the boss battles are shit

>>387304935
Doubtful

>>387305551
studiopolis and stardust bosses are terrible anon

>>387304935
SONIC. WUZ. NEVER. GOOD

>>387305590
How the fuck you not like Bazooka Boy and Weather Chicken? You dumb.

>>387304935
Doubtful

>>387305590
Unsure

>>387305658
>>387305551
have you like not played it yet? are you pcbros?

idk why people find these games fun. Nostalgia blinds people. Constant frustration and blueballs from losing speed because of sometihng you can't possible predict

i imagine the only fun from this game comes from memorizing levels and executing shit perfectly, but that's only fun if you're a sperg

this game is just frustrating and cancer and not even close to fun to replay which is something you will have to do because the game has a horrible and dated system where you have to replay act 1 if you run out of lives in act 2

i'm just glad they didn't go with classic sonic and have you completely start over when you run out of lives, i would've dropped this garbage right away

1. Glad i didn't waste any $$$ on this and my brother bought it

2. Hope the bosses aren't all so poorly made because so far only 2/8 have been fun

>>387305678
Yes. Honestly ive been trying not o spoil myself so I dont even know which bosses they are

>>387305714
lovely spacing
>>>/neogaf/

>>387305740
well anon that's not to say they're all bad but you should probably go before spoilers creep in

>>387304935
Chemical plant zone act 2 would like to have a word with you about that!

>>387305783
is that the one with the helicopters and rockets

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>>387304935
Nah they're ok

>>387305590
>>387305639
Weather chicken was great bazooka boy was shit

>>387305809
That's the Mean Bean Machine callback that came out of nowhere

>>387305740
bosses are fun but difficulty is all over the map and not at all congruent with game progression, shit's ridiculous

>>387305714
I have absolutely no nostalgia for these games. I played my first sonic game last year.
While ok didn't find it anything special but playing sonic mania I'm having fun. It's a great game.

>>387305753
i've been using 4chan since 2005 and have never heard of neogaf

>>387305939
stop trying

>>387305714
>Nostalgia blinds people.
I was a SNES kid and I had fun with Mania.

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Alright lets talk about real problems.

Did my second run with Knuckles and got all the emeralds by act 1 of Studiopolis. Now once you have all the emeralds anytime you try to glide while you have 50+ he goes super. This is only slightly annoying because I like to save up for 100+ for 1ups but I dealt with it because so level force you to glide and climb namely Mirage Zone act 1.

HOWEVER once I reached act 2 of Lava reef I encountered a spot in which you are forced to glide. Now it is a bottomless pit and once you try to glide you turn super if you have 50+ rings which will cancel your glide and leave you in a free fall state in which you can't start gliding again. This coupled with the fact that the closest checkpoint is far enough away for you to easily build 50+ rings makes this some serious shit.

So really all I'm asking for is that we can get 1 more button to push that will activate transformation.

>>387305714
1. Sonic 3&K uses the same save system and the others have level select so you just outed yourself not knowing what the fuck you're talking about
2. Try rolling or jumping when going fast retard
3. And this one's obligatory, git gud

Every boss is fun and creative, and at least one miniboss is a stand-out himself. scuba eggman

>Eggman in a wetsuit
>As a boss

I want what these idiots were smoking

>>387306135
>Everyboss

There are a few plain ones like act 1 chemical plant & act 1 green hill but I agree.

Although to add more onto this>>387306037
post I feel like it's also a detriment to go into certain bosses in super form. Mainly Metal Sonic

>>387306037
As far as real problems go I had the music completely stop in Lava Reef 1 for some reason.
Also the boss of Titan Monarch 2 can softlock the game by grabbing Tails with both of his hands leaving Sonic stuck unable to do anything but wait for it to time out

>>387306309
Yeah fortunately I haven't run into any bugs. Does anyone know it there is someone responding to these issues. I'd really like to get bugs and general gameplay kinks ironed out

>>387306037
One more problem because of the super state, is that you cannot anymore listen to the act ost

this game feels way harder than the originals

>>387304935
Literally my only complaint

That and some of the enemy placements are bullshit.

>>387305939
>using since"""""""""""""2005"""""""""""""""
you mean you heard about it on reddit in 2011 right

>>387305859
I hate that game

>>387304935
most boss battles in platformers suck. Just "follow the pattern" shit

>>387306414
>>387306379
w-what's the super state?

