Well, I didn't think it possible, not for 20 years long

>>387277030
Sonic 3 and cuckles was better

>>387278503
>CD levels and all new better levels to replace half of the mediocre shit in 3K

Nah. Mania is leagues better, and it even ahs the best levels in 3K.

Classicucks eat this mediocre game up like its water in the desert.

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>>387278948
Shouldn't you be getting your OC Sanic character designed and ready to be created when Forces is released Moderncuck?

>>387277810
Now.

Image if the did 12 zones

ALL

FUCKING.

ORIGINAL


Like holy hell, the few new shit made me have to get extra tissues. Even the reworked shit was god damn glorious. I can confidently tell people that "lava reef was a good level". Remixed Ost felt like I'm listen to audio equivalent of ambrosia l. Huuuuuuuuugggggggh.

If they managed to do 12 unique zones for a sequel to mania to the exact level of quality, if not BEYOND, I would legit hand over my soul for that game. I'd kill a man.

>>387279242
>12 unique zones
Did you even play the game? All the "flashback" zones are remade into entirely new zones. They play nothing like the originals. The only thing they share is the same concept. which if you're seriously griping about them re-using an idea, you're nitpicking over nothing.

>>387278503
3K is good, but only half the levels are remembered.
>Angel island
>Hydrocity
>Ice cap
>Launch base
>Sky Sanctuary
>Death egg

Everything else was always awful and people never mention it. Hell mania actually made LAVA REEF zone decent, thats a feat in of itself.

>>387279348
Nigger, I love the shit about what we got in mania. I ain't nit picking for nothing, green hill will always be a fucking jam.

I'm just saying

12 unique zones would be mind blowing, it would make it the undisputed greatest sequel to its predecessors.

>>387279242
i don't think it even needed all new zones. the reworked classics are so well done they feel unique enough as it is. i used to strongly dislike chemical plant & flying battery yet somehow they made those zones utterly brilliant in mania

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>>387279242
You are entitled nerd and a reason sonic fandom is the worst! Be glad they even made the game! You should be ashamed of yourself!

>>387278869
>CD levels
Proof enough that Mania is worse. The worst level in 3K was Carnival Night and it was still decent. Mania has a few stinkers, especially towards the end.

>>387280348
i think the sonic fandom had a right to have a proper sonic game AFTER 20 FUCKING YEARS of it being made to be the biggest autistism/furfag/deviantart baiting trash thanks to it chasing after marios shadow. .

Think of my suggestion less as feeling entitled and more of a hopeful afterthought about the future of sonic. I feel pretty grateful for what I have in mania so go ahead and laugh at my hope for sonic.

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>Stardust speedway
>Expect the obvious metal sonic race
>Eh, they did this in generations already.
>Metal attaches to the reactors
>Starts pumping out silver sonics
>Have to ricochet them into his reactor
>Even after I think its over, the music then kicks into overdrive and you get an even better metal sonic race.

This game just keeps on giving.

>>387280482
Sorry anon, I'm all out of contrarian merit badges. You'll have to get yours after the thread.

>>387279241
>Implying Forces isn't going to be great.
I'm excited for both. Mania is an amazing take on the classic era and forces looks as campy and stupid as the original adventure games. Get bent purist.

>>387279348
1. Green hill - 1
2. Chemical Plant - 2
3. Studiopolis - M
4. Flying Battery - K
5. Press Garden - M
6. Stardust Speedway - CD
7. Hydrocity - 3
8. Mirage Saloon - M
9. Oil Ocean - 2
10. Lava Reef - K
11. Metalic Madness - CD
12. Titanic Monarch - M

Still a good chunk of content senpai

Thats not hard when half of sonic 3s levels are trash. Although, the original hydrocity was better

Yeah, its pretty damn great.

And man, I forgot how hard Sonic levels can be before you memorize them.

>half of 3K's levels are bad
Where did this meme even come from?

Marble Garden and Sandopolis Act 2. That's it, those are the meh levels. Not even bad, just meh. Everything else is great.

>>387282938
You forgot carnival night, launch base (more so for its ugly graphics and shitty music rather than level design), flying battery, the mushroom jungle zone (forgot its name its so shit), and death egg

>>387280482
>>CD levels
I was watching the official Sonic livestream and they said that they completely rebuilt Stardust Speedway from the ground up because of CD's weird level design

>>387283109
>Carnival Night
A fun bumper stage that's better than both Spring Yard and Casino Night before it. People only shit on it because of that dumb Barrel meme.
>Launch Base
Those are poor reasons for hating it.
>Flying Battery
Is a great level, what the fuck is wrong with you?
>Mushroom Hill
What the fuck is wrong with Mushroom Hill? Never heard anyone ever complain about it
>Death Egg
Is a cool final level and the first time Sonic ever had the anti-gravity gimmick which was fucking awesome especially showing that they're still throwing new stuff at you even in the last zone.

Mania's gameplay and level design feels more like 3K than any of the others so I don't know how you can hate one and like the other.

>>387277810
It's creative as hell and I love it. I thought the same levels from previous games was going to be lame but the twists fucking blew my mind.

>>387279242
nah, it wouldn't work, the reason Mania is a GOAT Sonic is because it took all the good stuff from legacy games and touched our fondest memories while adding some new stuff here and there

it wouldn't have the same appeal

>>387283587
You're right, we needed a game like Mania to basically rekindle our passion for Sonic and remind us of all the reasons we loved it in the first place. But now that we've gotten that game, we're ready for Mania 2 with all new zones.

It loses points for the recycled fanservicey retro stages and becoming disjointed as fuck later on.

I guess a full game of original stages is literally impossible for hacks like Sega now.

>>387283953
I'm starving for a sequel, hope they don't fuck up with 2D Sonics again

hell, it even made me optimistic about Forces

>>387280757
>chasing after marios shadow. .
Which he still will be this year, for the record.

Seriously, is there really anyone deluding themselves into think Sonic Mania will be better than Mario Odysey?

>>387283445
>Carnival night
Was okay but Studiopolis kicked it to the curb. Not only was Studiopolis cool as hell, but it was actually enjoyable even with all the bumping.
>Launch Base
Agreed. Launch base is awesome but its pretty barren compared to other "blast off" ones in the series.
>Flying Battery
Is not a great level. Flying battery has always been annoying and a run killer due to easily glitched grip mechanics and bottomless pits. Mania's version actually saved FBZ and made it amazing.
>Mushroom Hill
Agree with the other guy. Its a boring level. nothing bad persay but nothing amazing either and I hate doing it everytime I boot up K
>Death Egg
Inferior to S1 and S2 final levels in every way. Death egg is only saved by the true final boss, which isnt even part of the level without K

Studiopolis Zone is so visually stunning. Fun bosses too.

