STEAM GOING FULL KIKE

>>387419575
I doubt they'd jew a charity.

I mean, I assume they wouldn't be dumb enough to do that. It's entire possible, but I REALLY doubt they'd jew a charity.

>>387419696
You can't be charitable if it fucks you over in the long run

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>>387419575

>>387419575
>going

>>387419575
Gabe could personally take a shit on every Steam user's computer and Valve would still maintain a near monopoly on digital distribution for PC. I can't think of anything short of a mass loss of account data or hacking scandal that would sink Steam.

bundle sites have a different deal with valve than regular developers do

don't worry, humble bundle will be fine

>>387419575
Card farmers btfo.

>>387419575
Games in indie bundles are usually what, two years?
The point is to not resell keys during game's prime time.

>>387419829
Shalom Gaben

>>387419696
>charity
That's the thing, there's no way they'd fuck with HB, the backlash would be insane, and they've been one of their oldest bundle partners. HB usually features AAA games and higher-quality indie games, this is probably a measure for shitty me-too bundle companies that wrap Greenlight shit into $2-3 bundles and call it good, like these:

https://www.indiegala.com/crystalanime
https://www.indiegala.com/monday
https://www.indiegala.com/twinkly
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/dollar-dojo-bundle
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/dollar-rage-bundle
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/promotions/mega-pick-mix-bundle-5

Honestly I don't care, 90% of the retards that use Humble Bundle it's just to get *cheap* games they are never going to play. If you are one of those faggots with 300+ games on Steam and only about 40 played chances are you feed the Humble Bundle jew

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>>387419575
This is once again about combating asset flippers. Valve can fix so many of their problems with one word - curation. Why they refuse to do so remains beyond me.

>>387419575
So this just targets scam developers who pump out hundreds of thousands of keys for a non game purely for people to generate trading cards for the game?

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>>387419575
just make a new steam op

>>387419575
>valve gets A CUT on 1% of sales
>"FUCKING JEWS REEE"

>garbage game with 1000 sales asks for 100k keys
>all these people stress valves servers but don't actually contribute

>all you faggots wanting to penny-pinch
>calling Valve a jew
yeah okay

>>387419575
source?

>>387419575
Where's the problem?

What other bundle sites, op?

>>387419575
>RIP humble bundle and every other bundle site
what
my ass
they are just moving forward against scummy devs, that gift 500K keys to mine card money

What the fuck is up with this Valve defense force in this thread?
You disgust me, nu/v/. Back in my day your shilling would be ridiculed.

How's Kingsway and West of loathing

>>387421212
Kill yourself sonybro

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>>387419575
Humble Bundle is cancer. I hope GabeN Jews them good.

>>387419575
This seems more like it affects developers than consumers

>>387420282
I wish at least one of humble bundle's competitors offered bundles of a similar quality
bundle stars has some good ones occasionally but it's mostly the kind of garbage you linked to

>>387421212
>Valve defense force
normalfags who cant pirate also spics and slavs. basically only subhumans defend valve.

>>387419575
provide a source you faggot

>>387419575
>costs

What costs? Their entire money making machine is pretty much fully automated. They shit out a bunch of keys and the only "costs" they have are the download which is fucking nothing compared to what they make.

How much of a jew can one man be?

>>387421293
Those are the charities Humble Bundle is donating to? I thought it was something worthwhile.

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>>387420443
I used to buy every humble bundle and most games were at least good enough to finish as long as you're open minded about genres. Can't say the same about monthly bundles

>>387421580
>the only "costs" they have are the download which is fucking nothing compared to what they make.
did you get your business knowledge from /biz/?

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>>387420443
This.
If you just want to play games cheapely, you pirate them.
If you want to support the devs, you buy at the pages they get the biggest cut (not steam), at full price.

If you buy games only in sales you are both a moron and an asshole.

>>387421608
Charities change depending on the bundle, usually according to the bundle "theme" too. There's also sliders to alter how much money goes to what charity.

>>387421608
no, your money goes to helping disgusting wastes of human space like trannies and fags

>>387421764
so it's better to give devs no money than a little money? great logic there faggot

>>387420443

Most of the time it's cheaper to buy a HB deal with a game you want to play in it than buy the game solo on Steam.

>>387419575
bundle sites have the all-clear with steam, they even work together on key distribution or what games they should put in their bundle. that post is talking about how some developers are taking keys and putting them up for sale on other sites so they can reap the full sale price without having to give a cut to valve since it's technically not being done on steam.
>dude haha how can a bunch of numbers be costing valve any money haha dude
very few people understand the amount of processing power it takes to generate a unique, secure string of a finite amount of characters and to then repeat the process up to several million times without compromise or error.

>>387421854
common anon, no need for hate speech.

