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What does /v/ think of the new Hearthstone expansion so far?

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What does /v/ think of the new Hearthstone expansion so far?
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>>387317754
druid is dooming all the other classes
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>>387317754
B I G E Z D R U I D
that and quest mage
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>>387317754
I dont play Hearthcrap so i dont
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I constantly get rekt as DK pala but I still like the new mechanic.
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>>387317878
>>387317936
I haven't played since Combo Druid nerf.

Should I get back into it for the Druid pwnage?
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>>387317936
Why is druid good now ? Haven't seen any yet
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>>387318361
Shits out a million taunts for very little mana.
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With the right tech cards, control priest takes a fat shit on druid. Would post list but at work, I can get it later if the thread is still alive.

>>387318142
Then this thread isn't for (You), please leave.
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>>387317878
>mfw I haven't lost in 2 days against any Jade/taunt Druids with my edh Priest
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>>387317754
On a semi related note I tried Gwent, it seems too complicated to be fun for casual play.
Not colorful, full of eye-candy either. (It's nice to play with a controller though).

It seems like a game where you need to know a good portion of the card pool by heart to win tricky combo games, and there are ONLY tricky combo games, no straightforward curving or anything.
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>>387317754

I watch streams once in a while and i swear to god, half the games are against jade druid, even after they specifically added a "fuck jade druid" card

As for the other card, i like that one that let you make custom unit (DK rexxar) and the one that summon random legendaries

I never seen rogue being played
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nice meta
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Is Quest Priest still viable? I had a lot of fun with it last set.
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>>387319190
It was never viable
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Weapon rogue with arcane giants is fun.
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>>387317754
So far so good. I reckon Druid will slowly peter down as the expansion goes on and people refine their decks more. (Priest shits on it with velen combo)

Mammoth is shaping up to the best year of metas so far.
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>>387318912
What the fuck is an edh priest?
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>>387318361
Ultimate Infestation also answers the age old druid question of "So you ramped up and now are 10 Mana turn five but out of cards"
In one swoop it kills off most relevant minions your opponent can play by then, heals you a bit, generates a decent board presence and refills your hand
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Playing my Reno Value Mage in wild is the only fun I have with this game anymore
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>>387318912
must be fun down there at rank 15
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>>387321345
Rank 5
>>387320898
pic
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i just want to get out of rank 11-10. If boosting was cheap and not 4 million dollars i'd do it in a heartbeat.
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>tfw transform cards are more or less extinct this meta
Slapping this sonofabitch with a Steed or Bonmare gives me a raging erection.
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>>387322596
Just netdeck bro
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>>387322846
This. Just netdecked an aggro druid deck.
>mfw turn 1 Vicious Fledgling is an almost guaranteed win
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>>387320898
edh stands for elder dragon highlander
It's a mtg term, it basically means a deck with only one of each copy.
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>add a card that specifically counters jade druid
>jade druid dominating the meta
you cant make this shit up
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>>387322331
Why not play dk priest for ultimate combo fuckery with raza?
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>>387322787
I do love playing shaman for this reason.
This card has never been better than right now.
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>>387323527
That's because you can't make cards that dominate just a single deck and expect people to use them.
You can make cards that dominate specific strategies, such as old BGH or Reno, but not specific decks.
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>>387323540
I've found the greedy decks with a few tech cards like Ooze's and Geist to be the most valuble so far. Going full combo could mean less succes against Jade druid as I might never draw my DK in time.
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It's shit
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it seems really cool, still waiting on my favorite streamers to put out some youtube videos though
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>Alright guys, what if we took a class that's already really powerful, and added a card that completely mitigates their biggest weakness?

How I have to imagine the discussion started when Team 5 came up with Spreading Plague.
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>>387323760
But anon, Kripp puts out 2 vids each and everyday.
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>>387323585
Is this an actual card?
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>>387322596
>can't play better
>wants to pay someone so he can be placed among better players
>if he does, he will be playing against players far superior than him
>will end up losing more
>finally deranks to where he is now
Do people who want to be boosted really have mental issues?
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>>387323913
Yes and hilariously enough it didn't see play till months after it's initial release.
The meta back then was THAT aggressive.
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>>387323889
Kripp is shit at constructed and im tired of his face
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>>387317754
the same as i do about any hearthstone expansion, uninteresting and samey