>>387284174
>Comparing a 2D running platformer to an open 3D platformer
Buzz off nintenbro. People can like both games without the console wars.

>>387284174
No but sonic Forces will be.

>>387277810
>Mania is good meme
Mania is the Force Awakens of Sonic games. It's so flaccid and relies too much on nostalgia-pandering to actually be considered intellectually stimulating.

Sega has finally become self aware since generations and understands its fanbase now. They divided into two divisions to appease both audiences rather than letting purists fight each other.

Mania:
>Appeals to the older crowd who grew up with the classics
>2D gameplay with reimagined concepts and enhanced level design but still restrictive enough to capture the original feel.
>Sonic tails and knuckles with classic cameos.

Forces:
>Made to appeal to the younger generation who grew/are growing up with campy/snarky modern sonic and crew
>3D gameplay refined forward with new experimental gameplay styles to bring fresh ideas to the franchise
>Give the ability to make their own character to join sonics adventures, among other modern-era friends

Its genius. And frankly as long as sega keeps doing this I'm fine with modernfags getting whatever the hell they want.

>>387284604
You appear to be on the wrong board /tv/

>>387284604
>It's so flaccid and relies too much on nostalgia-pandering to actually be considered intellectually stimulating
I suggest you to play and complete the game before vomiting shit like that, but you're free to shitpost anyway

>>387284604
>Mania is the Force Awakens of Sonic games
Generations was already the FSA. Mania is Rogue One, A project not made by the original writer, yet just as good and awe inspiring as the originals.

>>387277810
>>387281436
I honestly think that all sonic games are pretty bad. There's nothing good about sonic games at all. The original games were very simple and I'm not even sure what to call them. Side Scrollers? That's really it. They sure as hell aren't platformers. The only enjoyable thing in the entire series was the Chao Gardens and Rogue. There's no appeal to sonic. He has nothing desirable. The only logical conclusion is that he does indeed attract autists.

You can't talk about Sonic without drawing comparisons to Mario, so I'll just give some examples why Mario is better. His character is more appealing. He's a cheerful Italian, a lovable design that can attract an audience wider than Sonic. He's human, as well. Contrary to popular misconception, animal like characters are meant to appeal to children only, not everyone. Humans are easier to idolize and relate with, so everyone can like Mario. His games are actual platformers with proper jumping controls, variety and abilities, power ups, hidden secrets and a meaningful coin system that keeps players going. Sonic has his ring system which loosely acts the same, giving extra lives, as well as acts as a health system, but it encourages poor play. Abusing the invincibility from getting hit to pass a frustrating area is one problem, which gives no real sense of danger because rings can be picked back up right after getting hit anyways for further abusing.
With Mario, you get hit with a power up on and it's gone. One more hit and you die. I feel like bottomless pit are used more in Mario games as well which sonic sorely lacks. Those keep the player on their guard.

There's just so much that sonic does badly or just doesn't have at all compared to every one of its rival franchises.


TL;DR - Sonic really is for autistic people.

>>387284925
Crossposting threads is against the rules sir.

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The only parts I found weaker were Press Garden Act 1 (only Act 1) and Titanic Monarch, and I still enjoyed those a lot. Everything else is pure gold.

This is a Sonic game with no low points, just slightly-below-perfection points. Maybe I'm riding a nostalgia high, but I feel this is a glorious game. I want to invent a time machine just to show it off to 12-year-old me. He'd lose his goddamn mind.

>>387284925
>My shitty thread isnt getting any attention, so let me just hijack someone elses so i cant get my lulz

Take your (you) and leave.

>>387279241
I Don't even give a shit about Forces

>>387284925
>Rogue

Thanks i'm gonna steal your pasta for the future.

How many levels are there?

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>>387284879
>A project not made by the original writer, yet just as good and awe inspiring as the originals.
Ironic counter-shitposting is still shitposting.

>>387285180
12 zones, 2 acts each so 24.

1. Green hill - 1
2. Chemical Plant - 2
3. Studiopolis - M
4. Flying Battery - K
5. Press Garden - M
6. Stardust Speedway - CD
7. Hydrocity - 3
8. Mirage Saloon - M
9. Oil Ocean - 2
10. Lava Reef - K
11. Metalic Madness - CD
12. Titanic Monarch - M

>>387285180
12, I think.

Why is Titanic so long...

>>387285235
>I don't like your opinion so its wrong
If you're going to act like a child I'll treat you like one.

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fucking plebs get on my level

>>387285084
It wasn't my thread. I just saw it and wanted to put my two cents in, looking for someone to tell me why I'm wrong about my post, since this game gets so much praise, I thought it'd spark a meaningful debate.

>>387285304
its not? Its like 2 minutes long once you get the hang of the orbs.

>>387280997
Forces also looks like it'll be all the shitty parts of the Adventure games.
Sonic Team hasn't learned anything

>>387285308
Rogue One is shit and so is Mania, fuck off classic-baby.

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How could the game do everything so right, only to collapse at the final mark?
That Super Sonic battle was extremely disappointing

>>387285324
Leak?

>>387285347
>I thought i'd spark a meaningful debate by throwing a one sided conversation with no questions or rebuttal out in the middle of a biased thread with no room for discussion.

Please take a debate class.

OMFG somebody release the damn torrent already

>>387285470
yep

>>387285528
Are you okay?

>>387285423
I'm sure you think so.

>>387278869
>half of the mediocre shit in 3K
CDcuck detected
CD is the wost of the classic games deal with you nigger
3K>1>2>CD

whats the point of the S3 special stages? I get the ufo ones get you chaos emeralds. but whats with the S3 ones?

>>387285496
So basically, my post is 100% accurate? I don't understand.

>>387279532
3K isn't good, 3K is the best game ever made
Anybody who doesn't like Marble Garden and Carnival Night(like you) is a faggot

>>387285617
>Literally this mad and bad at basic platforming

I'm laughing. get back to training kiddo.