>>387421714
Go ahead smart guy. Lists all their costs. Their "support" is about 3 people max. They make money just by existing since they don't really have to do anything for their stuff to sell since they are the only major game in town. He keeps their workers down to absurdly low amounts for an operation this big because it literally doesn't need them. All his money goes into burgers and fries and a few R&D projects that aren't truly necessary and most of which have failed miserably.

But go ahead. Show how smart you are and prove me wrong.

>>387420443
People who use humble bundle are people who don't know how to just fucking pirate the games.

>>387421714
/biz/ told me to invest in the yuan.
Now, I'm making 300K a week. Why don't you get your business advice from /biz/?

>>387421965
>dude haha how can a bunch of numbers be costing valve any money haha dude

Is that the cost? I thought it was gonna be bandwith and hosting costs, essentially using steam as the warehouse for easy distribution and other benefits of the platform.

>>387420680
Wha? Valve gets a 30% cut. Keys probably do not fall under that cut, so they are mad

>>387422068
I do, I do the complete opposite of what /biz/ tells me and I'm making a bank

>>387422027
You'll never get successfull at business anon if you let yourself be exploited like that just because you have loads of money in the bank.

Forward thinking is what keeps one afloat

>>387422152
Yes which is what I said. They get the cut (now I know 30%), on the 1% that is sold on steam.

>>387421608
humble bundle doesn't give a shit what the charity is or how good it actually is, they just grab whatever will fit the bundle theme the most.
Look at that shit, are those really something that needs fucking handouts?

>>387421976
>>>/r/eddit

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>>387422068
>mfw followed carreer advice from /sci/

>>387422337
>>>/pol/

>>387419575
Finally something good from Valve. These shitty devs and their scam indie games need to go.

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>>387422337
Anon please, gays and tranies are people too, be understanding of other human beings

>>387421293
>Instead of coding to sell games, women are paid to code games

>>387422291

It's the type of charity the people who would want to buy those games would donate to.

>>387421608
>not selecting child's play in the dragdown options

>>387422482
>men code for free and get paid when the game sells.

What a shitty deal.

>>387420443
I have 300+ games and according to steam I only played like half of them. I only bought maybe 10 bundles or so. I actually have no idea where the fuck do these other games come from

>>387421764
>>387420443
>le cucked newfags saying "IT WAS ALWAYS SHIT YOU SHOULD ACCEPT THIS NEW SHIT"

nah you're cucked plebs worshipping cancer drm platform progressively getting worse over the years

>>387422557
That's how it used to be

>>387420443
wow, do you hate charity?

People buying bundles are retards. Most of the "games" there are trash you will never play. Unless you masturbate to the number of games in your Steam library, simply buying the shit you actually want to play on G2A is cheaper.

>>387422473
hang yourself fag

>>387422473
>Pumping yourself full of artificial hormones and castrating yourself is human
Anon, pls.

>>387422712
good thing i only buy humble bundles to support charity and indie devs then
im not sure how many games i own affects you

>>387422658
>le cucked newfags

>>387422473
>tranies are people too
People that deserve to go to gulag

>>387422556
fuck kids, i mostly go for some vet supporting one

>>387422817
>Forgoing human companionship and substituting it with video games and Japanese child pornography is human

>>387422779
But i'm straight anon, ask your wife

>>387422909
underage leave

>>387420443
>Pay $10 for a $30 game and 5 other indie ones
>Play the one you wanted
>Money goes to charity
>Somehow a bad thing
Humble quality has gone downhill though

>>387419575
This is perfectly acceptable I can't see why anyone would think this is kikery

>>387422909
>>387422943
>28 second reply
btfo

>>387422901
>Forgoing life and posting on an anonymous message board is human

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>>387422871
>fuck kids
ok

>we are bearing the costs
what costs???

>>387420013
>digital
If only physical would mean anything. Sadly it's just
>add this code from your box to your steam library

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>>387423013
Damn right

>>387423132
>steam servers are free

>>387422943
Anon, your fag hate is concerning us. Please get it off the chest.

>>387419575
>
Trying to retain the quality of games on steam = full kike

Yea no youre wrong

What are some charities that aren't scam? MSF appears to have the least "overhead" on management and have transparent financing, but they're mostly wasted on niggers and kebabs.

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>>387422712
Early bundles had almost no bad games

>>387423140
this is why when i can i buy the games i want from gog and back them up on a external drive

Been waiting all summer for Dark Souls PTDE sale.

>>387421965
>>very few people understand the amount of processing power it takes to generate a unique, secure string of a finite amount of characters and to then repeat the process up to several million times without compromise or error.

Are you on fucking drugs?

>>387423191
but my game is selling on steam???

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>>387419575
What game is he refering to here?

>>387421108
>>387421548
Not OP but that's from the private Steamworks Dev forum. You can pay the $100 Direct fee to check if it's legit.

>>387423215
msf is literal scam tier
I personally like special effect, but mostly because it is vidya related. I don't know how much of the money actually goes through.

