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Sonic mania is literally perfe-
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I agree OP, blue spheres is perfect
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I agree OP, Sonic Mania is literally perfect
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>>387340127
If blue spheres are perfect why do they turn red?
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>>387340127
>>387340168


Blue spheres is the shittiest part of mania. Stop denying it.
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>>387340292
It's the best Special Stage from the classics
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>>387340292
this is an 18 and over board kiddo
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>>387340430
Really? I always liked the half pipe with the ring collection.
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Sobbing as usual am I right?
Bonus stages are fun and blue spheres is indeed perfect.
Cry some more casuals.
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>>387340127
This. Can you believe there are some people who don't like Blue Spheres? What kind of shit taste does a person need to have to not like such a simple yet perfect game inside of an already A+ game?

>>387340292
You're the worst part of Mania. It's a game meant to be played and enjoyed and you can't even handle a side game from decades ago. Did you get past level 1 yet wittle babby?

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>>387340065
Yeah, the bonus blue sphere thing was one of the worst parts about 3. Disappointed they brought that over instead of improving on the half-pipe thing from 2.
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I don't get how this is a sequel if it has so many remade areas.
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The objective is to get blue spheres. Simple enough but it never said I can't get the red ones also.
What a shitload of fuck. Shouldn't it just say "Don't get red spheres".
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>>387341192

I dont think you understand what a sequel means
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Fucking hate the spheres if I'm honest, I'd rather have seen a mix of old special stages for the star posts.
Halfpipe being my personal fave, the mazes from 1 were okay too
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Your first console must have been an Xbox.
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>>387341357
>Sequel contains the exact same level as the original game
This is new to me
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Do people actually think blue spheres is hard?
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Is there a video of the green/pink spheres in Sonic Mania? Can't seem to find them anywhere on youtube.
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>>387340801
"If you don't like it, you're underage and casual" is the weakest argument in the god damn world. You should be ashamed of yourself. I'm not even the guy you're trying to ridicule, but that comment was just so fucking stupid I had to interject.

I'm 31 years old, I grew up playing the classic Sonic games. Sonic 3 was the first game I ever pre-ordered. The blue sphere collecting minigame is fucking garbage, and it's easily the worst part of that game.

You say "it's a game meant to be played and enjoyed", and yet enjoyment is the last thing I would say I get from that mini game. Maybe the first 10 seconds or so of each attempt is kind of fun, but then it just gets either dull or stressful. Now I don't know about you, but I don't play games, let alone Sonic games, to be bored or stressed out. I play them to have fun. You know what mini game is fun? The half pipe run in Sonic 2. That's a great minigame; it's fast, it tests your reaction skills, and it's a cool concept that's actually fun to play. It's not perfect, but they could have worked on it and made it better, just like they did with the rest of the game. Instead, they just grabbed a far inferior minigame and shoved it in this one. It's lazy, which is surprising given the love and effort put into the rest of the game.
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>>387340065
lol @ anyone that doesn't even attempt to git gud at blue spheres
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>ufo chase
>finally get to Mach 3
>UFO fucks off so fast I can never catch up even when I take shortcuts
I fucking hate this.
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>>387341192
I guess none of the Kingdom Hearts games are sequels then?
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>>387340065
It was fun back then and it's fun now.

Glad they used it for the generic collectible instead of Emeralds since you now have a shitload of them
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>>387341460
A sequel is based on a continuation of a story not what stages are in a game.
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>>387340292
I'd would rather have Blue Spheres over the Sonic 1 or 2 bonus stages.

Still though, I do kinda wish there was another mini-game or two thrown in at the checkpoints for some variety.
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It's better than the special stages from 1/2 and it's not hard.

But that doesn't mean I have to like it.
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>I just saw this videodunkey video, I am gonna use this to fit in XD
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>>387341556
Yeah. Blue spheres suck, I don't even try to get the bonus stage because it's boring as fuck and there's a delay when you try to turn to when it actually turns. Shitty ass mini game, sonic 2 half pipe was the best compared to blue sphere garbage
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>>387340696
That's the worst one.
Absokute trash.
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Besides, anything is better than the Special Stages in the Advance trilogy.
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>>387341803
I've literally never seen a video of the guy. You do realize people have opinions that other people may have as well right?
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Sonic CD had the best special stages, prove me wrong, you can't, etc.
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>>387341292
Who does he think he is? Jeeeeeeeeeeesus?
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>>387341556
That or other people actually think its a good mini game and you're too blind to know a good game from a bad one. Typical of modern sonic fans desu so I'll spare you some slack.
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Just git gud
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>>387340696
That one is fun until you come over a hill and hit an obstacle that you literally had no time to react to. Or Tails loses your shit.
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>>387340801
I like that unrelated pic
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>>387341512
No one?
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>>387342000
Taxman version? Understandable. OG 1993 version? God no.
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>Want to beat every classic Sonic before Mania
>Never played CD
>Get the Android one
>Have a fucking blast
>Graphics and soundtrack, both versions, are top notch
>Decide to do another playthrough, but get all the time stones
>MFW

HOLY FUCK THIS THE WORST SHIT EVER. It's complete RNG as to whether the UFO decides to move 2 pixels to the left when you jump at them. They spend 99% of their time over the water. I must have failed special stage 5 20 times now. This is some spectacularly unfun bullshit in an otherwise great game. Mania's special stages can't be worse than this.
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The best classic Special Stages are actually Sonic Rush's version of Sonic 2's half-pipe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udb_5-8erw4

The best ACTUAL classic special stages were Blue Spheres, but that was only because Sonic 1's was balls in ass retarded and Sonic 2's stages' controls were slightly broken and unresponsive - Blue Spheres isn't really GOOD, it's just the others are worse. Mania would have been better if it had also included a fixed version of the half-pipe, and the maze might have been ok now that we have drop dash.

For the record, the absolute best special stages are Sonic Rush Adventure's Johnny Races.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_-4M-fDDY
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>>387342319
That is why Blue Spheres is the best special stage of the original three.
It's the most skill based. Whenever you fuck up, it's because YOU fucked up. It wasn't because the world tilted and you fell straight into an exit with no way to stop yourself, and it wasn't because Tails kept running into bombs.
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Shouldn't it say "Don't get red spheres?"
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>>387342162
>Modern Sonic fan
What the hell makes you think I'm a fan of the modern games?
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FUCK. THE. UFO. SPECIAL. STAGES.
Fuck this piece of shit. I'm in Press Garden Act 1 and can't even get past the fourth Special Stage. Fuck the out of bounds shit and fuck the control worse than god damn SRB2.
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>Optional side game
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>>387342705
You're too late.
>>387341292
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>>387340292
Don't get so blue balled about it man.
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>>387340065
>He donesn't like blue spheres
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>>387341292
>>387342705
>HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAAAAT
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>>387342839
>blue balls the game is actually blue balls the game
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>>387341609
the speed thing is a trap. the only thing you should ever be going for are the rings. go for rings and ring boxes, and ignore the spheres, just stick to the UFO. if you go out of your way to try and build the speed meter, you'll just waste time and the ufo will get faster. once the UFO starts going fast, it becomes impossible to win, considering it cheats and takes shortcuts across the borders of the map
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>>387340065
>he doesn't like blue sphere

what keeps it for perfection is the first stage of saloon zone. why waste a new zone with flying shit?
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Does blue sphere still have the same theme? Always loved the music back in sonic 3 during it.
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>>387343071
yes
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>>387340065
-ct
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>>387343071

Yeah its still as shitty as ever just like the mini game.
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>>387342797
They definitely should have included the half-pipe and the maze as alternate options, but ultimately you're right in that it really doesn't detract from the game in any way.
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>>387342927
Even I learned as a kid to avoid the red spheres after touching one unceremoniously booted you out of the stage. What I didn't learn until much later on in life was turning the spheres into rings by grabbing the corners of blue sphere formations.
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ITT: Brainlets
https://youtu.be/9XAGarhWyyU
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>>387340801
I wanna be that necklace
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Anything new with the Special Stages? I know Sonic and Knuckles added Yellow Spheres that make you bounce far up.
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>>387341487
The standard emerald stages in 3&K aren't. Mania has some pretty damn hard blue sphere stages, though.
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>>387342669
>best

Though you're technically correct, it's kinda like congratulating a midget for being taller than a toddler.

1's was fucking balls, though it may have been bearable with some fine tuning regarding the psychedelic colors and the rotation speeds (and now with Flying/Climbing/Drop Dash, it might actually be playable)

2's was easily the most fun and fits thematically with Sonic more than the others, but Tails and some shitty stage design let it down. If the second player was locked to being behind Sonic, and if the level design rewarded skill more than memorization by removing the bombs around hills, it'd be much better (Sonic Rush already did this, and it's fantastic).

