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I've always wanted to try out the Resident Evil games, and I figured I might as well start from the very beginning.

Just one question before I start with my playthrough of the RE series: are the HD remake and 0 that are up on Steam actually good or should I go with emulation?
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They are the best ports so no worries there.

Play Remake first because zero is pretty rough.
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Play the originals via mednafen/beetle psx
The HD remakes are okay, they're just not as scary or interesting. Also it will be super jarring when if you jump from RE1HD to RE2.
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>>387399872

Not as scary? How's that?
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Don't let /v/ fool you into playing 0, it's shit through and through.
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>>387399978
The graphics are gorgeous and ornate instead of gritty and ugly.
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>>387400116
>>387400246

I - uhh - what?
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>>387399770
Play 1 to 3 first their perfect RE games.
Play CV but be warned is has flaws that hold it back in many ways.
Play Zero but know it is very hard at times and has some annoying gameplay elements.
4 is fantastic and love by almost everyone but it is a massive change from the classic RE.
5 is where things start to go down hill as it has the worst A.i companion I've ever seen and is just RE4 done worse.
6 is a train wreak that is hardly even an RE game. feels more like COD or Gear of war. i hated that game and is the only RE I never finished.
Revelations 1 and 2 are fun little side games but have their flaws.
And RE7 kind of saved the franchise for me It kind of goes back to its roots only in first person. just know its pretty short.

That's my list.
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RE: HD > RE2 > RE3 > RE4
In that order. What you play after doesn't matter.
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>>387400116
the lack of color sucks but the ornate look adds a lot to the atmosphere
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Speaking of RE4, when is that HD remake supposed to be done? Is there an estimate?
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>>387399770

Play RE1-3 on PC. Pirate them. PC versions are the best. RE1 PC is super hard to get setup though. Then Play Remake HD on PC. Then RE4.

After that, you've played the essentials. You can pick up what other games to play next. RE5-6 aren't too bad, but man are they forgettable AAA nonsense. Dead Aim is better than it should be. Code Veronica is meh, but if you liked 1-3 it's more of the same. The Wii shooters are decent. Revelations series is nice. I'm trying to think of the rest of the spin offs.
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>>387399770

OP this >>387399990

Start with either REmake or the original RE1. REmake is vastly superior but RE1 is excellent in it's own way. You won't feel nostalgia for RE1 so start with REmake.
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R3make fucking when
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>>387399872
The original RE has garbage controls because of no auto aim.
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>want to buy RE4 on Steam
>is low violence
Fuck this.
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>>387400507
He will burn out fast if he plays RE1 and Remake back to back. Remakeis a great entry point and after he's done with the mainline series he can always go back.
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>>387399770
REmake
RE2 Claire A Leon B
RE3
RECV
RE4
RE5

Order doesn't matter here:
RE6 if you want
RE revelations 2 if you're not burned out
RE7 if you want
RE Revelations 1 if you want
RE1 if you're curious
RE0 if you want

>>387400586
Director's cut has auto aim.
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>>387400498

>mfw another anon misueses the word "remake" remake yet again
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>>387400650

>low violence

Are you German?
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>>387400793
Yes.
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>>387400246
I played it for the first time a couple years ago

>>387400317
Not being able to see what is charging to kill you In Crisp High Definition™ adds to the horror, bozo. The original's aesthetic is tight. It is precisely as desolate and oppressively grim as it should be.
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>>387399770
REmake, 2, 3, 4 are essential.

5 and Revelations 2 if you're still busy.

6 in case you *really* loved the CG movies (ie Degeneration, Vendetta, or hell, even w.s. anderson's garbagefires because it does approach its level of stupidity quite a bit).

7 is Resident Evil in name only. It gets references thrown in here and there via journals and shit, but taken as a whole, it resembles Outlast more than it does Resi. It's not a bad game overal, but it's definitely not as good as some make it out to be, thanks in part due to its ''cinematic'' aspects in its first half.