>>387423309
What if it isn't selling on steam, but elsewhere, but steam servers are used to download those games.

common anon, its not hard.

>>387423309
Read the OP image again, if he is selling them outside of steam for cheaper then valve doesn't get a cut of the money.

>>387420752
>salvation army stands outside walmart asking for donations
>doesn't buy anything from walmart and usually takes money directly from walmart by taking donations from customers before buying anything - the customer could have used that money to buy something instead of donate
>All these salvation army leeches stress Walmart's bottom line and hurt the business, never actually contribute
Yeah, why the fuck don't companies ban these faggots? Them and the girlscouts. Fuck em.

>>387419575
>steam isn't giving out their money for free
>WHAT THE FUCK REE THE FUCKING JEWS I NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROFIT USING YOUR RESOURCES STEAM AT NO COST TO MYSELF FUCKING JEEEWS

>>387423418
what exactly is my game publishing fee going towards then?

>>387421714
Valve has the highest profit to employee ratio of any company in history. And they still constantly enact anti-consumer policies like these under the guise of not making enough money. Fuck them.

>>387423309
You're a retard who doesn't even read before posting. They are talking about games that sell only a few copies on Steam but generate hundreds of thousands of keys. They are clearly cheating the system. This isn't about having your game on Humble Bundle.

>>387423505
Do any other companies do this? If you're a farmer selling milk to stop and shop, do they threaten to remove your product if they find out that you're also selling that same milk on a roadside stand or farmer's market and not giving them the money?

>>387423615
valves pockets. Its just to confirm you're not a bot.

>>387423683
This is not anti-consumer, this only has an effect on small developers who try to go around the steam fee while still selling steam keys

>>387423309
>>387423615
>This is the intelligence of your game developer on Steam.

>>387420282
>HB usually features AAA games and higher-quality indie games,
What year do you think this is?

>>387423683
>valve makes enough money so they should allow some people to bleed them just because they can xd

>>387423839
if you're giving them bad conditions they demand the same or pull off your product to look for better partners. so in short: yes, they do

>>387419575
Nothing wrong with this desu. They're abusing it to go around the steam tax and distribute keys to card farmers.

>>387419575
>be jew
>try to outjew Valve
>get fucked because Valve is max jew
gg no re

>>387421293
You know you can change who you support on humble bundle... right?

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>>387419575
post yfw you already own every game you cared for, created a huge backlog for cheap and buy games of GOG now

>>387423839
It's more like giving them tokens to get your milk from the store without paying the store owner, while using the store owner as a warehouse for basically free. You have the intelligence of a game developer lmao

>>387423921
The point is why the fuck are you trying to defend any decision that potentially hurts you as a consumer? Valve isn't your friend.

>>387423913
Meaning that we have to pay more by being forced to go through Steam when other sites frequently offer better prices. Anti-competition is anti-consumer.

>>387419575
can anyone spoonfeed me and explain to me how is this jewing?

for example
He is putting his game on steam for 40 bucks
Requests keys from steam
Sells them off site half of that

It looks like the steam does not want to get jewed

>>387423598
>say X services are free
>deny access to X services to customers who haven't payed enough money

I don't give a shit how Steam charges for their games/services, as long as they actually deliver on their promises.

The issue isn't that they want money. The issue is that they're lying. They're lying about what services are free. They're treating customers differently because of a secret ranking system. And these decisions are being made at random by literal whos who can stop you from playing games that you payed money for.

Everyone scoffed at the people who said "what happens when Steam goes under and those licences you bought don't work any more", "what do you do when Steam decides to rob you of your library of games", etc. Well, now we're living in that reality.

>>387423839
That's a terrible analogy you mouthbreather

>>387423839
worst analogy of all time award

>>387424160
See >>387424140 This hurts competition by discouraging use of or outright banning other sites. Anti-competition is anti-consumer.

>>387424054
>buy games
do what now?

>>387424140
They are still free to sell their game cheaper on other websites, they just can't do it with Steam keys. Nothing is stopping them from selling their game on Steam and DRM-free on another website

>>387424160
Downloads, community features and stuff still run over Valves servers, so they're paying for his shit while not getting a cut off the sales because he's selling the keys on some other site

>>387423576
You do know that Salvation Army/Girl Scouts/Charities and so on first have to make an agreement with the Walmart stores to get permission to solicate donations iutside right? And that by allowing them to do that Walmart gets a tax write off right and that its not hurting their bottom line at all

>>387421293
the definition of entitled cunts

>>387424206
How is this related to the context of the thread

>>387424160
Then stop accepting steam keys if it's that much of a problem. Or lock it behind a subscription-based service. Or sue the people who are abusing the system.

What you DON'T do is lie to your customers and discriminate against them because someone else is jewing you.