3's is playable, but it's boring as fuck.
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>>387343481
Not really, except for the fact that they no longer give out Chaos Emeralds for completion (that's for the Big Rings that lead to the "Catch the UFO" game). Instead, completing Blue Spheres hands out tokens of some kind. Not sure what they do just yet.
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>>387343481
Nope, the gameplay is the exact same.

The only difference is the jingle once you complete it, and the chaos emerald graphic is now a token graphic.
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>>387340292
the chaos emerald race is worse.
its flawed by design, using the "pimped" mode 7 added nothing to it cant see where some track split since the wall is ground level.
if you take a jump on the ramp and you land on the a second ramp instead of making you jump a second time it act like a fucking bumper wall and throw you back.

yellow and red mines in front of a yellow and red ramp? Genius.

i dropped the game at the 4th emerald.
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>>387342575
Here's a protip: the blue UFO gives you time when you break it. If you keep breaking it, you can't run out of time.

Alternatively, just go to past and get the good futures manually for every stage.
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>>387341725
Sonic 1s bonus stages were kinda fun, but FUCK Sonic 2s stages.
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>>387340430

Sure, but it works in the original context when you have to go out of your way to find them and your reward is a Chaos Emerald.

When you're given one every checkpoint and the rewards are far less exciting it's hard to care. On top of that, the stages take so long that they break the flow of the game if you stop to do even most of them
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Ring loss mechanics, insta-kills, Oil Ocean Act 2 Boss having a huge difficulty spike and content being locked behind a mediocre and dull minigame brings Mania down to a 8/10.
I'd complain about revising far too many old stages with very few new ones, but for the price paid for the game, it's worth what it is.
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>>387343481
It supposedly have the new green and pink spheres that only available on extras. Heard it from another anon so don't know if it's true yet.
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>>387342667
back then i kept hearing "die sonic commit a suicide" in the sampled vocals
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>>387343793

So its an 8/10 because you can't git gud?
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>>387343585
>Not sure what they do just yet.

They unlock extras.

So far I've gotten CD's Peel-Out, Sonic 3's insta-shield, and & Knuckles mode.

Don't get too hyped though. Peel-Out and Insta-Shield can only be used in "No Save" mode, and they can't be combined with each other or with the Drop Dash. And & Knuckles mode is cute but all it lets you do differently is replace Tails with Knuckles.
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>>387340065
>get the stage that's literally the first chaos emerald blue sphere stage from Sonic 3

Easy gold medals m8. But yeah I bail on any that I know I can easily fuck up getting a perfect on
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>>387343936
how do I activate the peel out and instashield?
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>>387343938
Perfects don't unlock anything as far as we no. Extras are tied to silvers
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>>387342763
they're actually pretty easy. The 5th one is the only hard one. 6th and 7th are piss easy by comparison. I was expecting garbage for those.
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>>387343793
>Oil Ocean Act 2 Boss having a huge difficulty spike
I beat oil ocean act 2 boss first try

why do people suck?

you do know you can go in the oil right?
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>>387340065
>Super Sonic still gets rid of the music
>Super Sonic can't be cancelled or saved for later
>Sonic can't transform when he has a shield
>Knuckles and Tails can't glide or fly without turning into Super Sonic

There's a LOT of cues I wish Taxman could have taken from Sonic 3 Complete.
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>>387344067
When you've got your cursor on "no save" one of the buttons is "secrets", from there you can toggle Sonic's action between Mania (drop dash), 3&K (insta-shield), or CD (super peel-out). You have to select the one you want.

Insta-Shield is just pressing jump again in the air. It makes your hitbox a bit bigger, letting you hit things slightly further away. Super peel-out is hold up and press jump on the ground, I believe.
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>>387343793
>Ring loss mechanics
This has been a staple since the first Sonic - you get rewarded for keeping rings if you're not shit. There's also more shields in this game than ever before, and there's even an item to help you pick up more rings if you DO get hit.

>insta-kills
Ultimately there's very few in the game - even compared to the classics - though you're right in that they could be removed.

>Oil Ocean Act 2 Boss
Ok why in the fuck does anyone think this is difficult? He telegraphs his attacks SO hard, and once you realize the small balls he's spitting out are hitting you the boss is a cake walk.

I mean, Mania definitely isn't perfect (though it is great), there's a lot of little things that could be better or were missed - but what you're complaining about is literally just an example of someone who should get good.
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>>387344147


I beat the whole game without losing a life. You are trash.
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>>387343936
the main appeal is Knuckles & Knuckles mode I guess.

>>387344067
When you highlight no-save, there's a button to activate secrets. You can choose Drop Dash, Super Peelout or Insta-shield. If you mean actual button shit, Super peelout is up+jump on the ground and insta shield is just jump again while in midair.
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>>387344228
>>Knuckles and Tails can't glide or fly without turning into Super Sonic
just get a fucking shield, and, here's the mindblowing part:
dont get hit
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>OOZ Act 2
>Smog coming and losing rings
>Enter a bonus stage and smog resets

Who else /ABSOLUTELYDEVILISH/ here!?
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>>387344278
>It makes your hitbox a bit bigger, letting you hit things slightly further away.

You forgot it also removes energy based projectiles if you activate it properly. It wasn't a fantastic ability or anything, but it was pretty neat.
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>>387344147
It's harder as knuckles because you don't jump as high. If you aren't careful you can lose all your rings in the oil in 1 hit, get dragged under with a platform, or get stuck underneath and raped by bullets because you can't get out of the oil.
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>>387344313
the only boss I had issues with was Flying Battery act 2's, and that's only because lol physics
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>>387344481

Hello DSP
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Titanic Monarch 2 feels like a shitty freedom planet level.
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>>387344228
>>Knuckles and Tails can't glide or fly without turning into Super Sonic
>Knuckles and Tails
>Into Super Sonic
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>>387344425
didn't it do more damage to a boss too?
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>unlock Blue Sphere in extras
>yeah okay whatever
>wait why does this have a setting
>Mania mode
>fucking green and purple spheres and teleporting and having to go over shit multiple times to make it blue
Good Lord.
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>>387340696
Half-pipe is fine too but it's been so overused over the years with blue spheres never getting any attention that it's nice to finally have it back for once.

I do feel like they should've implemented it differently though as it's slightly annoying having to encounter it so frequently. Maybe it might've been better if they had the bonus level rotate between half-pipe stages and blue spheres.
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>this entire fucking soundtrack
Holy fucking shit
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>hydrocity
WHO THE FUCK ASKED FOR THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE
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>>387344369
>just get a fucking shield
I specified that SONIC can't transform when he has the shield. Knuckles and Tails still do.

Ding-dong.

>>387344530
You get my point
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Somebody please tell me if the checkpoints only give you bonuses you haven't perfected yet once you've cleared them all. Before I cleared them all it only gave me ones I hadn't done. I don't remember which ones I got perfect on.
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I did my goddamn time playing Sonic 3 & Knuckles as a kid. The blue spheres minigame just isn't fun at all, and I wouldn't have touched it if you didn't get the Chaos Emeralds from it. I liked pretty much every minigame in S3&K more than the spheres. It doesn't help that so many of them are the same ones from that game.
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>>387343936
You can also unlock extra modes like standalone Puyo Puyo and a dedicated Blue Spheres mode
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>>387344671
I would have been okay with it but it's almost 1:1 carbon copy down to the music and no mania exclusive stage gimmick.
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>>387344671
Act 2 is good, but act 1 is a trash fire.
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>Mfw Mettallic Madness

I wasn't really that hyped for this zone but goddamn it was so perfect. Think it was probably my favourite zone in the game.
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>>387344631
>Maybe it might've been better if they had the bonus level rotate between half-pipe stages and blue spheres.

This. 100x this.

Actually, make it even easier.

If you pass the checkpoint while in the air, you get a ring leading to Blue Spheres.

If you pass the checkpoint while on the ground, you get a ring leading to Half Pipe.
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>>387344731
you get medals regardless of if you've cleared i before or not.
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>>387344939
>Great remix
>Improved the stage vastly over the mess it was in CD
It's the most improved. The boss is great too.
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One good thing about Oil Ocean Zone is that it's late enough in the game you should have all the emeralds and can fucking speed right through it in a minute
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Gen Z can't into blue spheres. Why?
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>getting squeezed by the moving stairs in the chemical plant and dying multiple times

How do I stop sucking at this game, bros?
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>>387344846
boats bubbles and water levels
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>>387340065
I swear these sections controls are fucked, it'll drop inputs when it feels like
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>Tfw actually liked Sonic 1's pinball special stages
>Everyone thinks they're the worst
They were the only ones where it felt like I was still playing a Sonic game.
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>>387344996
I know, but I want gold medals. There's no point to even playing a bonus stage I've already got a perfect on.

