Are Nintendo scared of their own fans now?

>>387362368

if the 'fan projects' were any good, why do they need to use other people's IP?

They shut down AM2R because they were literally pursuing the same project on the 3DS and didn't want it stealing its thunder.

Doesn't matter though, it's still complete and on the internet.

>>387362432
If you think you can do it better then why not?

like how their localizers change things for a bigger paycheck their lawyers dcma things for a bigger paycheck

also they dcma'd prism not uranium, uranium dev just pussed out as did the M4 guys

>>387362759
Nintendo has sued almost everyone at this point they are just the crazy old granny of gaming who buys the best candy.

>>387362613
From what I remember, someone in this thread had posted messages from one of the people working on AM2R that they stopped not because of Nintendo, but because they had mostly given up working on the project.

This was not shut down by the devs of video games. I doubt they would want it shut down if they have even played it

This was shut down by the lawyers of nintendo. You must be at least 18 years old to post on 4chan. You can't be this fucking stupid.

>>387362884
>Protecting their IP means they're crazy
Never write a book or have anything to do with IP. Because you would most likely end up losing all creative control over it within a week.

>>387362961
Well yeah, obviously the guy who made it stopped working because it was just finished. They still took down the upload because of Nintendo, though that's mostly a symbolic gesture.

They correctly saw it would harm the brand of the game they were going to release. And they were right.
More people said they'd rather just play AM2R than the new official game release.

>>387363131
IP laws in the USA are fucked, regardless companies and individuals have protected their IP just fine without a lawsuit and C&D every week. Don't bother playing armchair lawyer, nintenbro.

>>387363131
Genericization only applies to trademarks

>>387363538
How do you think IP's are protected? Most innocuous fanworks like fanfiction are fine, but when things are reaching potential commercial territory, you send out the C&D letters and possible lawsuits. IP laws are essentially that if you don't defend your IP, you forfeit the right to. it Yes, it's that stupid but being that aggressive is how you don't somehow end up losing rights to it because of one fuck-up.

Don't forget about them shutting down project M's develoment, getting it shadow banned from twitch, and getting it removed from Apex and other major tournaments they sponsored.

>>387363730
You still need to protect it. C&D letters are by far the most standard way of defending IP. I have no idea why anyone would be surprised or offended at companies sending one to people to defend their IP.

>>387362368
>They shut down
Get the fuck over it.

>>387362368
Uranium is shit so who cares if they C&D'd it.

>>387362613
Shit, am2r had content locked from amiibos too?

>>387362368
careful bro, the SR shills will be all over you.

>>387362368
Oh get the fuck over it.

Nintendo won't let people profit off their ip within fair use laws, why would they allow projects which are no doubt collecting donations continue?

If not, they should be if you ask me. Indie games have been capturing the old school Nintendo magic better than they've been able to for years.

>>387362368
>They refuse to use the Mother 3 fan translation even though it's a better job they could actually do of it.
I don't know what you mean by "use" it.
If they use the translation and pay the translators, they're losing out on potential money in future
If they use the translation and don't pay the translators, they're leaving themselves open to negative publicity from "Nintendo stole my work!"

Either way, it promotes piracy since it's showing a level of appreciation for people who distributed ROMs of Mother 3.

>>387364129
95+% of all Indie games are crap, so I have no idea what kind of old school Nintendo magic you have been experiencing to even compare the two.

>>387364128
>profit

AM2R was free

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>>387362368
how dare you

>>387363889
Project M shut down because they wanted to make "Not-Melee" instead.

>>387364128
>Fair use laws
>Laws
There aint no laws for fair use kid. Why don't these faggots ever make their own games if they're so good?

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>actually believing Mother 4 will EVER come out

>>387362432
If Nintendo is so good, why are random fans able to make better games than their team of professional developers?

>>387364224
Shovel Knight, Braid, Bastion and Cave Story are better than anything Nintendo has put out since Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3.

>>387364426
name 5 games that are better than the official game you are comparing it to.

Jesus tittyfucking Christ, has there been any other fandom who's gone this insane over a fangame being C&D'd (and AM2R was finished and is available anyways so why the fuck are these children even crying in the first goddamned place?)?

>>387364168
>If they use the translation and don't pay the translators, they're leaving themselves open to negative publicity from "Nintendo stole my work!"

