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Will it be good?

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Will it be good?
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>>387448149
Do you have no taste or just retard?
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>>387448149
It's Sonic, so no.
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its every bad think about sonic in one shit package
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>>387448149
it'll be okay at best.
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>Team Sonic
>Current year

Taxman and Stealth are our lord and saviours. Boycott this garbage so they're forced to bow to their superior white mania masters
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>>387448149
>Sonic Team post 3&K
>Good
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>>387448149
Doesn't need to be good, if it'll really cost $40 on switch and run fine i'll buy it just for the character creator.
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>>387448149
No.
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>>387448149
Sonic was never good. The mania hype has actually made me physically ill out of pure disgust.
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>>387451380
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>>387451380
>A fictional character makes you sick

Sad.
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Looks Sonic Unleashed tiers of bad so far.
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not even remotely
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It looks like Gens but worse, and Gens itself was only decent.
At best it looks like it'll be a completely middle of the road game (not particularly good or bad) with a few angsty cutscenes.
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>>387451380
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I hope it's terrible.
I hope it's every single thing wrong with sonics writing.
I hope it's ineptly edgy, pandering to autistic fans, and reads like bad fanfic.
Because I love it when sonic focuses on plot.
It's always so dumb, so lame, so JRPG-esque in all the wrong ways.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.
I neeeeed the terrible story and the lame rock soundtracks because it makes me nostalgic for the early internet.
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>>387448149
>Three gameplay styles

Literally no chance of being good. Autismos and ironic memers will love it though.
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>>387448149
No way in hell, also the 2D sections will be criticized to shit because they'll be compared to mania
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>>387449525
Sonic Advance 1-3
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>>387448149
I think so. I enjoy the boost formula and the Avatar stages look fun. Classic Sonic will be the weakest part of the game because he'll pale in comparison to his mania counterpart. I'm looking forward to seeing edge return to the series. It brings me back to the 2000's.
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>>387452867
Okay at best games
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>>387448149
The day levels in Sonic Unleashed are the only good thing to come out of this franchise, and the other half of the game was garbage werehog levels.
There are no good Sonic games
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>>387452867
Those were largely developed by Dimps, not Sonic Team.
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>>387448604
that's what has me excited about it.
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>>387448149
>A whole game based on the worst level of 06
No
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No, it's fucking boostshit. Not to say the 2D sections will be any better as modern Sonic Team can't do 2D right. Only the OC's 3D sections have any bit of potential right now
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>>387448149
>arms aren't blue
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>>387448149
>Will it be good?
>produced by the guy who directed 06
>directed by the guy who directed Lost World
I'm thinking no.
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>>387448149
The 2d levels already look terrible so no.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wYD5b4VUw
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>>387448604
But anon, Knuckles isn't a roided out retard in this one.
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>>387448149

It'll be good if you're autistic.
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>>387454012
>Only the OC's 3D sections have any bit of potential right now
Have you seen gameplay of the OC's 3D sections? It looks like a shallow ripoff of Ratchet and Clank with awkward jump movement.
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>>387454139
It's kind of sad how a team of like ten fans and western indie devs have completely and utterly upstaged Classic Sonic in every way compared to what Sonic Team and DIMPS have attempted to recreate and failed on every conceivable level.
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>>387454139
Looks pretty decent IMO. Not great but not terrible either.
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>>387454235
Boom Knuckles is more entertaining as a character than game Knuckles has been since 2001.
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the character creator is the only thing in the game people care about and they completely screwed it up so no it sucks.
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I unironically like Theme of Infinite

Although I hope to god that Infinite in general is taking the piss out of every edgy character ever
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>>387454139
>that music
Did they not learn their lesson with Sonic 4?
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You know it. I know it. Your mother knows it. We all know it. The dog knows it.

