who is the best female video game character and why is it samus?

>>387278759
Are we seriously giving robots genders now?

>>387278759
Samus
Jill Valentine
Claire Redfield
(Original) Lara Croft
Shanoa

>>387278759
Because like the Master Chief she's ruthless, kills aliens, saves the galaxy, and isn't afraid of anything.

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>>387279213
>isnt afraid of anything
>isnt

>>387278759
Because Samus is (from an outside perspective) a man that we can still sexualize, it's just that we choose when to do so. There is no added bullshit with Samus.

In the games Samus is Samus and that's it. Other M tried to create a new character based off of instances with the old character that only lorefigs would know about, most people hated the result so now casuals don't consider it relevant.

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There is not a single video game character who can come close to the charm or personality of my Marisa.

>>387279304
leave

>>387279304
He wasn't even using the meme there, but you're an animefag for a reason.

>>387282047
>>387282328

>>387279304
Never mind, Anon. You made me smile.

>>387280463
Even then Other M was more weird than anything. Samus is a very strong character, she gets to a planet, proceeds to fuck everyone's shut up and then leaves. She has very few moments of weakness. But then Other M came along and was all about taking Samus' strength away from her and make her scared and vulnerable. It's plain contradictory.

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>>387278759
Dana Moore did nothing wrong.

>>387283067
Yup. Giving team ninja a project with a female character as protag was a mistale

>the baby

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>>387283067
I mean... you're right, but I don't want to get the wrong message across.
Other M made a bad attempt at portraying moments like these without going overboard in a short cinematic story.
It's just that what they came up with was an approach to this sort of thing from the start, so following from the start felt like it was all wrong. Nothing naturally led up to a moment of Samus' struggles.
>pic obviously related

>>387283329
That was all Sakamoto's fault.

>>387283067
>She has very few moments of weakness
Maybe the way you play her. After Crocomire came back to life in Super Metroid I had to keep the cartridge in the freezer for a couple nights.

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Samus has no fucking foresight.

>Kill Metroids without thinking their prey would overpopulate
>Doesn't think Federation might want to clone the last Metroid until it's far too late, and after the first time doesn't think about it before it happens AGAIN in Fusion.
>Doesn't bring up the Deleter to the Federation members before more people die
>Doesn't move out of the fucking way when a giant phazon boss is about to fall on her

If Samus is the best woman in video games simply because she has big titties and a powerful suit, then D.Va is the prettiest girl in Overwatch, and if you haven't noticed, D.Va is UGLY.

>>387283067
>I Have not Played Metroid Prime 2, 3, or Metroid Fusion: The Post

>>387283678
So is all the rest of the females in that game.

I hope Prime 4 has multiplayer. Not a focused multiplayer as a main attraction but, not as messy as Prime 2 multiplayer.
Maybe like Hunters, it's somewhat balanced, some good maps and menus, gameplay is completely borrowed from the single player base game. This would be nice. Just like a little bonus for fans that plan on keeping the game forever and have something extra to go back to. c:

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Barring Other M, she's a cool female character because she's also a good video game character. Women should not have emotions in video games. They shouldn't even be allowed to talk. Of course I think the exact same thing about men, because I don't play a video game for crying and feelings and other tumblr bait. Those are just distractions used by bad game devs to hide bad gameplay. After all, who would complain about gameplay when they're too busy talking about "muh artistic vision"?

tl;dr my image shows it better.

I thought samus killed all the metroids why is the series still called metroid

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>>387284034
>Bayo
>wrong

>>387284034
How do you feel about Faith Connors of Mirror's Edge? I wouldnt be able to guess your thoughts based off of the pic.

>>387284034
>I think the exact same thing about men, because I don't play a video game for crying and feelings
tfw i loved wolfenTNO for this when bj was being a cry baby. But in saying that, I definitely sexualised him while playing because... I mean... fuck he is an attractive man.