>>387424160
It's like using steam for free hosting service. You get all the benefits and avoid paying the steam tax, valve doesn't want that.

>>387423576
are you underage?

>>387424206
what the hell are you talking about?

>>387422152
>Valve gets a 30% cut
Valves percentage is and always was variable.
Bethesda, EA or ubisoft never paid 30%.

>>387424206
Pretty sure this is referring to devs, not consumers. We're not "living in that reality" just because a Valve employee made a vaguely threatening comment towards bargain bin devs that sell their shit games in shit bundles to make money off cards and backgrounds and shit. You're blowing this a bit out of proportion

>>387424160
>>387424402
I also realized that you realized this yourself and I misread your post

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>>387422473
You wish, faggot.

>>387424206
>devs
>customers
'no'

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/v/ constantly amazes with their idiocy. There are problems with Steam. This isn't one.

>>387423920
sick meme
i, too, hate everything because it's perpetually terrible in every conceivable fashion

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>>387424605
Don't bully the fags anon, what if it was your dad or son?!

>>387421764
>moron and an asshole
Consumers doing what is in their best interest and waiting for sales is now moronic. K.

>>387424140
There is absolutely nothing stopping them from selling their game anywhere, the developers will have to roll out their own way to process payments and provide downloads though. This is simply owners of the system are opposed to people exploiting their system, this is nothing new or unusual.

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>>387423839
No, but if a farmer asked a marketplace to pay for the bottling of 500 bottles of milk, but then the farmer only sells a dozen bottles of milk through that store, you bet your ass he's gonna get confronted about it.

>>387421764
>If you want to support the devs, you buy at the pages they get the biggest cut (not steam), at full price.
We know volvo take 30%, how much do other sites take?

>>387424140
how does this decision hurt me in any way? Do you even understand what is happening?

>>387422473
>tranies are people
no they are human trash
but at least they kill themselves fast enough

>>387424676
Devs are absolutely customers. I guess client might be a better word, but it's the same thing. They pay money to get on Steam and they pay a cut of the sale. They are paying money to use a service, which is the definition of customer. They are a different type of customer than the ones that only buy games, but they're customers.

>>387424952
>they pay a cut of the sale
That's the problem though, they're trying to abuse the system to avoid paying their cut and Valve doesn't like that

>>387424952
No, they're business associates
Try again

>>387424928
Is it as fast as the male population?

>>387424734
Your comment makes sense because I already know you're delusional if you think HB today is what it once was.

>>387425067
Most of them are male.

Instead of giving the devs free keys, charge them 30%(the cut they normally get from a sale) per key, problem solved.

>>387424952
They're benefitting from Valve's massive server farms. They're contracting valve to carry their games on their servers so they don't have to. If they're then trying to do an end run around that agreement and keep their total sales then the dev is being a fucking twat.

They don't need to use steam for 100% of their sales. They can put their title in Steam for the exposure and also sell steam free versions on their own site (but then they'd have to shoulder the solution for the downloads).

>>387425178
Us and trannies are so alike it seems.

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>>387421293
That one pissed me off. They didnt get a penny

>>387422817
>Pumping yourself full of artificial hormones and castrating yourself is human
Thanks for realizing that we are in fact human.

>>387421242
Kingsway is good but very easy without hardmode (you can easily purchase it in one good run)

>>387421764
>why won't you just pay full price
>you're a moron and an asshole if you buy my game on sale
>BUY MY GAME
>PAY MY MEDICAL BILLS
Suck a shotgun you faggot

Yet again, I'm not entirely sure what the problem is here.

>>387422473
haha you wish

>>387421764
Eat a dick, nobody's holding devs at a gunpoint and forces them to go on a sale or participate in humble bundle or whatever. They do if they think it's good for them.

>>387425945
Op is an alarmist dev that wants to use steam as a download site without paying steam tax.

>>387425945
Teenagers being upset that Valve is a business

>>387425945
Apparently not tolerating people trying to abuse your service is jew and anticonsumer nowadays.

Doesn't even affect me as consumer. Couldn't care less.

>>387421293
You literally get to choose which charity you give your money to. Don't be a baby.

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>>387421293
>Not supporting qt traps

>>387426440
>trap
That's just a tranny.

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>>387426440
image unrelated no?

>>387426440
>Implying he won't regret poor life choices in 5 or 10 years and cry himself to sleep

>>387423218
i bought humble bundle 3 and only liked and yet it moves.

>>387426640
So no diffrent than the rest of us, but just in a dress.

>>387423196
>le projection meme
Homosexuals need to project their unnatural (and it is unnatural because there's no chance of reproduction) lifestyle onto people criticizing them

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>>387421293
There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with any of those charities

>>387422664
no

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>>387419829

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>>387422473
Don't worry anon. I know you're right at least.

>>387419575
>bearing the costs
Get the fuck out, what costs? It's all digital

>>387426959
So no reason for you to be upset, your fair lady will be left untouched. Her vagina is safeguarded with all the fagness around.