Just accept it and perhaps keep your expectations either low or non existent or else you're gonna be like "I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed."
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>>387454828
In this case they actually used the Genesis soundfont this time. The composer (I think the same one as Lost World / Colors) said it wasn't the final mix and not all of Classic Sonic's music would be like that, but.. egh.

it's fucking Sonic Runners music made tiny 16-bit without even truly holding to what made the old Sonic music good, and it's not even as good as Sonic Runners music on its own
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>>387454767
>Although I hope to god that Infinite in general is taking the piss out of every edgy character ever
Unfortunately Sonic Team harbors no self-awareness whatsoever, so Infinite is literally just going to be Mephiles 2.0.
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>>387454583
What's wrong with it?
I haven't researched it at all.
Can I play as my actual sonic OC or are bats not allowed?
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>>387455000
How can they be so unaware of what they are doing when Infinite harbours everything that makes an edgy character?
>N-nani, he's fast!
>Hand covering face
>British accent
>Refers to everyone as lower than him
>Red eyes
>Powers never seen before
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>>387454828
Sonic Fources
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>>387454996
>In this case they actually used the Genesis soundfont this time.
Really? Because I think the general melody is fine, but the instrumentation just sounds terrible.

Oh well. Guess this will be another Sonic game like Lost World where the soundtrack is alright, but nothing amazing like usual.
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>>387454139
I need a version where sonic does cringy voices over the gameplay
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>>387455254
>the general melody is fine, but the instrumentation just sounds terrible.
You just described the genesis soundfont and how it's usually used
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>>387455316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvTn-jgPn_c
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>>387448149
Even if it is, 2D fags will never admit that modern Sonic games are good.
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>>387455349
Fair enough.
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>>387448149
Not a hope in hell
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I only want it for the sanic donutsteel creator. But just you watch and find the PC version cancelled.

>Due to the overwhelming reception over the news of Mania being delayed, coupled with lackluster sales from the platform, we are sad to announce that the Windows (Steam) version of Sonic Forces has been postponed indefinitely.
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>>387454767
>I hope to god that Infinite in general is taking the piss out of every edgy character ever
This joke is overdone though. Look what happens any time someone mentions Shadow nowadays.
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>>387455043
https://youtu.be/fyTzm8WgtlE

Does not look as good as Mania nor Generations. But I'm still hopeful.
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>>387455561
Shadow wasn't supposed to be just a parody when he was created. That came later
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>>387454139
WHAT DID THEY FUCKING DO THIS TIME

HOW IS IT **WORSE** THAN FUCKING GENERATIONS
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>>387455561
It was overdone by the fanbase. Sonic Team has never done this.

To be fair, the idea of Shadow could've been alright. Fix the story, physics and playing Westopolis for the millionth time and I would've enjoyed it.
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>>387455146
>How can they be so unaware of what they are doing when Infinite harbours everything that makes an edgy character?
Because Japan still thinks those types of characters are cool whereas the west just thinks they're ridiculous and are generally used in satire.

I guess the PR team will try to play off Infinite's edge ironically, but they're essentially trying to cover up an open wound with a band-aid at this point.
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>>387455385
Funny enough that boss theme isn't even bad. Infact it's kind of catchy, although it helps that they're not using Genesis drums.