>>387284104
Take away her sex appeal and not a single person will claim to like the gameplay. This is fact.

>>387284034
But that does not apply to Sorceress or 2B.

>>387284209
>metal gear rising
>devil may cry

um?

>>387284034
ACfag, go away.

>>387284165
I feel neutral about her, since it IS an EA game.

>>387284253
see>>387284209

Have you ever seen a Nier or Dragon's Crown thread that didn't just become a porn dump?

>>387284282
Both are garbage games as well. Too many people shitposting with overused memes, or posting porn of the female characters. People claim to like the games, but every thread is just porn of Mistral. If you want porn, why are you playing video games?

>>387284034
>Women should not have emotions in video games
Samus clearly had emotions in other games though. Zero Mission, Prime 2 and 3, Fusion, and you could even argue Return of Samus.

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Shiki is my favorite female character.

>>387284445
People have made porn of every video game character ever.

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>>387278909
>now

Samus is tops for sure. Honorable mention to Lara Croft.

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>>387284534
>implying

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>>387278759
Not Samus but her name does start with an "S" so close enough

>>387284449
Anything you could misconstrue there were actions, and we felt emotional as a result. Those aren't really that bad. What i'm talking about is full blown MOM tier crying and breakdowns and hissyfits. Kinda like how zelda broke down into a 5 year old in Breath of the Wild.

>ABLOO ABLOO I'M SO SAD ;_;

All i'm thinking is "get over it you whiny slut. Nobody cares."

>>387284534
But why does the porn have to dominate all discussion?

>>387284669
It dominates discussion on /v/ because most of us are turbo spergs who want a 2D waifu. Go anywhere else and discuss Bayo and see the difference.

>>387284636
You have no idea mate.

>>387284209
becuase that's her fucking character.
take away dante's coolass shit and he's boring too.

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>>387284669
>There are no emotions only actions

Nigga you are so autistic they'd need to create a new word to describe how far deep you land on the spectrum.

>>387283329
Not this meme again. Team Ninja might be shit but Other M's worst offenses were all Sakamoto. He was basically given a million dollars or so to make his fanfiction a reality.

>>387284587
>Honorable mention to Lara Croft.
I both agree and disagree with you for so many reasons it isn't worth getting into, but the main reason I say I agree is, the personality that has been designed for her is.... Within the fictional world of Tomb Raider in it's relevance to our world and societies/cultures, yeah, she is somewhat admirable in terms of respect towards her character.

But without getting into all the why's and followed reasons, she is just dick bait and shit tier reason of existence in games, especially in terms of character appreciation, regarding the fact that she is a woman.

>i realise that this might be real hard to read and I apologise, I'm an autistic loser and it was stressing me out not saying at least something

>>387284775
Prove me wrong, and give me a link to a pic of her porn

>>387284796
We already knew ACfag was a sperg.

>>387283678
>lets Omega fall on top of her
>gets one of the coolest suits in the series

how are you complaning

>>387284993
>sets house of fire and it burns to ashes
>finds lost family hierloom in the rubble

>>387284445
I claim to like the gameplay. And the music. And also W101

>>387284083
Metroid is the Chozo word for 'ultimate warrior' so Samus is actually the titular Metroid.

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>>387284993
I posted >>387285073 and got an even better food analogy

>Eats wild mushrooms
>They taste great and do not cause any medical complications

Basically if a good thing comes out of a stupid decision the stupid decision does not retroactively become smart.

>>387285234
>mfw

>>387285221
>>387284783
>>387284775
>>387284796
So let me get this straight: games like Bayonetta and Dragon's Crown are good according to you, right? But removing the sex appeal from the characters (while not touching the gameplay) totally and completely ruins them forever, according to what I'm hearing here. So how can the games be good if they're entirely reliant on fap fuel?

>>387278759
The best female character is one with very little character and dialogue and the time they tried to give her more everyone hated it?

