SCALEBOUND was always destined for cancellation

>>387315847
>helped Platinum recoup all of their losses.
If you want to shitpost at least dont be stupid anon

Platinum is a free lancer, they dont have losses when a game is canceled on undersales

>>387315915
>they dont have losses
A genuine idiot

Seeing Platinum's recent streak of shovelware games, this doesn't sound very convincing to be honest.
I'm more inclined to believe Kamiya just fucked up and didn't know what he even wanted to do with Scalebound.

>>387315915
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-08-15-nier-director-yoko-taro-saved-platinumgames-according-to-hideki-kamiya
>Yoko Taro saved Platinum
the devs themselves seem to not agree with you anon

>>387315847
This sounds like something posted by a member of black helicopter crowd.
MS has enough cash made by Windows and Office divisions to outright buy them if they wished to and they are not averse making a huge investments.

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>>387315847
Nier Automata is shit though. The gameplay is fucking horrible even worse than TMNT and Transformers devestation.

The only thing that anyone talks about is 2Bs ass. That's all the game is good for, what a shit game...

>>387316008
>>387315960
so reading comprehension is bad from you 2 I guess

>>387316008
>>387315847
>"Nier's success has to this point given Platinum a new fanbase, a growing staff, a brilliant success story, an increase in qualified job applicants, and a great benefit," Kamiya said on Twitter

THIS is all you should take from the article. The rest is complete and utter conjecture.

>>387315915
Is right. Microsoft sure as fuck didn't help Platinum but they weren't out money.

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>>387316019
>outright buy them
Only if they agree to being bough. A hostile takeover ala Arkane Studios requires a company to actively inflict damage, which is what Xbox/Microsoft did, you shill.

>>387316039
>Nier Automata is shit though. The gameplay is fucking horrible even worse than TMNT and Transformers devestation.
>implying any of these have bad gameplay

>>387315847
Moronic weeb. MS was footing the bill for the game. It was platinum's shovelware streak that put them in trouble. Your post sounds like a retarded anime plot.

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>>387315847
could you even imagine if microsoft bought platinum

>>387316530
im kinda sure Platinum is not even an open trade company. so there is not way to buy em unless they want to sell

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>>387316530
/v/ would shit itself in anger.

Also, pic related would happen again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfaN267lI_Y

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There's no good porn of 2b

>>387315847
but cancelling scalebound only lost microsoft money.

>>387315847
This thread makes no sense.

A developer is a contractor.
A publisher is the entity paying a contractor to do work.

Microsoft paid them masses of money to make Scalebound, Platinum made tons of money and Microsoft lots tons of money.

It's like paying a builder make a wall on your property, if you cancel it you still have to pay for the work they did upto that point.

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With Microshit joos, you lose.

Swery learned this now he lives on the streets,

>>387316202
Name calling really helps your 'argument' and makes you look like well spoken and smart person.

>>387315847
Holy fuck at least take a good look at Scalebound.

It was a game running still at 20FPS with dips and nothing interesting to show besides ordering your dragon to kill shit for you in a Platinum game. Microsoft had probably VERY GOOD reasons to cancel it.

>>387317163
It was a PC game.

>>387316125
>Normally, I can't help but do everything by myself... it's a pitiful story, but to say that Yoko-san saved Platinum would not be an exaggeration. I cannot thank him enough
Literally the next paragraph, you dolt.

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>a few pro-xbox threads get made
>all of a sudden all of /v/ is in a state of emergency, sonyfaggots literally foaming at the mouth making threads 24/7 and sperging

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>>387315847
Scalebound was a piece of shit that deserved to be cancelled and only weebs that never cared about it until it got cancelled will defend it.
Platinum made a shit game with a shit MC and a shit framerate and couldn't deliver it after 3 years and a delay.

>>387317225
It was Xbox One game with probably a PC port through that Microsoft shit service. Doesn't excuse 20FPS and lack of any good gameplay.

