Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness

>>387325098
Why would anyone request a game that flopped on consoles? Why would anyone pay Neo-Valve's $49.99 on a game that sells for $19.99 on PS4?

This probably legitimately my most regretted vidya purchase in the last 5 years. It hurts even more because I actively shilled it like fuck prior to release saying it would save JRPGs and probably convinced several people to waste their money and buy it. I'm sorry.

>>387325098
Why would you want it? It sucks ass. and i mean major ass.
Best part is the battle system and i only liked that because you could use the battle themes from Valkyrie profile 1 and 2.

>>387325098
The game is awful, unfinished and flopped terribly, PC port won't ever happen. It doesn't have cult following either due to being pure unfinished trash.
It's not gonna happen anon, move on since it's awful.
There hasn't been a good SO since SO2.

>>387325098
anon, even if starved for games, you shouldn't try this one, its REALLY bad.

Why is Till The End of Time the best one?

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>>387325098
move over. superior star ocean game coming through

this one better get a port because trying to emulate it has too many slowdown issues to really be enjoyable

>>387325453
Bait.

2 > 1 > Power Gap > 3 > Power Gap > 4 > Power Gap > Power Gap > Power Gap > Infinity Itself > 5

>>387325230
All is forgiven, my son.

This was a terrible Star Ocean game but I got it for like 15 bucks and put probably 40 hours into beating it so it was worth it for me. Item synthesis was as fun as always to make ridiculous OP shit at the end of the game.

SO5 drinking game
1 shot for every time the loli gets kidnapped or put in some sort of danger.
You will be dead.

>>387325496
>this one better get a port because trying to emulate it has too many slowdown issues to really be enjoyable
Get a better PC retard.
Also PS4 version isn't even a port, it's literally emulation.
All the "PS2 Classics" line games are just emulation.
1x Resolution emulation on PS3, 2x Resolution on PS4.

>>387325535
I enjoyed 5 more than 4. It feels like a dumbed down 3, but I'll take that over whatever the fuck 4 did.

Worth $20?

>>387325607
Which version of 4 did you play? Cause if you played the awful X360 one, I can understand that.
PS3 version fixed quite a bit of problems, but the art style and story obviously can't be salvaged.

>>387325535
I feel like SO2 is really the only good game in the series.

>>387325640
Not even worth 1$ anon, you should only play it if it's the last "big" videogame in the world you haven't played yet.

>>387325098
I'm curious on how much it cost to make this game.
Maybe even I can do better.

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>>387325640
Nah. There are probably JRPGs you could up from 15+ years ago you haven't played. It's just really bad to mediocre. I mean, unless you really want that titillation.

>>387325098
Didnt the game bomb already both financially and reception wise
I wonder why they've yet to port it to PC if only for quick and easy cash

>>387325673
I played the PS3 version. Strangely enough, I hated the combat the most. Combat felt sluggish, as if the game wouldn't respond to my inputs very well. Hits had no feedback, it always felt like you were fighting a pile of dough. Attacks didn't seem to chain into each other nearly as well. I won't say I loved 5, those huge battles are a clusterfuck and it was lame that they mostly straight ripped movesets from SO3 characters, but at least I felt like I was in control and the attacks were snappy.

>>387325230
>>387325745

What's so bad about it?

>>387325697
SO2 can't exist without SO1, being a direct sequel and whatnot.
It's the other games that have no right to exist since they were never planned.
The games literally were conceived as just SO1 and SO2 when originally created and anything beyond that is basically Square Enix making cheap cash-ins.

>>387325985
It's literally pre-alpha product in every sense of the word.

I don't know why 4 gets so much shit honestly. It's the only game in the series that really blends the sci-fi elements and has you actively flying around and jumping between planets instead of just marooning you on generic fantasy planet for 95% of the game like the others. The battle system isn't bad either, though like the others it suffers from getting too spammy later on.

EDGE MAVERICK and the loli were kind of annoying I guess, but the rest of the cast was ok. Plot wasn't that bad from what I remember either.

>>387326172

So is it glitchy, abrupt ending, etc.? How so, anon? Just curious.

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>>387326241
A lot of people skipped the improved PS3 version. But honestly, it's just jacked up anime shit with decent combat.