The guy that made the Mother 3 translation has gone on record saying he's cool if Nintendo uses his work for free.

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>>387364428
>Braid, Bastion

>>387362432
Because they're fan projects

>>387364382
What is that from?

>>387364428

Shovel Knight and Cave Story, yes. Really good indie games. Those other 2, no.

Braid sucks ass.

>>387364535
Metroidfags just love to complain.

>>387364535
>Good game gets C&D
>Nintendo lazily shits out game with amiibo locked content, shitty 2.5 graphics, braindead bosses with QTE's

Wtf why are people mad

>>387364519
sonic mania

It's called protecting your IP so it isn't watered down with fan garbage.

>>387364702
Zero Time Dilemma

if you like what you see, go play 999 and Virtue's Last Reward instead. ZTD is pretty bad

>>387365042
in this case it wasn't watered down more like a rich mixed drink.

MEANWHILE SR is tap water from Mexico.

>>387362368
mayomoto is a cunt that's why they scraped it look up is myayomota a cunt on youtube it explains it all

nintendo 64 could have had gta but he said no

>>387365126
I don't like what I see. Eye trauma gives me anxiety, but I can't look away.

>>387364982
>fan game gets finished and released
>Nintendo makes their own filled with things that trigger you because of your personal opinion and "OMG Hard Mode With The Worst Suit In The Series" needs a displayable toy to get

It's almost like you people are faggots.

>>387362368
>People use your assets and makes content with your IP
>Don't defend it at all
>Lose your IP as it becomes public domain and up for grabs

Why do children shitpost on this board so much? Do any of you think before you post?

>>387365382
it's okay, his arms are cut off too

>>387365404
Fusion was kino you cocksucking faggot. It's a better game than this rushed mess.

>>387365514
That's not how it works, America's so fucked up, retard.

>>387363131
>Because you would most likely end up losing all creative control over it within a week.
You're an idiot.

>>387365514
>Lose your IP
It doesn't even have to be about losing your IP. Since when is it a shitty thing to do to tell someone to fuck off and stop using your property? What are we, communists all of a sudden?

>>387365146

how the fuck do you know? it's not out.

jesus - you people are ridiculous.

>>387365624
>two years in development
>rushed mess

Yeah, na. Your a cunt.

I'm not surprised that corporate bootlickers on /v/ don't know how the law works

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>>387362613
>>387362961
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/06/reggie_fils-aime_defends_nintendos_indie_support_and_am2r_policy

>Reggie: "So, I think there needs to be clarity in what the line is, and, in our view, the line is when an initiative crosses from being an homage to something that is monetizing our IP. We allow homages to exist in a variety of different ways. And, for me personally, as a fan before I was an executive, I understand the attraction that you could have to our IP. But, when it transitions to something that... now, you're trying to monetize, you're trying to sell, you're trying to profit off of, that is what broaches or breaks through that line for us, where we have to claim our IP protection."
>"But again, to differentiate this, we have had conversations with entities that started as fans and became more of a business partner. Those conversations happen all the time, but again, when something transitions to a commercial product, and that's what [AM2R] was—there wasn't a charge, but it was now a commercial product."
>"How do our creators, like Mr. Sakamoto, who created Metroid, and Nintendo control that intellectual property so that we can drive where it's going, versus someone else driving where it's going."
>"That's where the line is very clear for us. And again, we could go on to YouTube and a variety of different places and see fans doing interesting things with our IP. But when it turns to driving the direction of the IP, or somehow monetizing or becoming a commercial project, that's where for us, the line has been crossed."
TL;DR: they axed AM2R because it was not only was a non-profit commercial product, but was also driving the direction of their Nintendo IP

>>387365624
>flies to the defense of the entire game when I only mentioned the suit

Fusion is fine, but the Fusion Suit is ugly as sin.

>>387365726
Free property is a communist value retard, if anything they are being the opposite of communist.

>>387365726
It's only bad when Nintendo does it.

>>387363794
>reaching potential commercial territory
Everything has potential for commercial use. Stop spouting stupid shit. You can't loose rights to an IP because someone made a fan game.

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>>387363889
>Don't forget about them shutting down project M's development
that was Warchamp, you shart

take a look at his pathetic ass trying to damage control some fuck leaking what was left of Project M and outing his ass.