People are sucking Kamiya's dick even when he has shown nothing good in Scalebound, and holy shit I actually planned to check it out when it comes out on PC.

>>387315847
Microsoft doesn't use that strategy. If they were looking to buy JP studios there were better options available.

More likely, this is a classic case of their managerial bungling.

>>387317280
Yes that's where he's thanking Taro.

Your reading comprehension is fucking horrid.

>>387317004
Now he's forced to make video games about cats to get by.

>>387317447
>but to say that Yoko-san saved Platinum would not be an exaggeration.
>Yoko-san saved Platinun
>saved
So is yours.

>>387315847
this would make sense if most of the money behind the game was from MS wallet, like they did with Tomb Raider

they lost jack shit dumb weeb

>>387317043
Baby gonna cry about it? Baby want his mommy?

>>387317567
So where does it say Microsoft tried to buy them out and were going to?

>>387317682
Nowhere. Why would Microsoft care about Platinum games?

>>387317578
>they lost jack shit dumb weeb

For each massive project you would set out a development schedule.
A schedule that needs to be balanced out with other project.
Platinum is a small studio, and I am sure a massive chunk of their workforce, and time were already set aside for such a big project for years.
Microsoft have stopped funding for Scalebound when Platinum missed the milestone around early 2016, essentially making them jobless and at the brink of shutting down.

Losing jack shit? They almost lost the whole damn fucking studio.

>>387316268
Tmnt had horrible gameplay with tons of shitty ideas like cool down for moves, no way to remove the cool down or speed it up, no way to max out your health

It was a horrible system

>>387318024
>Microsoft have stopped funding for Scalebound when Platinum missed the milestone around early 2016, essentially making them jobless and at the brink of shutting down.
Whose fault would you think it is? And where is the proof of actual Platinum finances.

Microsoft lost 3 years worth of money in this. I wonder what are they going to do with all the assets.

this is bullshit, but I belive it
I mean, its fucking microsoft

>>387316039
>The only thing that anyone talks about is 2Bs ass
>game praised by game reviewers who usually bitch about fanservice

why do shitposters always ignore this? It's fine if you think the game is shit, but saying it only got praise due to fanservice is blatantly false.

>>387317305
This board is neofag jr. What do you expect? You have people seething, getting hypertension and foaming like rabid animals if an xbox thread goes up

>Microsoft cancels Scalebound in January.
>Renews trademark in May.

Its sad but you know exactly what happened. Last thing they needed, on top all their exclusive delays and cancellations is Sony sweeping it up under their noses, releasing it on PS4 and claiming its only possible there, what with all the rumors going around it was cancelled due to massive performance issues.

So Microsoft will keep holding on to that trademark to prevent Scalebound ever coming out.

I mean they don't hold the IP, so technically the game could still come out on a different platform under a different name but that's not really damaging to MS, they just want to avoid that particular name coming out on a Sony platform and them raking in on all the "Scalebound had performance issues on Xbox, released on Playstation instead" headlines.

>>387317339
>It was Xbox One game with probably a PC port
you realize an xbone is literally just a fucking gimped pc right? It even uses windows.
The days of console architeture being radically different than a pc are long gone.

>>387318240
Sit on them like they do everything they own lol

>>387318289
they only post shit that's why they're shitposters

>>387315915
>Platinum is a free lancer, they dont have losses when a game is canceled on undersales
That's exactly why they're losses you fucking retard. They pay the employees and then don't make money back on the canceled product = FUCKING LOSSES YOU MORON.

>>387318338
>I mean they don't hold the IP

How do you know that? I think they probably do, along with whatever software was generated.

>>387318358
You do fucking realize that the same could be said about PS4 if you forget about Windows. Microsoft still had only plans to port it through their shitty service which I think is still Win10 only.

But sure go emulate Xbox One right now bro.

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>>387318391
That would be a waste considering Scalebound was an AAA game and it's pretty expensive for the publisher.

>>387318135
Its Platinum fault for trying to bed with a fucking Microsoft.
Open world and online elements were never their thing, I'm pretty sure these 2 elements were forced into the game development.