Or do you mean I could get perfect on the same stage 20 times and it would give me 20/24 gold medals?
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>>387344481
Flying Battery was when I started getting annoyed at having Tails follow me, since having him spin around on the poles with me made it harder to tell when to jump off, and he kept knocking the Act 2 boss away from the spikes.
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>>387343912
What is she holding?
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>>387340065
I don't understand why so many people absolutely despise those levels.

They are by far the best bonus stages and the music was got tier too.
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>>387345117
Didn't you play sonic 2? That part is pretty much identical.
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>>387345117
git gud
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>>387344671
>Standing next to an air pocket for twenty fucking seconds before it spits out a bubble I can breathe with

Awesome. Glad to see they kept that great feature from Sonic & Knuckles.
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>>387345192
Hold the direction you want to jump off on and you'll go there every time. It was like this in the original too.
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WHY NOBODY UPLOADS ANY VIDEOS OF THE GREEN AND PINK SPHERES?
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>>387345370
It's been around since Sonic 1.
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>>387345153
They'd actually be ok now that Drop Dash is back.
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>>387344313
>Ring loss mechanics
My complaint was that they were made to be far more forgiving in Mania.

>Oil Ocean Act 2 Boss
The complication is primarily in how vast comparison it can be rough on players compared to later fights in the game.
Admittedly, the worst boss is the Final Final Boss since it's far less interesting than anything else in the game and is just a round of bumper cars leading up to a conclusiontying in to Sonic Forces.
The regular final boss is better, but not by much. Feels like they compiled together a bunch of boss battles they'd worked bits and pieces on but felt they didn't fit their respective zones. Given how awkward they feel, I understand that.
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>>387345428
>is back
the fuck are you talking about
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>>387344481
same, I had to play flying battery like 5 times
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>>387345108
delayed input on HD tvs
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>>387345153
I smiled when I saw the 3D fish from the Sonic 1 special stages in the UFO stage
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>>387344731
Once you've at least gotten all silvers you'll only get stages that you haven't gotten a gold on yet.
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>>387345389
Must have forgotten about it. Granted, I think S&K only used them briefly. It certainly didn't have you fighting enemies or trying to navigate through electrified wires.
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>>387345416
no one has lived to tell the tale
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Fucking finally
I hope it's a legit torrent
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>MFW getting into the oil in Oil Ocean with a flame-shield.
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>The reward for getting all medals is Blue Sphere stage select
B R A V O
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>>387345636
forgot pic
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>>387345695
Try it on mania mode.
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>>387340065
Taxman Sonic 1-3+CD on PC and Switch when?
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>>387345108
they don't realize it's a puzzle

they think of it like a twitch challenge
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>>387345715
Seems legit
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I don't mind blue sphere but in Mania it's pointless.

There's literally no reason to ever play it. You don't get power ups, you don't get lives. You don't get continues or emeralds. It's coins that don't do anything

Complete waste. They could have given us the capsule or slot minigames and made Blue Sphere and unlockable mini game you can play when you want from Extras instead
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>>387345636
>>387345715
oh sweet, Dolphin Porn Mania is out
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>>387341609
Get rings first, then build speed and don't fall
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>>387345873
>Don't do anything
They unlock all the extras you fucking dolt.
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>>387344513
>>387344671
Second half of the game is definitely weaker.
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I've never finished a 2D Sonic game before.
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blue sphere are awesome, a nice puzzle element that incorporates platforming as well as having a banging soundtrack. Way better than the trash special stages in 1/2
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>>387345192
pro-tip: the poles aren't timing based. just hold the direction you want to go and press the jump button
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>>387345695
Does the bluesphere mode work like in the original? As in infinite stages thru seednumber, or its just the 32 stages?
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>>387343717
>Somebody is this frustrated at the special stages
>Meanwhile I can get at least 4 emeralds by chemical plant
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>he prefers halfpipe over blue sphere
Come back when you have some taste, fella
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>>387341512
>>387342481
Yes in the unlockable blue sphere mode you get from getting medals. I don't know if they function the same as the ones you're referring to though. Never played it myself.
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So every Act has a special stage with an Emerald? So you can miss ones out and still get Super Sonic?
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>>387346128
im at the 5th emerald btw
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>>387346128
getting 4 is easy. The 5th is unanimously agreed upon to be the hardest one to get. The 6th and 7th emeralds are a cakewalk by comparison.
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>>387345715
the game isnt 500MB big on console
hell its around 120MB on the switch
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>>387346297
Yeah I agree on the 5th one. I just can't believe someone thinks these are bad special stages though.
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Blue spheres are horrible but Sonic games were never good, especially after the first level or two. The parts where you have to go slow in Sonic suck but so does holding down to run through an entire level. Sonic has always been mediocre with some installments less mediocre than others. The music was at least usually fun and Mania's music is pretty nice.
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>>387346098
from checkpoints I think there's only a pool of so many, because I've gotten the same stages several times.
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>>387346232
There are 2-3 onion rings in each act I believe
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>>387343558
I always found blue sphere was the most fun of the bunch if you ever waited until max speed before collecting a bunch of shit. The feeling of precision as you make perfectly timed turns to avoid death always excited the fuck out of me.
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>Robotnik doesn't have his Final Boss AI from Mean Bean Machine in Chemical Plant.

Awww.
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>>387343707
Is it me, or is it slightly different? In the originals, I don't remember having to get all the rings before the blue spheres to get a perfect. As in, if there is 9 blue spheres in a square, with 9 rings to go, you don't automatically get the rings when you complete the square. I'm sure you did in the originals.
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>>387346297

6th gave me the hardest time. 5th was easy for me. 4 gave me some trouble though
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>>387346297
The 5th was the hardest for me, but by the time I was doing my Knuckles playthrough, I was able to get all the emeralds by FBZ act 1, and that's mainly because I couldn't find a lot of big rings in Studiopolis.
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>>387346232
There's 1-2 Giant Ring per act, at most 3
You can probably get Super Sonic by Flying Battery
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>>387340065
>muh underage!!!!
>c-casuals!!!!
>LMAO GIT GUT XDDD
I never enjoyed the balls stages, they were really hit or miss, but the game is fun, at least.
And here I thought classic sanicfags were the elite that were untouched by sanic autism, how naive.
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>>387346476
>I'm sure you did in the originals.
No, that was also a thing in the original
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>>387346476
No, you still had to get the rings.
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>>387346390

They're not very good in my opinion. Mostly because Sonic controls like ass.in them. The objective is easy enough though.
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>>387340065

Ehat kind of faggy child doesn't like special stages?
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>>387346476
getting a perfect in S3&K just got you continues.
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>>387346434
A meme based on the overall incompetence of sonic team compared to this masterpiece made by someone else and nothing more, honestly.
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>>387346434
I'll tell you if you stop trying to make me more than fur-curious.
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>>387346547
If anything the threads leading up to Mania proved that classicfags are just as autistic as modernfags
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>>387346476
I remember leaving small isolated blue spheres for last specifically to get a perfect.
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Anyone know how many medals I need to unlock & Knuckles Mode? That's the only thing I want out of this.
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>>387346591
I found that once you reach mach 2 and especially 3, you'll want to jump around corners as much as possible. That helped a lot with controlling Sonic's direction.
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OK what the fuck is the secret to Blue Sphere all you niggers make it out to be easy
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>>387346385
According to steam, the pc version is 400 mb. Tho yeah it might be fake, specially since theres no seeds.
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>>387346853
The secret is to _________git gud___
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>>387346829
I think 12 silver ones? Or 11. Probably 12 since that's a rounder number. Maybe 14.
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>>387346853
Turn into a red sphere to reach the end of the level quickly
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>>387346853
Simply, you must be patient, thats all.
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>>387346853
Get good.
Not even memeing, you just need to keep doing them until they become second nature. The only tips I can think of off the top of my head are:
* Anticipate when you're about to speed up.
* Don't worry about perfects until you can actually beat a level with regularity.
* Convert blocks of spheres to rings to reduce the overall number of red spheres you can run into. You don't need to collect the rings unless you're going for perfects (see above)
* Don't panic.
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KNOCK KNOCK IT'S KNUCKLES
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has anyone gotten higher than mach 3 in the special stages?
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>>387347196
MY COCK GOES THROUGH BOULDERS
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>>387346870
>specially since theres no seeds.
There is seeds. TPB just isn't reporting it correctly
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>>387347282
nope and I cant fucking beat them either. the lack of savestates is going to drive me insane when I try to actually beat those and the retarded orb stages
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>>387347282
you can't, after mach 3 it just gives you a bonus everytime you fill the meter up again.
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>>387347282
Mach 3 is the max speed. Filling up the meter again just adds more bonus points.
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>>387347369
pathetic emulator baby
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>>387347404
>>387347369
That's fucking lame, i want to go FAST. or at least FASTER than mach 3.
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>>387347369
The genesis didn't have savestates and we did it just fine then too.
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>>387345807
I heard Mania started off as another Taxman port until Iizuka told them to put new stuff in it.
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Well fuck, the rars aren't extracting
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>>387347495
>we
I didn't, I just skipped that shit.
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>>387347520
It's already too late. I'll never forget you anon.
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Which remixed Zone in Mania is the most rehauled?
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>>387344595
Thanks doc
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>Sonic 1 Game Gear
>Sonic Chaos
>Triple Trouble (Sonic stages)
I liked these because they felt more like special stages than minigames, like i'm still playing the main game style.
>Sonic 3d Blast
>Sonic 3/S&K
>Sonic CD
These all felt fun even if they were minigames. I might have liked Sonic Advanced 2's SSs, but collecting those medals with anyone but Tails was bullshit.
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>>387347348
Good luck then, if it works please make a MEGA link.
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>>387347196

