Just beat this and I want to talk about it. Why did they keep

>>387396361

She's kept around because the bad guy likes to fuck her.

Yes, it's stupid. The whole fucking franchise is stupid. Don't ever expect anything to make any sort of sense.

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>>387396361

I beat that shit on the hardest difficulty without kills or getting caught on European Extreme when I was 15. That was 10 years ago nigger.

Git fucking good faggot

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>>387396565
That's what I did too. It was just frustrating as fuck. Also I gut pissed off as fuck the few times I forgot to save and had to redo a boss. Auto-Saving was a mistake, it's spoiled me rotten.

After I finish Peace Walker I'll be done with the entire series, MGS2 had the best everything except atmosphere, which MGS1 had the best of. I liked both Metal Gear games a lot more than I thought I would.

Should I binge the Resident Evil series, Parasite Eve, or SMT next?

>>387396750
all three of it

>>387396750

Don't binge Parasite Eve, just play the first one.

The sequel was a failed attempt to merge RE-style gameplay with turn-based RPG gameplay and it doesn't work at all. Bad gameplay, bad story, only three dull locations in the entire game, it's just awful. The third game is Parasite Eve in name only.

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>>387396750
>SMT

Better start on Megami Tensei and don't skimp on Demi-Kids

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>>387397135
>The sequel was a failed attempt

get fucked kiddo, PEII is goat

>>387397286

You have objectively shit taste in games.

>>387396750
I myself can't decide if I like MGS1 or 3 more

>>387397373
can objectively say the very same thing about you

>>387396361
>Why did they keep EVA around if they thought she was Sokolov's lover?

Perhaps they were using her as leverage to make Sokolov work for them?

Reminder that Johnny is the real Eva.

>From America
>Family still lives in America
>Literally shows you the escape code while making smalltalk
>Decades later, Ocelot puts his grandson in charge of guarding his mancrush's clone
>Said grandson mastered the art of letting prisoners escape while making it look like it was incompetence on his part

The Sasaki line is a fucking family of master spies.

>>387397249
>giving retarded advice
He should obviously start with the original book, there's no point in it otherwise

One thing i really don't get is Ocelot. If he was ADAM then was he not supposed to help snake? Also why was he just suddenly friends with him in TPP?

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>>387397547
>reading

>>387397597

Don't even bother. There is no logic to this franchise. None.

>>387397597
Ocelot is a triple agent who really just does what he wants. I guess there was a point before BB told Zero he's a creepy asshole for cloning him where he was still in good terms with Zero and the rest of what would become Cipher and he became buds with Ocelot who was one of the members iirc

>>387397485
>Never got kicked out of Rat Patrol
>Ikemen as fuck
>Got to tap the ass Snake couldn't
Johnny is the real boss of MGS4

>>387397662
Nah i just realised.
Ocelot was working with the CIA, who sent him in as a triple agent in order to get the philosopher's legacy. He was posing as a russian agent sent to help snake (ADAM), and he was also posing as Volgin's assistant.

Basically he was working behind the scenes in order to steal the philosopher's legacy for the CIA

The true enigma was what the fuck did skullface do in operation snake eater.
Atleast it was an enigma before i just said "fuck it" and assumed he was there for the hell of being there

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Awesome franchise, it's like an Epic of modern times being retold with heroic fantasy in a period setting. Probably in a similar way to the Illiad for us. I hope that if our civilization is to be remembered from the bits and pieces preserved through the erosion of time; the ramblings of a Japanese westaboo is one of them.

http://metalgeartimeline.com/

For anyone confused about the MGS story
This is actually alright if you pay attention to it while reading

>>387398234
Picked up whatever Snake left behind like shell casings, bodies, fecal matter, etc to hide the fact that he was ever there in addition to "running interference" which means subtly fucking with guard patrols and their equipment to make it easier for Snake to do his thing.