>>387364336
this is partially correct. despite being a community manger for Wavedash, he fucking paved way for Icons by axing PM's development so people can go support that ugly mess instead

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>>387364428
>Braid, BaSJWtion

>>387365813
>Literally demanding to use someone else's hard work free of charge to profit for yourself
This is what the communists wanted. The gameplay is there already. Why can the game not be skinned differently? These faggots could then even profit off of it.There's literally no good explanation you can give to justify this. Inb4 you try to claim profit can only be made in direct money

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>>387365146
>a fucking BEVERAGE analogy

>>387362368
For the record, AM2R never got hit with the Nintendo C&D. They chose to bow out and stop distributing the game before it ever came to that. AM2R was very open from the very first day, being very through during it's development. If the problem was that "Nintendo hates fan games", then they were within their right to hit it right on day 1. But they didn't. They chose to wait until the game was completely finished and out into the ether of the internet before even attempting to take legal action. Personally, it strikes me more as Nintendo letting it exist while also showing that they defended their copyright, almost as a pity throw to get both options, and clearly it worked since the brand is intact and the game can be found with any google search. That's just my gut intuition though. I can't say much for Uranium though, apparently they did something similar by bowing out before Nintendo even contacted them, I think?

>>387365774
>somehow monetizing or becoming a commercial project
>a free fan game that can be downloaded by anyone

I'll admit, that made me laugh though. It feels like they pulled that out of their butt, or it was Sakamoto's wording because dear god that guy lost it somewhere between the old days and now.

>>387365005
3&K is still better, Taxkun

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>>387363131
>>387363794
>>387363929
>>387365042
>>387365514

>Fifty
>Two
>Percent

Alright, listen up you obese fucking Americanos, the problem isn't Nintendo taking down bootlegs trying to compete with their wares.
Almost all fan games that come out 2-3 years after the release of the product they are based on, are games that need to be PATCHED and require the BASE GAME.
These are not a problem, neither are ips files for older games.

The main issue here is that Nintendo is taking down fangames based on products that
1. are not in production
2. are over a decade old
3. are freely available on the Internet

Pokemon Prism and AM2R did not have a Patreon or any other donation service bound into them

In fact...
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/am2r/donations-t1520.html

PLEASE come up with a legitimate counter-argument without crying about other people crying about something that doesn't affect you.

>>387366395
hi lawyer frogposter
explain this please >>387365774

>>387366395
>3. are freely available on the Internet
I meant that the fanproducts are freely available.

>Still whining over a fan game you can still find with a simple google search

Metroidfags are something else.

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>tfw your parents didn't hug you as a child so you have to pretend your dad is nintendo instead

>>387366510
NINTENDO DESTROYED IT IT'S GONE FOREVER THEY HATE THEIR FANS CINEMATIC EXPERIENCES LOCKED CONTENT NEVER DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT ALWAYS CHANGING EVERYTHING THESE YOUTUBERS MAKE BETTER GAMES I HATE YOUTUBERS CENSORSHIP SJWS

>>387366510
i know right?
these fags remind me of all the Judgralfags bitching about FE:Awakening
just play the older games and it's fucking fanhacks

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>>387366648
this will be the last time i'm spoonfeeding and i've already said this once.
now it's absolute

>>387362368
They cant shutdown whats already finished and released in the web, doing it after the fact is just paying lip service to their investors

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>>387366490
REGGIE is an ABSOLUTE motherfucker.

AM2R WAS NOT A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT
THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN ANY ATTEMPTS TO MONETIZATION OR COLLECTING DONATIONS WHATSOEVER
HE PULLED IT STRAIGHT OUT OF HIS ASSHOLE

WEAK attempt to save face

>>387366772
I'm pretty sure that the anon was being sarcastic

>>387366265
>For the record, AM2R never got hit with the Nintendo C&D.
Well yeah, they got hit with multiple DMCA letters. People always send out DMCAs first, then C&D if the person is noncompliant, that's standard practice for nonprofit infringements. You're trying to make it sound a lot more amicable than it was.

>>387366890
he said it was "becoming one" and the fan game was "pushing the direction" of the franchise/IP in the same time, hence why they took action.

AM2R kiddies are quickly becoming the most annoying faggots on /v/. Second only to faggots who make stealth /pol/ threads.