>>387326332
Yes, all that, story is unfinished, bugs everywhere, performance is ABYSMAL (almost as bad as that leaked pre-alpha of original Battlefront 3 for X360), it's basically terrible. It's unsalvageable.

>>387325496
>this one better get a port because trying to emulate it has too many slowdown issues to really be enjoyable
Actually started playing it recently, and I get this fucking massive slowdown after exiting most battles that lasts for a few seconds before going right back to normal.
It's fucking baffling and there's no real visuals onscreen to blame it on, so I have no idea what to do to fix it.

>>387325673
the ps3 gave you animu portraits and very small extra content don't kid yourself.

>>387325985
Hilariously short for a JRPG
Literally ONE single planet the entire game
Combat is simplified trash
No limit on party members meaning the entire party can fight at once thus making all battles literal baby mode
Awful AI
To name a few
It's even worse because the developers themselves said it would be their apology and a return to the greatness of the SO series

>>387325254
>>387325272

Yeah, I know the game is bad. Btw, I never played the game.

Dunno why, I'm just curious to play the game.

I remember some people said this game will be "Tales of" killer or something (because Tales of Zestiria is so bad), but the game apparently turned out to be worse than Zestiria.

Even if they actually ported the game, I probably wait for holidays sales/discount/whatever or pirate it

>>387326561
>Better lighting
>Better textures
>Dual Audio
>Portraits
>One disc
>Drastically reduced loading times
>Extra content
>Reimi changes
>MANUAL FUCKING TARGETTING
>Redone crafting
>New items/treasure chests
>Skills rebalanced and tweaked
>Bugs fixed

Anon pls don't shitpost.

>>387325230
>save the JRPG genre
>When Xenoblade Chronicles already did it back in 2010/2012

>>387325496
Remember that the most POWERFUL CONSOLE PS4 can't allow gamers to play PS2 discs. Remember that Star Ocean PS2 on PS4 costs 21 dollars for the privilege to have backwards compatibility.

PS4 is amazing, I love PS4 and it's policies! Remaster and no backwards compatibility! Sony YES!

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/star-ocean-till-the-end-of-time/cid=UP0082-CUSA04778_00-SLUS204880000001

SONY
YES
20 DOLLARS

why the fuck would you want it

>>387326706
>I'm just curious to play the game.
Not going to stop you, but you will end up like me. Wondering how this game got past QC.
>I remember some people said this game will be "Tales of" killer
They are fools of the highest order. As bad as Zestitra was, it was not SO5.

>>387325985

It feels unfinished. I'm surprised they thought it was worthy enough to release and consider a full game.

-Game world is incredibly small with very bland and dull areas. They make the map seem bigger than it actually is by having you constantly running back and forth across empty fields since there's no fast travel until near the end.
-Instead of real cutscenes the characters will just stand around and info dump for like 5 minutes. They try to make it seems more "dynamic" by letting you move around during these moments, but it equates to nothing.
-They apparently didn't have the budget to animate a lot of stuff. There's supposed to be this huge intergalactic war with space ships and laser beams happening in the background, but you never actually see it even when you're on one of the ships getting attacked.
-Tons of backtracking, which again is a problem because of the large, empty fields.
-MMO tier quests where it's just kill X enemy or find X amount of items with terrible rewards
-Crafting is super dumbed down
-Character feel unfinished combat wise. There's very few special attacks and spells even though most of them are outright recycled from previous games. This in turn makes it so there's not much variety in combat.
-Having all your party member fighting at once was a neat idea in theory, but executed terribly. For example, they compensated for this by giving bosses tons of super armor so they aren't constantly stunlocked. Which would be reasonable if the AI was at least competent, but they'll constantly run to their deaths over and over since bosses are like brick walls you just whittle down with no strategy
-Entire game is super short. You can clock it in at a little over 20 hours without rushing

>>387326241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zmnUi5NzTc

>>387326241
>and has you actively flying around and jumping between planets instead of just marooning you on generic fantasy planet for 95% of the game
I've only ever played SO3, but holy fuck nothing pissed me off about that game more.

>>387327017
Matt Mercer's Edge voice...

Man, Mercer is still a new guy back then.

>>387327487
It's one of series' problems aka they're basically just fantasy games and you get to see some SF every now and then.