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WosV9Y4l79Y

guess who's out of jail hill zone
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>>387347710
Metallic madness, it turned one of the worst zones in the series into one of the best zones in Mania, it got so much better it's insane.
The added gimmicks like the background stage really help spicing it up.
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>>387347520
That's not very surprising.
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>>387347520
nvrmind haven't updated winrar in forever they extracted now
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>>387340292
Nah, they're fine. The boss battles are the worst part of it, by far.
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>>387346930
Thanks. Guess it's still less than the 14 you need to beat for the Super Emeralds, and if I managed to put up with that like three dozen times over the years, I can put up with this.
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>>387347946
what's in the folder
>inb4 thousands of Iizuka images
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>>387344228
You CAN transform with a shield. They changed it
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>>387347520
>videos/Opening.ogv
>is the sonic cd opening
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Well I've been foiled
It seems to be the Steam version of Sonic CD with an icon of Sonic Mania redirecting you to the steam page
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>>387347808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXglHbYB1Y4
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>>387347337
THIS IS KNUCKLES, GONNA FIGHT FOR NICO NICO NI

Nico Nico Nii~~~
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>>387347710
Mettallic Madness by far. It was so fucking good.
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>>387346098
There is 32, You only need to actually get Silver to unlock everything, Gold is just for trophies / streetcred!
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How's that Time Attack going, anon?
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>>387348101
Cuz of course it is, how much you wanna bet some troll her did this?
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>tfw I found out about the Sound Test mode
I'm going to do nothing but listen to Mirage Saloon on repeat until I get sick.
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Beat it just under an hour ago as Sonic and Tails and it's easily on par with 3&K, maybe better even.

Have to try out a Knuckles playthrough later. I'm really looking forward to playing as Knuckles in this game, especially since I heard his route is a bit different.
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Anyone check if there were any secrets in the D.A. Garden or Stage Select yet?

Anyone try codes from Sonic CD and Sonic 2 and stuff?
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>>387348510
You're going to hate Oil Ocean if you're anything like me.
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>>387348510
Haven't made it very far as him, but he seems to start in different spots of some stages. Green Hill starts you in a little area that helps tutorialize Knuckles' abilities, presumably for people that hadn't played the older games. It's still the same level, though.
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>>387344949
Why didn't they just have different special stages depending on your ring count like S3K?
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>>387348336

I don't think it's possible anon

I've had it on repeat for the last hour
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>>387340696
>>387340065
If you had trouble and did not git gud at it like every fucking kid did when that game was released. You're really are the reason games are shit now today. Learn to get better at the game nigger. You literally outed yourself as a fucking idiot casual for not being able to finish all the bonus stages to unlock Super Hyper Sonic.

kys k thnx
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most kino moment ever
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>>387342575
get good enough at time attack to unlock the special stages in it

then get good at the special stages

>mfw casuals
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>>387348315
>how much you wanna bet some troll her did this?
I thought about that but it's most likely some sort of spambot.
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>>387348869
Why did Eggman put Sonic's control panel lower so he could reach it, despite being his archenemy?
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>>387341556
old post but the sonic 2 halfpipes were trial-and-error memorization

If you had the reflexes you could bumble around in 3's special stages at crazyspeed until you found the spheres you missed
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>>387340292
>The worst part of Mania is a great special stage
Nice, this game is perfect!
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>>387348976
How's he going to revel in his defeat of Sonic if he didn't win fair and square?
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>>387348976
Honestly, Robotnik seems more like the kind of guy that does it for fun. Sure he wants to win, but at the same time he wants to give Sonic a chance.

There's so much shit he could've done ages ago that would be unstoppable if he wanted to.
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>>387341809
the delay is because you only turn at the corners of the checker pattern. With that in mind you can play at faster speeds no prob by buffering your inputs
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>>387348869
Why is Eggman so lovable in this game?
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>>387340065
I love this minigame, WTF.
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>>387348976
The same reason why Eggman went out of his way to save sonic from going in to lava when he could have just let die.
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>>387348976
He wanted somebody to play puyo puyo with.
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Holy fuck the Sonic Mania special stages are more like Puzzles than anything.

If you don't get that speed boost in Stage 5 you're pretty much screwed.
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>>387349132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLyKKXFe2HY

He's a gigantic goofball in Mania. I love him.
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>>387349132

Dr. Robotnik was always lovable in the original games.

SEGA is just a trash company.
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>>387348739
Jesus Christ man, I just said I liked the half pipe.
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>>387347808
I can't believe this is happening

Fucking 2017 man
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>>387349253
>Suddenly rip & tear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cPPRz0DnF0
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I fucking hate Blue Sphere
But the song is so good
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>ends with an actually fun Super Sonic boss where just bum rushing it doesn't work
THIS GAME JUST WONT STOP
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>>387345873
>Blue Sphere and unlockable mini game you can play when you want from Extras instead

It is you retard.

You unlock it by getting the coins from Blue Sphere in the main game.
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can someone tell me what the fuck is the deal with the true final boss
why is it so shit? why are the controls so terrible? why are there no rings and why does your ability use so many? WHY THE FUCK CAN YOU GET HURT AND LOSE RINGS AS MOTHERFUCKING SUPER SONIC? HOW THE FUCK DO YOU FIND AN OPENING ON THE GAY ROBOT NIGGER?
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>>387349108
>There's so much shit he could've done ages ago that would be unstoppable if he wanted to.

Archie Eggman kinda embodies this, except he DID do the shit and he's pretty much unstoppable.
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>>387349591
is this your first sonic game
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>Lava Reef Act 2 music
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Ok so does anyone know how many Secret Rings are in which stages?

So far, I know there's:

1 Ring in GHZ 1
3 Rings in GHZ 2

and I've found 1 in CPZ 1 and 2 in CPZ2, but that's all I know so far.
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>>387349591

should've just remade doomsday zone
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Blue Spheres is too tedious to be a bonus.
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>>387349591
it's fucking easy, you just have to be patient
also rings spawn automatically at the bottom of the area
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>>387349776
Stardust Speedway Act 2 has 2
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>My fucking face when Fang the Sniper
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>>387349776
I found 2 in press garden act 1
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>>387346297
I thought the fourth one was the most difficult.
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>>387348131
THE CUM OF KNUCKLES FLOWS INSIDE ME
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>>387340292
I agree. There's already good new special stages, why rehash these?
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>beat Mean Bean boss
>game fucks up and im stuck in the wall and cant move
>happens twice

fuck this
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>>387349292
They bring out more of him in Mania with stuff like the scuba diving, the train, bean machine and even the animated shots of him in Studiopolis.

In the other games it's just him fighting in a robot or running away. I think Eggman was the best he's ever been in Mania.
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>>387349453
>Fist Bump starts to play

Only Tee Lopes could make me feel nostalgic for a game that's not released yet and that I will most likely not even play.
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>>387349776
GHZ1 has another one for Knux only
Chemical Plant also has at least 2
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>>387350063
>Chemical Plant also has at least 2
*Act 1
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>>387350025

I'm not exactly happy with the ending there. While you can probably play Sonic Forces without playing Sonic Mania and it'll feel more or less complete, Sonic Mania feels like it has it's conclusion locked behind another game.

It kinda leaves a sour taste in my mouth after such a good game. Not enough for me to dislike the game at all, but I definitely would have preferred a conclusion in Mania, and maybe a thread tying Mania to Forces instead of not even trying to have an ending in Mania.
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>>387348869
>when your young cousins begs you to play their favorite game and you finally give in
>>
>all of press gardens
>hydrocity act 2
>mirage saloon being short
God fucking damn it I want a perfect fucking game.
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>>387341292
>>387342927
>>387342705
>Shouldn't it just say "Don't get red spheres".