>>387367001
>he said it was "becoming one" and the fan game was "pushing the direction" of the franchise/IP in the same time, hence why they took action.

Something only the Nintendo executive knew, apparently.

>>387362368
>see them as equal competition to sega or sony

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GOOD ONE ANON

>>387366976
My point is that it never got "taken down" like a lot of people seem to think, they chose to do that of their own accord. Pretty sure Uranium did it even before they got the DMCAs.

>>387367001
>he said it was "becoming one"
Which is a lie.
>"pushing the direction" of the franchise/IP
Which is just bullshit. It also probably would've helped if they didn't go a decade without releasing games in a series..

>>387362368
You have to be functionally retarded to understand why they don't want people using their IP.

One of the biggest focuses with marketing is controlling how you want your brand to be displayed. Letting someone else use your intellectual property means you have no control over how its represented. Even if the game is good, that's not something any company on Earth will be happy letting happen.

That's the reason why TV and movies shows often have to conceal the brand labels of products their using or why Sony had to pay to have one of the characters sing one line from a Wizard of Oz song in the Ghostbusters reboot

>>387367113
i personally think it was a awful falseflag bait by the fags shilling that awful official remake
see >>387367237 for example

>>387367335
>>387366395

>>387367404
nothing there is incongruent with what I've said

>>387367272
>My point is that it never got "taken down"
Yes it absolutely did. That's why they're called DMCA Takedown notices.

>>387367367
Samus Returns will be better than AM2R. Neck yourselves.

>>387367475
then you don't understand the issue at hand.

>>387362368
They're just a big, bad, soulless corporation. Exactly like EA. For some reason their retarded fans give them a free pass though.

>>387367281
>Which is a lie.
prove it, AM2R was becoming just as good as a Nintendo product released in the 6th-7th gen
>Which is just bullshit.
teleporters, new mechanics, updated visuals, and accurately new lore aren't franchise pushing?
all this are both in AM2R and SR btw

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>>387364519
Sonic Mania
Project Meme
ASMR
Streets of Rage fan game
hyper dbz

there you go you mong

>>387367562
>Samus Returns will be better than AM2R.
yes and?

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>>387362368
No. They've made it very clear that they don't want this kind of shit being because THEY want to make the games for THEIR franchises. Stop wasting time and effort on making this shit. It's literally all on you if it gets taken down.

>>387367607
No, I don't think you do

>>387367698
>their
you only named one Nintendo game. Name 4 more now. Plus Project M is a modification, taking the base of an existing game, but I'll let it slide, even though literally anything is better than Brawl.

>>387365514
>>Lose your IP as it becomes public domain and up for grabs
You stupid retard motherfucker nigger, that's "trademark", not "copyright". A trademark is a logo or symbol, a MARK that goes on something you TRADE. You have to defend your LOGO OR SYMBOL or else you'll lose it.

OOPS THERE'S A MR PLINKETT REVIEW OF THE STAR WARS PREQUELS, STAR WARS IS PUBLIC DOMAIN NOW, you fucking ignorant piece of shit.

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>>387367698
>hyper dbz
>just MUGEN with newer Capcom DBZ sprites
not so better than this either

>>387367621
Commercial product means making profit. AM2R dev was receiving any money for AM2R in anyway, nor was their in plan to do so. Saying otherwise is a complete lie.

Nothing from an unofficial fan game is 'franchise pushing,' canon, or dictates control in which the series must move.

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>>387365514
>>Lose your IP as it becomes public domain and up for grabs
STOP RECYCLING THIS LIE
STOP RECYCLING THIS LIE
STOP RECYCLING THIS LIE
STOP RECYCLING THIS LIE
STOP RECYCLING THIS LIE

>>387364519
https://www.redbull.com/us-en/6-amazing-fan-games-nintendo-wants-to-ban
a quick google search and i dont even have to type anything, theres six instead of five just for funsies. how does some schmo at redbull know more about videogames than v huh?

>>387366129
could you explain how Bastion is at all related to sjw's?

AM2R was completed and is available right now, so why do you faggots constantly scream "IT WAS SHUT DOWN!!" all the time knowing that it's a bald-faced lie?

>>387367964
>Commercial product means making profit
which they agreed it wasn't. do you understand the word "becoming" anon?
that's disregarding DocM64's intents to keep AM2R a free fangame or not.