>>387326332
Don't listen to this fucking retard shitposter >>387326423
There are no bugs, there are no glitches, games runs at solid 60 fps.
People throw shit at this game for no fucking reason.
It's a LOW BUDGET game you retards. Tri-Ace did a good job considering what they had.
Yes, the story is bad, rushed and badly paced. WHAT A FUCKING surprise, considering it's from Tri-Ace.
The gameplay itself is fun, you can control 6 characters, you can customize them with roles (best thing about this game). It feels like a Star Ocean, just a small one. It's definitely worth 20$.

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>Kobayashi: “Since the game is full of action
What? It's dull as fuck and not even good looking.

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SO3 had best girl.

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>>387328225
So it's basically for genre enthusiasts willing to overlook lack of production and polish? That would explain why public at large snubbed it.

>>387325098

Fuck off. We don't want that trash.

>>387325927
She was the best part of the game

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>>387327016
this.

I deeply regret buying the $110 special edition of this.
I played for about 4 hours and was just like "no I can't"
I recall getting to a mountain-y area and the music was a straight rip of a track from star ocean 3. and that was just the laziest shit. I just couldn't take it.

>>387326868
It's even more insulting when you realize it isn't a remaster but emulation.

>>387325098
>Playing a Star Ocean game besides 1/2

K E K

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OG waifu

>>387328394
Holy shit Albel's design is so fucking cringe inducing.
What were they thinking

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>>387328720
Never reply to me ever again.

>>387328787
>Do you hate me?
It's almost like they knew it was basically fujobait

>>387328225
I agree it's not as bad as people say, but it did feel dumbed down compared to 3. It had a couple idea I liked, such as roles and a manual block, but battles don't work right with so many characters and the ripped off SO3 movesets made me wish I was playing 3 instead.

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>>387328702
Thanks for reminding me how much I detested the PSP art change.

>>387328787

this is some weird cloud/zidane/kuja hybrid

>>387328495
Hey, anon. Let me have your star ocean copy

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We never get the ports of star ocean 1 and 2 on ps4, shame.

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>>387328830
They're good friends who care for one another in a non-sexual way.

Does SO3 emulate well on PCSX2?

>>387328907
PSP art direction change was something I enjoyed but the original art was also really good.

The Second Evolution undub is the definitive version of bedwetter waifu game IMO

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>>387328932
sorry, i must forever keep it as a reminder of the foolishness of blindly trusting i franchise i loved in the past.

A reminder that Star Ocean universe is a simulation.

It's NOT really bad contrary to what other people say on this thread. It's really just an average JRPG, short one at that though.

Seriously, I enjoyed SO5 more than the disastrous pile of shit that is Final Fantasy XV

>>387329174
But anon, I like you.

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>devs say in interviews that they will try to surpass 4
>ends up being worse
>SO4 is still the only game faithfull to it's title

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albel is cute

>>387328479

Her personality didn't match her outfit. Ann had fucking amazing hips and thighs HNNNGH.

>>387325098
These dumb cucks should just port Star Ocean 2 to PC instead and fix all the game breaking bugs while they're at it

>>387329391
I forgot about her but you are right

>>387329394
You can emulate it without any trouble at all and devs know that so why would they port the thing?

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>hey guys, let's make a game where you can play alongside the main characters of the previous game and make it a mobile gacha game. It'll be awesome right? Right???

>>387329529
If it'll make money, that's the only thing that matters.

>>387329529
almost all famous franchises that gets a mobile gacha game are like that.

>>387329529
W-where's Maria?

>>387329481
Star Ocean 2 is unstable and most people don't bother emulating
Also if it sells well maybe they make good Star Ocean games again rather than 3/4/5

>>387328083
That's not really a problem, that's the setup for the series. The problem is people always going with the wrong expectations because of the title.

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>>387329649
Not main character enough.

>>387329529
>for iOS and Android
>Rena looks like a boy
>Claude looks like a girl

>>387329356
>crop top
>skirt with thigh high slit
>no underwear

It's a good thing his dad died so he wouldn't have to watch his pride and joy grow up to be a deranged tsundere crossdressing faggot.

>>387329529
The gameplay of it isn't that bad, honestly. It's not that much worse than console SO, which is more telling of how basic SO is.

>>387329175
Our reality might be one too.

>>387329668
3 was not technically a bad game, it's just that the plot twist at the end was the most horrid asspull they could've ever done.

it's an insult to my gaming sensibilities, personally.