SONIC IS FUCKING BLUE! you have to get the blue spheres.
Knuckes is a villian and like Eggman both are fucking RED!
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>>387346434
am I furry if I want to fuck that ass?
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The Sega Forum was a mistake

this guy wants to fuck Amy btw
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>>387340292
(You) are the shittiest part of Blue Spheres The game is good, you just kinda suck at it, dood.
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>>387349776
>>387349856
>>387349892
>>387350063

Sonic's Secret Rings
>GHZ
Act 1: 1
Act 2: 3

>CPZ
Act 1: 2
Act 2: 1

>SSZ
Act 2: 2

>PGZ
Act 1: 2

Knuckles Secret Rings
>GHZ
Act 1: 2
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>Start Game. Hear mother fucking Angel Island theme, about to have a major orgasm. Cutscene happen and set back to Green Hill Zone.

Fuck the developers, Fuck Sega, and Fuck whoever love that over use Zone.
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>>387350403
Who doesn't?
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>>387350001
>beat Mean Bean boss
>Sonic clips through the floor or something and just dies

why
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>>387350731
Angel island is unmemorable as fuck and feels somehow more generic than greenhill.
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Can only sonic get the true ending?

I got all chaos emeralds with Tails and nothing
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>>387350758
Eggsman is a sore loser
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>>387350731
Whitehead already said Angel Island is confirmed for the next game, though they'll make sure to have more new stages than old ones. So you can unbunch your panties.
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>>387350851
Tails and Knux get jack shit.
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>>387350851
Well yeah, Sonic's the one getting sent to Forces, not Tails.
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>>387350854
>next game
Source?
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>>387349776
I found 4 in the first Zone
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>>387350854
>next game
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My only option to play Mania currently is a king toaster laptop. If it managed to run Taxman's Sonic CD, it should be able to run Mania fine too, right?
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>First playthrough
>hate the ufo levels
>2nd playthrough
>start realizing the nuances in how to optimize the UFO levels
>they are now my favorite bonus stage in sonic games
Basically, I feel like the people who complain about ufo/blue-sphere just suck ass at them.
>>
I'm not sure if I triggered some sort of cheat code or glitch, but at the end of my last session each jump I was making made a ring collect sound effect instead of the jump sound effect.

I was trying to see if any passwords worked in D.A. Garden soundtest (2,0,1,7,0,8,1,5 for example), or if the Tails to Miles name trick worked on the title screen (Up, Down, Down, Down, Up)
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>>387349776
Seen 2 in Press Garden Act 1 but no idea how to get them.
Seen 1 in Desert Dazzle on the train but no idea how to get it when playing Sonic Alone.

Can't find anymore as i appear to be shit at finding them.
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Yeah, why isn't there a sunken Death Egg zone in it? Unless that's being saved for the inevitable sequel, I'd be down for that.
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>>387350832
>unmemorable as fuck
>The Green Hill of S3 is on fire after barely 2 minutes.
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legit torrent where, I'm full on dolphin porn
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>>387340065
tfw
> Bringing back Fang, Bean and Bark
> They are just illusions and contribute nothing new to the plot
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>>387351116
Practising the ufo chase special stages using a certain mode, I gotta say they're fantastic and reward skill, the nuances count and it builds upon what made the previous best special stages the best.
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>>387350438
The game is fantastic, but he's right in that Blue Spheres is pretty lackluster. It's the best of the classic special stages, but it's not exactly fun.

Then again, Sonic's Special stages have ranged from god fucking atrocious to just bland up until Sonic Rush, with maybe the exception of Sonic 1 for Game Gear and Pocket Adventure.
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>>387351116
Jumping and turning in mid air is so fast and fluid to take sharp turns. If you do shit right you don't even need to be that fast to catch the UFO
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So was this whole game an illusion?
>main item is the phantom ruby, phantom i.e ghost or figment of imagination
>phantom ruby's power is unexplained but appears to mysteriously teleport you to other zones and change appearances, such as egg robos becoming heavies
>this could be the ruby simply creating images to sonic and friends
>final zone is egg reverie, a reverie being a daydream
>eggman may want this ruby to create a dream world of some sort for him to rule over
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>>387351116
my only issue with the ufo stages are how some of the possible shortcuts are blocked by invisible walls that are difficult to identify
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i love this game but my autism is making me angry that there's no coherent story and level transitions are inconsistent
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>>387351156
>Desert Dazzle on Train

Oh man you're going to kick yourself.

Just jump into it from above. The left side of the train is open, just jump off and hold right.
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>>387351251
It's weird how Sonic the Hedgehog's special stages are both iconic, but heavily criticised.

I will never enjoy Sonic 2's halfpipe, it's too much memorisation and blind turns.
>>
Jun Senoe's songs were more badass than Tee Lope's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVxRbaUV-HM
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>>387351280
Would be nifty but nope.

This game's just an alteration of the timeline. Eggman confirms it in Forces, when he states that the small Sonic in Forces is a pint-sized Sonic from another dimension (instead of Past-Sonic).
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>>387351390
I'll never understand this view.

Only like the last 2 half pipe levels are even hard and require maybe one or two attempts to remember not to stand X or Y next time.

There are blue sphere stages that have awkward little positioning that require more trial and error attempts than the half pipe even does
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>>387344530
>Knuckles and Tails can't glide or fly without turning into Super Sonic

What? I'm pretty sure I've seen Knuckles glide in footage.
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>>387351441
Jun Senoe's Sonic 4 tracks were not memorable or a good hark back to what made the original trilogy's music stand out.

They rely on certain Genesis instruments heavily to a fault and don't have a catchy melody.
Like, there's a reason that Sonic 3D Blast music sounded good in Sonic Adventure, it was a good fucking song period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-XbOLmrIhc
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>>387350609
I can confirm that GHZ1 has at least 3 special rings (found with debug mode)
It's on the lowest possible path accessible to Sonic and Co
debug mode tells you screen position (top row) and cursor position (bottom row)
I'll list the screen positions here (for people who want to check):
1st (KTE): 076D 04CA
2nd (low path): 1EBA 04FI
3rd (the regular path one): 3797 0387
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>>387351628
He means if you tap jump a second time to glide you'll turn into super Knuckles when maybe you don't want to
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GG are playing the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql5WqCksQhQ
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>>387351656
I agree that his 3D Blast music was better. Not sure why he restricted himself as much as he did with Sonic 4
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>>387351847
So?
Why would I want to watch a 12 minute segment of two chucklefucks rambling and not actually playing the game?
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>>387342705
>spend 30 minutes avoiding red spheres
>nothing happens

WTF IS THIS SHIT!???
Sonic was never good. Fuck this "hold right" to win shitfest.
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>>387351941
It might've been poor direction from Sega.

I mean Sonic 4 and Sonic Mania were both nostalgia pandering, but the decision making and thought process, as well the development skill and talent behind each are so disparate they produced such vastly different results.
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I'm convinced that Press Garden and Titanic Monarch are each actually two zones stitched together to meet deadlines, and that at some point we were supposed to have 5/6 "new" zones instead of 4. Half of Titanic Monarch's assets look like they belong to Chrome Gadget (which while not technically new, never had a single-player outing) while the other half don't mesh with those assets and look like they belong to Final Fever, the scrapped potential final zone Taxman wanted to add to the CD port. Similarly, Press Garden Act 1 has the strange but interesting press/media theme, but very little of the garden theme except the odd pile of leaves, whereas the second act just drops the press thing altogether (despite it being in the name?) and goes wild with the snowy sakura flower garden theme.

I like both zones, but something about them strikes me as being both less polished and less tonally consistent than Studiopolis or Mirage Saloon. I really feel like in the original design documents, these two stages were actually supposed to be four: Press stage, Sakura stage, Chrome Gadget Zone and Final Fever zone.
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>>387351390
They're all really memorable because you need to go through them in order to get the true ending, as well as them all GENERALLY being so different from the regular gameplay that it doesn't blend in with any of the stages.

They're criticized for the same reason as Big the Cat in Sonic Adventure is - it changes up the gameplay drastically for little reason meaning it's not the same game we bought anymore, and ultimately it's usually either not fun or broken.

A few of them are pretty decent.

Sonic 1 (GG) is just a regular Sonic running around a stage with TONS of Springs, which is pretty alright.
Pocket Adventure is the half-pipe with a little less memorization, less blind turns, and no tails to fuck you over.
Rush's is the same as Pocket Adventure, but with even better controls.
Rush Adventure's is a way better version of the forward facing ring collecting race, without any fucking around with the camera view.