>>387285469
>Titanic Monarch sucks (Elevator fight was cool though)
>Final boss is just a slightly less shitty version of CD's final Boss
>No epic Super Fight. You just fly into two robots with slippery as fuck controls and hope yo don't die
>Ending is 10 seconds long ends on a big ass cliffhanger which I'm not even going to bother with because it involves playing Forces

>>387285680
>Giant stone yoyo the stage is good
Glad you're not an expert in sensing taste as you clearly have none.

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>>387285706
Don't remind me

>>387282938
Marble Garden is the best zone in the series

>>387283109
Carnival Night and Launch Base are godtier you nigger. Launch Base looks stunning graphically especially with the Death Egg in the background. What the fuck are you on about you uncultured nigger?

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Got it on Switch. Beat it earlier today as Sonic & Tails. Doing another file as Knuckles. Just got to Oil Ocean.

Seriously... This really might be the best Sonic game ever. 23 years in the making. I can't believe how good it is. It's surpassed my already high expectations.

>>387283109
>Shitty music
Holy fuck I will come to your house and stab you in the throat you piece of shit.

All of those zones are godtier too.

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>>387285793
>>387285680

>Mania divided the franchise even further creating a new type of sonicfaggot - The Sonic3K purist.

Mother of god.

>>387284179
Studiopolis looks like utter shit compared to Carnival Night tbqh. The level design in act 1 especially looks pleb-tier like Sonic 2.

>>387285942
>Literally streets of rage
>Pleb tier

Shows over. We have a genesis pretender who played his classic sonics on his PC emulator. Nothing to see here folks. 2/10 for the effort.

>>387285324
When? Where? Post link

>>387286024
its an edit. look at the comments dingbat

>>387285692
Sonic 1's and 3K's platforming shits all over CD's

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I have had 2 game crashing glitches already, the old sonic games I played to death and never had a single glitch.
I had an instance in flying battery act 2 where I was hovering, went through a secret area, destroyed a boz then it froze with a constant annoying sound glitch, sonic still in the air and timer still going. I had to press restart.

Then I had a glitch on press garden act 2 final boss. The boss was right by the animal capsule, when i got close to hit him he froze me, I landed on the capsule, act was over, score came up. i didn't actually kill him though, then I went flying to the right frozen while robotnik was showing his plans for silver sonic and eggstation but i was frozen and his animation just looped.
I had to hard reset. When I did and carried on the save I was in stardust speedway act 1.
Very disheartening.

I am enjoying it, but have quit at hydro city will finish tomorrow.

Blue shpere bonus zones are insanely hard compared to the older games and there are shit loads of them, plus they don't seem to repeat like they did so getting used to them will be quite tough, unless there is a mini game mode where we can play them.

>>387285706
>Ending is 10 seconds long ends on a big ass cliffhanger
did you get all the chaos emeralds?

Why were these stupid fucking Japanese people so dense to not see it?

Years of mediocrity from DIMPS could have been avoided.

>>387279532
The only actual bad stage in S3&K is Marble Garden, and maybe that barrel thing from Carnival Night also could have been done better.

>>387285764
Marble Garden has
>Speed
>really good exploration/tons of secrets
>great platforming
>is huge
>great gimmick with the spinning top thing
>great obstacles
>good subtle art-style that isn't too in your face colorful that patricians can appreciate
>chill funky music
It's literally the perfect zone

>>387286198
>DIMPS
Mania has a lot of advance mechanics without the bottomless pit level design

>>387286016
I said the level design not the art-style you dumbass.

>>387286373

It's all in the physics, silly.

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>>387286198
Iizuka loves his battle shonen autism. He will now terminate Mania Team after this game since this game is a success and will make Sonic Team look bad.

>>387286523
What if he merges sonic team and mania team?

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>>387278948

>>387286354
>Speed
You seem to conviniently leaving out all the spike traps and jumps that break your speed constantly. You almost never go full speed in MG because so much shit (like the Spindash wheels) Force you to stop involuntarily.
>Really good exploration
Subjective. And nothing worth exploring for other than the special zone ring which is on the main route to begin with.
>is huge
Is not.
>Great gimmick with spinning top thing
Horrible gimmick that relies on slowing your momentum just to control a badly coded top over bottomless pits and spikes.
>Great obstacles
Yes, because arrow spitting statues are totally god tier obstacles.
>Good subtle art style
Oversaturated green and brown that makes Green hill zone look good
>Chil funky music
Your only logical claim, and thats simply due to all S3 music being god tier.

Now all we have to do is nuke the shit out of forces even if it was decent. Then Sega will get the message that they will never make a good Sonic game and hand the series over to Taxman.

Mania 2.
Mania 3
Mania 3 and Knuckles

This could be that timeline.

>>387286682
two 10/10 games are better than four 8/10 ones

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>>387286573
He won't. MANIA TEAMUUUUUU WENT TOO FRAAAAAAR!!!

NO GAIJIN PIGS IN HOLY NIPPONESE SONIKKU TEAMUU!

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Add mania to the top.

>>387287073
>not making a dumpster fire tier and putting 06 on that.
fuck 06 so god damn much, i remember buying that game new thinking it was gonna be adventure 3 and then it came out as it did, fuck.

>>387287073
why is sonic spinball not in the okay games section, it's fun.

>>387287073
good taste I love advance 1 and 2

People with Sonic Mania and know how to access the secret level select screen, does anything happen if you input 07, 22, 16 in the sound test?

>>387287196

That game is literally impossible.

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>>387286718
>You seem to conviniently leaving out all the spike traps and jumps that break your speed constantly.
Git gud you fucking noob
>nothing worth exploring
Bullshit. People still find new secrets in this zone after 20 fucking years.
>horrible gimmick
No it's a great fucking gimmick. It's for the most part optional(except when you need to break those walls but it's not a big deal).
>Oversatured green bla bla bla
Nah there's more greys in Marble Garden than green if anything. Nice mountains and nice Aztec-style palaces in the background. Nice small fruit-trees in the foreground, nice underground-ish/indoorsy parts etc.

It takes an artistic eye to appreciate it since it has a lot of subtlety...something that a zone like Press Garden completely lacks with it's over-the-top garish color palettes.

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>>387287073
fixed

>>387287391
you know theres only 4 levels in it, its doable you god damn casual.
git fucking gud.

>>387277810
>shitty bonus stage.

NOPE.

>>387287073

Tail's Adventure is a legitimately good game.

Sonic 3D and Spinball deserve Okay status.

>>387287475
>Hating the UFO
Are you kidding, its the most fun bonus stage we've ever had. Miles above the fucking half pipe and blue sphere gathering.