>>387419575
>sell a few thousand
>ask for a half a million in activation
My bet is humblebundle is one of those charities skimming off the top of the stack and probably reselling excess keys to third parties at a premium to their profit margins.
Every charity has a "staff cost"

>>387427104
>Whole town shits in your toilet.
>You have to pay for water, cleaning and toilet paper.

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>>387422473
>>387422473
I wouldn't even hate trannies and faggots if not for the fact that EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of them I have met in real life was a far left, patriarchy hating, capitalism hating, social just loving, feminism loving piece of shit. If they were just normal people who happen to like dicks or cut theirs off I wouldn't mind them but literally 100% of them I met are pieces of shit who also turned their sexuality into their lifestyle.

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As someone with over 1000 games on Steam, I'll say this bluntly. If Valve pushes too far, I'll abandon ship. There is no illusion of sunk cost and investment being too great to walk away for me. I don't gamble with keys and crates or put any value in shiny pixels. Because I'm not an idiot.

I may be trash, but at least I'm not stupid.

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>>387427408
>over 1000 games on Steam
>at least I'm not stupid.

you're a funny guy

>>387427296
All the blacks i met in real life were really nice people and were well educated and mannered with nice british accents. 100% of blacks are law abiding orderly people.

I just don't understand this nigger hate we see these days.

Now pakis, theyre fucking human garbage.

>>387423002
>forgoing life [...] is human

>>387427552
I tried to be legit. Also, bundles.

>>387426959
Define unnatural. Homosexuality occurs in nature, therefore it is not unnatural by any definition I've heard.

>>387427656
Genetic defects are not exclusive to humans.

>>387427408
>Because I'm not an idiot.
they already made bank with you, stupid.

>>387419575
Please, no Antisemitism. It might get 4chan shut down.

>>387427721
I didn't ask about genetic defects. I asked you to define 'unnatural' as you are using it.

>>387427808
Fuck off kike

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This doesn't make sense. Valve actually makes devs pay for
keys these days. That's why a lot of them won't give you Steam keys if you bought the game from their website or a physical copy.

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>>387419829
This. Gabe wants to be the Rabbi of the rebuilt Jerusalem Temple.

>>387427721
>genetic defects
>not the most natural thing there is

What do you expect from a company that tried to Jew our High Court when they got fined about 3 million bucks for not providing refunds (at the time of the lawsuit) by saying "we don't agree with your decision so $250,000 should suffice". They also had the gall to say they're not technically selling to us as well. Surprised that they haven't gone after Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo yet, they really should. That many shitty games I've got that are glitchy as all hell but Sony just goes NOPE YOU'VE ALREADY DOWNLOADED IT LOL

>>387427656
cannibalism and rape also occurs in nature

that response is shit

If you sell thousands of your games off Steam but still don't know how to host your own games/game store then i'm glad you're getting fucked by Steam.

>>387426865
That's funny because it's the one I liked the least. VVVVVV, Hammerfight, Atom Zombie Smasher, Braid, Machinarium and Osmos are great games in my opinion, while Cogs and Crayon Physics are decent puzzle games

>>387420680
Actually Valve gets a bigger cut of sales than Sony or MS does. And Valve is doing nothing for this industry.

>>387427721
whats unnatural is being upset about a man that in no way can compete for passage of his own genes.

>>387427896
Every group of people has their own version of this.

We wuz kangz n sheit. We wuz vikangz n sheit. We wuz kang davidz n sheit.

It amuses me.

>>387419575
literally what is the problem here?

>>387428140
It's as shitty as the initial argument that it was UNnatural and therefore bad. That's the point.

>>387428140
So natural, unnatural is just a bunch of buzzwords. Good going champ

>>387420049
Card farming has gone out of favor, it's now about achievements

>>387427721
>implying genetics aren't nature
bruh

>>387428204
>Actually Valve gets a bigger cut of sales than Sony or MS does
Source

>>387424591
They publicly advertise free steam keys to devs. At least they used .

In private they negotiate differnet deals though. If you sell the game through your own website you aren't allowed to undercut Steam prices and you don't get free steam keys.

>>387427053
kawaii

>>387419575
I see nothing wrong with that post, this Sean J is absolutely correct.

>>387428438
>In private they negotiate differnet deals though.
Of course they do, they also have different deals depending on how big or important you are, that's pretty usual

>>387420573
Because then someone would have to work on it. They want everything as automatized as possible, and rather let consumers work things out on their own where that fails.

>>387428393
http://www.pcgamer.com/notch-on-why-minecraft-still-isnt-on-steam/

Fuck knows how much Sony and MS make but that kind of proves Valve takes 30%.

>>387419575
The way this is worded sounds like its a bunch of shovelware developers doing this, so rather than just improve Steam quality control, they want to do this shit?