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>>387281257
>entire hugely popular series with great female characters
>not a single word from grrll power Sarkeesian types

Why? It's not like you see Reimu in a zero suit.

>>387285376
Women are meant to be seen, not heard.

>>387285346
I never said anything about sex appeal lmfao. Some other people in this thread might have.

>>387285346
They are decent games on their own but fap fuel is another layer that makes the experience better.

It's like having the codex's in D44M.

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>>387285234
Samus is Metroid in Chozo language, Chozo technology, genetic fusion, species emotional ties, goals and differences.

>L A Y E R S
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>>387285459
Because it's not mainstream enough, and grrll power types usually avoid weebshit like the plague.

>>387285504
that's retarded, no one ever looked at the codex in nu-doom

>>387285504
If they're decent on their own, then removing the fap fuel shouldn't make them worse. A videogame should not be reliant on non-videogame factors. It's the same garbage as modern david cage games trying to skirt about criticism by hiding behind "muh artistic vision".

>>387285545
So Samus and Metroid have the same meaning?

>>387285468
That's a shame.

>>387285468
>videogame characters are meant to be seen, not heard.

ftfy

>>387285346
Huh? Who said that? I said I like bayo, but if you remove the sex appeal you get mgr, which I also love

>>387286295
The discussion /v/ usually argues otherwise, especially due to the resurgence of the BRAP-posters.

>>387286412
It's called fartposting. Get it right.

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>>387278909

Reminds me of the Transsexual Transformer for some reason, don't even get me started on the Homosexual Transformer.

>>387286412
Because /v/ is retarded.

>>387286517
>Robots with genders

>>387286517
This isn't real, right?
Right?

>>387278759

Tetra from Wind Waker. Because she's capable like Samus, but feisty and cute

>>387286517
I hope to God this is not real.

>>387286758
you mean shes a cunt and cute

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>>387286650

It's very real.

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>>387285751
my bad, i didn't mean the word Samus, that's just her name. I meant the character Samus is the Chozo word that describes Samus, 'Metroid' (is the describing word) that the Chozo engineered her to be in order to control the Metroids which the Chozo also helped engineer/alter to control Parasite X, only named X because the Metroid already had the name, which the X parasite had then altered Samus, the Chozo's created 'Metroid' once Samus had eradicated in Metroid II and been altered due to the Metroid DNA infused in Samus in Metroid III (Super).
SO IN A WAY, Metroid is a story about Metroids existance being controlled by a race of ancient beings because they prophesied a form of Metroid (in their terms) destroying all life but the Metroid was then altered to create a new Metroid that went on a mission to destroy the Metroids which led to a Metroid being mothered by a Metroid and the ultimate resulting fusion of Metroids which led to a Metroids return due to parasitical behaviour of feeding on the Metroids but replacing a typical Metroid with a new Metroid. This series of events led to cloning and genetic engineering of Metroids which resulted in Metroids recreating themselves as Metroids and one Metroid recreating itself as a Metroid-Metroid-Metroid ultra beast that sacrificed itself to destroy a Metroid in which the other Metroid (Samus) fused itself with, creating the start of a new breed and alteration of Metroid, destroying the last Metroid.

This is why Metroid Dread would have been an amazing development. The Metroid-Metroid-Metroid-Metroid being the last Metroid, but the different forms of Metroids' DNA is a hazard, as seen in Metroid IV (Fusion). Not only is Samus now an enemy of the GF but they have their own technology to create Metroids and other weapons to destroy the MMMM.
Samus could become this beast or any other endless possibilities that we the player could experience but Nintendo doesn't want to make it.

>Inb4 autism the post

>>387286935
I hope you're being facetious in the sense "it's real" as in it exists, and not "it's real" as in it's an official licensed comic.

>>387286517
>>387286935
Reminder that Beast Wars is one of the only good pieces of Transformers media

>>387279213
>isnt afraid of anything
she literally got ptsd fighting riddley and lost the ability to control her suit in that one game.