I think a big problem for a lot of Sonic 4 and the Forces Classic Sonic GHZ is those goddamn S1/2 tinny drums.
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>>387455385
BURST
BURST
BURST
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>>387455708
Shadow was fine in SA2. They should have kept him dead for awhile. Poeple would be ten times more hyped about Shadow being in Forces if we hadn't seen him since SA2.
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>>387455823
That bothered me too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4
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It'll probably be decent-mediocre but everyone will act like it's the blunder of the millenium due releasing on the heels of Mania.
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>>387455385
>end of the egg dragoon boss
>another sonic appears in the floor as the dialogue doesn't even have time to finish before the clear screen
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>>387455939
Nah it'll get called a blunder just because it's sonic , even mania was being called a massive blunder on release day.
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>>387456132
>even mania was being called a massive blunder on release day
there are other websites about videogames than 4chan's /v/ you know
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>>387451380
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>>387454139
I never played Generations
Why does he stop so much? Is it just the guy playing or is there no momentum from the jumps?
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>>387451380
The near universal acclaim for Mania including by people new to the series proves you wrong
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>>387456132
>even mania was being called a massive blunder on release day.
This really isn't true at all, the only real negativity was immediately after the PC delay announcement which immediately died on release because the game was so good that it was difficult to actually shitpost about
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>>387455316
Umm . . . Sonic Boom
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>>387448149
If it's like Generations then it will be good.
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>>387455385
WHY IS THERE 2D MODERN SONIC GAMEPLAY WHEN THEY HAVE CLASSIC SONIC
Fucking pisses me off
This is why I stopped after Colors
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>>387456749
Correct. Much like Generations, there's little to no momentum and inertia carried forward into and maintained through your jumps.
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>>387456749
>is there no momentum from the jumps?
Bingo. Generations' classic physics aren't very accurate to the originals, and instead of tightening them up for Forces, Sonic Team just fills levels with speed boosters and springs in an attempt to emulate the the "speed" of the classic games.
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Dead in the water because Sonic Team got BTFO by random fucking fan devs in the west and it means they literally have no excuse anymore other than incompetence for still being unable to release good games because it can clearly be fucking done
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>>387457323
The closest we've ever gotten to a statement on the matter is that they feel that classic sonic physics don't work well in 2.5D.

A very old mod for Generations proves that statement very wrong.
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>>387454139
>the way he stops still after bouncing off an enemy with no momentum at all
>that sonic spin that gives you full speed all at once to mask the lack of momentum

jesus this is even worse than generations, at least generations classic sonic tried.

this game is going to be such a massive failure compared to Mania
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>>387448604
>:think:
i hope it'll be super cheesy and deliberately cringy, but actually (so bad it's) kinda good. like one final goodbye to every bad thing that ever happened to sonic

then they move on to make more good sonic games
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>>387457414
I've seen 2.5D fangames and tech demos that emulate classic physics better than any of Sonic Team's attempts. They're a bit of a lost cause at this point.
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>>387457451
That's too much wishful thinking.
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>>387457434
>that sonic spin that gives you full speed all at once to mask the lack of momentum
What's funny is that they actually pulled that move from Mania (where it works fine) and Sonic Team still managed to fuck up its implementation.
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I'm just waiting for the fresh porn surge
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>>387456457
yes but this is website where every game is shit and everything is a failure.
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>>387456870
Or maybe everyone but me is a fucking loser. Bet you didn't think about that, huh?

Too much shit I've dealt with in life to care about the validity of opinions I don't fucking share.
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>>387448149
Nope, it's going to be awful. It's going to be interesting to see however what Sonic Team does after Forces. Sonic Team has spent the past 15 years trying to make a good game and failing over and over again. Now Sonic Team has seen the reaction to Mania which was massively positive in comparison to their own games which have varied from "complete garbage" to "it's okay, I guess", will Sonic Team learn anything or will they continue with the same shit they've been doing in the past?

It's unknown at this point, on one hand, Mania is undoubtedly going to be a better game than Forces, but most of the modern Sonic fanbase people who just like it for the characters and the barely a game gameplay that modern 3D Sonics have is perfect for them, so they'll likely buy Forces up in at least as great quantities as Mania sells.
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>>387454139
Oh look, this stage again.
Seriously, how many times are they going to re-imagine Green Hill Zone?
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>>387458589
Green Hill Zone is always going to be the "basic" Sonic level
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The Sonic series is the one series above all others that not everything needs to be 3D. Back when 3D was new everyone pushed every game to be 3D and lots became such massive pieces of shit that their series' got abandoned completed, Sonic, having console manufacturer money pushed through, pumping out games that shouldn't have been. Sonic has been suffering literally 2 decades of dogshit games because Sega is retarded and the autistic fans will buy whatever Sega shits out.
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>>387458589
Imagine a world where every single game started with green hill zone. That would be extremely rad.
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>>387448850
Oh, don't worry, the Sonic Team will kill Mania Sonic in Forces so that those two can't make a Mania 2 anymore, they went too far with the first Mania and made it too good which brought great dishonor to the Sonic Team.
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>>387448149
Why is the Sonic team so fucking out of touch with what fans want? Make adventure 3 already for fucks sake.
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>>387459074
Oh damn. Since you put it that way... I actually kind of want this.
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>>387459075
>implying the suits at SEGA's HQ would let them do that
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>>387459075
TOO FRAR MRANIA TREEAAAM
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>>387454139
Worst song in Forces so far.