>>387396361
>Why did they keep EVA around if they thought she was Sokolov's lover? There's no way they didn't know she was a spy but then they acted like they were suspicious she was a spy but then didn't care?
because Volgin is such a self confident prick that he didn't care, it really is that simple but MGS3s characters are written like total shit to the point of satire.
>The Boss's fight made me extremely angry at times, was escaping her CQC just random?
No, there's a point during the initiall CQC tussle you can counter on her, but you can only do it if you sneak up on her

>>387398630
Nah i read you can just run up and get her, you just have to press O when you hear snake's grunt

>>387398506
Skullface when in after Snake to clean-up, he didn't lurk in the shadows the entire game and actually follow him around
he just grabbed corpses and left

>>387398708
>>387398506
Thanks anons

>>387398695
I dunno, maybe the timing is easier if you sneak up on her. If I dont sneak up on her I never get it, so I just figured thats how it worked
you can just sit in the flowers a mile off from her and shoot her to death tho. you dont have to buy into any of the boss' gimmicks in the entire game

>>387398630
>but you can only do it if you sneak up on her
You can do it any time unless you're the one who tried to CQC her in the first place and she's the one who countered you

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>>387398234
A lot of the story is fucky thanks to the rushed release of V. Real shame, the game was super meaty then there's an obvious rush to completion.

>>387398708
He was there, Zero sent him and XOF to make sure Operation Snake Eater was a success at all costs. How much he actually did beyond clean up is up in the air though.

>>387398797
>unless you're the one who tried to CQC her in the first place
but I usually am. she loses me and then I get up on her and CQC her myself

>>387398805
I seen that vid of MGS3 on the fox engine.
I honestly don't see how konami just doesn't remake the fucking games already, it's not like they have to write anything new and they still own the rights to metal gear

>>387398854
which tape is that implied in? They always just referred to him as clean-up.

>>387398886
>remaking a game that doesn't need it
gotta learn that lesson again, even after twin snakes

>>387398875
I meant the "QTE" thing where you press O to counter
Yeah if you sneak up on her you can just fuck her up normally but if she's running towards you, don't try to punch her first, let her grab you and counter her

Honestly the Venom Snake not being the real Boss etc pissed me off heavily
I'm not even sure why, it just doesn't feel right playing MGSV anymore knowing that instead of Big Boss, i'm playing as some medic guy

>>387398854
>>387398708
>>387398506
>autists think Skull Face was literally sneaking behind Snake because of literal interpretation of the idiom "cleaning up" after the operation
Embarrassing.

>>387398993
That'd be the mistake I was making then

>>387399013
I still wish they brought back David Hayter specifically to voice the real Big Boss's lines. It would've been the perfect way to work in the sudden change to Keifer Sutherland's acting.

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>>387398506
>Skullface picking up BB smelly poopoos around the jungle

>>387399013
Why? theres no reason to be an autistic fanboy about Big Boss, the dude is a clown and the entirety of Metal Gear was kind of salvaged from the damage PW did by the damage that V did.
Venom Snake and the reveal managed to save Big Boss as a character

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>>387399028
>when you realize that MGS fanbase is 80% american midwestern hicks

>>387399118
I mean chronologically we don't hear Boss's voice again after TPP, it's nonexistant in MG1 and 2, and it's different in MGS4, so the voice changing is pretty much alright by me

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>Being this fucking ignorant of the series
You should all kill yourselves.

>>387399142
>the damage PW did
I've never actually played it, what did it do that was so bad?

>>387398886
Konami's got the Fox engine, Metal Gear and Silent Hill franchises but pissed off Kojima. As far as Kojima's concerned, Metal Gear 'ended' with TPP and, after he left Konami, nixed plans for any future installments as well as the PT Silent Hill game. Without Kojima as an IP director Konami's going to be holding these franchises and have someone else direct it.
I don't suspect whatever the next Metal Gear game will be terrible but it's in Konami's hands now.

