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So I've been playing this game for 2 days now and holy shit it's hard. Are there bosses harder than this fucker? Cause if there are I think I'm not gonna make it. I died 3 fucking times and lost a lot of nerves.

But it's one of the most beautiful games I've ever played.

Also what SL should I be to play the DLC? I'm currently SL72 after beating Logarius
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There's an NPC harder than any of the main game bosses
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>>387271648
Where is he?
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>mfw I accumulated 40 insight and saw that thing on the building after many hours of playing
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>>387271813
old yharnam roof
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>>387271813
Grand Cathedral after killing Rom
Easy if you use cheese tactics though
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>>387271813
grand cathedral
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>>387271187
Keep playing and you'll find out. If you're having trouble at lvl72 then you're not really doing it right, you have to learn his pattern, Logarius punishes you for getting in close for too long, and punishes you for following him after he dashes back, and punishes you for being too far away. You can also prevent him from going into his second phase if you damage him enough while he's powering up.
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>>387271813
Bloody Crow of Cainhurst is just broken and reads your inputs. He actually instilled a primal terror in me.
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>>387272281
No, you don't understand, I've already beaten him, thanks anyway. I mean, it took me 4 tries.
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>>387271187
Asking what souls boss is hardest is a silly question, people always have trouble with different bosses and always have a different hardest boss.
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R8 my hunter
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>>387272710
Castlevania vibes
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>>387271187
The only one that actually made me mad was the Loran Darkbeast in the chalice dungeons. What an awfully designed boss.

>inb4 hurr durr cant beat it so it must be bad design
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>>387272710
Looks like a tryhard skillfag.
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>>387271187

Around the 70's should be good for the DLC.

Be prepared for the first boss to push your shit in. I found all of the DLC bosses (except Living Failures) to be harder than any of the main game ones.
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The DLC bosses and several chalice bosses are harder. Just keep trying or do some coop. Logarius is pretty weak to parries.
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>>387272431
I love this guy. I immediatly went for a Bloodtinge build after fighting him.
Now i try to pretend that i'm him.
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>>387272802

Camerabeast*
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>>387272431
Every time I fight him I'm reminded of the /v/ creed of "IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR" and repeat it when I die to him. He's overpowered.
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>>387272957
>or do some coop
I've never summoned in Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. Don't want to do it so I can tell people 'I've never summoned'. Plus I don't think it will be much easier with a summon
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I don't even really remember Logarius because I beat him on the first try.
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>>387273141
the crow specifically but also a lot of other shit in the game was pretty guilty of "grind them down without fucking up once or they'll 1-shot you"

which is dumb
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>>387273183
It's actually MUCH easier with a summon. While you're dodging him anon comes up behind for the backstab/visceral.
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>>387272802
I just cheese it with blood cocktails, If any boss deserves cheesing it's that one.
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>>387271187
I'd say you're a bit overleveled.

If you didn't start the DLC you probably should now.
The frist boss of the DLC took me 20 fucking tries at level 50.
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>>387273412
Doesn't defiled amygdala deserve cheesing?
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>>387273580
His last phase does seeing how there's too few openings, but the first 2 phases are pretty simple.
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>>387273580

I did a BT build on my most recent character, half for fight clubs, half so I could just circle around Amy and evelyn her in the fucking head.
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>>387273580
high bloodtinge + evelyn + bone marrow ash = easy street all over the fucker
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>>387272182
lul
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>>387273470
I plan on starting the DLC right before the final fight
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>>387272431
i heard alot about how insane this guy is and i dreaded having to fight him (really wanted BoM), so when i went to the cathedral after rom he was already dead somehow and eileen gave me the badge.
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>>387274228
You shouldn't, there are a lot of cool weapons in it, better to get them the earliest you can.
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>>387271187
Logarius is among the most common bosses I've seen people rage at. I never had too much trouble with him, but my experience with him is usually pretty varied and not that spammy. I've seen other people fight him and he just spams the same two or three moves constantly with just enough variation to throw them off, and they end up dying time and time again even if they do well at the game otherwise.

Meanwhile, I have tons of trouble with Laurence and most people tell me he's easy as fuck... so everyone's different.

In general, I'd say Logarius is in the Top 10 most Rage Inducing bosses in Bloodborne counting DLC but not counting Chalice Dungeons.
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>>387274782
I just scratch my head at Laurence too. I panic and freeze in thinking of how to approach him when he starts shitting lava everywhere.
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>>387274782
Which was logarius. I've beaten the game but don't remember any of this shit.
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>>387275350
The one in cainhurst castle
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>>387275463
I never found cainhurst.
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>>387274782
I actually find Laurence to be far and away the hardest boss in the series, honestly. Everyone goes on about the OoK, who at least for me, was a pushover compared to that flaming fucker.
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>>387271187
Man, Rom gave me more shit than any other boss in that game. I just could not do it, no matter how I tried it. I never really had any other trouble with any other bosses after that though, they all seemed to pale in comparison to Rom although I will admit that Cainhurst cunt warranted a fair few bashes.
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>>387275604
I have trouble with Orphan, but generally I have fun with him and feel like MOST of my deaths are my fault against him.

Laurence, though? It's just chaos. Fire aura, broken hit boxes, WAY too much health, constant aggression... and then he loses half his body and the only part of him that isn't constantly guarded by his arm attacks is constantly surrounded in lava.