>>387400650
what
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>>387400857

You deserve it then.
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>>387400871
I still don't get the outlast compressions it feels nothing like Outlast.
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>>387400891
I know, I am sorry.
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>>387400871
>>387400712

>skip 1

1 is the most original, interesting, comfy, and funniest though. It's genuinely super entertaining. You should go for the dialogue and videos alone.
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>>387400542
Careful what you wish for.
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>>387401086
Capcom aren't western.
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>>387400871
Resident Evil 7 is the only RE game Shinji has praised since he left Capcom.
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>>387400945
I love RE1 too but that's your nostalgia talking and anon doesn't and probably won't have those feelings for 1.
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>>387401135
Gives me hope for TEW2 being even better then the first.
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>>387401120
They made her half mexican in the revelations games.
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>>387401135
And it was mediocre and shit after Jack when you realize the game has 1 type of enemy and evil little girl plot.
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>>387401086
I can almost guarantee if this happens I will an hero.
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>>387401143

1 has so much the other games don't have, since it was made before the RE "formula" was complete. As such, it's very interesting to check out.
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>>387399770
>and I figured I might as well start from the very beginning
>are the HD remake and 0 that are up on Steam actually good or should I go with emulation?

Yes those games are both good and you should definitely play both. However, emulate the original 3 first. Then play Remake and Zero on steam afterwards.

Then play the others:
>emulate code veronica X
>re4
>re5
>re6 only if you feel like you need to play every game in the series. skip if not, its really shit
>the revelations games too, only play if you feel you need too. they arent amazing
>re7
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>>387400945
Don't even bother trying to tell them about how delightful the original voiceacting is, or how it's not actually "the English dub", they just won't get it. They actually prefer the stock, generic, bland REmake performance.

>>387401143
I played it for the first time a couple years ago. Can you people think of any other argument than "durr Nostalgia"? You know the REmake came out only six years later?

The remake is 15 years old FGS.
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>>387401223
BLACKED
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>>387400945
while you're not wrong, playing 1 after REmake would be a chore, and personally I don't think RE1 makes a good first impression in this day and age

RE2 and 3 on the other hand, still retain a lot of their original visceral experience

>>387401201
yes but he also made TEW so I don't think he's an authority on horror games anymore
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>>387399770
Leave REmake for last game you play in the series. Its made for people who played the original, devs intentionally play on the player expect things to happen like they did in the original. Gameplay is virtually the same, REmake has couple of easy modo mechanics that make it less challenging.
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>>387401219
I still loved it.
its not perfect but the things it gets right it nails.
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>>387401201
Well then I got bad news for you anon.
He's even less involved with TEW2 than he was with TEW
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>>387401143
>>387401283
>nostalgia makes re1 good
yeah I also only played re1 for the first time a few years ago. I loved it and would definitely recommend playing it before playing remake
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>>387400650
Fellow Germanfag here.

The violence in RE4 is untouched. However, an entire mode was cut, namely Mercenaries because it awards points for killing or some stupid shit. Otherwise, it's the same as anywhere else.

If you can live without Mercenaries and the game's available for cheap, go for it.
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>>387401219
>the game has 1 type of enemy
>the residents weren't evil
>grotesquecore modern american horror aesthetics
7 pissed me off so much. fuck that game
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>>387401392

I found the remake way harder and challenging. I only played the NGC version though. There's Easy mode and Hard mode, with no normal mode. Then the crimson heads are a chore themselves, and it requires you to now have two extra items in your inventory to deal with them. Typically when I play as Jill I have the handgun and shotty, now I just go with the handgun.

Other than low ammo I found Re1 rather easy.
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>>387401086

Black dynamite in a zombie universe when?
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>>387401283
Anon said it was the most original and interesting and those qualities can be found in REmake since it shares the same plot and some of the puzzles with RE1.
Comfy is nostalgia and funniest depends on what kind of person OP, maybe he won't find it funny and hate it.

No one is saying RE1 is a shit game that only nostalgia can make someone like it. I think OP should play both but starting with REmake is the safest choice since we don't know what kind of person OP is.