Every other song (even Infinite's theme) is alright though. Park Avenue Custom Hero is really catchy and Fist Bump has grown on me. Helps the true final boss in Mania uses a remix of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PV1MVNgOcc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI97jY3FZ9Q
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>>387459075
The best can hope for is that after Forces gets its mid 60s metacrit review the entire team decides to commit seppuku for being outdone by the dirty round eye white devils and bring dishonest to their families.
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>SEGA of America wants Sonic to itself
>Feeds a bunch of bullshit to jap execs about "giving Sonic a mature feel"
>Says character creator "gives the player narrative freedom"
>Japs produce Sonic Forces
>Game flops
"Sonic has a culture in America, therefore SEGA should be an American company."
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>>387455146
>It was all a joke
>Sonic twitter is intentionally feeding the japs bullshit as a joke
>didn't think they would actually do it
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>>387455146
Now why does that sound familiar? (Besides the accent)
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>>387454139
God it looks worse than when I first saw it. Maybe I've just had my judgement spoiled by Mania but it still looks awful.
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>>387460228
Shadow turned out to be pretty cool though, it wasn't until he got his own game where he acted super out of character by being completely edgy.
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>>387454139
Good lord, this is goddamn suicide in the same year as Mania.
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sonic has never been good
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>>387448149
I really don't even think this will be "So edgy/bad it's good" in the vein of the Dark Age Sonic games. I think, just like Lost World, Heroes, and Black Knight, it's just going to be another divisive drop in the bucket of Sonic's career.

Too many varying playstyles to the point where fans of a particular one aren't going to feel completely satisfied.

Fans of Boost aren't going to like the Wisps and Classic Sonic returning

Fans of Classic Sonic aren't going to like his shitty physics

Fans of Adventure, are probably disappointed that some of their favorite characters are still just cutscene fodder.
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>>387460673
this

when can we stop pretending that sonic games were ever good?
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>>387460917
>Fans of Boost aren't going to like the Wisps and Classic Sonic returning
>Fans of Classic Sonic aren't going to like his shitty physics
>Fans of Adventure, are probably disappointed that some of their favorite characters are still just cutscene fodder.
I'm a fan of all three and that's why I'm not looking forward to this
Mania was great. Now I wish they could spend time on a boost game with a ton of original levels (and no fucking 2D)
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>>387459619
It will never happen. Read up more on Sega's history. Unlike other Japanese companies with overseas parts like Sony of America or Nintendo of America, Sega of Japan passionately hates Sega of America.

It all stems back to the Sega Genesis days. Sega was losing badly to Nintendo in America, the then CEO of Sega Hayao Nakayama hired Tom Kalinske to lead Sega of America and turn the ship around. Tom Kalinske had success bringing the American audience to Sega, how did Sega of Japan reward him? By stripping him of any ability to manage anything which lead him top leave Sega. The Japanese suits at Sega were so upset that they got outdone by non-Japanese that they shot themselves in the foot and don't want to give Sega of America control over anything. Luckily SoA was able to get Mania in (completely their ideal to get taxman and the boys in on this).
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>>387454507
It's almost like Knuckles was never a comic relief.
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>>387448149
it'll probably be passable but nothing Mania-tier.
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>>387457178
Because they need filler.