>>387287391
>literally impossible.
well 10 year old me says overwise, it wasn't hard.
Irony that it took me months to kill sonic 2's final boss.

Also other good games that deserve to be on that list are sonic for master system and sonic chaos.

>>387287475
>Shitty Bonus Stage
Blue Sphere did little wrong

>This fuckin Hydrocity Act 2 boss

I'm going to get to know this zone really well, aren't I.

>>387287073
06 and 4 should be in the "not worth your time" section

>>387287449
subtle

>>387286354

I can't believe people don't like Marble Garden.

Back in the day, I was amazed with how many rings you can collect in that zone. It was massive and worth the trek. I always thought Carnival Night was the low point of the game.

>>387287621
>Act 1
>Get into the eggmobile
>Eggman swimming below
ITS PAYBACK TIME MOTHERFUCKER

>Act 2
>He's in the S3 Hydrocity boss
Well fuck

>>387287667
Everything not listed is in the "Not worth your time section" That includes both of those.

>>387284879
Mania makes Generations look like the prequels.

Egg Garden >>>>>>>> Press Garden

>>387287821
Press garden is legitimately awesome. I wish it had more stamping and newspaper articles though. Its such a neat concept

>>387287673
Most Sonic fans are plebs that like over the top colors being thrown in their face non-stop.

What's wrong with Carnival Night? I think it's up there with Marble Garden personally(you just have to know how make act 2 shorter by taking that shortcut). I'd say Sandopolis and Lava Reef act 1 are the low point of the game but even those are great.

>>387287821
Chao Garden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any Garden

>>387279242
Think of it this way:

>Sonic Mania is announced as a fangame
>Taxman makes 4-5 original levels for his game
>Verde hill, Studiopolis, Mirage Saloon, Press Garden, Titanic Monarch
>Gets like 2 weeks of praise and appeal before forever being forgotten like AM2R

OR

>Taxman works on an official project with real marketing and funding
>Creates his own levels along with classic favorites re-imagined with new designs and bosses
>Gets mass appeal and will forever be imortalized among the big 3.

>>387287860
I don't get it personally. Who build a newspaper factory in a garden?
Don't really like the snow and the cherry blossom petals in act 2 especially

>>387287173
06 is still a tier above shit like lost world or secret rings. I could have fun with 06; broken mess that it was. Secret Rings is nigh unplayable until you upgrade your shit enough; and even then it isn't fun.

>>387288075
Its a play on pressing flowers (freezing) Its a very japanese zone.

>>387288102
>Secret rings is unplayable

Bootleg mario party is very playable.

>>387287860
Press Garden is a cluster fuck of like 5 different level themes.

Studiopolis is just "lol TV" and Mirage Saloon is a proper Desert Zone if you go in as Knuckles.

How do you think sonic's feet smell after running that long all day at high speeds?

>>387288202
>lol TV
Its director and production crew you mook. "TV" does not incapsulate all of cinema based media and broadcasting.

>>387288334
>>387288202
It's essentially night light Hollywood instead of the usual shtick we get from Carnival night and other casino based levels

It's mechanics are pretty god damn cool, especially the radio dish and and wire tubes. And the Ost in 1 is god tier

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>desert level
>muffled yeeeehawww in the distance

>>387288592
If Knuckles pulled out his cowboy hat from the OVA for just that zone it would have been 10/10

>>387288126
Yeah it honestly confuses me since the classic sonic games have always been inspired more by western sensibilities rather than japanese ones.

>>387288661
You have no idea. Nipponese are infamous for their love of wordplay and puns. Look at splatoon as an example.

>>387288334
Why is the sky in Studiopolis purple?
Reminds me of 1987 TMNT intro.

>Webber confirmed the TV buzzing at the end of Studiopolis is a reference to the Sonic Anniversary event audio issues
top kek, where's that autist from yesterday who denied it

>>387287610
>nothing to give but a fucking medal for extras that doesn't aid in the main game.

Fuck you.

>>387288656
only if it caught on fire at some point

>>387288806
Should've been obvious with the sound as well as the date right there on the screen. Question is if the date does anything in debug menu sound test as well. But probably not.

>>387288560
I am sick of people always spouting this bullshit
Spring Yard, Collision Chaos, Casino Night and Carnival Night are all significantly different from each-other

Fuck sake Carnival Night feels more like an abandoned Carnival(especially with all that water in the lower sections and when Knuckles turns off the lights) compared to the lively Casino Night.

>>387287073
I liked Sonic Spinball.

>>387288775
Oh I'm aware. I just don't know why Sonic Mania has such a japanese zone considering the classic sonic games have always been more geared towards western sensibilities.

>>387289015
Something new. It doesnt hurt to break the mold now and then.

>>387289015
Call it being apart of the love letter aesthetics the game is sporting. The west may be where the bulk of the fan base lies but it doesn't mean it can't pay homage to its origins. Besides, it never hurts to throw in some pun lines.

>>387287667
06 is very worth spending time on. It's possibly the source of the greatest drinking game imaginable.

>>387289310
>Take a sip everytime you fall through the floor or wall
>Take a shot everytime you hear "The flames of disaster" or "Iblis trigger"
>Down a full glass anytime Elise is on screen

>>387289015

The team is made up of a bunch of super weebs so I don't know what you expected.

>Mean Bean Machine and Chaotix gets referenced
>No love for 3D Blast

Am I the only person to remember this one?

>>387289497
You've gotta hand it to them though. A subtle cherry blossom forest is better than the fucking super chinese dragon road level freedom planet did.

>>387289287
The thing is it doesn't mesh well with the classic sonic aesthetic.
The japanese thing worked well in Sonic Colors with Aquarium Park but here it feels weird

>>387289497
They're sonic autists not weebs.

>>387289015
Did the fucking ninja egg bot not clue you in?

TJ Davis should have sang the opening

>>387289804
Unleashed did the chinese dragon thing in 2008

>>387289920
A game that takes place in the real world had a chinese level.

In other news, water is wet.

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>>387289310
If nothing else it gave us that completely autistic 3 hour and a half "review" from Clement.

>>387289978
mod him into generations

>>387289396
Falling through walls and floors is actually really not too common. On the 360 version; I had it happen to me once ever, and I 100%'d the entire game.

So, it's usually better to play it safe and just go with the usual plan of: take a drink at each and every loading screen and take a drink at every death; if you make it to the end of one of the three stories, you win.