>And where is the proof of actual Platinum finances.

Nier Automata being the only Platinum project + statement from Kamiya that said project saved the studio?

>>387318432
>and then don't make money back on the canceled product
its by contract, they already got paid X or Y amount

>>387318432

That only applies if they agreed to some fucked up contract that says MS pays them NO MONEY AT ALL until the product is complete. They were already paid a certain amount of money during development. Can't just own all the assets and code from a developer without giving him anything.

>>387318507
>Nier Automata being the only Platinum project
That's not a proof you moron. Might as well call Platinum working on several projects a proof of them being a big studio.

Actual big studios often work on one project.

>statement from Kamiya that said project saved the studio?
Nothing about finances there, he talked about future prospects.

>>387318484
>You do fucking realize that the same could be said about PS4
yes, I do. Which is why I said
>The days of console architeture being radically different than a pc are long gone.

> go emulate Xbox One right now bro.
If you use windows 10 you already are.

>>387318603
>If you use windows 10 you already are.
No. It's native not emulation.

>>387318603
And yet we still can't play PS4 exclusives on PCs.

>painting Microsoft to be some evil empire
Oh come on, it's like I'm on /g/.
Microsoft actually provides much friendlier conditions for video game devs than the Japanese conglomerates. Now those are the actual slave drivers.

>>387316737
I don't think Arkane was, either. In their situation, their options were either go under, or sell themselves to Bethesda.

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>people are still crying over shitbound
lmao

>>387318692
yeah, because contracts. There's nothing about the ps4 architecture that prevents games from being ported to xbone or pc.

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>>387316039
If it's shit then why has it been a major success and saved a company?
Really gets those neurons firing...

>>387318849
Yes, and? Doesn't change that Scalebound was Xbone release that might've dropped on PC if you had Win10.

>>387316039
Transformers Devastation has great gameplay though. It's literally just Bayonetta.

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ITT: "Oh boy! Time to invalidate other people's opinions again!"

>>387318869
Agreed my good sir! If games like call of duty and overwatch are a major success they are good and not shit! You're very right!

>>387317305
this is good tho
microshills doesnt belong here

>>387319046
You can't invalidate opinions, because they're just that - opinions.

>>387318595
Nobody outside of Platinum know full details of their situation, but Its still a massive loss if you got a big project cancelled in the middle of the development even though you didn't fork out a single dime for it.
Scalebound cancellation is a massive blow to the studio who looks it as a big prospect, egg in a basket thing.

Kamiya tweet felt very emotional (at least for me) and heavily implied that Nier project literally saved the studio.

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>>387315847
>The plan was to purchase the entire studio outright

>>387318916
an xbone release is the same as a pc release.

>>387319135
>microshills doesnt belong here

So other shills are okay?

>>387319135
You don't belong here either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_MZ-MmyIbU
>dubstep
Check
>Shit MC
Check
>no fanservice
Check
>20 fps
Check
What a fukin shit show

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>gooks refuse to meet deadlines, waste time, effort and money on nier
>complain when it gets cancelled and they lose money

>>387319163
>felt
OK no proofs anywhere case closed.

>>387319197

I think he meant if they were in a dire situation financially, they'd accept a buyout before dissolving the studio or letting go of a lot of people.

>Lets spend millions of dollars for no reason which only hurts our image and brand
Occams razor, read about it. Give it also enough thought and research and you'll realize Platinum is a small fucking studio with around 200 people at max. During the development of Scalebound they had 4 other games in development or finishing up development. One a singleplayer RPG, a AAA sequel, work on a game for Nintendo, and a couple shovelware games for activision. It's pretty apparent from their workload they didn't have enough manpower to make a singeplayer RPG with multiplayer and mechanics that rely on incredibly complex AI and programming. Even looking at it from a purely conceptual opinion Scalebound as a concept is borderline impossible to make fun. Let's assume it was to be a regular old RPG with rather simple combat, even with that it would be basically impossible to make fun. There has yet to be a single fun game where your health is linked with an AI companion for the entire game. Now throw in the fact that they apparently were trying to make combos work with the Dragon and the player. Imagine how unreliable AI is, now imagine trying to pull off DMC combos that are reliant on AI performing the correct moves at the correct time. The whole concept reeks of Kamiya not thinking past "This would be cool".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qI7cFzbQdc
This the most underwhelming boss fight i have ever seen.
>WHY WON'T YOU DIE
What a fukin shit MC, couldn't be more awful.