Though I still struggle with Lud & Zallen in DS2 and Sister Friede in DS3 at least as much as I do with Laurence. They're pretty much my "Fuck this" trinity.
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>>387272281
>you have to learn his pattern
No fucking shit dude, why do you even bother posting trite crap like this
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>>387272710
knockoff maria/10
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>>387275604
>I actually find Laurence to be far and away the hardest boss in the series
Same here, i found orphan fun and ludwig really cool, but fuck that flaming buffed cocained amelia
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>>387275993
I didn't think Laurence was hard enough given his reputation and him being the only optional DLC boss. He should have been able to heal himself like Amelia does, but while he does it the flame around him grows so hot it rapidly depletes your health just by being near him.

I also think he should get a hotter flame the longer the fight goes on, making his aura do more damage over time from further away, and once he's in his final stage make it so you constantly lose health no matter what just because the room is that hot.
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I'd say Logarius is one of the hardest fights in the game, DLC included.
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>>387276423
Fun fact: Logarius is super vulnerable to the Logarius Wheel. I'm not sure if it's intentional, but it seems to do about 3x damage to him compared to anything else. It actually has reduced damage while buffed, though.

>source
Some guy online told me.
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>>387271187
Backstab when he's charging up after you take down his first form, if you do that he's much easier to stagger during his second. Also, whenever he sticks his sword into the ground, lock onto the sword and shoot it as fast as you can.

He's actually a pretty fun fight if you know his little quirks.
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>>387271813
>>387271187
these fuckers
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>>387276187
Laurence is not especially hard, it just has a fuckton of health does huge damage and has fire all over him which makes the entire fight infuriating and tedious even though you could always go the cheese way with simon's blade. Personally it felt like a lazy boss to me
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>>387276828
Just lure them into a narrow hallway.
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>>387276661
Also, if you let him fully charge after phase 1 he actually gets an aura that makes him immune to bullet parrying.
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>>387271187

>Abhorrent Beast
>Defiled Watchdog of the Old Lords
>Laurence, the First Vicar
>Orphan of Kos
>Ludwig

All are MUCH more difficult than pushover Loghain. Basically DLC and Chalice bosses make the main game bosses look like a joke.
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>>387277703
Abhorrent Beast and Defiled Watchdog really aren't that bad.
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>>387277313
Wait you can knock him out of the charge thingy he does when he goes to phase 2?
Did I make the fight harder for myself then needed?
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>Are there bosses harder than this fucker?

It's possible he'll be the boss you have the most trouble with, but the DLC bosses have a reputation and it's pretty well earned. Wouldn't touch that until at least 85+, but 72 isn't absurd to enter at.
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>>387277787
Yes.
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>>387271187
Recently bought a PS4 and got BB as my first game. Still waiting for my copy to arrive in the mail, anything I should know going into it? Never played a Souls game before btw.
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>>387277928
Completely ignore leveling up your hitpoints. You really don't need them with the rallying system.

Pick the Threaded Cane. It's super fast and has massive reach.
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>>387277852
Well okay than, it wasn't as if it took days to beat him, but it still would have been nice to know that.
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>>387277928
>anything I should know going into it? Never played a Souls game before btw.
Prepare your fucking anus.
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>>387278108
He also will only try to buff once. If you knock him out of it, he just goes into phase two without the buff all together.
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>>387277928

>>387278085 is full of shit, do not pick the threaded cane it's the hardest weapon to learn as a new player. Pick the saw cleaver.
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>>387277928

Stop reading Bloodborne threads. It's one of the best games of the past decade and the less you know going in the more you will enjoy it.
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>>387278085
>Completely ignore leveling up your hitpoints
Don't listen to him having more hitpoints can make tge difference between a boss one shotting you or two shotting you.
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>>387278085
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>>387278185
>He also will only try to buff once.
What was his buff exactly?
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>>387278304
It makes him immune to parrying and prevents him from being stunned/interrupted by melee attacks.
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>>387277928

>>387278085
Completely disregard this, HP is super valuable even with the rally system, particularly for a beginner. Level that and your stamina(you can stop with stamina at 20 or close to it though) up first as the majority of your damage is going to come from
weapon upgrades and gems as opposed to scaling, particularly at the early levels.

Threaded Cane isn't bad, but the most basic and best starting weapon in the game is the Saw Cleaver. It does bonus damage against some enemies and has a moveset with little weaknesses. There's a reason it's the weapon of choice for speed runners.