i prefer to be a good goy and play The Best Card Game ever made where even budgety decks cost hundreds of dollars and where you're branded a poorfag if you think tarmogoyf should be cheaper than 100 dollars
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>>387323913
Rule of thumb: It it has a random effect, its a legit Hearthstone card.
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>>387317754
I've been enjoying it but as a Paladin player I feel completely helpless against Priest right now. They have ez 6 mana steal your Tirion again, and the ability to just casually deal 8-14 damage a turn in their Raza decks.
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>>387324043
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>>387323953
How the fuck can you even play a game this random without getting a heart attack from all teh anger. That card literally costs 2 and fucks any kind of strategy you planned. Glad I stopped playing after a month, playing dice is less random than this shit.
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>>387323974
>Kripp is shit in the most boring and repetitive game mode
Yeah what a shame.
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>>387324109
Nah, devolve is pretty much just 2 mana silence all enemies.
It's not even that good except against specific cards, I only run one in my decks.
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>>387324109
It fucks buff decks more than anything but it's just 1 out of 9 classes so the odds of facing it are slim, you just have to take it in the chin when you do.
Pretty much the same with all ccg's
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>>387324092
Fake, its not 1 mana.
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>>387324092
Not enough randomness
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>>387324121
>i like random: the game mode
I want to see what the cards can do in the hands of a player that knows how to build a deck, like firebat or strifecro
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>>387324109
Yeah, you're right. Devolve is probably number one on my list of cards that should never be allowed to exist. It's one thing if you want to pull that evolve shenanigan on your own units, but don't fucking touch mine. Let me play a game free of ridic rng for once. That card is from the Mean streets of gadgetzan expansion, which also introduced a bunch of other really stupid cards with high variance like Barnes. And let's not forget Patches. I hate that expansion so much. Ruined the game for me. Together with the One night in Karazhan adventure. I might play against when those 2 rotate, but until then, at most I'm just doing my quests and staying as far away as possible from the game.
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What does /v/ think of the new Duelyst expansion so far?
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>>387324253
>since I don't know about card rarity and chances of them appearing, I cannot make stimates, so there is no skill involved
>I need to play a game mode where I know what 3 decks I'm gonna face
>firebat or strifecro
t. cuck
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>>387324253
Arena is controlled randomness. It's not all about luck, else players like Kripp wouldn't consistenly do good in the leaderboards.
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>>387324253
Arena by far requires the most critical thinking and on the spot strategy.
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>>387324224
>>387324230
I think I forgot how fast your minions die anyway.
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>>387324323
Well they'll both be gone by April, it'll be interesting to see what Shaman becomes after that.
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So is there any point in playing Heartstone if im a F2P player? From what I seen I have to buy tons of packs in order to get cards and be able to play vs other people.
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>>387324336
It's cool, but I refuse to play any game that wont let me build the deck I want without grinding or spending 200 bucks
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>>387324378
>>387324393
>>387324406
>draft a better deck
>win
>dont
>lose
kripp sure is good at picking the best cards with his addon
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>>387324415
Its Shaman's """IDENTITY""" now so they'll just reprint evolve but make an AoE minion.
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>>387324440
Well I'm f2p but I've been playing for years. So for a new f2p? No.
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>We will never get a collectible card videogame that isn't a complete fucking cash-grab whale-farm ever again

The only way to have fun with this ruined genre is to play fucking Cockatrice
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>>387324440
well if you're a good player, you can do well enough at arena to fund more arena games indefinitely
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>>387324497
next expansion will do more frozen shit
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>>387324440
Play the brawl every week, do quests, possibly learn how to play arena. I'm a completely f2p player and I have a few decent, if cheap decks.

>>387324496
Reaching the leaderboards means beating thousands of other players doing the exact same thing, meaning there's more to it than just drafting well.
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>>387324496
You've never watched him draft an Arena deck have you?

If you did you'd know he goes by heartharena tiers 2 thirds the time, he uses it so his viewers get an idea of whats generally percieved as good.
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>>387317754
Doesn't fix any of the problems the game had.
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>>387324539
>you can do well enough at arena to fund more arena games indefinitely