>>387401468
Glad you enjoyed it but which one you find superior? I like RE1 more but i'm not blind enough to think it's a better game than REmake.
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>>387401480
>the game has 1 type of enemy
Only legit flaws the game has for me
>the residents weren't evil
But they were... they were just turned evil.
>grotesquecore modern american horror aesthetics
What? are the first ones not that too?
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>>387401532
Depends on the version of RE1.
Directors cut is super easy because of the new hadngun that has crit rolls. You save like 200 handgun rounds throughout the game by having those scrub headshots.
OG RE1 has a different handgun and there are no crits, makes initial hour of the game especially more tense.
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>>387401601
>Anon said it was the most original and interesting and those qualities can be found in REmake since it shares the same plot and some of the puzzles with RE1.

It's a remake and thus inherently unoriginal. And it removes a lot of the quirky weirdness that is only found in RE1 (really wonky dialogue and voice acting, live action cutscenes, etc) for the more streamlined RE formula of later games.
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>>387399990
it had great puzzles though
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>>387401629
Not really. RE was never clean, but the first ones didn't literally show your character sticking their arm into a toilet full of questionable liquid to pull something out, or have scenes full of rotten shit and bugs everywhere.
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>>387401601
>but which one you find superior?
I couldnt even tell you, I love both for their own strong points. Depends how im feeling, If you asked me to play one right now Id probably play remake though.
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>>387401740
That's oddly specific R has done gross out and body horror many times before.
Why is it diffrint now? .
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>>387401836

RE7 is so close. Visuals and setting are 10/10. However, it copies many of the First Person Horror style gameplay too much, and is thus too railroaded and cinematic. Every play through is basically exactly the same, and it's more of an "experience" than a "game". Thus there's no replayability.
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>>387401913
Yet something made classic RE games have infinite replayability and a comfy side to it, despite the same thing.
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>>387401913
I count Madhouse as a whole new way to play the game and its adds replay value for me. I've already played it like 5 times already.
But I will agree it needed more content and I do wish I could skip cutenesses.
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>>387401740
remake had jill empty a bathtub of corpse zombie water, to then stomp the zombies head in and throw up in the toilet. There are also rooms in the games full of bugs or leeches. You also have birkin and nemesis becoming fucked up piles of flesh and gore
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>>387402009
I felt RE7 was incredibly comfy.
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>>387401836
not him, but you seem to misunderstand

the body horror elements and this grimy-ass feel of RE7 are two different things. While it is reminiscent of RE4's first act, the villagers and creatures still had the focus over the dirty environment. RE7 is the equivalent of getting dipped into liquid, moldy garbage and swimming through it, while in the formers games the player-character did everything to prevent that from happening, at least not so prolonged
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>>387402009

There's different setups, routes, paths, and strategies for enemies. Re7 plays too samey, there's too few regular enemies, and there's way too many little in-game cutscenes where the player loses control to show off something. That's one of my biggest complaints about First Person Horrors, is that they're walking-sim scare experiences and take too much freedom away from the player. I absolutely abhor losing control of my characters in games (Platinum does that as well with their shitty QTE which ruin their 10/10 games making them 7-8/10).

it also has no business being called 7. it should have been a first person spin off series called "RE:Biohazard".
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>>387402120
>The player-character did everything to prevent that from happening
Not too sure what you mean.
RE protagonists go through a lot of gross shit.
Rebecca from REzero gets covered in gross slimy leaches none stop.
I still remember that one where the main bad guy throw up millions of leaches then became the main boss
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>>387402239
>it also has no business being called 7. it should have been a first person spin off series called "RE:Biohazard".
Still don't why some say this.
How does making it a spin off make it a better game?
Plus besides not relating much to the dumb storyline I felt like 7 was well deserving of being in the RE family.
It felt more like an RE game then even 4 at times.
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Please convince me to play re6
I completed leon's campaign or whoever it was years ago and havent touched the game since. Should I even bother with ada's and chris' campaign?
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>>387402282
I literally told you what I mean

You don't see any of the characters being covered in dirt and shit so much as the main character(s) are slogging through in RE7
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>>387402120

I don't really see the problem. New setting, new stylisation. It was nice to see something different, we're 7 fucking games in and the series felt very tired before RE7, for me anyway.

I don't want the next game to be anything like it, but as a single entry I'm fine with it.