Just finished Flying Battery Zone. Love this game so far, they did a great job with it. The music is fantastic.

I can't believe how many of the returning Blue Sphere stages I remember every detail of, even after not having played them for over 20 years. Like, even down to which spheres I need to save for last to get a Perfect. It's a bit frightening.

>>387290245
Remembering the blue sphere things is good, because you need a lot of gold metals to unlock everything. Just wait till you get to the new blue sphere levels, they can be a fucking pain.

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Let's gather some data, as a preliminary sample of what you guys think is the best. Where does Mania actually stack up in your opinion?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13716238

I plan on posting this in sthg as well.

>>387288183
>>387288183
And holy shit is it underrated. I fucking love Secret Rings Multi

>>387288183
Secret rings had an okay soundtrack. Unfortunately one of my favorite tracks is the worst one, and I don't know why. The dinosaur one. I think it's the guitar riff.

>>387290461
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13716238
>posting on STHG

Dont. You'll literally get shitposters who'll ruin it because it isnt furry fagdom

>>387288656
>>387288852
anons, please, i was already happy with the game now i want even MORE

>>387290667
>>387290508

Secret rings is an enigma. Its an absolutely terrible game with some of the best music and extras in the entire modern frnachise

>>387290454
Yeah, I've hit a few of the new ones. They've been a mixed bag. Some I immediately got myself lost and fucked up, and some I got a Perfect on my first try.

I've got golds on most of the old ones so far, so I think I'll get through it okay.

>Metal sonic is actually called "Hyper metal sonic" in the boss rush

Literally perfection.

>>387290828
Lots of bad games have cool ideas. Stretch Panic is an objectively terrible game but I love it.

>>387277810
No. No they didn't. It's definitely a damn fine game, but it doesn't match the flow and excellent design of Sonic 3 and Knuckles. Classic levels are a bit lopsided when it comes to attention. Stardust Speedway seems to have been given the most care while others like Flying Battery, Hydrocity, and Chemical Plant feel hardly changed enough. Also, the new levels aren't as good. Studiopolis is an amazing level though, so there's that. Press gardens is weak as fuck and the western level is over much too quickly.

>>387291026
>Chemical plant feels hardly changed at all
Did you even play act 2?

>>387291026
Chemical plant literally is more Whacky Workbench then chemical plant zone

I've never played a Sonic game before other than Riders (which I loved). Where do I start?

>>387291272
>Where do I start
With 1 like everyone else.

>>387291026
I loved what they did with Flying Battery. I really liked how they incorporated some enemies from Sonic 2's Wing Fortress zone in it.

Haven't gotten to Hydrocity yet. I'm really looking forward to it, if only for the music.

>>387291108
Yeah, the bouncing gels are a neat idea and it's cool but that's really the extent of interesting new concepts put into the level. Would have been nice to see in act 1 as well. Not saying it's bad or anything, it just didn't wow me.

>>387290828
Both of the storybook games had a lot of thought put in, you could tell. It's just the on-rail design that kills them, because to be honest, the worlds and detail they came up with were really impressive.

>>387291364
>Would've been nice to see in act 1.

The point of Act 1 in the classic levels are tht they remain untouched. Act 1 is always the original un-edited level. Act 2 is the new one.

>>387291272

1, 2, 3, 3+K, Mania, and that's it.

>>387291351
There's like 50 different versions. Which one?

Porn of Heavy Rider when?

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>excited for stage transitions
>its just them teleporting to each level

Where the fuck are the special stages in Metallic madness act 2? I looked all over the place.

>>387291352
Unfortunatly I think hydrocity zone kind of got shafted. The first act embraces more aspects of a traditional water level and keeps your ass down there for a lot longer and adds an annoying gimmick that isn't fun. And the second act is basically just the same level as it was in Sonic 3. Be interested to hear what everyone else though of it.

>>387291373
The weird thing is its impressive, but a sonic game. Sonic is literally the most unfitting thing about the storybook games. As on rail games with heavy histrocial stories and content they're actually good ideas, but they also wouldn't sell without a marketable icon like sonic.

You could literally have had the exact same game with some arabian kid alladin ripoff and it wouldn't sell nearly as muh as it did with sonic on the cover.

>>387291434
Am I wrong, or are the Act 1's not completely unedited? I think they expanded them, and in some cases incorporated portions of the original game's Act 2. I think they're unedited only in the sense that they don't introduce any new mechanics, like Act 2 does.

>>387291453
>Theres like 50 different versions

What? Just play the genesis one.

>>387291026
FB Act 2 is actually really cool with the rainstorm and outdoor sections.

But I agree. Hydrocity and Lava Reef (Despite the new backgrounds) got really screwed. I've somehow memorised entire portions of the levels without realising and I kept seeing them everywhere.

the game is a 6 at best, and that's being generous.

>>387291697
>said the platform hating virgin as he agressively shoved cheetos into his mouth and scored a headshot on his new Call of Duty game on the PS4 - 4 the players.

>>387289774
You want to know how I know you've never played the Special Stages?

>>387291697
please enlighten us on why exactly you think that

>>387289848
ITs a very odd level I can agree. I can image that aside from it being a bit of homage to the japs, it's also just a bit of a change up for the overall game. It's so damn quirky level that I don't really mind it. In fact it's kinda growing on me. Always did like sakurai trees.

That, or they felt they needed to adhere to the unspoken law of platforming "thou shalt have at least oneth snow themed level.

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>>387277810
CD and Colors already did.

>>387292169
This press Garden was a unique snow level. What else would they have done?
Glacial ice caps? Been done.
Frozen ice factory? Been done
Frigid waters? Been done.
Ice cream land? Been done.

A gentle japanese forest was a great idea.

>>387291697
cool bait thread you posted with this exact quote bro

>>387292281
>CD
Sure.
>Colors
Hell fucking no. Colors has no right to be on any form of pedestal when it literally re-uses its bosses twice over, the only thing colors did right was aquarium park.

>>387287860
Interesting. It was the only zone in the game that I legitimately didn't like. Found the pink and green look to be garish and the whole newspaper factory/garden theme was completely dropped in the second act. Seems like a such a cluster fuck of ideas kind of level.

How does one beat the faggot octopus as Knuckles? I keep getting pulled into the oil and bulleted to death

Like I promised, I'mm giving away an Xbone copy of the game right now. It's a USA code. I don't want to post it until I have proof of Xbox, I'll post it as soon as someone posts a timestamped pic of their bone.