The problem is that arena is random so you can get screwed over
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>>387317754
_____ __ ____ _____!
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What's the likelihood they'll nerf druid into the ground? I kinda want to craft the DK.
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>>387324614
well yeah, you will get screwed over. it just means you have to stomp even harder when you aren't.
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>>387324527
>tfw you're not a wealthy developer so you can make a GOOD card game and also release full expansions for like twenty bucks
I just want a good tactics card game with depth and cool graphics
also no draws, you just play shit from your library
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>>387324595
>>387324604
>triggered krippkucks
arena is a shit game mode for people who cant build decks and read the meta. Kripp frequently loses to and complains about someone drafting a better deck. Even spells like meteor, which are epic, constantly show up but cant be played around. You just play the odds.
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>>387322331
almost my exact list
>tfw reason to run velen
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>>387324614
I consistently get to about 7-8 wins
occasionally I get fucked over and in only 3 or so but I get 12 at about the same rate I get fucked over so the balance remains positive
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>>387324527
>We will never get a collectible card videogame that isn't a complete fucking cash-grab whale-farm ever again

Gwent gives you 1-3 packs a day for simply playing the game unlike like in hearstone where you have to grind quets for days to buy a single pack.
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>>387324681
I don't think the Druid's DK is the problem, it's just all the endless taunt buffs. But even then I haven't been that impressed by Druid, since Shaman's devolve and a lot of Paladin's kit destroys their taunt walls.
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>>387324705
The only way I could see a card game working without card draws is if both players had their turns at the same time but how the hell would you make that?
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>>387324731
>bringing up reasonable arguments is getting triggered

Yes, Kripp does indeed get salty all the time, and arena is definitely unfair at times. He still has a very good winrate, which means there's more to it than that.

You also completely ignored what was being said. Are you unable to refute it?
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>>387322331
>>387324761
>mfw I have all those cards except Raza but I can't justify crafting him just to use him for 8 months before he rotates out.
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>>387324761
>tfw HP, Velen, HP, 1 cost, HP, 2 cost, HP
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>>387324731
>i have no skill in reading the situation, the chances, and my choices
>therefor there is no choice i can make to improve the odds of me winning, since I see no difference between options because my lack of knowledge
>in my eyes, everything is random
>my frustration and sense of inferiority makes me mask these facts, so I dismiss a game mode that has been proved once and again to put good players on top of the scoreboard consistently
That will be 100 dollarydoos
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>>387324881
the difference isnt as large as you think. Kripp is good at games, that doesn't mean anything for arena itself. He's good at path of exile too. Wouldnt say that makes it any good. The merits of one player dont hold up an entire game mode.
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>>387325038
whatever helps you sleep at night. I understand risk mitigation, doesnt mean i want to play dice.
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>>387325070
>a gamemode that puts the best players on top is not a good game mode
Ok mate, enjoy your paystone
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>>387325147
You can understand a concept and still have no idea about how to take advantage of it.

Which is the case here. That why you see it as a dice roll
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>>387325070
Part of the reason I like arena myself is because I feel I'm pretty good at it. Not enough to reach the leaderboards, because I don't really play that much, but enough that I've never felt the need to pay for anything in Hearthstone.
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>>387324705
>>also no draws, you just play shit from your library

the fuck

this would be the most boring card game ever

anti-rng fags are the worst. you should have randomness in a card game, just not as much as hearthstone.
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>>387325369
but anon you can't be good, it is all pure luck!
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>>387325263
>You can understand a concept and still have no idea about how to take advantage of it.

not him but how do you take advantage of randomness? Hell fucking Pavel won the tournament just on a lucky draw from the mage book that gives you a random spell. And this is not the only time somebody won just based on luck, there is no way to play around it
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>>387322787
do people not run silence any more? everyone used owl when i played
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>>387325263
It's amazing to me how many CARD GAME players complain about randomness. Imagine actually thinking that arena is not skill intensive.
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>>387324856
infinity wars already did it, simultaneous turns that is
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>>387325507
They bumped Owl's cost from 2 mana to 3 making it completely useless in terms of tempo.
The 1 out of 4 games where itr got you victory mean nothing when you're forced to draw an understated card.
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>>387325484
Owl got nerfed, they have tried to reduce the prolificacy of silence effects.

>>387325484
Brian Kibler has an interesting video on this. He points out how Pavel had an insane record outside of those famously lucky games.
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>>387325484
>"how do you take advantage of randomness?"
If you are making this question you must have the attention span of a cat on LSD.
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>Arena
>Win
Feel shit cuz you just played on curve better and didnt get punished
>Lose
Feel shit cuz you didnt hit curve or could not punish the opponents

In the end, its all about how lucky you get in the draft for getting your curve on point and having good picks. After that you could just put on a bot and there is no difference.
So its perfect game mode for casuals
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>>387325484
>not him but how do you take advantage of randomness?
Can't tell if you are talking about arena or constructed : ^)
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>>387325743
Nice to hear that you have no answer to that question.
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>>387325507
Owl is now 3 mana and keeper of the grove is now 2/2. I used to run spellbreaker in my paladin decks but these days it doesn't feel like there's room for it.
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>>387325736