>>387287104
>Chozo engineered samus to control the X parasite

proof?

>>387287339
>he considers Other M canon

>>387287104
With Metroid Samus Returns with Samus collecting Metroid DNA to progress and the Fusion Suit being extra, it seems like it's a possibility that at the end of Fusion, Samus could still have strands of Metroid DNA in her. I hope that it's true, it would be a shame to have her have Metroid DNA for one game instead of making it permanent, plus since Samus Returns is supposed to expand on Samus relationship with the Metroid Hatchling it would be disappointing if Metroid 5 did away with the only connection Samus have left with the Metroid Hatchling.

>>387288020
just give me a bit.. I know what I've read it in, it's just the issue of finding the exact series/issue/page/etc.

>>387287339
>>387288380
Metroid Prime 3 and Zero Mission show her being apprehensive about fighting Ridley.

Also

>It's bad/I don't like it, therefore, it is not canon

How much money have you *won* gambling because it's impossible for you to *lose*? Also, name the last five presidents of the USA.

>>387288020
http://metroid-database.com/manga/?vid=11&cid=38#manga_top

Page 6 of the translation.

I love this series and it's why I fell in love with Metroid when I first got broadband and discovered the existence of video game forums as a kid.

>>387288876
That says she had a DNA transfusion, nothing about the X Parasite

>>387288020
>>387288876
Same material but this is the original translation and has more links to the correct stuff.
http://metroid-database.com/manga/?vid=19&cid=56#manga_top

I love MDB :D

>>387288642
>Metroid Prime 3 and Zero Mission show her being apprehensive about fighting Ridley.
But she still fought and murdered him now didn't she?

>>387289073
ugh fuck. alright let me look for more.
From what I remember it was more of a series long unveiling of the X but I will see if there is literally anything that specifically says 'samus is for kill x'

>>387289235
ACKSHULLAY the only time she killed Ridley was in Super Metroid, and maybe Fusion.

>>387289392
I know that already, but still.

>>387289546
Still what? In every game Ridley appears even Brawl, Samus fills him with beam energy and missiles.

>>387289768
She never has a complete meltdown like she did in Other M.

>>387289838
I'd say that's probably because of shocked she is to see him supposedly survive Zebes' detonation, not knowing it's a clone.

The funny part is that it takes Anthony's supposed death to snap her out of it. Like fixing a broken leg with a sledgehammer!

>>387289073
>>387289338
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/X_Parasite

This is the closest thing I can find summarizing so I am guessing that I made head cannon as a kid by connecting the dots in my own retarded way.
The Chozo knew of the X long before the events of the first issue with Samus as a kid, they engineered the Metroid's to destroy the X. With all of this knowledge (and the technology to do so correctly), years later genetically altered Samus so that she could survive and enhance herself as a being on the planet which was also home to the X and the Metroid.

Now, concerning the exact statement "Chozo engineered samus to control the X parasite", the Metroid didn't completely clear the X as they were designed to live as a biogenetic life-form that would live from preying off of the X, then die out due to starvation.

But hopefully I don't need to explain the entire plot of every single Metroid game and their relevance to the history of the fiction, because I really don't want to bother explaining how both the X and Metroid survived and spread through the galaxy (nor do I have every answer, so it isn't worth it).

>>387290463
>I really don't want to bother explaining how both the X and Metroid survived and spread through the galaxy (nor do I have every answer, so it isn't worth it).

Space pirates

>>387290574
Thank you. My autistic brain makes it hard to explain things so clearly like that, not to say I blame my autism for such as an excuse of my behaviour and tellings. I just think that at times, it is a relevant note to mention.

>>387290463
Not them but I saw it as the Chozo made two ultimate warriors one to kill the X (Metroid) and one to kill the Metroid (Samus). I believe that the Chozo planned to make Samus the true ultimate warrior by having her have Human/Chozo/Metroid DNA that way she would be able to become the protector of the galaxy.