Mania's is built from the ground up and they put a lot of effort into it instead of just shoehorning it in like all the others. There's a bit of strategy that can go into it, and we're able to see the target up front and don't get stuck with tunnel vision or such a close up view of the stage like so many others, so it's actually fun.
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>>387352061
Very true. Forces uses a genesis-like sound for it's classic stages and I'm not sure how I feel about that. But I'm sure Tomoya Ohtani will give us some good new tunes
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>>387351942
That's exactly the reaction I was hoping for.

I like how Arin "pretends" to not know what he's doing either.
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YOU HAVE GONE TOO FAR TAXUMAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfgnO8UWZzE
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>>387352089
There has to be at least one new zone that was cut, because the Heavy Biker shows up in an old zone while the others are all bosses in the new zones.
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>>387341487
It is if you're using analog sticks.
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>>387340065
Those stages always made me feel really disoriented. It's the only time a video game ever made me feel somewhat sick just playing it.
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>>387348739
>git gud at a fucking minigame
Get over yourself
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>the spider boss
Took me one try on my sonic playthrough
On my knuckles playthrough he has given me a game over (7 deaths) twice
Fuck the fact that you literally can't run through the spinner without grabbing onto it.
Fuck getting squished by spikes
Fuck getting bounced into spikes
Fuck the spider blocking rings

What a stupid bullshit boss
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>>387351942
>Why would I want to watch a 12 minute segment of two chucklefucks rambling and not actually playing the game?

Why are you posting here and not actually playing the game?
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>>387351364
MOTHER FUCKER
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>>387352403
Some of the bosses are just poorly made. The spider is a great example of one which relies a lot on getting stupidly lucky

Sometimes you can propel into the spider but not hit him into the spikes, because taxman can't program.
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Only problem I have with Blue Spheres as the bonus stage is that they last too long
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>>387341292
Sup, DSP
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>>387352403
It's not the boss's fault.

Knuckles doesn't jump as high as Sonic. That's why you're having a hard time here. You're just not compensating for Knuckles jump height.
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Being as honest as possible, which console should I get Mania on? I've been waiting for PC just because, but I also have Switch and idk if this thing is on PS4 but I have that, too.

Switched "seems" ideal because I'd have it on the go forever, but idk?

HELP
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>>387340065
blue sphere is fine, what actually keeps sonic mania from perfection is titanic monarch being such a slog
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>>387352603
wait for PC
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>>387352089
>Press Garden doesn't fit the theme
>Press Garden
>Act 1 is about a printing press
>Act 2 is about a Garden
>Press Garden
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>>387341803
>I don't have an argument so I'm gonna act like a fucking retard, that'll show 'em!
Have a pity (You).
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>>387351364
Also i tried that first time, must have gotten the angle wrong.
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>>387352606
1st act or 2nd act?

2nd act has warps that act as checkpoints and is one of the best designed stages in the game.

1st act isn't bad, just kinda boring.
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>>387350001
Switch version?
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>>387352431
Because I just finished a good play session?
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>>387352681
Fuck off anon, stop trying to make sense of Taxman OBVIOUSLY cutting corners to meet deadlines.
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>>387352603
I got it for Switch.
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Sonic was never good.
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>>387352681
>Scrap Brain doesnt fit the theme
>Act 1 is a scrap yard
>Act 2 is Sonic inside of a gigantic fleshy brain
Nah

The point I was making is it's not consistent across acts. Why call it "Press Garden" if each act only fulfills one half of the name? They could've at least kept the Press theme going. At a PUSH you could maybe say that the wood chippers in act 2 are making the paper for the newspaper factory but even that's a real fucking leap of faith you have to make to justify the weird inconsistency between the acts.
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>>387352778
nah xbone
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>>387352734
both, but particularly act 2.
the warps make it feel unusually segmented and there's no way to complete the zone quickly.
also there are way too many of those electric sphere gimmicks.
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>>387352979
Just because you're in Press Garden doesn't mean you have to be at the press, you know?
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maybe we'll get a sonic advance 2 mania if this does good ;_;
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>150k points doesn't give you an extra life
dropped
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>>387353118
sonic advance 2 came out fifteen years ago, friend
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On my second playthrough and I'm liking the game a lot more now. Something just clicked when I started playing as Knuckles.

Really not a fan of the bonus stages, though. There should have been an option to play them seperately on the main menu.
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Sonic Mania has good bosse-
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>>387353356
Wait for him to go up. Don't attack him as soon as he's vulnerable or else he'll just catch on the ground.
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>>387353305
i still hunger for more, regardless of time
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>>387353356
That is a good boss
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>>387352603
I'm getting the PC version so go for that.
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>>387348976
Egghead likes to play fair.
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>unlock debug mode
>debug mode doesn't have 'S' monitors

Taxman c'mon
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>>387353330
Same feeling when playing as Knuckles, especially cos he got some nice twists (Mirage Saloon Act 1, new parts of Lava Reef, Hidden Palace) and just generally seemed more fun to explore the levels with.

The game really feels like it was designed for Knuckles and Tails to explore through in single-player and Sonic is there for the time attacks. Sonic's campaign itself wasn't nearly as fun to me.
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>>387353574
Press B to display monitors, then press A to toggle between monitor types.
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>>387352603
I bought the PS4 version. Go for whatever one you want. Hopefully the patch to fix the bugs is out by the time the Steam version releases.
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I haven't played it since my first run. Do you need to get all emeralds in the same playthrough or do they carry over?
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>>387353574
Yes it does
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>Half pipe is good
>Shitty controls, memorization-based """gameplay""", jump-scare tier bomb placement, having to turn off a feature of the game (Tails) in order to complete it without needing nanosecond-precise timing
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>>387353457
I can't not hit the fat fuck because he takes up half the screen. Then he sends me flying into spike or I end up getting squished by them. This is a shitty boss.
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>>387340065
Just don't hit reverse at high speed and you're fine.
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>>387353330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9MGMqAQzgs

Is this the most underrated song in the game?
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>>387353720
I agree with literally everything you said but have you seen how Taxman redesigned the Half-Pipe stages for his Sonic 2 remake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg6cIOsVojg

So much better than the pixelated slideshow from Sonic 2 Genesis.
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>>387351847
>wanting to watch Arin "sonic was never good" Hanson
>wanting to waste time on unfunny quips for 12 minutes while they struggle to play the game

no thank you
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>>387352603
Switch so you can get comfy in bed with it.
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>>387344939
The music is so fucking good. Probably my favorite.
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>>387352089
I just thought Chrome gadget got some love with Titanic monarch
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>Stardust Speedway bad future in generations
>Past and present in mania
>good future nowhere
IT"S NOT FAIR
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>>387352403
>>387352503
>>387352595

The spider boss relies on you understanding, He swings different depending on how much wire he is hanging from, You have to wait till he climbs a little till you fly into him from the propeller!
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>>387353736
Just stand still for a second
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>>387354126
Act 2 has bits of Good Future in its melody.
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>>387353574
yes it does scrub
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>>387353356
If you're going to post shitty bosses at least post the shittiest ones, like Metal Sonic.
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>>387353773
Yes
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>>387354230
The issue is that knuckles can't climb the pole faster than the elevator moves, meaning you can't let the spider climb or you'll miss your chance to attack.
It's a boss that was solely designed for sonic and arguably tails since tails can just fly a bit higher. Knuckles got the short straw for a lot of boss design.

At least knuckles gets his own unique boss. Tails is just easy mode sanic the whole game.
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>>387341556
>I'm 31 years old, I grew up playing the classic Sonic games. Sonic 3 was the first game I ever pre-ordered. The blue sphere collecting minigame is fucking garbage, and it's easily the worst part of that game.
I'm 31 years old, didn't play Sonic 3 & Knuckles until a few years ago, and the blue sphere minigame is just fine.