Modern Sonic stages are insanely huge and you run really fast, so they need the slow 2D sections to make the levels feel longer.
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is this site full of serious 50 year old men? can't you just have fun with crazy stories?
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>>387455316
>>387454139
>>387448149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3TMwTohAbs

This will always be fucking hilarious to me
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>>387462207
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>>387448149
Generations is literally the only good 3D Sonic.

I'm cautiously optimistic about this one.
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>>387462439
It's more cringey than anything.

It's really weird. The modern sonic fanbase seem like a group of people who are now self aware of how autistic they are and how cringey newer sonic games can be. Where the Sega of Japan makes them seriously and the actual western market for the games just makes fun of what Sega of Japan thinks they want.
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>>387448149
no
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>>387454851
>RelaxAlax image
Why are you bald, bro? You're only like 22.
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>>387462736
if anything you're cringey
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>>387462439
>can't you just have fun with crazy stories?
Laughing at crazy stories is more fun when you know the story is supposed to crazy, otherwise it's just kind of sad.

Kinda like laughing at a retarded kid who keeps tripping over his own shoelaces. It's funny, but also a bit pathetic.
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>>387462948
Yeah, that'll show him.
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>>387454139
This looks like a fan game.
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>>387448365
It's MODERN Sonic, so no.
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I like Infinite, because he's over the top edgy and ridiculous, but looks pretty entertaining because of it.

The worst story I've ever seen in a game was Sonic 2006. It was ridiculously bad and wanted you to take it so seriously. No fun at all, just poorly written, cliche furdrama. I'd take 1000 Baldy McNosehairs over DA IBLIS TRIGGER MUST DIE any day.

That being said, damn is Zavok out of place.
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>>387460228
like others have said Shadow in SA2 is fine, he even calls sonic out as the clone and fake which is funny, he wasn't made into an edgelord until they gave him guns.
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>>387464315
>The worst story I've ever seen in a game was Sonic 2006.
Guess what? The guy who wrote 06's plot is also writing Forces'. The only difference this time around is that they're getting Colors/Lost World's writers to help localize it.
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>>387464568
Shit. Really?

I hope to fuck he learned. 2006's story was so fucking boring and cliche, and it was presented as a masterpiece drama. I don't care if Forces is retarded; I want it to be. I just don't want shitty melodrama, Sonic fucking dying, and realistic humans next to 3 foot tall walking talking cartoon animals.
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>>387464568
The bad things with '06's plot were Elise and Mephiles' stupidly complicated plan ontop of Silver taking everything Mephiles tells him at face value and trying to seal Iblis in himself despite knowing it wouldn't work, as well as letting Sonic try to save Elise alone when they already failed once. Or just Silver in general for the story really.

Shadow was competent and didn't fuck up, most of the rest of the cast were either inoffensive or got shit done besides Sonic's team, and ultimately it's down to Elise, Silver, and Mephiles + the badly written time travel that fucked 06's plot up.
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>>387448149
I hope so but I'm going to go with no.
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Why do all the new sonic games have such a hard dick for time travel?
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>>387449662
>running fine
>on Switch
Pick one
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>>387448149
it'll probably be good but /v/ and /vg/ will never accept it
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>>387464802
>and ultimately it's down to Elise, Silver, and Mephiles + the badly written time travel that fucked 06's plot up.
Which was most of the game
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>>387465001
An easy excuse for both Sonic CD references ala beating a sacred cow and bringing in Classic Sonic and old-school stages.