>Kibler

opinion discarded
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>>387325736
>kibler
really nigga
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>>387325837
>still doesn't see the answer
t. sape
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>>387325736
>kibler
>"HAHA, LOOK AT ME, IM SO FANCY HAHA"
>"IM THE DRAGON MASTER HAHAHAH I JUST PUT DRAGONS IN MY DECK AND IF IT DOESNT WORK I CAN JUST SAY ITS A MEME DECK HAHHAA"
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>>387325850
>>387325905
t. rank15 twitch chat
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>>387326007
Still better than amaz
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>>387325369
>this would be the most boring card game ever
maybe if it's retardedly simplistic so every game is the same because there's nothing to it but playing on curve

every other strategy game lets you do what you want when you want it, just because it's a card game doesn't mean there's something special about it that has to be random, especially on a computer where physical restrictions mean fuck all anyway
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>>387326029

t. assblasted redditor
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>>387325850
>>387325905
>>387326007
Brian McCormick Kibler[7] (born September 7, 1980) is an American collectible card game player, game designer, and streamer. In 2016 Kibler helped design Drawing Dead.[8][9] Previously, he designed Ascension: Chronicle of the Godslayer with Justin Gary, Rob Dougherty and John Fiorillo,[10] and worked on Chaotic and SolForge and was the lead designer of the World of Warcraft Trading Card Game.[11][12] He is currently a design consultant for Eternal.[13]

Kibler is also a professional card player, and has had great success at Magic: The Gathering with five Pro Tour Top 8s, winning Pro Tour Austin in 2009[14] and Pro Tour Honolulu in 2012.[15] He also has 13 Grand Prix Top 8s, winning three of them including the first one held in the 1997ā€“98 season and most recently Grand Prix Sendai.[16] In August 2004, he won the inaugural VS System Pro Circuit event taking home $40,000 and a spot in history as the game's first champion.[

I am absolutly sure that he knows more about the game than you can even dream.
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>>387323940
i just want the uh card back

>>387322846
jade druiding rn and losing to guldan the broken and highlander priest
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>>387324856

I know a game that played exactly like that and it was fucking terrible, everyone just played their combo (that they could always pull off because you played card from your library) using their expensive premium cards and every game played the fucking same

(It was called alteil by the way)
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>>387323260
toss me the deck desu
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>>387326057
Amaz is an arena specialist you can't compare them
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>>387324916
Raza is fucking boss as fuck regardless, and great for meme decks in wild. You should've already crafted him
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>>387326162
He also married Natalie
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>>387326162
I am absolutely sure after watching him on kotft reveal stream he doesn't know shit
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>>387326349

wasn't she fucking behind his back?
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How viable are miracle rogues in this meta?
Are there at least any new cards tha fit into a miracle rogue deck for fun in casual?
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>>387326315
Kripp is complete ass and is still better than Amaz at arena and constructed.
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>>387324827
Shills are this retarded nowadays?
You can easily get at least one pack in Hearthstone every day.
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>>387326315
>Amaz is an arena specialist you can't compare them
>Amaz
>good in arena

I been watching him for a long time since people told me to watch him in order to get better in arena. But the guy goes average 3-5win or even less. The only time I saw him go 12 was with a very lucky mage draw.
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>>387326340
I only finally got aboard the priest train in April thanks to THE GLORY OF A NEW SUN so I haven't really thought about crafting Priest cards.
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>>387326074
yeah and every other strategy game has a 2d or 3d plane that you have to constantly interact with, and you have to handle macro, micro and strategy at the same time

what you are suggesting is a baby mode crazymonkeygames.com flash-game version of starcraft where you just click cards out of your library in a memorized order until someone with a better tier deck cleans you up

the fact that you think you can take RNG out of card games and still have a working game means that you have been infected with reddit tier RNG-hate aids and you probably play league of legends while shitposting in dota 2 threads about how void has a 25% bash that sometimes procs too many times in a row
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>>387324705
>>387324856
>>387325369
This already exists, it's called Yu-Gi-Oh
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>>387325736
>Brian Kibler has an interesting video on this
Does he have a separate channel for his interesting/informative videos? This is what is hearthstone channel looks like.
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>>387326467
Is that why kripp is consistently one of the top ranked arena players every month, you fucking coon?
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>>387317754
>Google that card
>It's real
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>>387326470
>You can easily get at least one pack in Hearthstone every day.

