both instantly relegated to never picks

>>387488656
Sombra is now a meta pick and she basically hasn't changed.

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>>387488850
Cease.

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>>387488791
which meta is that exactly?

>>387485941
This.

She was literally just a stopgap hero they pumped out with some horseshit lore about muh smart black girl to appease tumblr.

btw they nerfed hog into the dirt not because reddit complained, but because they knew that he would destroy doomfist and no one would play their hot new meme character

>>387489369
he still destroys Doomfist if the Hog isn't retarded

>>387488791
She's been buffed a few times. She's still a niche counterpick, and basically only particularly good for her ult.

>>387489554
Especially since the Monkey melts he and is picked in virtually every game at the meta level

>>387489471
Good

Not sure why people say she's not "creative"?

Design and ability wise, she's more interesting than Sombra and Ana.

>>387486775
What he means is that her shield doesn't stop melee

I was worried I was being a faggot when I stopped playing after streetswine nerf, thankfully it seems the game has gotten even worse

thanks blizard!

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>>387484736

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>>387490931
Do you want to rape this machine, anon?

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>>387484792

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Orisa online.

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>>387491409

>>387485941
>Projectile shield compared to winston/rein
>long range gun for decent suppression
>Halt is great for disorientating people and situational positioning.
I'll concede that fortify is a pointless, unfulfilling ability.

i hate that her gun isn't hitscan

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>>387491170
I do believe you have the roles reversed.

how can OW be visually well designed, but WoW is still an ugly pile of shit?

>>387489750
Design wise, shes a robot centaur.

Ability wise, shes a hodge podge of several other existing abilities.

Not to say its bad, but I wouldn't exactly call her creative.

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>>387491409
>>387491482

>>387491947
Because it wasn't made 22 years ago like wow was.

>>387492078
they've shuffled art styles for the expacs, but they're still ugly

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Orisa is pure!

>>387484960
they made her sucction orb good, shes secretly the new roadhog but no one realizes it.

>6 second cooldown on orb just like oldhog
>orb means death to pretty much all 200 health heroes out to a certain range. just like oldhog

only thing is unlike hook people can use defence abilities and it requires more precision

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Why does shooting seem so 'off' with Orisa? Am I just retarded?

>>387486008
>go around her shield
>get pulled back in front and die

OR

>go around her shield
>she fortifies and does the waltz with you around her shield and you die

>>387491607
Fortify is super fulfilling when not just used as extra damage mitigation.
It's instant death for charging Reins and Doomfists because her damage is insane close range, especially against these large hitboxes.

>>387491962

>Design wise, shes a robot centaur.

What other games have a robot centaur?
Plus, the tribal design elements are important. Leaving those out of a description of Orisa's design would be like describing Zenyatta as "robot" without mentioning any of the Buddhist influences.

>Ability wise, shes a hodge podge of several other existing abilities.
>A barrier, with different properties and shapes to other barriers, that can be fired as a projectile
>Gravity ball on a regular cooldown that yanks people to a position but doesn't hold them there, giving it a completely different usage to Graviton Surge
>A completely original ability that makes her immune to the various status effects and stuns while buffing her defense

So abilities that share similarities to other existing abilities, but are clearly different?

Is Translocator just another version of Tracer's Recall?
Is Sleep Dart just another version of flash bang?

I think the comparisons between Halt and Graviton Surge are the dumbest, as if a lengthy ultimate could be compared brief cooldown ability. That'd be like comparing Rocket Punch and Dragon Blade "because they're melee attacks and do lots of damage."

>>387492786
Nigga this is not fucking Yasuo she is the one at the disadvantage if she dances in her shield.

>>387492760

Well, they're upping the speed of her projectiles next patch. They're pretty slow right now, so you might just be experiencing people avoiding them easily, or you're shooting at where they are and never hitting them since they're moving.

>hey guys lets add a robot to a game but lets make it a NIGGER

BRAVO BLIZZARD BRAVO

>>387492760
They're easier to lead in the PTR thanks to a 20% projectile speed increase. They're now faster than Zen orbs.

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>>387488909
this should be an actual in game thing but with anyone.

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>>387493123
Orisa is a robotic Nubian queen.

>>387484736
I like playing against her

she's an ult farm like Rooadhog

>>387492978
>What other games have a robot centaur?
Not robot, but I'm pretty sure there was some old mecha fantasy RPG where one of the units was a mecha centaur.

That said, my point was it isn't super creatively designed. Even Zen as you say is kinda simple in his design as well.

>>A barrier, with different properties and shapes to other barriers, that can be fired as a projectile

A barrier which is halfway between Rein's and Winston's. In both function and shape.

>Gravity ball on a regular cooldown that yanks people to a position but doesn't hold them there, giving it a completely different usage to Graviton Surge

Its still ball that literally pulls people to its center. It doesn't hold them for longer than its pull, but Grav's function is literally also a Ball that pulls people to its center, the only difference is the duration and the fact it holds them there.

Ult which is a damage boost. Which is essentially Mercy's right click applied to everyone nearby.

Her only unique ability is her immunity to stuns while increasing her def. Though the def increase isn't somethin unique to her either if you consider Ana's ult, and soon to be Roadhog's take a breather.

Also your examples are kinda stretching it thin a bit too much. If you're going to compare similar abilities, it'd have been better to do something like Bastion's heal and Roadhog's or something. The two you chose have pretty big differences compared to what you're saying.

this is obviously b8. op does this almost everyday with a new hero.