As far as other stuff, don't spread yourself too thin. Trying to do too many things in these games is always a bad idea, in particular early in the game. Focus on getting your health, stamina, and one offensive stat that scales with your weapon up early. Skill gives you bonus critical damage, as well, so that's worth noting.
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>>387278424
>>387278227
>>387278218
Why are you babying him? Let him make mistakes! Going in with the ideal "new player" strategy won't teach him anything. Might as well tell him to use the Drake Sword in DS1.
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>>387278419
>>387277313
>It makes him immune to parrying
No it doesn't you dumbass.
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>>387277703
>>Abhorrent Beast
The camera was fucking horrendous on that fight. Literally Can't see shit: The boss fight.
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>>387277928
The healing item in the game must be purchased and is not found commonly in the world. It helps after every other boss to spend all your echoes on blood vials to top off your stocks, especially for very hard boss fights.
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>>387278419
>prevents him from being stunned/interrupted by melee attacks
I don't mind the parrying bit, because I can't even consistently parry the yarhnam mob at the first area, but that really would have made the fight go by a lot quicker.
No use crying over spilt milk I gues
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>>387278626
>is not found commonly in the world
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>>387278624
How? He runs straight towards you, isn't very big, and constantly stays in your face. The only way the camera sucks is if you do the "run in circles and throw poison knives" cheesing strategy, and that's because you're not using the camera how it's meant to be used.
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>>387278553
>Might as well tell him to use the Drake Sword in DS1.
What is wrong with that?
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>>387278553
If he asked, he's probably going to look shit up anyway. Might as well correct the shit advice the first guy gave him.

Generally speaking, it is best to go in as blind as possible with these games though.
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>>387278626
>not found commonly in the world
Correct. The weakest, most common enemy of which there are literal hordes of only drop 1-2 of them about 30% of the time. It would take you at least two full trips through the first area of the game to fully stock 20 of them.

>>387278801
Makes the entire first half of the game literally effortless. It's a crutch that teaches the player absolutely nothing except how to not try.
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>>387274782
>>387274872
>>387275604
>>387275863
>laurence
I'm glad I'm not the only one. This is the only fucker in the entire game where I eventually had to put the game down and try it again fresh the next day. The crawling around in lava phase was just a complete nightmare for me. I think I finally just stayed close with the hunter's axe and rallied him to death, and I literally couldn't see my health bar when he finally went down. I basically had to face him in a war of attrition because he was hitting me no matter what I did.
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>>387274231
>was able to skip one of the hardest npcs in the game
da phuc indeed.
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>>387277778

Much worse than anything in the main game.
Abhorrent Beast is a nightmare if you don't cheese him with poison knives. Hyper-aggressive, long combos with small recovery, high damage and HP.

Defiled Watchdog one shots you with like half of his movelist, has BS hitboxes, a mountain of HP, and his OHKO jump attack is one of the most difficult moves to dodge in any Souls game I've played, and I've played them all.
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>>387278740
Are you blind? The area is too small and if you try to go under him you can't see shit. If you lock on into him he covers your entire camera once he closes in. Not to mention his awful hitboxes that hit behind him.

>>387274231
Game tends to bug out. The old woman in the church never died despite going away twice on my game.
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>>387278895
>Makes the entire first half of the game literally effortless. It's a crutch that teaches the player absolutely nothing except how to not try.
I did it and after I finished the game the first time I could do just fine without it when I replayed it later on.
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>>387278896
I always find it so interesting that people have trouble with him.I've only done the DLC three times, but I never had any issue with the fight and it always went by extremely fast for me, to the point where I don't even feel like I know a lot about it. One of them was in a very high NG cycle as well.

Not trying to be smug about it at all, just interested. I think two out of the three times I fought him, I had a weapon with excellent reach. Maybe that's why or something, don't remember taking a ton of damage during the crawl phase.
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I had so much fucking trouble with this cunt and I don't even understand why. Made me probably the most salty I've ever been in a video game.
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>>387279035
Abhorrent Beast is one of my favorite bosses in the series and I've never had any camera problems with him. Maybe it's because I don't try to get underneath him for whatever fucking reason somebody would? I stay just out of his reach directly in front of him, dodge through his attacks towards his side/back, and punish him. The camera never gives any problems.
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>>387278895
>Makes the entire first half of the game literally effortless. It's a crutch that teaches the player absolutely nothing except how to not try.

The Drake Sword isn't THAT good. Dominates the Burg and maybe a bit after it, but a well upgraded weapon with some points invested in scaling beats it out fairly quick.

Black Knight weapons are honestly better throughout the entire game.
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>>387279364
True, but BK weapons have higher stat requirements, and unless you have someone drop them for you you'll have to get lucky with drops to get one early. Unless you save scum or restart the game every try, at least.
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>>387279196
That's really the thing, a good majority of people seem to characterize him as an "easy" fight, to the point of being disappointing. Meanwhile, people cry blood over Gascoigne and Logarius, and I beat them on my first and second tries, respectively. Just different builds and play style, I suppose.
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>>387279487
>Unless you save scum or restart the game every try, at least.
They don't seem that rare, I always got atleast bkgs or the bks if I didn't get both.
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>>387279243
The hitboxes for her charge are absolute bullshit, so that's understandable. Doing her in the Fetid/Rotted/Cursed Isz Chalices were always a trip.
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>>387279630
I swear my game was bugged she would just spam her laser attack no matter where I was
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>>387272856
>skill
confirmed for not playing the game
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>>387279615
On average I'll go through the entire game and not get a single BK weapon drop until I can farm them in Kiln. Occasionally I'll get one of their weapons, but a first-time player especially probably isn't going to be able to kill one of them in the first place, or even keep trying after one attempt. Plus, unless you know exactly where they are, there's only two Black Knights early game at all.

Drake Sword takes zero skill to get. True, a new player isn't going to just assume to shoot the drake's tail that many times most likely, but if they're told about it they're much more likely to get their hands on the Drake Sword than any BK weapon.