Yeah if you can waste your whole day and win 16 games since most of the time you get 40g quest
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>>387326470
>Easily

Assuming you don't get the "win 7 games in any mode" quest every single day, you'd need to get a 60 gold quest and then win 12 games. Depending on your rank and deck that could be easy, but it's still rather time consuming.
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>>387326162

no one said that kibler is shity player
the problem is that kibler is now blizzards little bitch and because of it use all kind of mental gymnastic to justify every problem of hs
even stupid salty dipshit like kripp called him out on his bullshit
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>>387322787
you don't really mind if they devolve it since it will just get bigger.
good card in zoo or pally.
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>>387326606
Omnislash/Omnistone has most of his opinion based videos these days, I'm not sure if the one anon is talking about is on there though.
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>>387326606
Currently Omni/. He has alot of videos where he breaks down the meta, cards, and the luck meme. But that video the Anon is talking about is somewhere in his regular channel.

Also, Disguised Toast got to Legend in 3 days with a f2p account, where he also played arena for the extra dust but immediately surrendered at 3 wins since that is the average winrate in NA.
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>>387326606
I think this is the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmqz4Fun94k
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any good decks that have a good wr? hovering at rank 6 with jade druid, need that extra push to legend
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>>387327095
>stuck with jade druid
Not sure a new deck will help you.
Try zoo or something
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>>387323585
Devolve has always been pretty consistently great.
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>>387327193
reason i'm stuck honestly being THE NEW SUN and gul'dan. Everything else is pretty tolerable with a 60-70% wr
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>>387324465
So you don't play card games?
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Handbuff paladin is the most frustrating deck to play in the whole goddamn game. I'm having some success with it, but hooooooly shit it's fucking draw-dependent.

>six cards that the entire deck revolves around
>if you don't draw at least two of them by turn 5, the entire deck falls apart

Every fucking match is an emotional rollercoaster.
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>>387325912
not even that anon but when your reply is no u, maybe don't hit that post button
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>>387327498
Get fucked jade scum, I love destroying your asses with handlock.
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>>387326349
damn thats a shitload of makeup, i wonder what kind of monster lies in wait beneath it
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>>387326589
>yeah and every other strategy game has a 2d or 3d plane that you have to constantly interact with
what do you think "tactics card game" means? As far as I know tactics games are on a 2d plane. And library play does so much more than just remove RNG, it allows for more flexibility and migates bullshit deck matchups, because it removes the concept of dead draws, so instead of your aggro deck being only an aggro deck, you can decide to play aggro depending on how the game goes, while good deck construction mechanics would prevent your deck from being able to do anything and every deck being the same. A card game called Codex has a half/half version of this, you've got your hand, library AND draw pile, and every turn you shuffle two cards from your library into your draw pile, discard your hand and draw that many +2 and shuffle your graveyard into your draw pile whenever the latter is emptied, so counterplay is at the level of ingame play, not deck construction. You can remove unwanted cards from the circulation by playing them as mana sources.

and I'm not saying that drawing cards is crap either, but it's not something that has to be standard, and part of what I want from a tactics card game (creatures being weighed more heavily towards health than attack so you get more time to play with them) is not that compatible with the standard method of card drawing, (tanky creatures require a more restrictive cost to play them or they'll flood the board, and if you can only play 1 guy every 3 turns then standard card draw will flood your hand, so you remove card draw altogether)

I still play and love like, 5+ card games with random card draw
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>>387327843
just FYI the kind of game you want would only have one viable deck
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>>387327818
up yours, get fucked by highlander priest desu!

PS take a ride on pic related!
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>>387317754
People still play Hearthstone?
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>>387328008
I see no reason why that should be the case unless the developers are terrible at balancing
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>>387317754
>playing full burgle rogue
>palying agians NeĀ“soth /mindvision priest
>steal his Sylvanis with confuse + cabal pristes
>steal his 4/8 with lifesteal with my 8 mana mindcontrol
>he plays Archbishop when i have 7 cards left, most are just draws like loothorders and mimicpods
>he consides before i can play the spell changing legendary rogue card
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>>387326589
The fact that you think you -can't- take RNG out of card games proves that you only play incredibly terrible games.