>Nothing from an unofficial fan game is 'franchise pushing,' canon, or dictates control in which the series must move.
if it contains things that Zero Mission and Samus Retruns didn't tackle, it's considered "franchise pushing" to Nintendo
not hard to understand

>>387368178
Literally none of those games are better than any of the respectives best in the series.
Uranium is shit, and is arguably worse than DP, and so its Pokenet. OoT 2D barely had anything put into it to claim it would be better than any of the 2D Zelda games. 64 HD was basically a tech demo, and it still wouldn't have been better than even 64 DS.

Try again.

>>387368243
lol if I have to do that your a retarded sjw shill its blatantly objectivley obvious

>>387368395
>do you understand the word "becoming" anon?
>that's disregarding DocM64's intents to keep AM2R a free fangame or not.
So you obviously don't understand what 'becoming' means then. There was $0 going towards the project, and the 0 plans for there to be money going towards the project. So when exactly was this money going to come to the project?
>it's considered "franchise pushing"
Protip, fan works ain't part of a franchise.

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>>387368549
>my opinions are fact

wrong

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>>387368178
>Pokémon Uranium
>No Mario’s Sky, when the dude wanted Nintendo to come after him to pull out a C&D joke replacement

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>>387362368
>>387364096


Reminder that Samus Returns WILL be better than AM2R in a myriad of ways

>doesn't rely on GBA assets
>actually pushing the series forward with new ideas (360 aim, melee counter
>superior sound design/soundtrack from Super Metroid/Prime Composers
>Maintains the spooky atmosphere of the original game, with the bleeps and boops
>New lore and probably new post game
>Optional tools for newcomers,though enjoyable for veterans too
>Immersive 3D effects
>Bosses have better designs
>Better intro sequence
>Better map system (pins/waypoints, on bottom screen for incredibly easy access)
>Pretty much leads the way for Metroid Dread

And many more

It's time to lay down and die obnoxious AM2R fags. Don't get me wrong I liked the rom hack too, but stop pretending to be Metroid fans when you only like one fucking unofficial game. You are plaguing this community. Doc would be ashamed of you.

>>387368263
It's the principle that counts.
People make a free, non-patreon Nintendo game to show their love for the aimed series and get DMCed by big daddy Nintendo, because they're afraid that a fangame based on a game that came out more than 25 years ago might hurt their IP.

>>387368395
>AM2R was becoming a commerical game
No such sources exist.
The game was completed and freely available. The lead dev never had the intention of collecting money, as the game was an honest effort with love for the game in mind (comparable to Katawa Shoujo).

The reason why it was C&D was because of the Metroid 2 Remake that was in developement.
Please stop spreading Nintendo lies, it's getting really tiresome...

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Why are you niggers still complaining about this?

It made sense last year back when all Nintendo gave us was Federation Force, but now they've given us 2 fucking metroid games announced at once, and the first one is looking actually decent (No ACFag I don't care about your shitty opinions, don't bother giving me a (You) but why is there still complaining? AM2R is done, its out there for anyone to play. Who gives a damn anymore?

>>387368892
>rom hack
LOL get fucked shill. I'll pirate SR twiceover and give out NFC tags to unlock shit.

>>387368584
it was a question, not an agenda, faggot

>>387368719
>So you obviously don't understand what 'becoming' means then.
>"which they agreed it wasn't."
why did you cut that off?
>Protip, fan works ain't part of a franchise.
doesn't matter to the IP owner.


>>387368907
>No such sources exist.
read the thread >>387365774

>>387369003
>I'll pirate SR twiceover and give out NFC tags to unlock shit.
right, since when pirate even affected to the game's sales?
what ever happen to that one list of links of piracy being beneficial to the product quality and not a threat to product incomes?
>the piratefag backpedaling continues

>>387369145
I read the entire thread, this is something Reggie pulled out of his ass to protect the remake.

What you have just sent me is not a source of the game becoming a commercial one, there is no proof whatsoever.

>>387368892
>>Pretty much leads the way for Metroid Dread
People still think this is real, lmao

>>387369383
Oh that's a relief, I'm sure the two people I know who want the game will agree for me to mod their 3DS so they can pirate it then. I just need to tell them that Anonymous says that more piracy = better game.