So at the VERY least, new players actually have to work for the BK weapons. Drake Sword is practically gift wrapped, and really does make the entire first half of the game complete cake for a player who doesn't even understand how scaling works.
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>>387279840
Oh is it bloodtinge? Sorry for not memorizing girl weapons.
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I used the Stake Driver almost the entire game. Bosses like Amelia, Ebrietas, and Logarius, all of which seem to give people trouble (from what I've noticed) I was able to kill in one go. Shit, I barely remember Ebrietas especially, not even a single move besides the laser beam attack the fight went so quick.

Is it just a playstyle thing?? That's all I can come up with. Also, fuck the Orphan.
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>>387271187
How the fuck is Logarius hard? What the fuck are you retards doing to make him kill you? Not shooting the sword he stabs into the ground? Not pressing circle when he swings? What? I can understand Orphan, but not fucking Logarius.
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>>387279851
>there's only two Black Knights early game at all
What? There's one in the Burg, Parish and Darkroot Basin that are almost impossible to miss. Then there's the one in the Asylum that I suppose a new player might not find, and the one in the Catacombs that you'll run into sooner or later.
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>>387279035
She died on the third trip in my game.
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Alfred did nothing wrong.
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> I died 3 fucking times
I-is that a lot?
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>>387280231
I wouldn't call the one in Catacombs or the one in Darkroot 'early' for a new player. Most new players will be hesitant to even approach the Titanite Demon beyond Andre until a bit later. The graveyard itself being a casual filter, on top of constantly respawning skeletons inside the Catacombs, also usually repels new players for a good long while.

And most new players aren't going to find their way back to the Asylum ever on their first playthrough, much less early.
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>>387280594
Darkroot is incredibly early.
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>>387280069
>OP says 2 days
>yet this faggot is probably 200+ hours in
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>>387280594
Darkroot is right at the beginning of the game. I love your "most new players" bullshit assumptions though
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>>387279851
I think you are just blowing it out.of proportion, the black knights aren't that hard to find and I hate to be that guy, but they are not hard to deal with with a little patience, hell you can even cheese them with fireballs if you are a pyromancer.
Drake sword isn't that OP since about after fighting that spiderwoman, you are pretty much gimping yourself by still using it since there are better options available by then so saying that it helps you blow through half of the game is just silly.
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Why do you people keep saying this boss is hard? I summon for bosses but solod this one and beat it first try.
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>>387280725
>>387280697
>>387280640
I watch blind let's plays fairly regularly on DS1, and a majority of players won't mess with the Titanite Demon until they feel they have to, and even then they'll almost always overlook the path down to the Basin and go towards the Butterfly instead, or just completely bypass the whole area.
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>>387280594
>And most new players aren't going to find their way back to the Asylum ever on their first playthrough
According to what, your ass? Why do you fucking morons pretend like """most""" players don't look shit up online when they play games?
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>>387280869
I'm specifically talking about blind first time players. What do players who use guides have to do with this?
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OP here, wanted to ask, where can I grind souls? I want to be SL80. What's an easy way to level up from 72 to 80?
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>tfw beat BB but didn't even find Cainhurst

I need to go back
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>>387280868
If you're playing completely blind, you aren't getting a Drake Sword anyway though. You do have a somewhat decent chance (20%, 3 chances) of getting a Black Knight Weapon.
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>>387281009
Sneak up on pigs.
Charge attack them then fist them in the asshole.
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>>387281009
What game and how far are you?
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>>387280868
but you can get to the basin from the valley of drakes and the undead burg. why are you being such a retard. just admit you forgot where the fucking knights were

>>387280948
>I'm specifically talking about blind first time players
oh okay and these players somehow know to shoot arrows at the tail of a dragon 100 times to get a sword, but they can't find their way to a major fucking area right at the beginning of the game
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>>387280948
Then how did they get the drake sword?
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>>387281009
What >>387281084 said. Go hog fisting.
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>>387281127
Except I didn't? In my experience, MOST new players do NOT find the Darkroot Basin until later in the game, ESPECIALLY if they don't take the key at the beginning.

We're talking about NEW players specifically finding the knights EARLY. If you think Blighttown or Sen's Fortress is early, then sure, it's pretty common for new players to find the third one. Otherwise, it's pretty damn rare.
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>>387281084
>Sneak up on pigs.
What location? I haven't really done any of the "main" story after beating Rom. In fact, I went to Cainhurst Castle after Rom and that's it
>>387281103
Worlds.com, 've just beaten the third boss
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>>387272431
>Miyazaki doesn't make hard games on purpose, they said
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>>387281275
Bringing it back to Bloodborne, I love hog fisting.
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>>387281292
Or if you've killed Amygdala, do a floor or two of Loran Chalice for mad souls.
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>>387281203
I have seen a fair number of new players have no idea how to get by the drake so they'll stand there and shoot at its tail (the only spot you can really hit it at) to try to kill it. But generally they see their pathetic damage and give up before they'd get the sword.

