Sonic Forces = BOOSTSHIT

sonic was never good

Is this pasta

>tfw you weren't born with this autism

Is this Chrischan? Literally blue arms tier autism.

didn't read lol
i liked generations tho

FOLLOW ME
SET ME FREE
JOIN ME AND WE WILL BOOSTSHIT AWAY FROM THE CITY

>>387377654
the Adventure games were dogshit

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/v/ - Sonic Games

There's like thirteen Sonic threads right now.

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>>387377654
chris chan go away

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>>387378204
>everyone ignoring the video where he proves his points
hmm

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>>387379271
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>there are people who unironically want more sonic team sonic games when they have proven to be nothing but inept for multiple decades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBZgk8gJc6g

>>387381187
This looks shit as an actual game though, it's way too horizontal and spread out.

>>387381187
stop shilling this shitty game. I played it and it's garbage. It's fine as a sandbox game but something like this would never work in a real Sonic game

isn't turning instantly more casual since you don't have to compensate for anything

>>387381246
If they fix level design it will beat current 3d sonic

>>387381384
That's because of how retarded sonic games in 3d have become people just don't realize that it can get much better.

>>387381582
You have to compensate for yourself and the speed you're travelling at. You shouldn't try to just label things as casual so freely.

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>>387381384
Isn't this just the tech demo? I heard the actual levels would be more linear

>>387381803
hmm I don't feel it

>>387381905
If they do fans will have beaten Sonic team at their own game for the third time in a row.

Giving the player an extra mechanic to manage, such as deceleration, is the opposite of "for casuals".

Having your character suddenly dart towards whatever direction the player presses is for casuals and something that amateur devs who are just making babby's first video game project tend to do over industry veterans.

>>387381246
>>387381384
I think to show off how the game controls it's fine, having big open areas helps make you feel fast. As long as there isn't some retarded shit like "Find the emerald hidden in this tiny part of this massive level" it''ll probably be fine if they add more stuff and shrink it down a bit.

>>387379271
>he
We know it's you, OP.

I agree that SA1 sonic handles very well (glitches aside) and is the best 3D controlling sonic in terms of momentum and physics but literally all 3D sonics from SA2 onwards have handled/controlled like dogshit until boost was introduced

>>387381905
The OP explained it fine and has plenty of solid examples even if it's a bit extreme (I should just say autistic since /v/ understands that word better) in it's wording and presentation.

How has it been like 2 months since I last saw this thread and OP still hasn't figured out how angles work?

>>387383796
because he is an autistic sperg. He will continue posting this same shitty image with little to no modifications until the day he dies. If anything it will just get more autistic as time goes on.

>>387383796
>angles
did you even watch the video? Or are you so dumb that you said angles when you meant to say something else?

>>387381187
Sonic Utopia just doesn't work as a real lengthy game.

The final result would just be the 3d part of the Sonic Unleashed stages, but even more limited.
And of course idiots will continue to shill the game (if it's finished one day) and trash boost games.

>>387384083
Actually, I don't give a shit about whatever OP's actually talking about, I'm just talking about how his image implies that a 90° turn and a 120° degree turn can somehow end up with you moving in the same direction.

>>387377654
So would classic sonic also be better if you instantly went full speed when you turned around? It would mean you have "full control" over Sonic, after all

Both control schemes are shit. It makes no sense to instantly be able to change direction preserving all momentum, but whatever they did in "boostshit" games doesn't look right either.

lel, the OP doesn't use his actual voice in the video, probably because he knows everyone would be able to spot the obesity and autism within a fraction of a second.

>>387382071
>>387381187

Add a small bit of platformer and the shit will break fast.

Of course momentum and speed feels great when all you have its open empty areas. but Sonic is suppose to have more than that and I can fucking bet you it'll be as shitty as any 3D game when they do.

>>387384470
You get stopped in Adventure games if you change to the opposite direction. What he's talking about is something that can't be portrayed in a 2D game, or at least Sonic specifically since you only go forwards and backwards/left and right.

>>387377654
>06. if you hate this one you are a grumptard btw.
I realize this post is mostly bait but tired is objectively wrong. The game is awful and not fun.

>>387384413
You really are retarded. Look at the picture better, dumbass

>>387384979
Ok. I see an instant 90° turn correctly marked and a realistic 90° turn incorrectly marked as a 120° turn. Maybe one day you'll learn how math works, OP.

>>387384979
Not him but you're retarded.

>SA1/2 Physics
I bet you also hated momentum in the 2d games.

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>>387377654
Awaken my Masters!

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>>387377654
Would it be okay if boost is restricted to 2D games though?

>>387379271
Okay OP

>>387385134
Friendly advice here, I agree with you 100%, but I've had this conversation with this retard and I just thought I should warn you that it leads nowhere. He will never understand what you are saying, and he is so assblastedly defensive about his position that all you will accomplish is getting him to call you retarded several times.

In his retarded mind, "turn radius" means the angle between Sonic's physical position one second before and after sonic turns. So even though Sonic has turned 90 degrees in both scenarios, the fact that one carried the momentum of his forward movement, he is displaced on the y axis. Of course OP is too retarded to notice that his 1 second before and after method is arbitrary, as the angle of the line he is measuring gets infinitely closer to a perfect 90 degree turn the longer you wait after the turn to make the measurement.

And of course the entire thing is meaningless, because whatever the case may be the games are both designed around their particular movement schemes, so neither is really wrong, and he should instead be focusing his energy on arguing against the level design of boost games as opposed to the turn radius. But he won't, because he has brain damage.

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>>387385508
>The mask

>>387381187
I hope these guys get the Mania treatment.
Modern Sonic's visual design is so shit, everything looks like UE4 assets. This is very stylized and nice. Short Sonic > Lanky Sonic as well, Sonic works best as a silent, but sarcastic protagonist. The Snarky Sonic from Adventure onwards is so fucking annoying, who likes him other than DeviantArt Sonicbabs?

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Let me just drop this here.

>>387377654
These games would be better if there was no boost mechanic. I actually enjoy sonics controls in unleashed if it was in an open world, open field kind of game.

Sonic Colors is still one of my favorite games because of the boost and the segments that where intentionally designed for it. I wish generation wasn't so slippery when it came to controls


Eat my ass

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>>387385508
>& Knuckles

So these are all an elaborate joke right? The glitch ridden fuck fest that is 2006 ever being called good.

>>387386157
show me where in the OP it says that's a 90 degree angle

>thinks this is true
>probably believes that Mario 64 is 10/10 GOTYAY and it does the same fucking curve to right shit controls BS
I really wish modern gamers would understand their childhood games were shit.

>>387388549
Nigga I'm on your side. OP is retarded.

>>387377654
>>hoaming attack chains
>>trampoline chains
>>rails
>>quicktime events (QTE)

Are you retarded, all of those things are in SA1/2

Left side is lazy game design that forces the player to adjust his analog positioning to acomodate sonic's aceleration. It feels cheap and amateur. Leads to constant accidental death by straying abruptly from the intended level path.

Right side gives momentum to your movement and feels much weightier and tight, leaving you to concentrate on obstacles that are coming, and you'll feel like your mistakes in the stage were genuine mistimed jumps and turns instead of failed struggles with the controls.

Sonic Adventure ultra fast segments only worked when locking you in place. If they didn't, you'd have to wrestle the shit controls even more like when trying to run through a loop in utopia, which uses the same control style of the adventure games, all the time. It feels janky. Utopia at least doesn't force you to do those things and focuses more on momentum.

So by this logic final fantasy 7 has better movement controls than Mario 64

>>387391297
who the fuck plays final shitasy?