>>387326391
Ps3 version had Jap voices i guess but you could find a Undubed version on 360.
Overall Ps3 version had a worse frame rate.

>>387329816
The twist makes sense as it explains how time travel worked in SO1.

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I just want more best girl

How long will I be denied

Since the devs can't seem to figure out how to do decent 3D models or use a budget wisely, they should be forced to use RPG Maker to make the next Star Ocean game.

Also, what the fuck happened to this?:--->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cuXgRVMvZ0
Is this where the budget went to? Is that why 5 turned out to be low budget shit?

What's with people saying SO5 is broken? It isn't, technical side is flawless for a Tri-Ace game. Now, the story is shit and the game is pretty underwhelming in general.

>>387330070
Nothing, it's a tech demo.

>>387330249
What's the point of wasting time and money on a tech demo when you're just going to shit out something bland and generic?

>>387330332
Show off and then disappoint.

>>387330142

The rock paper scissors combat in it is extremely flawed. You hardly ever do things on reaction for it and spam literally 1 or 2 moves the enter game for every member.

>>387325098

not only are the devs clueless retards about pc gaming but they made an absolute trainwreck of a game

trust me you are better off without it, play nep nep, it's more playable

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>>387325535

This is the most correct opinion

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>>387328702

>>387330851
Would still hug

>>387325098
Japan has always been fucking retarded when it came to PC controls. I don't understand the issue.

>>387330851
Looks much better on the right.

>>387325496
>trying to emulate it has too many slowdown issues to really be enjoyable
are you literally living in the dark ages?

I'm so hardcore I got 100% battle trophies in SO3

>>387331419
maybe if you are a pedo

>>387326241
>I don't know why 4 gets so much shit honestly.

rightfully to an extent. it's shameless animu virgin pandering. but the battlesystem is good and over all it's an enjoyable game. even if it's on the PS3 I recommend it over 5.

>>387331714
Art's cleaner, there's more design on it that isn't tacky and wrinkeld-looking, the cape doesn't look like a parachute, hair is more realistically reacting to, you know, gravity, boot tongues aren't hanging out, is wearing socks that fit instead of ones 8 sizes too big and cutting off her circulation with bungee cord to keep them from falling.

>>387331820
Keep telling yourself that, pedo

>>387330851
Both look fine. The real issue is turning everything into that generic anime art style.

Fuck anime.

>>387332689
spoilers: that's what anime looked like back then

>>387329704
Feels pretty silly to have everyone talking about sci-fi stuff on a medieval fantasy planet when they could be actually showing some of it.
Exposing bits of science fiction to high fantasy cultures and then turning around and putting a high fantasy character in a science fiction environment are neat concepts, but make it 50/50 instead of 90/10.

>>387333373
Everybody knows you're a big boy

>>387325496
nel is my waifu

>>387331419
>Big bug eyes.
>Demure posture.
>No nose.
>Bland facial expression.
>No tits.

Right side is horrible

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>>387333373
Yeah I know.But the difference is it didn't look flat as fuck back in the day.

>>387328225
Radiata Stories was a tri-ace game with a much smaller budget (something like $3 million tops) and it has a great story, great characters, beautiful art style, and relatively unique gameplay.

>>387334068
The only downside is when you have to choose Humans or Fairies.

>>387334153
>An actual meaningful choice in an RPG
>Completely changes the ENTIRE REMAINDER of the story
>Both sides have a 100% fleshed out plotline and set of sidequests
Anon how is that a fucking downside?

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>>387333906
>big bug eyes
they're pretty much the same on both sides.
>demure posture
versus hunched over at a 90 degree angle?
>no nose
you got me.
>no tits
are you implying the one on the left has more tits than the right? Everything she's wearing is so baggy and wrinkled I can't actually tell.

>>387328441
legit the worst character design i've seen in years

she's like a green vincent valentine, wtf were they thinking. several characters in this game reek of overdesign

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>>387334068
best game

>>387334249
>lose all your friends on the other faction
>neither end has a great ending
it did kind of suck, both of you are right

>>387334287
>they're pretty much the same on both sides.

Does ( ) look the same as ( ) to you as well?

>>387325598
>are just emulation
It's a bit more complicated than that but you are mostly right so I guess I'll let it go.