It is plausible, though.
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>>387281551
>Or if you've killed Amygdala
Don't even know where it is. Why are there so many optional areas and bosses in this game by the way? That's bullshit. It's like the most beautiful location in Dark Souls (Ash Lake) is completely optional
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>>387273580
How do the chalice bosses differ from the base game ones? I beat the game last week for the first time and stopped my chalice progress after getting my shit kicked in by a giant wth a club for a hand, Fuck that guy. But I've been curious to know, do the Amygdala/Ebrietas/Darkbeast have different attacks or visual differences?
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>>387281593
They probably wouldn't carry enough arrows to get the tail unless they were trying to kill the drake.
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>>387281289
>MOST new players do NOT find the Darkroot Basin until later in the game
>citation needed
there are six black knights in five areas that all connect to firelink shrine, three of which are accessible right off the bat and the other three of which are available after completing literally one other area. they are not well-hidden or difficult to find. stop capitalizing every other word you fucking tool
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>>387281703
When someone says Defiled before the boss name, they usually mean a defiled chalice version of a boss. In a defiled chalice your health is chopped in half.
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>>387281693
Nightmare Frontier, but it's an optional secret-ish area. Have you been talking to NPCs in houses? If so you might have a tonsil stone in your key items, if not you won't be going there for a while.
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>>387281593
>It is plausible, though.
More plausible than finding a major fucking area that has three separate points of entry from various different starting areas. You're pretty fucking dense dude
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>>387281703
>by a giant wth a club for a hand
Those pieces of shit have broken hitboxes.
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Anyone read this comic ever? Most of the time, the art is really cool but the "original" aspects they add to the story, such as pic related, are so fucking bad. These games give you enough to play with without dumb shit like this.
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>>387280690
Gascoigne and Cleric Beast teach you literally everything you need to know about the game. The rest is a mopping up exercise, unless you're shit. which I believe a majority of this board are.
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>>387281796
>a tonsil stone in your key items
I guess I don't have any. Will I be able to get there anyway?
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>>387271187
What is the spookiest bloodborne area or moment to you?
I thought the upper cathedral ward was pretty spooky.
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>>387282138
Research Hall
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>>387280514
No, op is a pussy who happens to be good at soulsborne
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>>387282026
Yeah, a bit later on. You said you've beaten Rom? A few story areas later you'll get to a place called the Lecture Hall, you can access it from there.

If you talk to enough NPCs in their houses, you'll come across one who gives you the stone and tells you to go to a certain place with it; this lets you access the Frontier much earlier than you'd normally be able to (i.e. right after Amelia instead).

Sorry I'm being vague as shit, just trying not to spoil you.
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>>387271187
>I died 3 fucking times and lost a lot of nerves
Dude what. If three deaths are enough to make you frustrated then I don't think you should be playing this series. When I was playing DaS2 for the first time I died like 15 times against Fume Knight and probably the same amount against Sir Alonne. Just keep playing even if you get your ass kicked and eventually you'll git gud and beat them. Dying three times on a boss is nothing.
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>>387282138
Hmm, abandoned workshop maybe
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Beat Logarius first ever try after not playing the game for 3 weeks. One of my better soulsborne achievements, apparently since I here other people say he's really hard.
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>>387282282
> and eventually you'll git gud and beat them
The problem is I've beaten Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 and I was expecting to be gud and first try everything in Bloodborne
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old hunters DLC has the 3 best bosses in the entire series.
while slightly short compared to Dark Souls 2 DLC, its still probably the best DLC considering the amount of thought and effort that went into that thing.
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>>387282138
When I was fucking around in the forest and found a cave with ay lmaos.
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>>387282338
something a lot of people seem to willfully ignore about soulsborne difficulty wanking is that some bosses are much easier with certain builds than others. you might've had the right kind of setup to kick his ass easily.

or you might just've been good, i'm not discounting that.
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>>387282298
>old hunter's bone was maria's and you found it at her grave
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>>387271187

YES HELLO,IS THIS THE LINE TO BULLY MARIA
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>>387282531
No! Quit calling!
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>>387282357
I had a shitton of hours put into all three Darks when I finally got around to playing BB, I found this actually worked against me since all the ingrained habits of Dark Souls are the opposite of what you should be doing in BB. Took me ages to unlearn muscle memory and tactics.
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>>387282181
That place was pretty spooky what were they even doing with those peo0le there to make them that fucked up
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>>387282664
Plip, plop. Plip, plop.
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>>387282426
Don't you mean the cave with the abandoned church giants?
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>>387271187
First time I fought Logarius probably took me almost 20 tries. I only ever had problems with him when he put puts his dagger in the ground causing the blades to fly everywhere and I didn't fucking know how to handle it. Then I just happened to watch my friend one day immediately target the dagger and shoot as soon as it goes in and that was it. Felt like a moron.
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>>387272431
But why not become your enemy.
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>>387282664
They were experimenting with the shit they got from Kosm's corpse and trying to ascend.
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>>387282138
hypogean gaol. the music spooked the shit out of me.
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I literally suck but it's still my favourite game. I got stuck on the One Reborn so I just did dungeons for a while and farmed for blood echoes and cool shit.
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>>387282138
When you drop down the tower and have to fight Beast-possessed Soul. That and the street after it felt like it had a ton at stake after climbing the tower, also felt like I was going into an area early, for whatever reason.