>>387428703
>Fuck knows how much Sony and MS make
But that's the important part, everyone knows how much Steam takes, at least for regular-sized devs

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>>387419575
It makes sense, though. If you're using their service to distribute games, but sell the keys somewhere else, they don't profit from it. Steam is not a free hosting service.

>>387428716
Steams a joke and has been for years, if anyone else brought out a platform that had even 50% of the multiplats that come to steam I'd jump ship.

>>387428340
why? You don't get money for those.

What's even in the fuckin bundle that valve has to say they aren't selling enough of?

Battleborn?

>>387425165
HB was always shit, they only had a few really good bundles and that was it, monthly's are hit or miss.

>>387428974
I imagine it's not related to any bundles at all, an isolated individual case perhaps.

OP just added HB to pretend its a doomsday.

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Steam and Valve have been on a sharp decline for years. They used to screen submissions but now they take anything and everything. So while good games still make it to market, they're drowned out by 10 RPG Maker games a week.

Who gives a shit. When Steam finally dies other services will pick up the pieces.

>>387429456
>when steam dies
if valve eventually goes under, someone will buy the steam name and continue the service.

>>387419575
>ou want to generate digital keys?
>it will cost us money!
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
ah yes, digital keys are expensive

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>>387428167
Doesn't work that way. Gamers don't buy anything that is not on Steam. Period. Valve IS PC gaming.

>>387429456
There are already plenty of other services doing the same. Steam has alot more to offer than just game sales and it's hard to beat that without years of cultivation, even if other services were equivalent.

>>387429528
>What is cost of maintaining a server?

>>387428703
>>387428762
Does it matter what MS or Sony takes?

Notch and other indie devs proved that you can self distribute way cheaper than you can on Steam.
Self distributing probably costs 10% in payment service and server rental fees.

Why would anyone give a shit about nonsense like this? Steam isnt forced to work with anyone, like they dont allow any porn games on their platform.
Why aren't you crying your eyes out porn games are being jewed over by valve?

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>>387427556
They're really not that bad in Britain because mostly it was just the elite of their societies that made their way to the UK. Go to America, however, and you get some real savagery.

Anyone who says 100% of a race is bad is entirely wrong and are idiots. The only thing a race has in common is skin color. Ideology is more important in determining of someone is a piece of shit than race.

>>387429630
Well when most of the games aren't available anywhere else on PC, you can't blame them. But you then also have the fuckers who even if the game is on something like GoG would rather purchase it on Steam because they want everything in one place, even if it means paying more.

>>387429523
Just like WON... oh wait

>>387428778
So if you sell someting at Best Buy you can't sell it at GameStop? Valve already runs a monopoly.

>>387429692
>shit that has nothing to do with generating keys
you could generate 20 keys or 500k the cost of keeping the files up on some server are the same
>reee these 24 bytes keys sure cost a fuckton to maintain

That's just logical business
I thought that all Steam activable keys had a cost for the devs at a lower price of sorts. Now I see they're just selling through other means off Steam and the players just come in to download

>>387429856
you dont use bestbuy or gamestop to distribute games. you pay somebody else to make the disks and ship them to bestbuy and gamestop.

valve makes the keys
valve hosts the game download servers
valve hosts the community hub
game devs expect to take keys from valve, sell them somewhere else, give valve 0 money, and have people still use the valve provided download services and community hub

>>387429931
I love when 500k people download gigabytes of data off my server as it costs nothing.

>>387429746
The problem is down to the fact that a vast majority of people won't purchase a game on PC if they can't have it on Steam. We could get a better service drop tomorrow where the company takes like 5% profit instead of 30%, meaning the RRP is lower than Steam and people would still go and purchase it on steam because they all have stockholm syndrome.

>>387428340
you can activate any achievement on steam any time you want

Oh no cd key stealing shits like G2A are gonna finally be dealt with
STEAM HOW DARE YOU YOU EVIL JEWS

>>387430082
If this wasn't valve SAM users would of been banned years ago. Achievements have fuck all meaning on any platform but it's even more meaningless on steam, yet I'm still one of them faggots that attempts to 100% shit legit.

>>387423257
or just download from steam, and crack the game ffs.

>>387427156
HB isn't a charity, stupid, it's a business. they also have their own digital store so there's no reason they would transfer keys to another party, you don't get "premium" prices for dumping. if they did that they'd be selling keys for pennies on the dollar when they could be charging good money on their own store. also HB itself actually does have some degree of curation and won't normally host mass-giveaway garbage so it's not related to any of these crackdowns on asset-flipping card farms. sites like indiegala or bundlestars are more likely targets if you're assuming that bundle sites are on the hit list at all

>>387427296
>EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of them I have met in real life was a far left, patriarchy hating, capitalism hating, social just loving, feminism loving piece of shit.