>>387402239

RE has already fucked up what should be standalone and what should be mainline. CV should have been 4, 4 5 and 6 should have fucked off and been its own thing. Who cares, at this point?
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>>387402407
>Still don't why some say this.
>How does making it a spin off make it a better game?

Calling it 7 gives it too much expectations, especially in terms of sales. 5-6 sold way more, so you could say that 7 is a sales failure. Which is unfair. Re7 sold very well for the kind of game that it is. Different genres, different audiences, different sales figuers. Hopefully Capcom realizes this, and doesn't say "well, RE7 was a disaster, let's go back to RE5-6 military shooters".

I'm also hoping that Re7 cost less than Re5-6. 7 has the new engine as well that has to be factored into its costs. But Re7 seems a smaller scale game with less flash than 6, so let's hope that the sales are enough to make it profitable.
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>>387402540
>Hopefully Capcom realizes this, and doesn't say "well, RE7 was a disaster, let's go back to RE5-6 military shooters".
If that happens Capcom goes right back into my shit list.
I'm fine with another RE game at some point but don't abandon horror again for fucks sakes.
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>>387402942
>If that happens Capcom goes right back into my shit list.

Investors know nothing about games, as they don't play. The share holders just see that RE7 has half the sales of 6 so they tell Capcom to make more games like 6. Remember that 5-6 are Capcom's biggest selling games EVER.

http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html
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>>387402095
they move like goofy asians with pasted on western people masks
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>>387403114
Yeah but RE6 was a massive bomb despite the sales.
its one of the reasons Capcom went back to making horror games.
They can't make games like 6 again unless they want to go bankrupt.
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>>387399872
>The HD remakes are okay
Okay? REmake is one of the best RE games along with RE2. What are you talking about? It's way better than the original
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I can't wait for the VR first-person REmake 2 desu
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>>387404685
Okay means good in this place. Shit means great. You'll get used to it.
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>>387399770
Shinji Mikamu's original game and REmake are two completely different games. The original is a fucking masterpiece, while REmake was what made Mikami rethink the whole formula and drop it in RE4. Kids loved REmake because of its grimdark aesthetics (the original is actually very colourful), but it's inferior in every way except for graphics and misses the whole point of what made the original so great: the incredible tendion coupled with Mikami's trademark tongue-in-cheek "horror" that in the REmake is played completely seriously.
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>>387404685
>okay: correct, permissible, or acceptable; meeting standards
Yes. It's not as good. Yes. What is the problem?
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>>387404902
>trademark cheese
>one fucking title

REmake had plenty of cheese as well my man. Explain how is RE2 darker than REmake, both in color scheme, atmosphere and actual story/plot.

>necrophilia
>rape
>incest

You can't? Okay, I will then - its because Mikami had next to nothing to do with RE2. He was just shown monthly builds to okay, nothing else.
Mikami is a fucking hack and TEW showcases that. He had one great game under his belt, one truly great game and that is RE1. And that wasn't great thanks to his vision, it was great due to technical limitations and careful input from other guys on his team. Remember that Mikami originally wanted RE1 to be a first person shooter game.
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>>387404685
It's better in some ways but in others not so much, it's about on par with the original yet both should be played and preferably the original first.

What the original has over the REmake is:
Better and more relevant puzzles (for example the life and death pictures - - remake puzzles are much more simplified and repetitive)
Better soundtrack
Better voice work
Better design of the prebaked backgrounds
Better survival aspects (less ammo, zombies aren't as easy to run around)
Better core story (remake adds an absolutely poor side story about a hunchback ham-fisted in in the gardens, additionally has the weird crypt shed outside the door in the center of the mansion with a cheesy zombie that is harder to kill

What the REmake does add well however is removing some of the backtracking puzzles and having the crimson zombies
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>>387405060
RE2 is a Kamiya game. And it's practically an action title. It has nothing to do with either.
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I will NEVER understand you people.

>You play RE1 first
You start at the beginning and understand the series' origins a bit more, you finish a game that you would otherwise have never gone back to had you started with REmake, you enjoy two games instead of one, you get a much greater appreciation for the REmake because it's tailored for the fans of the original. Bonus points: voice acting is hilarious to the point where you can get drunk or play it with friends and enjoy yourself.