>>387291071
>I believe that the Chozo planned to make Samus the true ultimate warrior by having her have Human/Chozo/Metroid DNA
That's the way I look at it too, it's just that all the details can make it seem more of a fuzzy result. But the crossing of DNA is why I want Dread damn it.
Because now it's not just those 3, it's also X DNA that has fused with her DNA without being defeated by the Metroid DNA due to the SA-X.

I WANT IT NINTENDO!

>>387291574
>DNA can destroy each other on a molecular level if not for the SA-X

Now that's just stupid. The fact that the Metroid DNA saved Samus from the X parasite is stupid.

>>387291574
Actually, the Metroid DNA completely destroys the X DNA taking what's left, like Samus's upgrades and Samus's Chozo DNA. Also, don't worry about Dread, we'll be getting it soon, the time for its release is coming.

>>387291696
Wrong wording, she was enhanced due to the SA-X (then defeats boss clone that she couldn't defeat beforehand).
I personally don't know if Metroid DNA is the reason X didn't over take or what ever but I mean... with the Metroid DNA, X parasite created SA-X, so I mean... I guess in a way we got both results as an in-game result. Both Samus and SA-X.
It's the ending that Samus fused with SA-X that interests me.

>>387291782
>the Metroid DNA completely destroys the X DNA taking what's left
then how does SA-X exist? What's the point of the Fusion suit and what happens after Fusion? I feel like my brain has just removed a lot of solid information.

>>387292094
>how does SA-X exist

Because it has no Metroid DNA in it during the course of the game?

>>387292197
>Super Metroid never happened

what? Doesn't X parasite get to Samus after Metroid 3, in which she fuses with the Super Metroid and defeats Mother Brain?

>>387292370
She didnt have the Metroid DNA at that point yet. It was after she was infected.

>>387292094
The SA-X was created from the surgically removed portions of the Legendary Power Suit that was sent to the BSL Station at the beginning of the game. At the end of the game when Samus absorbed the SA-X her Metroid cells killed the X inside her and took her Chozo DNA along with Samus's Ice Beam upgrade. With this, Samus's suit resembled the Power Suit's Varia Suit while having the Ice Beam upgrade. Whether or not this meant that she no longer has Metroid DNA or a Fusion between her Chozo and Metroid DNA is unknown for now. Sakamoto stated that she reconstituted her DNA, which means to build up again from parts, reconstruct. He never outright states that she lost the Metroid DNA just rebuilt her DNA structure.

>>387292470
So is the series of events like this;
>Metroid 2
>encounters X
>X makes SA-X
>Samus gets involved with Metroid 3
>Samus + Super Metroid DNA
>Fusion begins
>Samus encounters X parasite on large scale
>Fusion suit
>SA-X, pre-existing creates havoc
>Samus discovers SA-X
>rest of Fusion game
>SA-X is kill at boss fight
>Samus (now with Super Metroid DNA) fuses with SA-X's X parasite

Is this right? Can you show me some stuff because I feel like my brain is having a hard time or I've been interpreting everything wrong all this time.

>>387284445
I'm surprised, I actually haven't seen any porn of Mistral in any thread and I don't even see her as attractive, so I didn't even thought about it until you brought it up.

I really like Rising, with it's gameplay (especially Sam's, good lord, is he fun to play as) and edgy music, but I've never seen the kind of thread you've described. When did you last see that?

>>387292598
OH so the SA-X was due to the surgery? So in other words, if that never happened the result would have either been Metroid DNA kills X or the DNA restructure that we got at the end of the game anyway, yes/no/sorta?

>>387285346
Does Bayonetta actually have sex appeal, though? Everything is so over the top it felt like it was only being played for laughs.

>>387292773
Why are you bringing in Return of Samus? We are far past that.

