Sonic Mania or S3&K?

S3&K is consistently better.

It's close, but I still prefer S3&K (especially the Complete version). Mania fells like it loses steam at the end.

>>387482138
S3&K

shadow the hedgehog for the nintendo gamecube

Mania.

It's the proper update to the Classic Sonic with much more interesting Act 2s to the retro strages, more graphics, better enemies to fight, and a slew of better boss battles.

shadow the hedgehog for the sony playstation 2

>2 cycled mania's final boss
what did I miss out on?

shadow the hedgehog for the TI-83 pocket calculator

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This is still the best game with Sonics name on it

Is the Puyo Puyo boss fight a cut down version? I beat Eggman too quickly with only 1chains. Is it possible to execute a Diacute or Bayoen?

Mania.

I hate Sandopolis zone, Mania's Oil Ocean 2 is way better.

>>387482276
>>387482329
>>387482331
but dat drop dash though

>>387483609
worthless, only good for speed running

>>387482138
lol i havent played either

Mania. Better graphics and animations.

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>>387482727
This guy gets it

>>387483673
so it is good for the entire purpose of a sonic game?

anyone saying 3&k has nostalgia bias

>>387484117
anyone saying Mania hasn't got over the honeymoon period

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>>387482959
>This is still the best game with Sonics name on it

wrong

Mania is cheating by pulling in the best levels from the classic Sonic games.

If we assess the new zones compared to the old zones - I would still take Hydrocity, Mushroom Hill and Flying Battery over Press Garden, Mirage Saloon and Titantic Monarch.

3&K is the epitome of the series and will probably forever remain that way

>>387484025
>le going fast

platforming has always been sonic's strongpoint, not the dumbass speed shit which is exactly why 3&K is the best, it had the strongest focus on platforming over going fast

>>387484117
never had a genesis as a kid, played the game for the first time in 2012, it's the best one

>>387482138
Sonic 2 ;^)

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Fuck this boss, he keeps dropping fucktons of clear shitblobs on me at once

>>387482138
It doesn't work that way, Mania is built upon 3's legacy, mechanics, etc. It wouldn't exist as it is without 3.

>>387482138
Sonic Mania's low points are so distracting from the overall greatness of the game, sucks, they literally could have removed 2 entire zones and the game actually would have been better.

Either way, it's still better than sonic and kuhnukles, not by much,

>>387482138
Mania was pretty good, but S3&K was completely original, and the 'story' was a lot more compelling, Mania felt too rehashy to be a proper sequel, although I understand that and being connected to forces are completely SEGA and Iizuka's fault, not the Mania teams.

>>387485864
No, it's exactly why CD is the worst.

Sonic 3 Complete > Sonic Mania > Sonic 3 & Knuckles

>>387482959
It's a shame that Mario Kart basically IS the kart racing genre now. ASRT reminded me Kart racers could be fun.

>>387485864
>platforming
>sonic's strongpoint
wat

>>387486210
bait

>>387484786
I like Press Garden, Mirage Saloon and Studiopolis all more than those. Except Hydrocity, which I also think played better in S3.

>>387486003
I died the first time I played it due to having not played Mean Bean Machine in like 10 years, but after I remembered how every play was a breeze.

>>387486129
>CD
>platforming emphasis

it's main gimmick is about going fast (time travel)

>>387484786
>Oil Ocean
>Metallic Madness

>>387482138
Mania. I was never a big fan of 3&K

>>387486313
Which is fucking retarded hard to do since everything is 90 degree angles.

Mania, easily

I played through S3&K and Sonic 2 again yesterday, played through Mania today.

It's definitely better, and the most consistently good Sonic game. There aren't shit stages like Sandopolis that you dread playing again. Level design, enemy design, boss design. All are better in Mania.

Only thing I wish it had was a little cutscene between every zone like S3&K had.

>>387486725
Ask me how I know you're an advertiser.

>>387486796
damn, you got me

>>387482138
Haven't played Mania yet but 3K is really something else and I doubt it will ever be surpassed as my favorite game of all time. That game is too insane in just how much attention to detail from the music, to the visual presentation, to the story, to the art style, to the art direction etc. and how all of these connect so seamlessly to one-another. I could write a damn book just gushing about the genius the of 3K.

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>>387483609
>tfw Taxman is a retard for sticking to the one-button mentality and we could have Super Peel-out/Insta-Shield/Drop Dash/Spindash with Super/Hyper Sonic transformations with a separate button plus Detransformation option

>>387486129
>No, it's exactly why CD is the worst.
No you fucking retard that is not the reason. The reason CD is the worst is because the level design is blocky as shit and because the levels are too short. The game was made with exploration in mind first and foremost and forgets about the speed and platforming. The platforming in CD is actually garbage.

Sonic 1 and 3K have the best plaforming.

>>387487482
You're right, except Sonic 2 is Better than Sonic 1.

>>387487609
Better platforming than 1? I don't think so.
If you mean Sonic 2 is better than 1 I disagree there too I find Sonic 1 to be a more polished and better designed game overall but I can see how one might prefer Sonic 2.

>>387487686
Can you elaborate? I'm genuinely curious how one can prefer Sonic 1 over 2

>>387487686
Sonic 1? More like, Sonic: not FUN.

>>387482138

S3&K COMPLETE

>>387487942
Like I said Sonic 1 is just an overall more polished and better designed game.

Sonic 1 has
>better level design with better platforming, exploration and more creative obstacles
>it's a bit more challenging
>art style is significantly better
>no filler zones like Hill Top
>no zones as badly designed as Oil Ocean and Metropolis(don't get me wrong I still like these zones but they have their issues)
>bosses are better on average
>is more polished/has far less bugs
>physics feel a bit snappier in sonic 1
>special stages are dogshit in sonic 2 while the special stages in 1 are my favorites(Blue Sphere is my 2nd fave)

>>387488081
Spindashbabby detected

Sonic 2 > All.

>>387482138
Mania is better

>>387487291
Also Insta-Shield is weaker in Mania, I can go through the spiked balls on Flying Battery Act 1 boss and they're bigger than Sonic, however in mania I have trouble going through smaller projectiles.

>>387488662
S3K is vastly better than S2, I'd even rather S1 over S2.

>>387486003
This boss if fucking great fanservice but I can't help but feel like it's going to feel more annoying than fun in the long run.