>>387399028
I didn't say he was literally up snake's ass hiding behind barrels and signposts nerd, but him and XOF were in Tselinoyarsk supporting Snake, that's the whole reason XOF was created by Zero in the first place. Skull Face even said he "ran interference" for Snake in one of the tapes. It's like what the Support team in TPP does, they stay out of site and give intel on enemy activity to help missions go smoother.

>>387399276
Kojima wrote it while not giving a single fuck
>tech timeline all over the place now
>hyper advanced AI and mecha in 1974
>CIA cover-up excuse
>retcons the end of MGS3 and keeps Big Boss the manchild's character for a whole decade
>bad characters, bad story points
>el che el che
>muh dialogue about japanese idol fandom
and I that's just for the game's story. I don't really care for the gameplay either, but lots of kids say it's their favorite because it's the easiest.

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>>387399362
>I don't suspect whatever the next Metal Gear game will be terrible but it's in Konami's hands now.

You mean pic related? It could be good but I'm not confident. All I've seen of it so far makes it look like zombie craft survival except with Metal Gear aesthetic and probably not shit gunplay.

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>>387399429
The franchise is full of so much fuck I can't understand how there can be purists.

>kids say

Cmon, that's a bit salty.

>>387399429
>because it's the easiest.
Wait, really? It can't be easier than 5. I don't believe you.

>>387399525
That is a hilariously egregious bastardization. But I'll play it, not gonna lie. I love the franchise.

>>387398805
I don't know if it's just me but what turns me off is how it feels like there's no trace of aesthetic of MGS left in V, MGS was always very stylized in a certain way and TPP just looks off to me with the kinda photorealistic thing it's doing

>>387399525
I swear to christ if this fucks the story in any way possible i'm going on a shooting spree in konami HQ

>>387399706
No I agree, I miss the intense eyes and sculpted faces everyone had in previous games.

>>387399569
Every game has had silly dumb shit in it, because thats the point most of the time is to have this action story filled with self-aware humor
but Peacewalker was just shit
>Cmon, that's a bit salty.
I was pretty salty when /v/ told me PW was good and then I wasted my time playing it at all. it kicked me off the hype train everyone was on 3 years ago.

>>387399580
Peacewalker is the only game you can effectively run and gun in AND total stealth at the same time!

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>>387399805
>tfw we'll never see this face again

>>387397485
>Johnny was Ocelot's plan to undermine the Patriots right under their fucking noses in MGS2
>This actually makes sense

Dear god...

>>387399706
In a less-anime kind of way? Personally I love V. It's got flaws, like how it's not finished, but I enjoyed the gameplay and story a lot. There's nothing quite like it, or the Metal Gear franchise in general.

>>387396361
>Why did they keep EVA around if they thought she was Sokolov's lover?
Volgin is a die-hard sadist and got off immensely on assfucking Sokolov's lover in front of him so hard that it actually shows up in her in-game medical record.

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What the fuck was his problem anyway?

>>387400053
When I scrolled through her medical history in 3 and saw proctitis listed I could not stop laughing. It caught me off guard.

>>387400053
volgin loves dat ass just ask his boy toy

>>387396361
Ocelot was ADAM and knew she wasn't the real EVA from the get-go. Volgin knew nothing. Ocelot enjoyed fucking with her

>>387399812
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it, your autism must not have been powerful enough.

>>387400175
Spineless cuck.

>>387400175
Huey was a massive pussy who basically said yes to anything so he didn't get in trouble, which got motherbase blown up in ground zeroes and the medical block on the new motherbase destroyed too

>>387400367
nah, its not that, I've been playing TPP for months now because I finally got to play it when someone gave it to me as a gift, kind of ignored it for it's release
it gives me everything I expected out of PW, really. And I've clocked hundreds of hours into several MH titles.
PW is just shit.