Hamlet was creepy too in the DLC.
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>>387283189
These guys freak me the fuck out
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>>387283002
That spooked me pretty hard to cult like eldritch shit in some place were normal people live always kinda unhinged me
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>>387283105
>I got stuck on the One Reborn
How in the fuck?
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>>387274228
After the final fight you go straight to NG+.
Remember this: three third cords, don't wake up, the house will be on fire.
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>>387283249
I literally said I suck.
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>>387283315
I suck and yet somehow managed to kill the one reborn blind on my first try.
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>>387283243
[spoiler}i had just taken acid about twenty minutes before when I was playing and reached Hypogean Gaol. The music made me jump out of the couch and power my PS4 off. worst trip ive had in a long time[/spoiler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlQcKBUcgmA
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>>387283315
did you know you could run upstairs and kill the fire bitches? that helps immensely.
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>>387283363
Congrats? I'm terrible at the soulsborne series and Bloodborne was the first "souls" game I played.
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>>387283454

no need to be angry stacy
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>>387283390
>taking acid when playing a game about a eldritch dimensional horrors
Absolute madman.
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>>387283406
Yeah I figured that out on my fourth try haha.
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>>387283506
Are u assuming my gender u CIs fuk
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>>387283564
I love you no matter your gender anon.
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>>387283601
I knew this day would come! I just didn't think you would say it first!
I..
I love you too, anon!
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>>387272431
>mfw unlimited quicksilver bullets
Fuck that guy
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>>387273580
Amy is actually quite easy.
It just takes a long fucking time, i beat it on my first try but circling around the very edge of the arena dodging when needed, only attack his arms when he slams down then proceed to go around.
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>>387283406
Last time I played I spent a while just responding to rings there, and twice I ran for the witches and the guy I was helping went straight for OneReborn... So yeah apparently plenty of people still don't know about that.
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>>387272431
He is a pain in the ass, all his stats are 99, and he has unlimited bullets. But when it comes down to it beating him is pure skill and patience. Hang back, parry, and let him fuck himself over with his over use of transformed Chikage.
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what's your favorite tune from bloodborne?
i really dig amygdala's, it has a very traditional horror movie style to it. and the theme kicking in when it goes into phase 2 is solid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BihcP_GduOk
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>>387283889
My first playthrough I did the same thing, didn't know about the stairs so I ran right for him and still managed to kill the fucker thanks to good ol' rallying and fast attack speed. Probably just got lucky though.
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>>387273580
I just stayed near its tail mashing R1 without much problems. The framerate goes to absolute ass when you make its legs bleed though.
>>387272431
He kept walking on my charged R2 and died on 30 seconds.
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>>387275942
I think its a mix of Cainhurst sets with Djura's hat.
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>farming off-shape 31% bloodtinge build gems
I never want to have to do that ever again.
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this fashion.
and cainhurst helmet + constable set are the 2 most godlike setups you can get.
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>>387281703
All of the defiled bosses hit like a truck because you have half health throughout the entire dungeon

Defiled Amygdala is in my opinion the worst offender
He takes up about ha;f of the arena you fight him in with the only weak spot worth a damn, the head, being avaliable for a few seconds after his attacks

In addition in his final phase he can literally hit you from the other side of the arena with the range boost
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I haven't played this game in like 5 months... Are there still active people online? I don't mind going solo, but I love helping out people with bosses. And I never got around to making the Strength/BT build to use the Bloodletter.
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>>387284143
>amygdala in that tiny ass dungeon boss room
oh my fuck. that sounds hilarious. i cant fucking wait to get my shit kicked in
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>>387284146
I've been playing recently and it was pretty easy to get summoned for shadows, logarius and one reborn
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>>387277087
Heh, I got really unlucky once and managed to agro all three and somehow all three of them followed me all the way back to the damn lantern. I Managed to kill one of them, then died two feet from the thing.
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>>387284101
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>>387280002
If you can use the Stake Driver right, its a OHKO on almost everything in the game. High risk, high reward at its finest. And you can feel like you're Big O! Though personally I kept feeling like THIS HAND OF MINE IS BURNING RED!!!
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>>387272431
He's one of the few enemies I have a grudging respect for. He's tough and the odds are skewed in his favour but it isn't unfair imo.
He's just as good as it gets.
Took many tries but when I finally beat him fair and square I felt better than any other part of the game could make me.
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Is TOH the only piece of Souls content where most of the boss fights can be fought upon immediately respawning, and you don't have to walk 10 miles or go through 100 enemies to get to them? It made fights like Maria, Ludwig, and Orphan much less rage inducing as most of the time was spent fighting the boss, instead of running around. Haven't played DaS3 DLC and DaS2.
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>>387285001
3's DLC is the same way. Arguably even less traveling than Old Hunters - I can think of at least three bosses between the two DLCs where the bonfire is right in front of the boss door. Don't recall 2 very well as it's been years but I think that one had some trekking.
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>>387285206
Way less traveling in 3's DLCs, can confirm.
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>>387272116
>after many hours of playing
So you never beat Rom and initiated the Blood Moon?
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>>387282138
Yahar'gul after the blood moon, in particular the area that's sealed off before it. Those enemies made out of mashed together body parts, those corpses on meteor craters burning forever, all those petrified people in the walls trying to run away from whatever the hell happened in that place. It's pretty horrifying and I think it conveyed a feeling of "this ayy lmao shit is very fucked up" really well.