>>387319458

Gameplay doesn't look bad but it seems to be running at worse than 20 FPS for the most part as soon as the gameplay starts.

>>387315847
This is bullshit, japanese's law doesn't allow foregein companies to buy theirs.

>>387315847
dont kid yourself platdrone
scalebound looked like absolute fucking garbage vapourware. It was a project that bald manlet just could handle
Niers gameplayer is barely satisfactory. Characters, designs and music is what made it. All of it is on Taro

>Get 3 years of development time
>Can't get the game to run above 15 fps
>Every single showing people say the game looks really rough even 3 years into development
>Nuh uh it couldn't possibly be Platinums fault while they took on tons of projects instead of focusing on their 2 big ones
Not to mention their recent input has been mediocre at best. All of their games now are just copy pasted mechanics from Bayo or MGR with a new skin. The Platinum that used to make a Shooter, multiplayer Brawler, RPG, and Hack and Slash in a few years no longer exists. Now they're just recycling the same shit over and over.

It was too ambitious.

>>387320063
>>387320103
LEAVE HIDEKI ALONE

>>387315847
>The plan was to purchase the studio outright
How fucking stupid are you? Japanese law prevents outside companies from either buying or creating companies in Japan. Do you really think Microsoft would have funded the creation of fucking Feelplus and Mystwalker and not owned them if they could? But of course the Japs are just fine and lobby our government so they can buy up previously great devs like Crystal Dynamics and IO just to run them into the fucking ground.

>>387316039
Story was good enough to keep me going for the 30 hours it took to complete the game
And the OST is great

If only Nintendo ported W101 to the Switch early on

Lord knows people would've bought it this time around considering there was fuckall to play on it besides Zelda

>>387319108
But the key difference here is that Nier is a singleplayer game without any drastically simplified aspects, the game's your comparing it to are.

I want 2B 2 sit on my face.

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>Kamiya wanted to make singleplayer game about little girl and her dragon
>MS forced him to change concept into dudebro coop openworld with loot
>somehow it's Platinum's fault
You people are so retarded sometimes.

>>387323046
>Little girl and her dragon
What? That sounds cool as fuck, aren't you bullshitting? Shiw evidence

>>387323046
>>387320103

>>387323879
No, look it up. It was his initial idea, his dream game. But it wasn't cool enough for Microsoft.

Scalebound was a fukin disaster, that's why it got canned after 3 years. Microsoft don't want its own ""the last guardian' to happen.

>>387324020
Platinum always do a game they want to make. That's exactly the reason why they left Clover, they didn't want to be Inafune's puppets. Then MS hire them and start to mess around with weird requests about making this and that and add that and doesn't care about Kamiya's vision. What did you expect from them? That's not how they work. If you remember Kamiya's tweets during Scalebound's development - he was greatly displeased by working with MS.

>>387316008

Ass literaly saves platinum again


when will they learn?

>anoying dudes
wont sell
>cute chicks
Sells

>>387315915
Even if Microsoft payed the development costs of Scalebound, Platinum still wasted 4 years of their major development team withouth making a penny. Considering that the studio has other, non Scalebound related expenses too, the studio was indeed losing money.

>>387324442
>metal gear rising
>not selling

>>387325463
>raiden
>not the cutiest chick MC metal gear ever had

>>387315915
Anon is as retarded as always, I see.

>>387326249
You are retarded. Microsoft lost more money in this than PG did.