>>387306561
projecting

>>387305590
Am I the only one who thought the stardust speedway boss was incredible?

You know. Super sonic, knuckles, tails

>>387306750
nig

>>387306781
Nope. I loved every boss in the game.

>>387306781
no, I absolutely adored it

>>387306781
it's possibly my favorite

>>387305714
>Constant frustration and blueballs from losing speed because of sometihng you can't possible predict

This, sonic inherently works better in 3d, but Sonic Team couldn't stick with a single 3d formula to refine.

>>387304935
it's kinda funny to me
in S3&K, I never looked forward to the bosses and I just found them annoying, mostly
but in Mania, it feels pretty satisfying to beat every single boss and I look forward to the challenge

I think we can all agree that the Oil Ocean boss is objectively shit.

>>387308648
It really wouldn't be shit if you had a higher chance to regather some your rings if you get hit.

>>387305714
>Constant frustration and blueballs from losing speed because of sometihng you can't possible predict

Widescreen nigga. You can see shit now.

>>387308648
>have fire orb power up for this boss
>"aww fuck yea this is free"
>boss somehow stun locks you into the oil
>lose buff
>get hit by fire oil
>"ok whatever"
>die trying to get back on platform
Its like im in the 90's again I love this game

Can my friend play as tails while I'm sonic like in the pld PC game?

Is there a good strategy for the Titanic Monarch Act 2 boss? I usually just tank it to get hits in and keep grabbing my rings back.

yfw sonic gets in the boss machine in Hidrocitcy

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;__;

>>387308648
only if you're playing knuckles, he's easy as fuck as sonic or tails

>>387305783
I don't know why people gush over that boss so much, it's kinda neat, but all it is, is a piss-easy puyo-puyo match.

>>387309134
you mean eggman? just hang in the corner and spin dash him after he uses his shocks, and I guess just learn to dodge all of the heavies when you get warped (you can't dodge the hand-warp)

>>387309541
*She rides

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>>387305816

FOR YOU

>>387306037
>Now once you have all the emeralds anytime you try to glide while you have 50+ he goes super

Sonic 3 & Knuckles COMPLETE > Mania

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I made a sprite combining what I consider to be the best parts of the Sonic 3 designs and the Sonic Mania designs because I guess that's how I spend my time. I kind of hope for the sprites to go in a more refined direction if Sonic Mania 2 ever happens.

What do you think?

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>Metal is in Forces so chances are Classic Smeggman, Little Planet and the Heavy Leader were all transported through that same wormhole
>The stone is probabaly going to feature heavily in the story
>Mania is going to be forever ruined by it's autistic plot

>>387305783
It's shit because it's not platforming.

>>387306628
that applies to a lot more than just platformers

>>387310101
It's alright.

>>387305714
>Constant frustration and blueballs from losing speed because of sometihng you can't possible predict

Hold right to win detected.

No one is mentioning how most of the platforming can be done without holding any direction. It's more on rails than a modern Sonic game. Run into spring, wait 30 seconds for the route to end, repeat. Never have I been more convinced of a game being shilled.

>>387311614
This is only true of Chemical Plant Zone and this has always been the case.

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>beat the game without even game overing once
Games too easy, getting the emeralds was easy, and every boss was easy as hell

>>387310761
no, fuck you
platformers are an objectively terrible genre

>>387311952
thought that was Mike Matei for a second

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Post hacks that actually look better than Mania[/spoiler

>>387312093
wow great counterargument. you sure showed me.

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>387311614
I tried letting go of the stick on FBZ and game-over'd twice.

>>387312127
>please be patient. i have autism

>>387304935
Sonic went to having mediocre bosses to pretty decent bosses with this game the only thing is the bosses are very unconventional. If learning the game has no effect on the boss then the boss is not as fun as it could be. The bosses where sonic is on foot and jumping to hit the boss are the best ones. Puyo is cool and all but i'm no fan really so I could do without that boss and hydrocitybosses play like a fangame (Sonic chaos revolution where the whole gimmick was using eggmans machines with chase sections) boss.

>>387312093
>platformers are an objectively terrible genre
Go fuck yourself

>>387311952
I'm getting my ass kicked but my tv or gamepad has some input lag. The special stages are unbeatable for me after the second one I don't know what to do.