To also be fair, Sonic 2 was going to have a time travel plot as Sonic and Tails would effectively circle around on the same island in multiple different eras for a linear adventure and, presumably, the Master Emerald or Hidden Palace shrine would've contributed to this. But the dev team realized Sonic CD was using time travel too and backed off.
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>>387448149
Nope.
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>>387458214
It's more likely that you're just a jaded loser.
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>>387464794
>I hope to fuck he learned.
That would be ideal, but since Infinite is looking to be just another Mephiles I'm not thinking that's the case.
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>>387454139
>the parts where you go fast are S shaped tracks that automatically launch you with no input required
>meanwhile the rest of the map is Sonic hopping between medium to small sized platforms, getting 5-10 rings at a time and killing one to two enemies in single bounces
This is fucking awful. It looks so fucking boring.
Also how has it been 20+ years and sonic fans aren't sick of the BWOONG sound that sonic makes every few seconds? That's fucking infuriating. Even the Mario games got smart and changed them to small "hup" or "hoo!" sounds. Having something like that with the Bwoong sound every now and then kicking in randomly for nostalgia would have been a much better idea
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>>387460131
>PepsiFur.
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>>387465430
Most of the 3D titles got rid of the old jump sound for a more generic wind-esque hop noise, depends on the game. But Classic Sonic is classic jump noises it seems.
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>>387465430
>Also how has it been 20+ years and sonic fans aren't sick of the BWOONG sound that sonic makes every few seconds?
The only 3D Sonic games since 2001 that feature a jump noise is Generations (for classic Sonic) and Lost World.

I actually liked Lost World's jump noise since it's softer sounding than what is typically used.
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>>387449525
A lot of their non Sonic games like Ristar and NiGHTS were cool

Too bad they had to go ruin the latter later on
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>>387454139
That music is terrible and I've seen sonic fan games that looked better
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So are people finally realizing that Boostshit is garbage, and that they need to go back to Adventure-style 3D, or build off of Lost World?
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>>387448149
cant get classic gameplay to work after 4 years so its going to be trash
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All this doomsay. Forces is gonna sell more than Mania and get decent reviews like Colors and Genrations. Nothing new to see here.
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>>387455930
EWww butt rock dubstep
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>TFW Shadow will never be playable again.

I'll be happy with a post game exclusive model swap that doesn't require mods.
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>>387465831
>Makes NiGHTS the female and Reala the Male
>The fucking PERSONA MASKS
>THE ENTIRE STORY REBOOT FOR NO REASON
>THE EVER LOVING FUCK WITH THOSE TRANSFORMATIONS
NiGHT's didn't deserve any of this and my only pleasure in life now is to pervert what's left of it as sexual as possible.
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>>387454298
>everyone on /v/ will like it
i dunno anon
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i goi g to make asally
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>>387448149
Hard to say, the western PR team is very self-aware of the edgelord situation so it kinda has potential at being "so hilariously bad it's good" that as long as the gameplay and music is on par, it'll be considered the best 3D Sonic since SA/SA2.

I find it really hard to believe even Sonic Team aren't self-aware at this point, especially when they have had the staff work with Webber and the Mania team so much the last year or so.
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>>387466183
Sonic Colors wand Lost World where self aware as fuck too but you don't see ether get talked about that greatly anymore. Colors was good for a while, but over time people found it worse and worse, and Lost World's writing couldn't save all of the issues that game had on a fundamental level.
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>>387466090
>only pleasure in life now is to pervert what's left of it as sexual as possible
give me some of that porn anon
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>>387448149
>tfw Classic Sonic will not play like he did in Mania
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>>387466004
>get decent reviews like Colors and Genrations
Unlike those games, Forces isn't even getting that many decent previews from those who have played it at E3. I don't think the game's reviews are going to be any better than "It's okay at best".
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>>387466183
>especially when they have had the staff work with Webber and the Mania team so much the last year or so
Forces has been in development since 2013. The current PR team hasn't been around for that long.
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>>387454139
>He slows down 1 second after hitting the boost
what the fuck Sonic Team
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>>387452239
>people who like something i dont like are ironic
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>>387466183

What piss taking has SoA taken at Infinite?
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>>387454235
>Roids
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>>387466829