>>387399013
>Venom Snake not being the real Boss
He's not Naked Snake and he's not John, but he is Big Boss. Big Boss is the two of them together.

You gotta remember that from John's point of view, he and the Medic became Big Boss around the same time. John only accepted the title of Big Boss in '74, and due to the coma, he only started to openly act under that name in '84. Medic also started to operate under the name of Big Boss in '84. They built the legend together.

It's a bit stupid to say that you're not playing the real Big Boss if you're playing the Big Boss from the original MSX game. Not as stupid as the "Big Boss is two people" retcon though

>>387399580
It's pretty much V. It's honestly just as easy as 2 or 3 but it uses an over the shoulder view instead of the fixed camera and jank first person of the previous games.
But yeah, it's easier in the sense it's 2 with better controls.

>>387396750
Conrtarian piece of shit.

>>387400530
It's just MGS2's message done over, because no one got it the first time
>Solid Snake is meme, anyone can be him, even Raiden
>Big Boss is meme, anyone can be him, even Medic
>Soldiers arent special, even the greatest ones are just good at killing people

>>387400242
Not to mention
>breast enhancement
>plastic surgery

>>387400485
>medical block

???? You mean the quarantine strut?

>>387400927
Whichever one that snake shot up and bombed to stop an outbreak, i forgot which one

>>387400672
Good soldiers build graves. HOOO HOO YEAHHHH

>>387400524
I can understand not liking peace walker or V since they're departed from the linear gameplay of the earlier games and adopt a more open world style.
I don't get how you can hate peace walker but enjoy V. Prefer one over the other sure, but how do you hate pw when it's pretty much V?

>>387401024
because V does it better, and V wasn't insanely hyped up to me.
PW was INSANELY hyped to me and then existed only to be a let down. V basically fixes all my issues that made PW a snore to play.
I much prefer sitting in a helicopter and being dropped into the open world meme while real-life timers tick down than sitting on a phone game menu getting dropped into 3 stage corridors and then force myself to sit through fucking outer ops after every 3 minute mission
I was also pretty butthurt about the grindfest bosses and that ZEKE does nothing (except shit outer ops)

>>387401320
I bet you didn't even listen to the tapes, you fuckin casual. PW was good, you're just a contrarian faggot.

>>387401384
>lol big boss is bein silly again xD
>college babby's opinion of che guvera
>bird calls
>useless factoids for hours
no thnx, Code-talker puts me to fucking sleep with how often he repeats himself but nothing is as horrid as the writing in PW.
Kojima gave no fucks, and embarrassed himself the entire game

>>387401384
>actually getting mad someone doesn't like something you do
Not even them but wew

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>>387399270

>>387401320
You got to have that high autism to appreciate the old and unrefined mechanics but you endured because you love the franchise. And if you beat all the AI bosses I got to assume you did it for some semblance of appreciation.
With all the faults in V or PW, I'd still recommend them; especially to a fan of the series.

>>387401562
>hating any kojima directed games

Wew lad, how can you even call yourself a fan if you can't even eat his poop?

>>387401654
I actually never went all the way through PW, but I plan to go back to it.
It's the only game in the series I haven't beaten, including MG1+MG2. MG2 is probably the best game in the series, that shit blew me away after suffering through MG1

>>387397135
>Parasite Eve in name only.
Not even that, it's not even called Parasite Eve and the only way to know would be research

>>387397249
>>387397547
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbLO8_zZw30

>>387401559
Personally I don't like the direct reference to el che but I get where they were going with it.
The Sandanistas (in the game) were similarly motivated as a military-government like Big Boss' dream for his MSF.
It was maybe misguided but it fit the theme of the clandestine latin merc groups of the era.

>>387402018
I get that, but it really doesn't function for me when you're trying to be era accurate and then have super mecha flying around and singing like vocaloids.
Especially when it happens after MGS3, which at least half-tried to simulate some kind of low-tech experience for the period it's set in.