Basically, starting with Metroid 2...

>Samus kills all Metroids but one
>Goes through Super Metroid to retreive last one when stolen from pirates
>Other M happens (Deal with it)
>X Parasite cleaning mission on SR 3-88
>Samus becomes infected
>Parts removed from suit, sent to station
>Injected with Metroid DNA, somehow this makes her live because fuck macrobiology
>Suit pieces become sentient thanks to X parasite
>SA-X walks around all creepy
>Fights Samus near end of game
>Becomes freinds with samus at the end for some reason
>Ship crashes into SR3-88, destroying it
>Samus is now a renegade, with her age being god knows how high and being filled with god knows how many different forms of DNA.

>>387293125
oh. Yeah I was just remembering things incorrectly for Fusion. Thank you.

>>387292938
OH so the SA-X was due to the surgery?
Sorta, at the beginning of the game Samus was just a Human/Chozo hybrid, she had no Metroid DNA, when she was infected, the GF doctors couldn't remove the suit so they had to surgically remove the infected parts. They then sent those to the BSL Station to be studied while they used strains of Metroid DNA from the Baby to kill the X in Samus.

>So in other words, if that never happened the result would have either been Metroid DNA kills X or the DNA restructure that we got at the end of the game anyway?
Technically if Samus didn't receive the Metroid DNA at the beginning of the game she would have died and the SA-X would have still been created.

>>387284527
but that's not her...

>>387293245
>OH so the SA-X was due to the surgery?
I forgot to green text.

>>387293240
Yeah, the Baby dying above Samus didn't result in a DNA transfusion. Although it did give her hyper beam somehow.

Metroid is full of plotholes.

>>387293336
>the Baby dying above Samus didn't result in a DNA transfusion. Although it did give her hyper beam somehow
I just typed a confusing response concerning this but came to the conclusion that it is likely the energy beam from when she shoots coming in contact with the DNA of the Super Metroid.
Regarding her regeneration, I assume it is because her power suit is technically one of her abilities, provided by the Chozo. Which makes sense as to why the suit removal requires full surgery in Fusion.

So much clarity has come to me from this thread.

>>387293282
i know that dude. but that's the one you see most though out the game. so that's the pic i went with.

>>387293676
>confusing response
where? Another thread? I dont see it here

>energy beam from when she shoots coming in contact with the DNA of the Super Metroid.
But she has it even on the surface of Zebes right before the planet blows up, when she's far away from where the Metroid's DNA was.

>suit removal requires surgery
Yeah it's been my understanding for forever that her suit is physically bound to her nervous system instead of being a standard suit you can just climb out of, hence why she dies if it it gets forcefully removed from her from enough damage. Those surgeons must have been real professionals.

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>>387293948
>where?
I was typing it but deleted it because you summed it up

>even on the surface of Zebes
Yeah, her suit becomes covered and infused but I suppose Samus herself doesn't. This is what leads to Other M intro when the Doctors and who ever else from the GF say they 'cleaned her suit'.
Maybe we are supposed to speculate that she was infused (resulting in the regeneration against MB) but the Dr.'s had worked against that for whatever reason. We already speculate that the GF conspire to do some pretty fucked up shit with the GF and X so I guess it's not so crazy to assume that this was part of some conspiracy work too.

>Those surgeons must have been real professionals.
It's the future or something I guess, we can pretend they have the tools for something so amazing :p

>>387294625
>with the GF and X
I meant the Metroid and X, my mistake.

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>>387294625
>>387294726
Well I just want to say this thread is the first time in a long time that a Metroid thread has not been a complete pile of shit.

Your English may not be perfect, but the fact we had a civilized discussion about our confusion regarding plot points give me hope for this fanbase.

Pic related, it's what most Metroid threads devolve into.

>>387283678
I'm gonna bite anyway just to say no one on this planet would have to fear anything if you have an invulnerable shield like that game breaking bitch