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>>387325272
>there will never be another RPG that offers so much satisfaction in exploiting a crafting system as SO2

just kill me.

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>>387334452
The design is different but the size of the eyes, relative to the other, is almost identical. The right side just has shitty computer-drawn eyes with no sense of shadow.

>>387334068
I kicked everything. EVERYTHING.

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>>387326868
but hey,

>>387326241
I'm currently playing it for the first time, I missed these kind of games and Reimu does things to my dick no other girl has so I'm having a good time

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>>387335003

>>387329529
It's bretty gud for a mobile game honestly, the game hands out currency to roll the gacha pretty damn liberally and it's pretty fun to play. Only downside is they power creeped the fuck out of Maria.

>>387328441
The public at large snubbed it because it's a piece of shit. Story and characters are terrible, combat becomes a clusterfuck where you just need to spam invincible moves and they even reuse tracks and monsters from the PS2 game. It's only redeeming factor is Fiore's ass.

>>387328495
>I recall getting to a mountain-y area and the music was a straight rip of a track from star ocean 3. and that was just the laziest shit.
Funnily enough that's the exact point where I stopped giving a fuck about the game as well. Hearing them reuse a completely random track like that showed just how half assed the game was.

long ago, probably 7 or 8 years i picked up a copy of some star ocean game for my PS2, and the few minutes i was able to play were great, but my shitty PS2 had some problem with it that it would crash constantly on certain games, star ocean and god of war 2 being the worst ofenders. Ive wanted to try to play the game ever since but never got around to it. which titles are worth playing and on what platform? i can emulate anything other than xbox, and ill pay up to $15 on steam.

the PSP versions of 1 and 2 are objectively the definitives. They have more content, plain and simple. Not trash "content" like the DS chrono trigger either. It's like LSSS on saturn versus psp.

3 is on PS2 and now PS4 through the ps2 on ps4 thing. 4 is on 360 and ps3. 5 is on ps4.

>>387337878
3 is best emulated.

>>387338097
I disagree because it's far from perfect without tons of finnicky fucking around with plugins, I'd much rather just pop in the disc on my actual PS2.

>>387338216
You just don't know what you're doing.

>>387338279
No, but having to spend more than 5 minutes to set it up immediately outweighs to benefit of it looking slightly better in character models and nigh unreadable when you look at text.

>>387337878
The PSP remake of 1 is criminally underrated.

>>387338367
Then play in software more and get better FPS and FAR better loading times you retard. You just don't know what you're doing.

>>387338510
I just remembered one problem with it though. It was a bit easy. You can download a harder difficulty save online. IIRC they forgot to include the difficulty options in the original game so the only way to use it was with a hacked save.

>>387338526
and deal with a ton of graphics garbage? Why?

>>387325098
No one wants that piece of shit on PC. Easily one of the worst RPGs ever made.

>>387338791
Because it doesn't exist? Why are you just shitposting now?

>>387338918
And you're shitposting. You play on emulator, I'll play on PS2, why shitpost and lie and say it runs perfectly?

>>387338939
Salty PS2 pleb.

>>387334068
Yeah, it was also a PS2 game. Even keeping in mind they clearly bit more than they could chew with SO5 things were different two generations ago.

SO5 is a good game. It's small on content but uses what it has well, the story clearly builds up to a conclusion without leaving it unfinished and anyone bitching about the combat didn't play it on any kind of harder difficulty and clearly doesn't understand how to properly make use of it or how it's supposed to affect you as well as enemies. That they force you to unlock the harder difficulties is a flaw in itself but a more minor one.

>>387338779
They didn't forget, they're in there, just never finished because some mobs don't have changed values and other things weren't changed at all, like mob encounters with multiple numbers all at significantly raised health values, making it super hard to kill them early on. You can access it through a save file with the modes hacked in, meaning the data for them are in the base game, just unavailable, even through debugs, which is odd cause they're right there in SO2, you can straight up just access them through the debug menu and trip their values.

Infuriating shit.

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>there actually exist SOfags
I get you guys are nostalgic for 2, the only remotely decent game, but don't pretend SO is a good series.

>>387339574
I don't get the SO2 boner. Magic pausing the action completely kills it for me.

>>387339574
But SO3 is the best.

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>>387339574
SO3 and SO1 are my favorites