Tranny here, I've never met a single other tranny in real life, and I fit this
>If they were just normal people who happen to like dicks
instead of the first one. Though I prefer dicks on girls personally. I don't really find masculinity attractive. I've wanted to be a girl all my life and I just want to be as feminine as I can so that hopefully I can live my life as a girl who just happens to have a penis between her legs.

>>387429845
So why did nobody intervene?

>>387429746
what other basement-tier indie dev accomplished anything of note without being on steam, xbl or psn?
what noteworthy accomplishment has notch managed outside of minecraft?
minecraft is an exceptional cherry pick that has nothing to do with the current reality of indie games. even j.blow believes that braid would have drowned in the modern marketplace and he's completely right

>>387429746
>Does it matter what MS or Sony takes?
Yes when it's the topic of discussion
>Notch and other indie devs proved that you can self distribute way cheaper than you can on Steam.
Sure, doesn't make Steam less of an attractive offer for many devs, especially when you consider the features it comes from, such as drm, clould, workshop integration and community features

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So what ? Stop using steam.

>using DRM in the first place
>giving MONEY to a DRM service
You did this to yourselves, retards.

>>387427296
I like capitalism and hate feminism though

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>thread about vidya
>turns into a /pol/ thread about traps
every fucking time

>>387430740
>Though I prefer dicks on girls personally.
first, girls can't have dicks. but even here, you'd be in the minority of boys pretending to be girls. most mtf that i've seen are still into girls with pussies (these are also more usually the ones that don't go through hrt+surgery) and i'm from a city with a high density of trannies in the population comparatively to other cities. despite most of them being in heterosexual relationships, they'll still claim genitals have nothing to do with sexuality. if you are a feminine male who likes feminine males, that's whatever, but don't make the world bend to your perceptions of yourself.

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>>387432779
Is it heterosexual when a mtf likes men or when they like women?

>>387421976
where do you think you are?

>>387433003
A place where people rile up other people, easily.

>>387432992
Females, they still have XY chromosomes.

>>387419829
This image would be a lot better if all 4 were actual quotes from Gabe. It would have more impact. Right now it's just an over exaggerated joke image made by a crybaby.

>>387433003
redditumblr

>>387433125
What if we're talking about futa with xx chromosomes. Futa aren't real but hypothetically speaking.

>>387430289
They're for yourself, not others. No one checks their friends' achievements

>>387433203
it does look like it's written by a jaded teenager.

>>387432992
it is heterosexual when there is dick in pussy relations. it's gay if a mtf dates a man. that's just two gay dudes who like to hide behind the appearance of being straight.

>>387433348
What if there's no dick.

>>387433407
gay

>>387432779
I like girls with vaginas and girls with dicks.

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>>387426962
>There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with any of those charities

Oh sweetie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvZzVQ3iAak

>>387433504
congrats, you're bi. you like cock n balls and pussy. you're more attracted to feminine personalities. there are no girls with dicks.

>>387433504
Important question:
2D or 3D ?

is this thread devolved into trap arguments or is it still slightly on topic.

Here's an idea: Valve could implement some sort of filter, to prevent shitty games with shitty scammer devs from putting their games on steam, that way they can't ask for 500k steam keys to redistribute to other sites or whatever the issue is.

>>387433523
Why are you posting unrelated video about a looney?

>>387434057
What type of filter?

>>387434042
>tiny bulge
only good trap is a trap with an enormous schlong.

>>387434167
that's gay negro

>>387434167
Thats called a shemale anon

>>387434167
Good thing mine's big I guess.

>>387422473
So you are telling me I should love people, treat them with respect and dignity, just because they are a human? They don't actually have to convince me of being deserving of this treatment? Are you saying you love both Trump and Hillary unquestionably? That sounds like utter bullshit and would destroy society in practice, because people naturally have conflicts of interest.

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>>387421293
>Women Who CODE
>Girl Make Games
PFFFTBWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*Remembers about Mass Effect Andromenda*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>387419575
>STEAM GOING FULL KIKE

Is it 2005 again?

>>387432107
Oi what's this from, saw the whole thing before and never found source.

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>>387434042
>>387434237
>Most traps are whites and have small d.
Really makes my almonds taste different

>>387429849
I am forced to buy games from Steam because they are the only one who use Turkish Lira currency. For example Pillars of Eternity is 65 lira in Steam while it's fucking 160 lira in GOG. I guess it's the same in Russia and South America countries, Steam is much cheaper.

>>387434302
Nobody said that anon, are you feeling alright? You may be having a fever. You're making statements and then refute them yourself in the same post.

>>387427883
>Valve actually makes devs pay for
keys these days
Dev here. No they do not.

>>387434534
their dick get smaller when they take their gender changing meds.

>>387419575
>I think a company that tries to stay solvent is bad
>how do I make a dollar?
>what is basic economics?