>>387484736
Orisa is my waifu, say something nice about her! Don't forget your waifu loves you too!
I love spamming this line after every match

>>387485894
post pics of Orisa shitting

>>387493960
Stop that

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>>387493960
Why would you do this?

>>387484736
Same as gold shitters who complain Symmetra is OP, literally get gud you fucking scrub

they should add alternate ability loadouts for heros

>>387484736
The only problem with her is that her abilities are rerolled from other heroes. Especially the ult needs complete rework to be interesting.

I still have played her longer than rein

>>387494102
No aim.
No brain.
Symmetra Main.

XD

I main sym because shes the autism rep, which is perfect for ME!

>>387494237
Whatever floats your boat, I'm Zen personally, even I can duel a fully charged Sym if needed

>>387494201
Orisa is unironically my favourite tank. I enjoy the extra buffs she's getting.

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>>387494201
>>387494386
I feel you, bros. Are they gonna give her damage back?

>>387494054
okay then post pics of dvas mech shitting

please

>>387493567

>The two you chose have pretty big differences compared to what you're saying.

Not really.

Recall - Returns you to an earlier position when activated, with the health you had at that position, can only travel back a few seconds
Translocator - Returns you to a position where a projectile is thrown, no healing, but can return there for a longer duration, until the projectile disappears

Now compare that to;

Graviton Surge- Ultimate ability, pulls all nearby players into one location, holds them there and disables movement abilities, and does damage over time
Halt - A slow moving orb that flies in a straight path, can be activated at any time while it's traveling to yank targets towards it, including into the air. Targets take no damage, and are immediately free to move again.

Most of the time, I would use both Recall and Translocator to get out of a dangerous situation. They do have things only they can do, but they share clear similarities.

Meanwhile, the main use of Graviton Surge, coordinating with other Ults/team attacks, would be incredibly difficult to do with Halt, and things that Halt is better at (yanking people into environmental kills, pulling people out from behind cover) is stuff you would never waste a Graviton on.

I think a lot of the similarity people complain about is cosmetic/thematic. Tracer's ability is supposed to be her going back in time, Sombra's is her using a gadget to teleport, but functionally they can be used for very similar purposes, even though they're very different things. But people see one ball that pulls people towards it and another ball that pulls people towards it, and they act like there's a lot more similarity then there actually is.

her projectiles are way too slow.
her ult is lackluster.
i still play her from time to time just because her gun sounds so satisfying.

>>387494589
>hold left mouse
>pitch changes as your ammo gets nearer to empty

I crave her robotic PUSSY please post it

>>387494451
She's getting a 20% projectile speed buff, and her shield is now almost as large as Reinhardt's, as well the shield has a more pronounced lower lip to protect Orisa's feet when it's planted on the payload or the edges of high ground areas.

>>387494770
Very good. My waifu continues to be a good choice for instalocking.

>>387494770
I bet she has stinky robot feet :3

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>>387494451
show your comp performance pleb, no one cares about quickplay

>>387494321
all it takes is one good flank and one orb blocked by shield matrix and you're done son.

I'm just kidding obviously, symmetra is F tier for a reason, I wish they would give her some qol buffs, but hey, least shes good on console, right?

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>>387495175

>>387494571
>Recall - Returns you to an earlier position when activated, with the health you had at that position, can only travel back a few seconds

You forgot the very specific difference of Recall sending you back to a position you held several seconds ago with no real way to determine the exact spot you'll appear at Vs a skill that literally has you appear at a spot you specify.

Also that one heals and the other doesn't. And the shorter duration.

Theres a similarity for sure, but its the weakest of any example you could have used. Furthermore, if your going to compare them by what their main use is for, then you may as well say that Recall is the same as Deflect, since both are used to get out of dangerous situations.

Also yes, obviously the ult is going to be stronger. Not sure why thats even something confusing. Equally unsurprising is that is it really so hard to understand why an ability that fires an orb that pulls people into one spot is getting comparisons to the other orb that pulls people into one spot?

>
Meanwhile, the main use of Graviton Surge, coordinating with other Ults/team attacks, would be incredibly difficult to do with Halt, and things that Halt is better at (yanking people into environmental kills, pulling people out from behind cover) is stuff you would never waste a Graviton on.

First, Halt + Ults can be incredibly effective. In fact pretty much all of the uses for Grav Surge can be substituted for Halt, though it is a bit trickier to do.

Secondly, pretty much everything you've said about not using grav on is wrong. Ulting to pull people out of cover and into the open and holding them there is an excellent use of Grav, especially if its a high prority target/s. Secondly, getting environmental kills is harder due to needing to hit a wall or something to grav and suspend people over a pit, but its very doable as well and can be very effective on some maps.

Both are situational of course, but still.

>>387494571
think a lot of the similarity people complain about is cosmetic/thematic. Tracer's ability is supposed to be her going back in time, Sombra's is her using a gadget to teleport, but functionally they can be used for very similar purposes, even though they're very different things. But people see one ball that pulls people towards it and another ball that pulls people towards it, and they act like there's a lot more similarity then there actually is.

Thats because Orisa is a new hero and several parts of her kit are basically what other heroes do as better/worse. As I already specified before, her ult is essentially Mercy boosting the whole team, and the shield is a mix between Rein's and Winston's. People have every right to call it out when the only thing thats actually original and distinct is the one ability she has that causes her to be immune to stuns/slows and gives her a damage reduction.

And hell, if you think about it, even that isn't that new since its essentially Zarya's bubble but shittier.