The Hyper Emerald levels get a bit rough, but they're doable.
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>>387347196
CLEANSE YOURSELF!
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I hope when the PC version comes out someone makes a mod so you can play the UFO Chase whenever you want as like a separate mode or something.
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It's time.
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>>387353634
>>387353696
Cheers guys, thought it was like the taxman ports where it just cycled them by pressing the same button.
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>>387341292
What a shitload of fuck indeed.
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>>387350609
GHZ1
1st (KTE): 076D 04CA
2nd (low path): 1EBA 04FI
3rd (the regular path one): 3797 0387
GHZ2
1st (top path): 0EAD 0126
2nd (low path): 2B7E 03CF
3rd (top path before boss): 3BEF 0002
CPZ1
1st (low path): 17A9 06E8
2nd (optimal path): 25F7 0565
3rd (lowest path in the rising water section): 3Af4 0A45
CPZ2
1st (left of huge room with green acid): o891 17D9
2nd (jump away from purple goo lift halfway through wall): 015B 0B16
3rd (ceiling 4-tile block fall down): 099F 04B5
SPZ1
1st (head left after the second rampup): 04D4 0545
2nd (top path after hornet teleporter): 209E 003E
3rd (bottom path when you super fast hidden in a wall): 304C 06EF

at this rate 3 will be the norm, assuming I haven't missed any
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>>387353483
It's really not.
Metal sonic and all the special robot bosses (final boss, not super sanic final, included) are the good bosses. The lava walker is also pretty good

Also, I feel like metal sonic should have been the final boss, or should have been the Act 1 boss. He has the feeling of a final boss (especially the length) but is just kinda thrown in the middle of the game.
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>>387353905
Wait wtf, that's the wrong damn video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGJ0s70xRk
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>>387353356
>posting any boss besides the Oil Ocean Act 2 boss
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>>387354653
The problem is anon, several of those are only accessible by Knuckles.

GHZ1 has 2 that are for Knuckles, and 1 that is for Sonic.

It's nice to know that there's probably going to be 3 for each though, and both with have at least one ring accessible per stage.
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>>387347807
just downloaded, it has no crack
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>>387354925
JESUS CHRIST THAT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER.

If only Tails would just fuck right off is all.
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>>387354653
>debug coordinates
Are you fucking kidding me
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>>387349940
I HAVE NO ASS

...oooh...
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>>387340065
why does he have a mullet?
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>>387353134
But it's 200k like it's always been
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>>387354469
the spider needs to climb for a second, You can hit the spider twice per pillar with knux!
Just work on timing!
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Oil Ocean Act 2 is not a bad as S&K Sandopolis Act 2 with the non consenting rape ghost before you knew to jump to the other sand slide.
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>>387354990
Nice try dude, >>387348101 already said its fake.
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>>387354250
>Stand still while he's shooting shit at you.
>Move to avoid his shit and get squished by scrolling spikes
>Hit him a few times and jump on the pillar
>Go flying from the pillar into spikes because he decides to arbitrarily become invincible while he goes back up to the top
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>>387353597
Are there any differences with a Tails playthrough? I was under the impression it was like S3&K where he gets jack shit and just does Sonic's route without Doomsday.
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>>387340065
fucking casual
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Hey there, did you stop being casual yet?
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>>387346297
How the fuck do you do well in the special stages
I'm stuck on the fucking fourth one; it just seems that even at mach 3 catching up to the ufo takes so long I'm liable to fuck up somewhere and lose ground
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>>387355202
i swear to god i replayed every game before mania and it's been 150k
i played the taxman ports though so maybe it was 200k on the genesis
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>tfw you only have 2 chaos emeralds and are on Stardust Highway

I hardly ever played the classic 2d Sonic games though. Having a lot of fun with this one.
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>>387353097
Not him, but it's strange how totally different Act 1 is for 2, gimmicks and all, and there's like no transference whatsoever. The below examples:

Act 1:
Glass bulbs and extending mechanisms
Crusher Gear
Conveyor Belts
Breakable boxes by fire
Spinning tops

Act 2:
Snow
Turning Sonic into ice for sliding and breaking obstacles.
Trees to jump on and use as platforms
Threshers, etc.

That's not to mention that the aesthetics are totally different, and they barely share any common enemies. They level layout in general is very different too, where Act 1 is claustrophobic, and almost linear, where Act 2 is much more open, with way more branching paths.

Apart from the shared common theme of green, they are practically nothing alike, and almost certainly derived from two separate zones originally.
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>>387355879
>4th one

There's two "Short Cuts". You can jump over one of the off road sections at the beginning, and about halfway through there's a route to the left of the main one. Saves a lot of time.

>5th one
Just gotta get good, which is admittedly pretty difficult cause the 5th one is fucking hard.
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>>387355965
>only have 1 emerald on oil ocean
i literally haven't found one since green hill zone act 1
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>>387355695
Yes. I came back to Metal after my first playthrough and now he's ez modo
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>>387355107
would you really rather they try to describe the location to you in words?
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>>387344939
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>>387356087
>>387355965
You're supposed to explore the levels to find them. Don't just go right, go left if you have a chance or jump into pits, push stuff around. They're supposed to be rewards for slowing down and platforming.
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>>387355879
Learn to jump and turn to take corners sharply. Itll help a lot when grabbing rings and catching the UFO.

I usually focus on speeding up and get to Mach 2 before topping up on rings.

But once you get to Mach 3 just start taking sharp turns and cutting corners and you'll catch up to the UFO in no time. Take the shortest routes too
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Am I the only one who wanted more of Press Garden like Act 1? I like bouncing around and seeing the paper fly through the background of the level looks really cool.
Act 2 is also great. But yeah, they should of been separated into different zones that way we could spend more time in each portion.
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>>387354925
That looks a lot better, yeah, but I still feel like it didn't solve my problem with some of the bomb placements, though that's without playing it and just having seen a video. I haven't played S2 in years, though.
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>>387355965
>Stardust Highway
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>>387356087
I did the same thing, and then wandered into two special stages in Oil Ocean.
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So what do you guys think the scrapped mosquito badnik was supposed to do?
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>>387356075
The 5th one is harder than 6 and 7. Which are actually easy as fuck.
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>>387354961
>GHZ1 has 2 that are for Knuckles
the second "low path" on is actually not that easily accessible for Knuckles
you need to go low after the place where Knuckles gets launched into the regular stage, and unless he backtracks he's not gonna get that low again
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>>387356519
Suck in chemicals then shoot them at you? Try to stab you like the ones in CD?
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>>387356519
>They actually used a Chaotix Badnik
Nice
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>>387355695
I'm trying. Blue Sphere is hard.
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>>387356862
>TV studio stage
>they didn't include the Chaotix badnik that's literally a video camera
missed opportunity
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>>387340065
>Awesome new zones
>Awesome new Special Stages
>imo the best bosses in the whole franchise
>They bring back my favorite Special Stages from the classics with Blue Sphere
>Every single old zone is bigger, better and more creative than it's original incarnation
>Except Hydrocity, my old favorite zone
I guess you can't win em all. It's a bit disappointing how much they fucked up Hydrocity though. At least the bosses were neat
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>>387356519
CD & Mania have some awful looking enemies compared to the originals. Even CD looks fan made.
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Do you still get blue sphere as bonus stage after getting all gold medals? Would be nice if it was changed to Glowing Sphere instead or at least an option.
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>>387350318
>nuggles
>villain
lol
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>>387341556
"It's fucking garbage because I say so." isn't a very strong """argument""" either, old man.

It really just sounds like you can't grasp the way the game is supposed to be played. You can't turn in analog 360 degree movement. It's grid based. And thank god for that, because if it was full 360 movement you'd be crying about how poorly it controls and how hard it is to collect spheres in a straight line. It's very simple: You hold the direction you want to turn in, and once the screen starts to shift you let go of the control pad. Springs always send you to the same spot. Jumping sends you the exact same distance every time and you're committed to the jump, so you plan ahead two seconds. Rinse and repeat as necessary. What's so hard about this? The only couple of really annoying BS stages are from the last ones in S&K, everything else a child could complete. Then again, I guess you couldn't as a child so maybe it's time to consider that it might just be you being bad at video games for babies.

>it's either dull or stressful

Nigga you can't say it's either/or, those two things are completely contradictory to one another. Which is it? Dull? Or stressful? Because the only one of those that could apply in reality is "stressful", due to how the stages speed up the longer you're in them. Again, this "stressful" bit only comes into play much later in the last few S&K stages where the path you're supposed to take isn't so clear. And even then, as long as you have a route mapped out, they're just as trivial as the other stages.

What gets me the most is how you're complaining about a completely optional bonus stage that nobody is forcing you to play. But hey, if you love Sonic 2's special stages so much then good news! There's at least a dozen or so Sonic games that rehash that very special stage in some form that you can go and play RIGHT NOW. You'll just have to pick around a potentially bad Sonic game to get to them though, so have fun with that I guess.
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>>387341487
It's pretty easy but it just makes me nauseous. And so I hate it.
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How do you drop dash?
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>>387356519
sucks rings instead of knocking them all out at once

And why do the CD and that new crab badnik in Press Garden look so out of place?
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>>387357103
Yeah, Hydrocity Zone is barely any different at all. It's a real bummer for people like me who didn't really like it to begin with.
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>>387357389
press and hold a in the air after jumping, keep holding it when you touch the ground
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you have 5 seconds to explain to me why you aren't using the crt sharp setting, the objectively best looking video mode
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>>387357103
Are you implying the sonic statue's aren't there anymore or something? Because they still are
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>>387343003
I got the last three chaos emeralds going max speed because I figured you needed to just to catch the emerald. I didn't even know the UFO sped up as you did. I guess you guys just suck.
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>>387357481
No, it was just the only Hydrocity picture I had in my picture folder.
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Secret Level Select on PS4: X + Square + Options on the No Save Icon
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>>387357807
It works on the title screen too.
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>>387356621
>The ring was there the whole time
I looked for it almost all day yesterday, I'm going to lobotomize myself
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>>387343171
/thread
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>>387343717
They really aren't that hard.
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>>387357870
not for me man, I've tried all day until some youtube comment mentioned the no save icon and now I finally got it working
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>>387357462
Thanks anon,
>>
There are 4 (four) easy to access Secret rings in Zone 1.