>>387292375
Colors was amazing. Reusing bosses was it's only problem. Better level design than Generations or Unleashed, some of the best music in the series, good mix of 2d and 3d segments, fantastic visual design.

>>387292423
Literally just jump in the oil and keep jumping.

3K was better, but mania is a close 2nd
The final bosses of 3K were miles better than mania's

>>387292381
If I had to make up headcannon for it, it's possible that the flying battery landed at the printing press and you worked your way out of it to get yourself outside into the frozen forest area itself. The transition could've been so much better to clarify it

Do the medals actually do anything or can I stop suffering with these blue sphere stages because holy fuck, I am BAD at them. I hope none of you ever see me play those stages because we'd both be embarrassed.

>>387292469
I do that but I jump into bullets. Also every time I get hit I can't recover my rings, and I'm stuck in a game over loop so I only have 3-4 lives

3K > Mania > CD > 2 > 1

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WosV9Y4l79Y
>IMA SONIC MANIAC

>>387292549
Switch CD and 2 and that's my list

>>387292423
>abuse invincibility after getting hit
>hit boss
>grab ring
>repeat until boss is dead
Pretty much most of the bosses can be killed this way. Crazy to see people actually having trouble with some of them.

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Wish I could play it, but I swore in 1995 that I would never, ever, under any circumstances use monetary means to play another Sonic game.

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OST RIP WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

>>387292549
Mania > CD > 3K > 2 > 1 >>>>>>>>>>>> any 3d sonic game

>>387292675
The rings fall into the oil and are gone forever.

>>387279242
we'll have mods

>>387292692
>Putting CD above mania when its best two levels are in mania, and redesigned to be even better than before.

Unless you really like Colission chaos, whacky workbench and palm tree panic, you're fighting a losing battle.

>>387279532
When did people decide Lava Reef was bad? It really is one of the best parts of 3&K. Sandopolis Act 2, on the other hand, is shit.

>>387292679
I made the same oath, and I kept it until now. But I'm very happy with Mania. Worth it, in my opinion.

I dont get it. What exactly is press garden?

>>387292679

Funny, considering Mania is easily contemporary in style and quality to the games before you swore off of it. It's like if S3&K actually got a worthy sequel.

>>387292549
3K = Mania > 2 > CD > 1

>>387292679
>I swore in 1995

You hated Sonic drift 2 and Tails sky patrol THAT badly?

>>387292827
Flower Press. Like a news press but for flowers.

>>387284174
>thinking 3D sandbox shit will be any better than 2D Classic Sonic

>>387292787
Yeah, really. Lava Reef was great. One of the most interesting bosses in S3&K, if nothing else.

Agreed on Sandopolis also. Fuck the scorpion enemies, and fuck those Act 2 ghosts.

>>387287073
Okay so remove Sonic 1, CD, the GBA games, Sonic Rush Adventure, and we're good.

Actually. I call the tress in frozen Press sakurai but they're actually not. Does anyone recognize this type of tree some kinda of willow?

Also, frozen sonic cube made me burst out when it first happen, this level is fucking awesome. Anyone got a pic of sonic, tails and knuckles frozen

Why can't I get into platformers? I bought this game cause I heard all the praise it was getting, but it's just another platformer to me. They're just not fun, what about these games do you guys enjoy?

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>>387292880
No but that was the 3rd time I rented Sonic 3 and a genesis and was forced to replay the first 4 levels over and over.

The only franchise that fucked my wallet harder than Sonic was Kirby.

Anyone else feel mirage saloon was out of place?
>Studiopolis is Robotnik broadcasting his rule and making himself star in his own films
>Press garden is Robotnik cutting down trees and making newspapers to spread word of his greatness and make the front page of his own paper
>Titanic monarch is his empire that hes worked hard to build and rule with an iron fist
>Mirage saloon is.....?

Never played a sonic game before but I got this and this game is complete bullshit levels of hard. I hit a block and somehow I end up dying.

>>387292827
It's a printing press.

Level designer on the sonic the hedgehog stream said that they based it on the birth of industrialization in Japan, so it brings a cool combination of Classic Japanese Architecture and Industrialized factory.

He also said Iizuka told them they had to make an ice level so they combined the two. While I'm not exactly a fan of Iizuka's meddling I think it was executed well at the very least.

>>387293026
Please don't tell me you had a hard time for Kirby.

>>387293074
Mirage Saloon is a place Eggman built for his hired bounty hunters to hang out.

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has anyone unlocked Super Sonic God Super Sonic yet?

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>>387292939
>when Polygon and Slant slightly ruins your meta score

>>387293003
If you don't like platformers, you're obviously not going to like these. If you do like platformers, it's a top-notch example of one in terms of level design and mechanics.

>>387292426
No xbros?

>>387293003


I fucking hate platformers but love sonic.

>>387293083
>I hit a block and somehow I end up dying.
Chemical Plant with the rotating platforms and a few others can crush you with the slightest amount

>>387290461
Mania literally only has one close competitor unless you really, really liked 2 or CD.

>>387292939
thank god this top tier journo faggot is retiring from writing about games

>>387284302
>>387284367
>>387292890
>Being this delusional.
Sonic has always been Mario's bitch, both critically AND commercially, ever since Sonic debuted. Get over it, Sonicfags.

So was Titanic Monarch act 1 a take on Genocide/Cyber city?

>>387293083
It's pretty normal early-'90s difficulty. Gamers today are wimps.

>>387293074
I don't really care about the specifics of it all but in general, what the hell was up with that zone being so short? Considering it's pretty far into the game, you'd think it'd be longer. Played like a second or third zone in length.

>>387293194
that is what i'm having trouble with in act 2

>>387293141
no, but have you unlocked & Knuckles Mode yet?
you can do a Sonic Classic Heroes team in Mania

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>>387293146
>Slant
>dude just play the 3d sanic games lmao

>>387293148
>Mechanics
But see, that's what I have the biggest problem with. I fall off ceilings, half the time I don't build up speed and just progressively slow down, I'll jump off walls instead of climb them, slide off platforms when I'm holding back and screaming "No, stand still, fuck fuck fuck". It's frustrating to play.
I feel like it's just nostalgia, you guys grew up on 2D platformers and I guess I didn't.

>>387293128
The opposite, I beat it in one day and couldn't return it. My library was SM64, OOT, Goemon and Kirby, I thought games were supposed to last for months by then. I literally had to skip the next 6 years of gaming just to make up for it.