The Lecture Hall spooked me too because of the students, mainly those weird noises they make. I got to that room with 30 of them and I couldn't continue on the level. Was dissapointed to find out later that I had gone through the whole thing already.
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>>387272431
I feel like I was the only person who didn't have much trouble with this guy. Dodge everything, get two hits (slow weapons not recommended) in after he charges at you, dodge everything while he bleeds out, repeat. Keep your distance and eventually reading when he's going to shoot becomes easy. Only ever died once against him.

Want to know who killed my literally over a dozen times though? Fucking Gascoigne. Even on new playthroughs today, he still wrecks my shit. I have died more to that fucker than any other boss, save Lawrence, and I come to find out that every other player out there thinks he's no big deal. The fuck is wrong with me?
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>>387285206
>>387285307
which reminds me, i finally beat gael for the first time last night with a buddy of mine. My game was the only one we couldn't beat him in, since I'm at NG+5. I still can't believe we did it. I was so happy.
then my friend solo'd Midir and wants me to do it too. fuck that
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>>387282138
The Upper Cathedral is only bad because of how fucking intense they made the music, even when you clear the whole place out.
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>>387285962
Are you me, anon? Gascoigne always butchers my ass two, three or more times per playthrough, while other bosses and dudes like the Bloody Crow barely even challenge me.
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>>387286050
You can do it. Get some lightning pine resins, hit his head, stay away when he charges and you're good to go.
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>>387285962
Gascoigne's got a way of psyching you out, especially when he hits wolfboy form. If you find yourself on the defensive he can fuck you up almost instantly, especially if you start panic-backdashing (like I did a whole bunch of times until I learned my lesson).

I found a lot of bloodborne's bosses were mental contests, if you go in confident and aggressive and stay that way they can be pushovers, but if you go in scared and defensive they'll tear you a new asshole. Hence the screaming and the blood and the horrifying appearances, the game design itself is trying to psych you out so you don't catch on.
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>bought ps4 and bloodborne
>just playing horizon instead because i'm scared of being too bad for bloodborne

Also, this post is NOT an invitation to bully me.
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>>387276828
Do they even drop anything? I always just skipped them.
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>>387286479
Hahaha Anon is a little girl! Hey everyone, look at how much of a little girl Anon is!
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>>387286268
Finally! Someone who knows my pain. Is it always when he transforms? I'll get past those first two phases of his just fine, then he transforms and kills me in his first few swipes.
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Can you get banned from online in BB if you do the save backup to get the 3 endings in one playthrough?
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>>387286479
>pls dont bully me
>in a souls/bourne thread
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>>387271187
>beat ludwig first try
>orphan 3rd try
>still can't beat ebrietas
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>>387286726
Why? She's easily telegraphs her drop attacks and since the hurtbox doesn't linger a good roll/dash will make sure you don't take any damage. Somehow the Living Failures were my fucking weakness.
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>>387276828
I made that retard with the beast claw immolate himself on that weird altar corpse outside, took a long ass time but it was worth it
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>>387286479
But Bloodborne is fun. It has really good combat and cool level design. It doesn't matter how many times you die as long as you want to move forward and enjoy the game.
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>>387286358

I do have a bad habit of panic dashing, but it's never backwards. I'll always try to dash to their side, and I'll only realize once I or the enemy is dead that i was tapping that button as fast as possible. I'm trying to get better about it though.
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>>387286479
Don't worry anon I am a complete shitter as well and I beat the game just fine without having ever summoned.
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>>387286943
Maybe it's just me then, inherited from all that dark soulsing where a backwards roll will save you from like 90% of all attacks. But yeah Gaslightcone can very easily fuck you up in wolf form, after he transforms I usually try a combination of music box, backstab, and then by that point he's usually low enough to spam R1 furiously until he's dead.
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>>387273580
With defiled amygda you just want to stay under her so she spams jumps, you can hit her pretty consistently depending on what arena you get
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>>387271187
If you're not just trying to solo run it I'll play with you anon
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>>387272431
he's not hard, he walks right into charged R2's like a retard when he has his gun out (because he's just too cool to dodge them) and when he has his blood sword out you can just run away / dodge as his HP drains
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>>387287205
I never played a souls game. So that might be the difference. Speaking of, how different is combat between the two? I've been eyeballing DS3 for a little while now.
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>>387279035
Anon that's the Loran Darkbeast. Abhorrent beast is the chalice dungeon form of the beggar
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>>387276661
>lock onto the sword and shoot it as fast as you can
Funny thing happened with me, he did that attack 6 times in a row right after I shot each sword
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>>387282271
It actually doesn't matter which house you talk to after beating Rom. You'll always get the Tonsil Stone
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>>387271187
The final boss is actually the hardest.

I don't know why that should be considered novel but it is, somehow.
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>>387271187
Yes, in the DLC

Logarius is optional though
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>>387286358
Gascoigne definitely is a bit harder on NG+

His beast form is so much tougher. it's not impossible to parry but if you fuck up he's fast and deadly
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>>387281931
Name of the comic?
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>>387287729
I found the Abhorrent beast, Logarius, Gascoigne, every boss in the defiled chalice, and cleric beast, Maria, Ludwig, and Orphan of Kos all way harder than either Gehrman or the Moon Presence.