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So why didn't Tweaker work on this? What is he even doing?
Has he just descended into complete and total furshit? Is he in jail?

>>387312846
He got the chair

>>387305783
Complete unforgiveable shit.

It's like a Family Guy reference in videogame form

>Remember that time Robotnik had a Puyo Puyo spinoff

Putting a puzzleboss inside a high speed platformer is actually worse than when they put Fishing in Adventure 1. At least Big was optional. Every time I want to replay Chemical Plant, I have to force myself to play fucking Puyo Puyo.

It's the one time SEGA should have stepped in and told them to stop being fucking retarded. Put that shit in the extras menu where it belongs.

Naw, I only really had problems with the Flying Battery 2 boss:

>Knock him into spikes
>He doesn't get hurt
>Try to knock him when he's about to attack
>Phase through him and hit the spikes
>Try to knock him around to time him with the poles so I can knock him into the spikes
>Knocking him around causes you to bounce into the spikes
>Constantly arrive at the jump poles with bad timing with the spider invulnerable most of the time
>Have to constantly give up on jump poles until the timing lines up right
>Die to time out
>Second try, it still takes forever but I get it

I dunno, it just feels like I am doing something wrong. The timing of when to hit him just doesn't seem consistent. Sometimes when I hit him he gets spikes, and other times he hits the spikes and doesn't get hurt. And other times I just phase through him and hit the spikes instead. Am I just missing something?

>>387313307
>reddit spacing

>>387313431
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>387313307
The game fucked with your contorls more than I would have liked

>Puyo
>Eggmobile simulator
>Entire fight where your stuck in one of those water current chambers
>Shrinky Dinks fight

>>387313501
Figures you wouldn't know. You can go back now.

>>387310101
Its perfect,
I'm actually really annoyed with them using the Sonic 2 sprite

>>387313591
It's a shame too because Sonic games are actually really fun to watch as speedruns (no shit.) I can't imagine Mania will be as fun to watch there's all these times where the runners wont be in control of the game.

>>387313591
I'll at least give them points for variety, but some of the fights were more gimmicky than I would have liked and feel slow paced. I get that they wanted them to be more than just hitting Robotnik eight times but I think they may have tried too hard to be different. I still love the game though and have a lot of fun with it.

Imo the game is on par with the old games in terms of how good the levels are but the bosses are a step down from the ones in S3&K.

Only bosses I thought were good (off the top of my head)were;
Green Hill 1
Green Hill 2 (basically a rehash but its still good)
Chemical 2
Studiopolis 1
Press Garden 1
Oil Ocean 2 (also a rehash)
Lava Reef 1
Metalic Madness (100% copied from Sonic 1)
True Monarch 2

Sonic 2 still has the best bosses imo

>>387310587
>A good game is "forever ruined" because a bad game is loosely connected to or references it
Never did understand this logic. I guess Sonic 2 is retroactively shit now because 06 did that Akon version of Sweet Dreams?

>>387314182
Sonic 2 didn't exist with the purpose of being essentially a long-winded advert to 06, though

>>387314267
>Mania only exists as an advert for Forces
Considering how ambiguous the ending of Mania is, and that the potential tie-in factor doesn't even apply until you get the good ending, I'm pretty sure you're being a retard. There's no big "BUY FORCES" banner anywhere in the game, there's no shilling of the OC, there's just a couple of sound effects and an ambiguous portal scene at the end of the game. It's obvious that they WILL tie that in with Forces but you're still full of shit.

>>387314389
I feel like the stone at least is going to show up. Like it's linked to Infinite somehow thanks to the SFX.

>>387314628
Quite possibly yes. Still doesn't really matter though, a good game is a good game, even if a bad game is coming out in a few months that plans on riding the coattails of its success.

Those are the best bosses Sonic has ever seen.
And because they are actually a threat you gotta pay attention.
I collect more rings just for those boss fights so that I have more lives, I never had to do that in previous games.

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>yfw you beat a zone at 9:59

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>>387313751
>perfect
gosh you kind fellow

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>>387315295
>9'59''99

>>387310101
I know its how the sprite works but it's pretty weird that Sonic has grey eyes.

Even in the Sonic CD art done there's a picture of him with grey eyes.

>>387310101
I kinda prefer Sonic 3's design, but nice work.

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>>387316138
I made a second hybrid sprite. I almost want to send it to Christian Whitehead to see what he thinks.