>>387277810
Not until they fix those level transitions.

>>387293112
It actually fits together really well, interesting enough that in the announcement for Mania, we saw Sonic begin drawn before they added any colour. By what you said, Sounds to me like Sonic mania's team must really be devout animators and history buffs.

>>387292928
Rush Adventure is the best flowing sonic game dimps have with much better level design. It's easily better than rush and only thing holding it back being boat sections and grinding, only rush is really overrated just because of it's damn soundtrack because that somehow negates the enemy rooms, sloppy level design and gimmicks in places and shit bosses

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>>387293074
It's that cut Desert Hill Zone from Sonic 2. That's why it's next to Oil Ocean.

>>387292764
>I lack reading comprehension

>>387291697
Not sure why so many people are getting assblasted over this reply.

A 6/10 means the game is above average. I guess they're just retarded and fell for the gaming media's "anything below an 8/10 is bad" meme.

>>387293083
The fuck are you on about? If you play it normally, the damn game saves after you beat each zone. Even if you get your shit pushed in, you only have to play for about 5 minutes to get back to where you were. Plus rings and lives are so plentiful that you really shouldn't be running out of lives to begin with.

>>387293218
Does anybody actually deny this? Doesn't mean that we can't enjoy 2D Sonic for what it is.

>>387293207
I think Sonic 2 is just about as good as 3/K. Not quite there, but very close. My one disappointment about Mania so far: No Metropolis Zone. I would have rather had that than Oil Ocean.

>>387293224
I really got that vibe big-time for Act 1.

>>387293257
I heard if you're playing Sonic and Tails mode, Knuckles just replaces Tails though.

>brother tells me to start playing
>says he game over'ed on chemical plant
>get to act 2 boss
>i never played or saw bean machine, immediately play it like its puyo puyo, guessed correctly and proceed to win first go
I actually laughed out loud when i realized bean machine was the 2nd act boss.

>>387277810
Will a toaster be able to run this?

>>387293280
Do you know how to spin dash? Hold down and repeatedly hit the jump button. When you release you'll have speed.

>>387293153
Just post it

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>>387293458
the switch can so of course

>>387293456
bean machine is puyo puyo

>>387291697
A 6 out of 5 sure.

>>387291602
They are indeed expanded. They combine bits and pieces of the old acts together and then stretch them even further.

>>387293456
>I actually laughed out loud when i realized bean machine was the 2nd act boss.

Same. Very, very cool surprise.

>>387293417
>I didn't say you couldn't.
It looks fun and I've been looking for another 2D platformer to play since Shantae HGH but the morons decided to delay the PC port for two weeks. It's just that Mario's got the fucking biggest hype train since BOTW.

Mating Press Garden

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>>387293218
>critically
huh

>>387293153
It's a 20 dollar game. Even the austically crippled neets can afford it. No one wants your dumb fucking pity code.

>>387293257
I don't get what or where these unlocks are. I've gotten seemingly random unlocks notes, like "and Knuckles mode," "Debug Mode", one about something about Sonic's drop dash, I think? I have no idea where to find them or what's even unlocking them. They aren't under Extras or Options. Am I missing something? I've only made it about 5 Zones in.

>>387293074
The team was flying over the place when they got intercepted by one of Robotnik's goons, crashing into the area

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>>387292594
awww shit

>>387293630
Go to the no save file in regular mania and the Y for Delete changes to Y to Secrets.

>>387293630
You can only use those options under the "no save" slot. When highlighted, you can press x for secrets and it will be listed there.

>>387292467
Fuck the Wisp system and taking controls away that Unleashed set up. It was babby-mode.

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>>387293074

you have to ask?

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Post yfw you saw motherfucking splats

>>387292594
why do nigs keep racially identifying themselves as Knuckles and Piccolo?
what's so black about them?

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Anyone know how early you get all the chaos emeralds?

I can get 5 by the end of chemical plant using Knuckles but I feel like I'm missing ring gates

>>387293762
Knuckles colors and 'hair' are reminiscent of Jamaicans. He's also the more violent, less intelligent pick of the three.

>>387293602
>Paper Mario: Color Splash Metascore - 76
>Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice Metascore - 62
Nice tryyyyyy, guyyyyyyy.

SO what's the story with eggman robot masters? Invest the cop one back at studiopolis and now there's this fucking Ice shinobi who just sent me back to game over

>>387293609
It’s not a pity code, it was just an extra. I thought someone would want it. Sorry...

>>387292426
Do ps4 pls

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>Oil Ocean Act 2 has the Sandopolis Act 2 gimmick

>>387280824
If you're trying for radical 90's imagery, the dude should be wearing an orange t-shirt with a pink overshirt. Or vice-verse.

I'm still playing through it but so far I think the level design's spot on but the bosses are a bit much, like they're too elaborate for this kind of game I suppose. They're clearly having fun with it and there's no shortage of ideas but seriously, who actually likes having 3-5 minute boss fights in a 2D Sonic game? Would anybody complain if a gimmicky reference like the Mean Bean Machine fight were replaced with something more traditional? Did anyone find act 1 boss fights like the ones in Studiopolis, Press Garden and Stardust Speedway to be anything other than tedious? Sorta drags the pacing down and takes away too much focus from the excellent level design if you ask me. Otherwise, this shit's Megaman 9 tier IMO, fantastic throwback to the basics.

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has anyone here gotten the signed iizuka CE? also

who here is playing mania?

I know who's not...

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>In order to unlock all the cool shit like Puyo Puyo and Debug Mode, you have to grind the hell out of blue spheres
Lame as fuck

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When I heard that mean bean was in Chemical Plant I only expected the music

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Was oil ocean in sonic 2 social commentary on the gulf war and America's ongoing military involvement in the mideast?

>playing mania
>get to oil ocean
>holy fuck can't believe they picked this zone
>shit covers the screen for half of act 2
Cool that they added that of all zones but I really hated the gimmick. You couldn't appreciate the new backdrop and all the other cool shit in the level.

>>387294029
>He doesn't know Tre/vr/

Damn it bros! It was supposed to be good, it was supposed to be OUR time!

>>387287449
Replace Riders 1 with Zero Gravity and I'd fully agree.

>>387294038
I really dig the one back in studiopolis. It's you getting chased and fucking them up.

Right now now I'm at Printing press and this fucking greeen ninja is kicking my ass. I know I can bet him, just too impatient and jump him at the wrong time.