Are there 2 per stage? That's sounds about right... Right?
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>>387358104
You have to hold the buttons before Sonic appears on the title screen, and then hit start when it prompts you to press a button. At least on the Switch.
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>>387344513
>a shitty freedom planet level.
Better than most Sonic levels, then?
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>>387356546
I don't know if that was on purpose or not, but that's been a trend since Sonic Advance. The 5th or the 6th are always harder than the 7th.
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>>387344425
Timing it right also allowed Sonic to safely kill those little fuckers with the spikes orbiting them.
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>>387344474
Can't you grab the platform's side underneath and just wait for the snake thing to go away? You could do that in Sonic 2 pretty easily.
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>>387356621
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh.... so I'm going to need to you to post a webm for all the secret rings in Green Hill...
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>>387358212
Sonic 3 and Knuckles had 77 giant rings in total so probably not just 2 per stage.
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>>387354653
>There are 4 (four) easy to access Secret rings in Zone 1.
>
>Are there 2 per stage? That's sounds about right... Right?
3 per act at this rate
see >>387358212
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>>387358212
Some stages only contain 1
Some contain 2 but 1 is restricted to knuckles / tails.
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I just beat Sonic CD, what now?
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>>387357626
It doesn't speed up as you do, it speeds up depending on how long you've been in the stage.

>>387343003
So it's not a trap to get the blue spheres since going up to Mach 2 or 3 early will REALLY help to catch him quick, but you're right that you should never go out of your way for the spheres.
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>>387358498
Chaotix.
The Master System Games then the Game Gear then Advance 1/2/4 then Rush 1/2
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So they're going to finally give us playable metal in free dlc, right?
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>>387358531
Don't listen to that guy.

Speed up a level first. Then get like 80 rings then focus entirely on spheres and cutting corners and you'll catch the guy in no time
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>>387358662
But you can already play metal in Sonic 4 :^)
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>>387358662
Maybe with the lock-on feature with Forces
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>>387355258
Sandopolis gave me nightmares for years.
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So is this gonna be the next /v/ sacred cow where every criticism is immediately swarmed with NUH UH ITS PERFECT
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>>387340801
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How bad would it be to start with Knuckles on the first run? Should I follow some order like S3&K?
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>>387355112
MY DOO DOO IS STREAKING BLOOD
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>>387358998
what was the last one?
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>>387358752
>>387358531
You're both full of shit.

You can catch every one of them with no Mach up as long as you start cutting corners immediately. The only one you MIGHT want to level up is the 5th one, just because some jumps are a little difficult if you're on Mach 1.
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>>387359034
RUFF RUFF

RUFF RUFF

I'M A DOG
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>>387358998
It's not a Nintendo game so nope
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>>387359052
Undertale
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>>387340065
>tfw Oil Ocean

Who the fuck thought this was okay?
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>>387351441
but that's bland and lame as fuck

shit taste confirmed
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>2nd stage boss

I should just stop now, there's no way the game will top this.
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>decide to play sonic 1 on my phone
>adds are fucking obnoxious
>lets just buy the ad free version with my free google bucks
>now the game just crashes if I try to play
Fuck mobile gaming.
>>
>>387359123
Half of this board shits on Undertale, only furries, fags, and casuals play it up as a perfect game. The fuck are you smoking?
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>>387350318
>Then your first time playing as Knuckles you run straight into the red spheres and WHAT THE FUCK LORD OF SHIII-
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>>387359123
Oh you mean that game literally everyone on /v/ shits on constantly?
>>
>Found 9 special stage rings
>Finished with 3 Emeralds
Fuck stage 4
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>>387351193
>level is so boring they had to set it on fire just to keep your attention
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>>387340065
they were the best special stages out of the original 3, but bringing them back as bonus stages was a mistake. they take too long and they kill the game's pace. i would've rather them put in their own casino-type minigames like 3 did, very short and sweet, and with actual powerups to help during the level.
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>>387359257
Equal and opposite reaction to the extremely rabid defense of undertale early on
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>yfw the oil lights on fire when you have flame buff
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>>387359345
>3 emeralds by chemical plant
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>>387359147
It is one of the more memorable Sonic 2 level, if for no other reason than so many people hate it

I often literally forget Hilltop and Mystic even exist, but I still remember something as crazy as a literal ocean of oil
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why is he so perfect
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>>387359345
Anon, I'm at Oil Ocean with only 2 Chaos Emeralds, and I've had about 6 or 7 chances.
>>
i don't have the game yet
can i turn down the sfx or better yet sonic AND tails jumping at 300% volume
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>>387359123
Amazingly Sonic Mania and Undertale came out on the same day for PS4.
>>
Oshit time for ACTUAL CRITISCISM O NOOOOOOOOOOO
>too many industrial-themed zones (at least 6. like, what)
>hydrocity still sucks
>not enough new stages to feel like a new game, though the act remixes are probably the best they've ever been
>weird difficulty spikes (flying battery zone is extremely fucking tough with glitchy gimmicks, sandwiched between two easy ass zones)
That's about it.
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>>387359675
there are separate volume settings for music and sfx
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>>387359628
He was machined from parts and is not subject to the errors inherent in organic, grown "machines".
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>>387359715

>too many industrial-themed zones (at least 6. like, what)

that was the case with generations

I blame Iizuka
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>>387344671
ME
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>>387359715
>hydrocity still sucks
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>>387359508
>go down an oil slide
>flames start spilling everywhere uncontrollably
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>>387359715
>hydrocity sucks
commit sudoku
>>
>TFW I thought there was only one secret ring per act.
>TFW I found more than that with knuckles.

Damn. They are just that well hidden.
>>
Is there a way to get Super Sanic early?
>>
>>387354507
This
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>>387359919
Have you not played S3K?
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>>387360030

I thought they were using the sonic advance system.
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>>387359715
>(flying battery zone is extremely fucking tough with glitchy gimmicks, sandwiched between two easy ass zones)
I'm seeing a lot of people say that FB was hard, was it?
It felt pretty fine for me.
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>>387360078
Why would you think that?
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>>387360121
Anyone who thinks this game is hard at all is an idiot. I only died like six times my first run.
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>>387360175

Because I didn't find a single damn ring until Chemical plant Act 2 my first play through.
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>7 emeralds by Chemical Planet 2

Kinda makes the rest of the game boring. Why can't your turn Super off?
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Do the medals for Blue Spheres count if you play it at all in Mania Mode?
Like if you booted up No Save mode, did a single round of BS, and exited without clearing the act, would you still get the medal?
>>
How do I activate peel-out and insta-shield? I have them unlocked bit for some reason I can't use them
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>>387360281
Just don't use it.
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>>387359198
All the boss battles were genius. The team really utilized ALL the mechanics of the game to make each one unique as fuck.
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>>387360281
Just don't use it idiot.
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>>387352848
Doesn't that work though? That means the zones in question ultimately benefited by giving us even more variety than they would have otherwise.
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>>387353356
that was one was fine

only boss that was shit was oil ocean's act 2 cunt. mamysk anus bleed just thinking about that octofucker.
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>>387359198

Oh good heavens anon, you haven't gotten to the HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE
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>>387360549
>>387360597
>Just don't glide
>Just don't fly
>Just drop dash or double jump or fire dash or insta shield
>Just don't play the game

Good advice.
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>>387361038
>waah why does using an optional ability make the game easier
>waah why should I not use that optional ability that makes the game easier if I use but then complain about it making the game easier
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>>387360802
>standing on the platform he pulls down is an instant death
>losing rings in the oil likely results in you losing them all
I lost so many lives.
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Man I just realized, pretty much every act 2 boss has a unique theme.
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>>387361038
>do another save and this time don't get the chaos emeralds
>what is common sense
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My game crashes anytime i almost get the medal in blue spheres. Someone help
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Somebody call Taxman and tell him this fucking game needs a Boss Rush mode.
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