There are hundreds of perfectly viable games with no or low amounts of luck. Abstract games like Chess or Go or modern euros like Concordia, Agricola, Puerto Rico, etc. If a game is still stale due to a lack of RNG, it's because its a shitty game with no counterplay options.
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>>387328367
I might stop after this expansion. They finally did a Lich King theme which was all I ever wanted, so I'm not sure what else they could do to get me excited.
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Rotations was a mistake. Now their core design philosophy is to just force specific themes for classes and then once that gets rotated out, they replace it with a single new team. The end result is that the classes all just play either a style of deck they've had since the beginning of Hearthstone, or some sort of gimmicky deck they've been forced into. A good example of this is Rogue.

The rotations don't really make much sense either. They said some cards were hindering design space or were being overused, but they also balance the game with Wild in mind so clearly that isn't an issue. If cards are being overused, that's what nerfing is for or adding new cards that fulfill other niches. The spell damage from Azure Drake was hardly relevant for a lot of decks that ran it. It's sad Blizzard could never figure out a five drop that would be as useful for non Mage and Rogue decks.
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>>387324827

Gwent's fucking great but I wonder how the meta will evolve in the long run
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>>387328367
Hell I played through the entire MSoG meta and ungoro was delightful, but this expansion is so boring I finally stopped
Why not go and print full retarded cards after this point instead of trying to salvage it with most borign and mediocre shit
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One of the worst expansions so far. The RNG has been dialed up even higher with every single non aggro deck running Lich King. Games are determined by random pulls from it. Druid is way busted and Priest is not too far off from him either. Death Knights were a horrible idea because a lot of matchups boil down to cycling to try to get your DK on curve. Just like with Quests they are trying to force playstyles onto players and adding cards that support that playstyle. It is hindering creativity and also a very blatant attempt at pushing the meta to be exactly how they want it to be.
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>>387328935
Azure Drake was fucking strong in Shaman too.
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>>387329130
I'm sure Lich King's omni-presence will be dialed back in a month once everyone gets over the novelty of the expansion and goes back to pirate warrior.
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>>387325830
>play arena
>11 wins
>fighting for board with other player
>we're both playing pretty well
>he's actually slowing winning the board
>he, by all rights deserves to win
>I've been holding deathwing all this time

you feel like shit but you take those 12 wins
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>>387329162
Yeah it was. My point still stands though that there was no reason why so many decks ran it except that there were not a lot of good five drops. Rather than figure out how to make good ones, Blizzard just swept it under the rug.

>>387329260
I feel like the only deck I can win games with right now is Pirate Warrior. I'm not a professional streamer so I can't afford the insanely expensive decks out right now. I main Rogue and the class has never felt as awful as it does now. Blizzard's push toward control decks is such an obvious means of trying to get people to craft a shit ton of legendaries that will get cycled out, thus forcing them to do it all over again.
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>>387327671
Try exodia mage
its one of the most inconsistent decks I've ever playing but it's pretty fun when it goes off

>when a warrior thinks he's safe behind 20 armor and 5 taunts
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>>387329528
>play constructed
>Rank 5
>playing against a jade druid
>We're both playing pretty well
>He's slowly winning the board
>He goes all in and dumps everything on an auctioneer turn to get up to 15/15 jades.
>I've been holding deathwing all this time

No better feeling.
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>>387329042
>Gwent's fucking great but I wonder how the meta will evolve in the long run

Well new cards are getting added in like a month or so, so we will have to wait and see
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>>387329602
>Blizzard's push toward control decks is such an obvious means of trying to get people to craft a shit ton of legendaries that will get cycled out, thus forcing them to do it all over again.
That's one way to look at it. Another is that people hate playing against constant go face aggro decks that beat you by turn 5 and Blizzard is trying to change that.

I agree that Rogue feels bad and I'm not surprised Rogue players would be feeling bad about this expansion, but honestly I've never been great with Rogue so Rogue always feels bad to me.
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>>387329693
problem with deathwing in constructed is that its more of a dead card given everyone has some form of removal or kills you before you can play it

yeh it fucks with druid, but so does that new 6 mana
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>make aggro decks inexpensive
>make control decks insanely expensive
>make the whole game blatantly pay to have more than one viable deck in a meta
>wonder why everyone plays aggro
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>>387330131
People play aggro because they want to win faster as well, not only because the decks are cheap. Winning one 4 minute game with pirate warrior is more appealing to some people than losing a 30 minute control match up against freeze mage. I saw someone complaining the other day that the meta was so slow now he couldn't poop and play any more.
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>>387326750
when did kripp do this i would like to see. Kibler elf has went full ass kisser and it started when priest was complete trash and they let him do the reveal for the over powered fucking dragon priest cards.
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