>>387294120
Use the levers silly.

>>387294164
ZG was shit compared to riders. Terrible game with one good stage. meteortech sparkworks

>>387294082
>grind
>they literally hand out bonus stages
Unless you are absolutely fucking garbage at blue sphere, you can safely get everything before you even finish the final zone.

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>>387285059
Gamma always reminded me of this...thing.

>>387294120
Look, they only shoehorned the Sandopolis ghost gimmick in a another stage. Gotta at least distribute the full wealth of the horrible experience that is Sandopolis.

>>387294082
I got puyo puyo and debug from one run of the game.

Git fucking gud.

>>387294038
>Would anybody complain if a gimmicky reference like the Mean Bean Machine fight were replaced with something more traditional?

That was hands-down my favorite part of the game so far.

>>387293936
Gimme a minute please

>>387294230
Yeah no shit. You die if you don't. I'm just saying, it forces you to rush through and it sucks when I want to check out the level and explore.

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Once you figure out that only the super combined robo can hurt you and not eggman in the final boss fight, and that if you're not hit you'll gain rings at a slightly faster rate than lose them, the final fight becomes really easy. Because even when you're in trouble you can just farm the rings in the eggman part until sonic has a good amount again.

I feel like in that part they should have just given you rings whenever you hit eggman instead of having them infinitely fly at you from fuck knows where. That way, if you hit eggman fast you can get all your rings back if you got hit once or twice, and it lends a purpose to his push away attack.

Also super modes are once again way too OP for normal gameplay. Everything short of the last couple acts you can basically turn it on mid act and blaze through both the act and boss without any threat at all.

>>387294103
I'm so happy I managed to stay spoiler free on that. It caught me super off guard, and I loved it.
>>387294236
>>387294268
I got about a row of gold medals from 1 playthrough, but I'd much rather just play the game than Blue Spheres.

>>387294259
Ugh, the Sandopolis ghosts are back? Shit. Deleting game now.

>>387294082
Dude. I'm four zones in and have like 12 gold medals. It's not tough.

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>>387294304
>>387293936
Please forgive my sloppy time stamp

>>387294038
that's probably my only gripe with the game, it's cool the first time, but it's gonna hurt replayability in the long run, which is why I think this won't surpass 3&K.

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>>387293849
you thank Color Splash had an inch of good gameplay?
fucking Federation Force was serviceable than it too

>>387294312

Huh, you actually die? It isn't just a lack of visibility? Neat

>>387294230
Neither of them are particularly good. Both have pretty bland track design, but Zero G is automatically better for removing those flow-breaking QTE sections.

>>387294136
>/vr/
Why would I go to that shithole? Literally worse than Portland and Mexico combined.

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>>387294236

>tfw absolutely fucking garbage at blue sphere

>>387293891
Are you asking what their backstory is or are you asking how to beat them?

Their story is basically that Ruby Eggman nabbed at the beginning of the game upgraded them with new powers and probably minds of their own since two of them are listed as female in their bios. The Egg Robos you see around the claw device become the HBH when the ruby does its thing.

What you have to do with Heavy Shinobi is hit it from underneath when it's jumping.

Guys what the fuck I got stuck in the wall at Green Hill

>>387294103
I got spoiled on it being mean bean, but that fucking music caught me by surprise.

But Hydrocity act 1 has to be my favorite boss fight. I fucking HATE that boss fight in 3&K, and being able to torture Eggman by giving him a taste of his own medicine was amazing.

>>387294434
I... didn't hate Color Splash. It was light years better than Sticker Star. And far, far below the other Paper Mario games. But it was decent.

>>387294474
Well not instantly. Your rings start depleting once enough stuff is on the screen for a while.

>>387291560
I though the same; act 2 felt like they either ran out of time it just forgot to "remix" it. It's practically identical to the S3 version save the boss, except you don't even get the hype chase sequence

>>387277810
I'm happy for the (actual spoiler)
Hydrocityfag. Glad your Zone got in the game.

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>>387294531
What is this shit

>>387294562

Interesting. I guess that makes sense, I mean after all, Sonic can't breath underwater. Stands to reason he can't breath in a bunch of toxic smog.

Where the fuck are the special stages in Metallic madness act 2? I looked all over the place.

>>387293218
>thinking 3D sandbox shit will be any better than 2D Classic Sonic
lemme guess, you think Mario Shitshine was any where above the Advance games too

>>387294484
>He says while posting on /v/

>>387294478

Not that anon but I loved the original Riders. Heard the sequels were awful but I put dozens of hours into the first.

>>387294490
The extras really aren't all that great anyways. If you really want some puyo in your life, do yourself a favor and get puyo puyo tetris.

>>387294608
That's a wall. I'd think you'd know that, considering you're getting a very close look at it.

>>387294623

Don't know. I actually did find one in Titanic Monarch though. Was not expecting a giant ring to show up in the final zone.

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>people saying the stages are too long and that they're timing out when they never have before
>play all the classic games a week or two ago
>time out a couple of times on a few stages
>has never been anywhere close to a problem in mania so far

>>387294690
Oh ok thanks I appreciate it

>>387294109
No it was "oil fields are in style now oh that would be a cool idea for a stage"

Honestly I still think 3&K is slightly better than this. Blue Spheres is way too long to be a checkpoint minigame, way too many references with some sections of stages basically being 1:1 remakes of the original, Stages are much longer when even on a blind playthrough of 1-3&K I rarely got timeouts, debug is back but in a gimped form, etc.

>>387294640
Oh, super, can't wait. At least it's not the fucking ghosts.

>Titanic Monarch Act 2 boss

What the shit is this

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>>387292939

>If more of what Sonic is what you want

>>387294706
I timed out in Titanic Monarch act 2, and I came pretty close to it in Stardust speedway 2 because the silver sonics were janky

>>387294668

I don't need puyo in my life. I can just boot up Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection and play Mean Bean Machine there if I'm ever arsed.

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>>387294706

I never once timed out in any of these. In fact I like how long they are. Pic very fucking related.

>>387294706
I timed out in Stardust Act 2, but that's because it took be a solid 4 minutes to find out how to get the Silver Sonics to hit Metal

>>387293790
There is at least 1 emerald per act, the only exception is the final zone I believe. In total I think there's like 25ish before the final zone.
If you're really good you can get it at FBZ

>>387294820

I got close in Titanic Monarch, was on the 9th minute, but then the time stopped counting down when I got the boss.