>You play REmake first
You get to enjoy one very good game and have no idea what improvements they made over the original (protip: it's more than just the graphics and the tone).

Stop being retarded and start with RE1 first. Being able to enjoy it has nothing to do with nostalgia, it's just all about not being a fucking casual retard. You'll end up playing RE2 anyway, that game is similar in more ways than /v/ would like to admit, so what the fuck is the point of ignoring 1 and easing into it all?
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>>387405060
>Explain how is RE2 darker than REmake, both in color scheme,

That's easy. For some reason, when they made games for the GC, the idea is that everything should be dark green or brown. They sucked the color out of everything. You can see this with RE0.

>>387405112

Kamiya's game was turning out bland, so Mikami came in, told them to redo it, and then oversaw it.
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>>387405060
>He had one great game under his belt, one truly great game and that is RE1.
Holy fuck is this the mindset of REmake fans? God Hand is one of the best games of all time. Resident Evil 4 is amazing. You have the worst taste I've seen in a while. Dang.
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>>387405112
My man RE2 is no more action than RE1 was.
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>>387405171
Come on now, God hand is good and underrated but definitely no where near one of the best games ever. You're living a meme with that perspective

It was originally highly praised and posted on /v/ due to a scathing and stupid ign review which gave it a poor score. It's a far better game than ign implied but it's not a masterpiece, it's still flawed, it's still short and it's repetitive
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>>387405096
>Better and more relevant puzzles (for example the life and death pictures - - remake puzzles are much more simplified and repetitive)
True
>Better soundtrack
N-no?..
>Better voice work
Ah nevermind you are a troll
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>>387405171
>Godhand
>"hmmmmmm tank controls and shitty gameplay worked well for this horror genre... I KNOW! Let's make a fighting game with the same mechanics!"

Godhand is a garbage game that has a small cult following. That's it.
RE4 could've been great but it drops the ball already at the castle area. Then it takes a dump on that ball when you hit the island area.
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>>387405279
Yes it by far had a better soundtrack and before you pull that weird remastered dualshock version soundtrack I'm talking about the original

And yes the voice work was better. It was cheesy as Fuck though that direction was intentional and the Cheese is played very well, in remake they become soulless robots in execution
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>>387405184
Go replay them and see how wrong you really are. Make sure you play the original and not the REmake.
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>>387405423
I like RE1 far more than REmake, I don't have to play it, I already did my annual playthrough.
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Remake vs RE1 has been one of the longest disputes on /v/ for as long as I can remember, both have compelling arguments
original RE1 is best imo
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Oh so we hate REmake now? Holy shit this place is a shithole. How come this board is vidya if everyone has a shit taste?
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>>387405276
Elaborate. Also according to HLTB, the game is 13.5 hours long, which is a fine length for an action game. Unless you think 13.5 hours is short? Pretty strange. That's considerably longer than RE1, 2, 3, and REmake.

>>387405289
Elaborate.

>>387405561
>hate
???
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REmake was my first RE game. I remember being pretty blown away by all these slick graphics. Came on two discs, which led me to believe it was an epic adventure. Its a small game though, and I prefer that, small and dense rather than large and unfocused.

From there I played RE2 and 3 on my Playstation 1, and eagerly awaited Resident Evil 4. Never ever Gaystation Poo! Exclusivity really has lost all meaning... Then I played Resident Evil Outbreak for like 200 hours, online and offline on Playstation 2. We are overdue for an Outbreak game.

I really like Resident Evil 5 and 6 as well, eventhough they seem to be the punching bags. I'm reserving judgement on 7 until a year passes. I like to let it soak.
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>>387405136
Don't worry, once the first-person VR REmake 2 comes out there won't be any more reason to play RE2.
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>>387405610
>elaborate

Are you illiterate? I was more than sufficiently concise and clear.
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>>387405737
Fuck you, if REmake is first-person I will be very upset. What fucking VR? Are you 15 or something?
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>>387405276
God hand is a 7/10 game at best, the wacky aspect is its main thing going for it and that gets old fairly quick
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>>387405749
Come on, at least try to argue your brittle stance.
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>>387405942
You don't even have to write anything, you can just link to some review you agree with and I can debunk that.
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