>>387434557
>while it's fucking 160 lira in GOG.
Based polacks.

>>387434564
So why should we tip toe around trannies and worship and support them at every opportunity ? Why do they deserve more or equal love than anyone else?

>>387434534
most legit traps are actually south east asian or south american

>>387434534
But I'm >>387434295 >>387434042 >>387433504 >>387430740 white and I have a big d and I like video games and anime with huge tiddied half naked or completely naked girls. Bonus points if the huge tiddies thicc (no, not fat, thicc) girls have dicks too.

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>>387434675
N-Nani?
>Gender changing ""MEDS""
I wonder if SJW give some of these to their kids

>>387428259

We wuz aztecs n sheit.

>>387434932
Is it time to post Chris-chans taint as proof trannies are mentally ill again?

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>>387419575
>STEAM GOING FULL KIKE
>GOING

dude, where have you been? don't you remember anything? paid mods was a real thing. they really thought, that they could go through with it!

>>387419696
Ceasing to give keys to devs for whatever reason would hardly configure as a jewing, it's their infrastructure that is being exploited if too much activations come from keys instead of purchases, and it hurts the devs too unless they are literally exploiting the system to bypass the Steam cut, which is the most obvious reason they would deny them in the first place.

HB is going to be affected, but no in a bad way, we are going to see a lot less shitty games that cant sell, but its still going to get keys from the more succesful devs.

In other words they couldnt fuck with HB unless they stopped giving keys completely, and if they do, they couldn't be implicated in anything at all because lets be real, they arent obligated to give shit for free to anyone.

>>387429331
Every jumbo and Humble Indie Bundle was good. That was two straight years of good bundles.

Faggot.

>>387424160
Valve doesn't give a shit they do that. What's the issue are games that have 1% of redeemed keys out of a few hundred thousand area sold through Steam and are continuing to generating more keys.

Basically shit bundles are going to die. You can buy shit bundles of 20 games for $1.

>>387434237
im attracted to dicks and pussies, sue me.

>>387434294
trap, shemale, tranny. all terms used to describe the same thing, men pretending to be women. distinction between which epithet used is useless.

>>387434872
girls can't have dicks. "THICC" girls are usually just fat. stop deluding yourself.

>>387426105
This
Any Call of Duty takes at least 2 years to see a discount

>>387434430
Goosh Goosh from Tokyo Tribes

do you actually think valve is going to give people 50 thousand keys so they can sell them on their own storefront and avoid giving valve any money at all

>>387435246
>girls can't have dicks. "THICC" girls are usually just fat. stop deluding yourself.
Good thing I said video games and anime, right?

>>387431037
I think it's called bystander effect

>>387429845
Context of webm?

>>387419696
maybe back in the early day when it was about promoting smaller games, linux and being drm free.

>>387429845
Oh what Zoo exhibition was this? I do enjoy watching chimps and their territorial disputes. Let me guess, someone stole a watermelon or banana?

>>387424140
Not anti-competition, developers can still sell their game elsewhere. They just cant sell steam keys for their game outside of stea.. Key word STEAM keys.

>>387427296
I always felt like this is because the only ones who'd you'd be aware are trannies are ones who make the fact they are into a huge deal which normally results from them belonging to that group. The rest kinda just keep to themselves

>>387436350
I saw a tranny the other day. Tall, fat, deep voice, looked like a man in a dress. He blabbered on loudly craving attention.

>>387436428
Chances are they're probably a libfag like the rest

>>387436482
Most conservatives are not closet fags but are people that are comfortable in their own bodies and dont need to join a hivemind to feel important.

>>387427883
why do you talk about things you don't fucking know anything about t.dev

>>387426440
This is a man.
>>387426631
This is a wo(man).

>>387426285
If they they were the size of origin no one would care but now steam its a giant that get installed on virtually every gaming pc.

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Where does all this steam hate come from? I've used steam for a decade and never ever had a problem of not being able to play my games. Even if I'm at my cabin for the week sans internet all my games still run.

Fast downloads, deals on everything, big library, works with other platforms like uplay and rockstar games.

>>387436594
Yeah I agree. Only not lib tranny I knew was full on ancap but I only found out that by accident

>>387436835
/v/ is Nintendo territory, with the occasional Sony colony thread. You can guess why people are butthurt over Steam. Just take PUBG for example, you can't have a thread without massive shitposting.

>>387436835
People are wary about them because, like any business, they're in it for the money first. Don't forget the issue with paid mods and how sloppily handled that was, and how we had to actively fight for the right to refund our games. I don't think they're a terrible company, but they can be lazy and this leads to sloppy work on their end.

Good goyim.

>>387420573
They should really just split the store, one for AAA titles and curated smaller titles, and then a cesspool where any chump and his mom can put their garbage up for sale with less support and a higher cut for Valve.

>>387421242
West of Loathing's pretty decent