>>387402085
MGS1 was high tech, steatlh camo, rex, cyborg ninja. All of mgs2. MGS3 sonar radar, shagohod, Volgin, the fear has prototype stealth camo, jet pack the fury, the flying platforms that chase you at the end. MGS always been high tech.

>>387402268
>the flying platforms that chase you at the end
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiller_VZ-1_Pawnee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_X-Jet

>>387402268
>MGS1 was high tech, steatlh camo, rex, cyborg ninja
game developed in the mid 90s that takes place in the near future of the mid 00s.
>MGS3 sonar radar, shagohod, Volgin, the fear has prototype stealth camo, jet pack the fury, the flying platforms that chase you at the end.
The Fear now has super parasites that made him invisible, it wasn't tech but supernatural occurrence that inspired the tech as of V. and things like Sonar and a giant tank are minor slights compared to literally everything in PW.
MGS has always been knee-deep in science fiction bullshit, but it's always tried to be reasonable up until PW and V where the ability to suspend disbelief is tested and fails.

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>>387402085
The mix of contemporary and sci fi tech is something I really like about the series. It plays into that black ops aspect of geopolitics. Very conspiracy theory.
They definitely jump the shark with it but I kind of like it. Like making sweet love and getting a thumb in the butt.

>>387402509
Its all fine, I just don't dig Kojima introducing tech that was supposed to be cutting edge in MGS1,hidden under a bunch of government red-tape and only sees light because Snake is sneaking into a facility where shit is going down, in the middle of central america just flying around where anyone can just see and be like "oh man those CIA robots sure are something"

>>387402442
>The Fear now has super parasites that made him invisible

Why even bother to lie about something like this?

>>387402706
Did you not listen to the tapes in V?
They kind of fucked MGS3 in the ass

>>387402782
They said nothing about the fear and the vocal cord parasites weren't even being touched back then.

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>Hey good job with that boss fight
>this should be easy for you ;3

>>387402926
They scraped vocal cord parasites off of what was left of The End and that became the basis of Code Talker's research. It's not that big of a leap to assume that the other members of the Cobras had them too considering all the weird shit they were capable of.

>>387402926
Didn't they mention the end having the same parasites as quiet or some shit?

>>387401000
How was the second outbreak Huey's fault? Genuinely asking, not doing the "he did nothing wrong" thing.

>>387403103
>>387403060
this
everything the Cobra's did that was supernatural is now the product of super parasites they somehow picked up, Code-Talker himself says he was only allowed personal examination of the end but there were others with parasites that granted other abilities.

>>387403103
>>387403060
Thats not the fear though is it.

>>387403190
what an autistic thing to say

MGR > MGS

>>387403324
>solid action game > haphazard action that is constantly being fucked around and experimented with inbetween installments
you right tho

>>387403324
thank you for bumping the thread

>>387403298
Except its true retard.

>>387403468
>Except its true retard.
yes indeed anon, "except its true retard" what you said is indeed true retard.

>>387403190
Yes anon, I'm sure the End was the only super human freak in a group of super human freaks to use a parasite that has the ability to turn someone into a super human freak and the others were just that badass. Like I said, it's not that crazy to assume the other Cobras used some other strains of the parasite to get the abilities they had, unless everyone but The End were just born with their abilities.

>>387403696
he just didn't listen to the tapes, Code-Talker names like 3 super powers the parasites are capable of and I can definitely remember him talking insect control in-particular.
but yeah, sure, fear just has magic camo that turns him invisible just like the other cobras magic camo :^)

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>ITT no one talks about 4

good

>>387403129
Another infection spreads on Mother Base, in the Quarantine platform. It is later revealed that Huey accidentally sparked it while using beta radiation on the Wolbachia. In order to prevent a worldwide outbreak, Venom Snake is forced to kill all the Diamond Dogs soldiers in the Quarantine platform.
From the Metal Gear Solid timeline website