That picture reminds me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQMEAh5rhsc
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>>387454996
Holy fuck how does no one (barring Taxman) in the industry know how to make a good sonic game
It should be blatantly obvious
WHO SUCKS THIS BAD AT TRAIL AND ERROR
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>>387466361
Blue board anon. Go rule 34 or something for your jollys.
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>>387455754
And this is exactly why the Japanese are very, very smart people. You ugly fat dog shit westerners in a pathetic attempt, TRY and ridicule it, but honestly you idiots just look pants-on-head retarded. You're so fucking delusional and detached from reality. You think you're smart but you're really not. You're fucking stupid.
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>>387456132
>even mania was being called a massive blunder on release day.
did you hit your head?
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/v/ sings theme of infinite when
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>>387467350
I'd rather not see a bunch of fat autistic NEETs ruin a good Sonic song, thanks.
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>>387448149
Its not Sonic Unleashed 2 so its bad.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ZT9CG7OWM
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>>387455708
Sonic Boom does it
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>>387467075
>You're fucking stupid
>responds to a three hour old post
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>>387459354
Nice to see people liking Park Avenue's theme. It's probably the one with the best cheese, it reminds me of Sonic R's soundtrack.
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>>387462498
>the worst
Wait. This is the game? For the first half, I thought it was a cheap but fairly dedicated fan game.
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>>387454139
I mean it looks alright but after playing Mania is like

"no"
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>>387457178
After 06, Sonic Team took the wrong idea when people said "We don't want Sonic friends"

Why do you think we had the Werehog and then a bunch of solo Sonic games? Why do you think they need to scrap Classic Sonic again?

They got the wrong idea. People wanted something like in Mania with Tails & Knuckles but ST took it as "Sonic's friends are not playable. EVER" which forces them to make this alt. Sonics just to pad.
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>"before I say good bye to you"
>"one more last Fist Bump"
>the early instrumental ended on a somber note
the avatar's gonna fucking die or something, aren't they
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>>387468593
Nitpicking at its max, but am i the only one who doesn't like that of the lyrics?

The instrumental? Great. the cheesy-ass lyrics? A-ok with it.

But after names like "Live and Learn", "Open Your Heart", Endless Possibilities", "Reach for the Stars" which are implemented very well within the lyrics, you are making the peak of the chorus about a fucking Fist Bump? It even feels forced WITHIN the music itself.

You'd imagine imagine you'd name and implement into the lyrics the theme of your fucking game about two Forces fighting.
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>The best Sonic game in 15 years wasn't made by Sonic Team

How ironic.
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>>387464794
He learnt something Alright. He's gonna tease sonic into liking anther human chick, then have tails cuck him and get a kiss from said chick.
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>>387468593
>Random civilian finds the Phantom Ruby
>Phantom Ruby splits in half
>Their good and evil side splits
>The good becomes your oc
>The bad becomes infinite

>Game ends with the oc being absorbed into the ruby with infinite
>They're banished to mania's dimension
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>>387468868
The thing about those other songs is that they can be listened to fairly well and independently of their games. Reach for the Stars and Endless Possibilities tie more into their games than Open Your Heart and Live and Learn, but then the latter two fit right in with Crush 40's Nascar stuff; the songs fit in casual and story context and yet aren't tonedeaf to themselves.

Fist Bump is so excessively cheesy because it's specifically talking about and relating solely to the game, ontop of the lyrics feeling like they were written well after the actual song and instrumental was made. It's literally singing about you and Sonic saving the day together, which just comes off as forced. And the title drop is as awkward as you mention it to be.
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>>387468232
It's not even close to Sonic R though.

LIVING IN THE CITY

YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO SURVIVE

LIVING IN THE CITY

YOU'VE GOT THE KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE
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>>387469190
>It's literally singing about you and Sonic saving the day together, which just comes off as forced.

funny enough, I'd be entirely ok with that, but the fact that the Fist Bump part is suppose to be the emphasised bit irks me. And I guess you also hit it big before; It really feels like the lyrics came WAY after the theme was made, which I never really felt with any previous Sonic theme.