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>the Metroid fanbase should do an official Metroid gam-

>>387362368
yes. you can clearly see that Samus Returns is a quick made game. especially after the idiots tried to do a multiplayer shooter on the fucking 3DS.

>>387369145
So when exactly was this money going to come to the project?

>doesn't matter to the IP owner.
Yes, it does. Franchise specifically means sanctioned/licensed/etc. No fanworks are part of a franchise so no fanworks dictate the direction of a franchise.

>>387369823
two different teams
at least one of them has a clear track record on doing games for two Nintendo sub-series, despite FF (which was decent time-waster, not a good normal game)

>>387367923
hyper dbz makes it's own sprites dude

>>387369897
>So when exactly was this money going to come to the project?
this is not about if Doc was going to make AM2R profitable or keep it free as it is
it's about Nintendo considering if the project was becoming like a official game you actually pay for, despite being non-profit.

>No fanworks are part of a franchise so no fanworks dictate the direction of a franchise.
Street Fighter x Mega Man says no

>>387362368
No, fan projects attract mass cancer and people who play them should not be pandered to because they tend to be filthy pirates happy they can play a new game for free.

>>387370354
>this is not about if Doc was going to make AM2R profitable or keep it free as it is
>it's about Nintendo considering if the project was becoming like a official game you actually pay for, despite being non-profit.
>It's not about if the game is free or not
>it's about if you have to pay for the game or not
You're and idiot.

>>387362368
>They refuse to use the Mother 3 fan translation even though it's a better job they could actually do of it.
You can't just take and use someone's fan translation, even if it's your game. Few companies have the balls to ask for permission/license the fan translation too and I doubt Nintendo would put themselves in that position.

It would be terribly embarassing if a fan game made by one guy was better than fabled legend and Game God Sakamoto's games. Nintendo can't allow that to happen now

>>387370803
>>it's about if you have to pay for the game or not
>not "it's about if the thing was going to be like the real thing you pay for, while free."
good argument? nope
brain problems? yes

>>387371281
>the thing was going to be like the real thing you pay for, while free."
Yep, you've got brain problems alright.

>>387371226
AM2R is not better than Super or Zero Mission

>>387368549
>WAAAHHH no I'm not wrong!!

>>387371360
>no u
how about (You)?

>>387371226
>>387368892

>>387371361
it is better than zero mission just not super or fusion

>>387371361
>>387371361
I was implying about the Metroid 2 remake.
Metroid 2 will reek of C string amateur work, ironically AM2R felt like a Nintendo game even though it was made by one guy

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>>387371489
>Fusion is better than Zero Mission

>>387371642
that's some real shit taste, I'm moderately triggered now

>>387371625
Again read above>>387371467

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>>387371834
that reads more like an ad
"immersive 3D effects"? Are you kidding me? Literally NOBODY cares about 3D
""probably"post game" ? lolwut?
intro sequences and a bottom screen map? Yeah, we're getting a true 10/10 gem here folks, it's got all the nifty features you expect from a DS game!
The only thing to look forward to is the soundtrack, I'll give it a pirate and playthrough just to experience that

>>387362368
They've always been cunts like that.

>>387362640
That's the point. They can't do any better so they have to use someone else's IP.

Look at indie games, a fraction of them are decent. The overwhelming amount are horrible. Clearly most people can't create anything original.

Thus fans have to take something else and make their own vision then cry when the owner of the IP tells them to fuck off for stealing.

>>387372215
The bottom screen map is a legitimate plus. It removes the need to constantly be pausing the game to see where you're headed. And i hear the 3D in tihs game is actually really good and it makes the backgrounds pop. Zero mission had some cool post game stuff, dont see why this one wont.

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A better question is why there's more fangames of Nintendo franchises than there are for franchises of other companies

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Did everyone forget the fact that SEGA shut down a ton of fan projects?

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/sega-shuts-down-streets-of-rage-remake

>>387373390
wow, they did it once and never did it again, since you can still download SoR remake on their page right now

>>387362432
If sequels are so good then why can't they be original standalone games?

>>387365514
Nope. 15 year olds who just discovered pirating and think big evil corporations deserve it

>>387373884
>once
Shining Force OSTs got taken down multiple times tho

>>387373291
Because Nintendo games suck and people attempt to make them better.

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>>387375072