Even His World felt like their lyrics were made alongside its music.
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>>387466136
is good
is good asully
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>>387469330
In all fairness, its super hard to top the level of delicious cheese that its Sonic R's OST.
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>>387461983
Was Mania really down to SoA? I know Iizuka said he was surprised by the uproariously positive reception the game got upon reveal. I don't think he meant that in a negative way but he was probably expecting the sort of reaction people give to a New Super Mario Bros game. It's pretty fucking crazy that they actually thought they were already giving us classic style gameplay just by having a 2D play style in a couple games.
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After seeing Mania's True Ending, yes
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>>387464568
The localizers are going to save the living shit out of the script by actually giving Sonic and friends some decent banter.
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>we'll never get the distinct guitar level themes and style of Jun Senoue again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEc_W_VDRKA
>this theme is from Crush 40's first CD before they were even Crush 40 via renaming their band, but sounds like a character / cutscene theme straight out of the Adventure era
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>>387467075
> You're fucking stupid.

I have a PhD and an QI of 189, kid. All you said is rubbish, but go ahead and keep believing you have any piece of a developed brain inside your head.
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>>387469703
>le colors writers are good XD the bants bro its hella epic

go back to neofag
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>>387469703
Personally I'm glad its the Colors/LostWorld guys in localization and not writing from scratch.

Colors' script was localization while Lost World's script was written entirely by them and personally the latter was the worst.
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>can't make an eggrobo character
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>>387461983
That was 20 years ago, and Iizuka and Sonic Team are in America, Sonic never really took off in Japan like they hoped. Sega of Japan I think focuses on Puyo Puyo, Yakuza, and Miku and generally lets Sega of America handle Sonic these days since that's their heavy hitter for international markets.
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>>387469607
Mania Sonic is going to a game that needs him, but doesn't deserve him.
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>>387469808
>QI
If you were smart you'd never of responded to him.
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>>387448149
citizens of the internet! im making sonichu and will have a blast. Just like when i played Jesus in tony hawk's games (with the character creation and shit)
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>>387469819
Yeah, take the grand scale storytelling, and give it character writing that while still having plenty of cheese, doesn't sound like it's animatronic.
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>>387469808
>He's such a pathetic loser he LARPs on 4chan
I know you can't do much with your pea-sized literal shit-for-brain, but pretending only makes it worse for yourself. It's better for you if you stop, trust me.
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>>387470521
shut up and order your clobbering you big robot fish x3

ahhhh im so glad we moved away from that ebil edge that once infected my sonikku...this is much better hes just a blue hedgehog! haha best boss evar!
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>>387448149
I'm interested enough to see what else the game has. It can't just be green hill zone and dystopian city. I'll grant Sonic Team this, they can come up with pretty interesting environments and set pieces still.
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>>387469752
That beginning with the drums sounds like the beginning of Rail Canyon
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>>387466569
>3 years in development
Thats a lie and you know it.
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>>387467740
>Good
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>>387467321
No there were actually threads about it being "bad". But then immeaditly everyone would shit on them for their horrible bait.
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>>387462339
Can't they just add more 3D sections.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6uqp_mr98

"The little blue savior... but what's that I smell?"
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>>387471273
Guitars sound badass, vocals sound great and lyrics are well written. You're a deluded retard if you don't think it's good lmaooo
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>>387462642
Generations isn't a 3D sonic game.
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>>387470923
Yeah, I'll take that over what we had. I can shrug off the cringier bits because Sonic is ultimately a mascot for kids, rather than just being confused as to what kind of manchild this other shit is aimed at.
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>>387454139
SEGA Hire me please I swear I can design level at least better than that. Hell it's one dimensional as fuck like you'd expect from modern sanic game.
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>>387454139
If there's one thing Forces will have over Mania, it's probably that there isn't an archaic time limit to every level.

Maybe if the levels in Mania had nothing and all you were supposed to do was go from start to finish, this wouldn't be an issue, but from my understanding, there are secret areas you need to explore to find so the time limit is conflicting game design.
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