Also any boss where I have to fucking fight with the camera.
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>>387287506
DS3 is a lot more bloodborne-influenced than the others, the combat is noticeably sped up and the rolls are faster and take less stamina so it might be a good easing into the series. Or it might just feel like a pale imitation. Personally I love the combat in 3, I felt they hit the perfect balance. Weapon arts are also fun as fuck, adding a lot more variety to the standard light/heavy/roll attacks.

I'd almost say start with 1, though. It'll be easier to unlearn the habits and pick up what the game wants to you play like. But ultimately it's up to you.
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>>387288069
>>387287506
just realized I didn't actually answer your question, hurr

DS is a lot slower and more cautious, there's a lot of waiting for the right moment and countering, since you don't have the rally system and a lot more enemies have significant poise. Bosses in particular you want to watch, dodge, and wait instead of going on the offensive. Parrying exists but it's done with a shield at close range so it's riskier, and doesn't work on a lot of enemies. There's a lot more weapons but with smaller movesets. And magic is a lot more than a bunch of tools, you can pick some up for support for low cost or go all-in with weapon infusions and offensive spells.

Basically it's a more cautious, exploratory feel. You might feel more vulnerable despite having a full suit of armor and shield. Or you might steamroll through it, I dunno. They both become a lot easier with confidence and knowledge of the enemy, though.
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>>387283189
what were they doing down there? they are supposed to be hunting beasts
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>>387289264
I think those were abandoned prototypes or some deal.
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>>387288069
>Personally I love the combat in 3, I felt they hit the perfect balance
If the rolls were replaced with the dashes/sidesteps from Bloodborne I'd be inclined to agree.
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>>387271187
I found Ludwig, Laurence, Orphan, and and Ebrietas more difficult, but Logarius is tricky.
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>>387289369
I guess from a visual standpoint dashing in full armor looks silly. Not that rolling around at the speed of sound doesn't, but they probably just wanted to stay consistent with the rest of the series.
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>defiled amygdala kicked my ass so hard I had to use hunter tools to hit it from afar
so this is what it feels to be a pussy and use pussy ways of cheesing bosses
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>>387279487
>tfw you got the black knight sword from the first one you see both times in your runs
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>>387288583
>>387288069
Thanks for answering. I think I'll stick to bloodborne for now, but I'll keep all this in mind for the future.
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>>387287729
>If Gehrman
If you say so. He's definitely no pushover and different people with different playstyles have different speed bumps, I suppose.

>If Moon Presence
What?
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How does Bloodborne get away with having a complete shit nonsensical story because "lol it's dreams bro nothing has to make sense"?
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>>387290584
Time is convoluted, sweetie
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>>387290584
But the story does make sense, it's literally Lovecraft with a Van Helsing coating at first.
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These fuckers
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>>387290826
seems like character motivations are as well
as well as geography
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>3 times

How the fuck did you even find this board? Or you're properly trolling lad
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>>387290914
Stop spouting this meme. It has nothing to do with lovecraft other than aliens being gods/revered as gods. That's the closest to Lovecraft Bloodborne gets.
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>>387279243
You didn't just summon that mensis fuccboi and camp out behind her tails?
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>>387291031
There are no aliens, bro. The sky and the cosmos are one.
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>>387291031
Lovecraft literally made stories where dreams are literal alternate realities you goddamn fucking moron, stop pretending it's all Old Ones and Elder Gods.
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>>387291345
Lovecraft also did stories about people eating other people. Is cannibalism Lovecraftian too now?
What about necromancy?
Kill yourself retard. No matter how hard you try to spin it, Bloodborne is not Lovecraftian media. I give props to Miyazaki for his insight gimmick, it was a nice try.
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>>387290584
>nonsensical story
Why do retards act like they're smart so often?
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>>387291031
The DLC is literally Inssmouth in videogame format.
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>>387291634
What the media needs to have to be considered Lovecraftian, then.
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>>387291031
What is Fishing Hamlet?
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>>387291634
Being retarded doesn't excuse you for ignoring obvious references you fucking moron.
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>>387291802
I must have missed the chase sequence. Or was that the climbing the well ladder as fast as possible as soon as you realized the sharks were fucking niggers scum of the earth?
But yes Fishing Hamlet is probably as close as BB gets to Lovecraft, but because Miyazaki is too afraid to deviate from the area (kill everything) -> bossfight (kill it too) formula, it ultimately fails in achieving lovecraft kino.
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>>387291802
Moon Presence looks like Nyarlathotep.
And the LF calling down the cosmos are really similar to that story where some dude did the same thing using a machine.
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>>387291921
References don't make something Lovecraftian you fucking moron. Literally every game has Lovecraft references.

>>387291851
Well the central core piece of it is cosmic horror and a sense of helplessness. In Bloodborne you destroy everything that moves, no contest. And the closest it ever gets to horror is Upper Cathedral Ward.
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>>387272965
>Bloodtinge build

NO NO NO NO NO I HATED TO FARM THOSE FUCKING BLOODGEMS AAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>387291959
>It needs to have every major story pitch to be Lovecraftian
Ignorance is never an excuse to be retarded.
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>>387292146
>Chikage
>Evelyn
>50 Bloodtinge
Feels so good
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>>387272431
>tfw I beat this fuck with 14 vit using chikage by parrying his lifesaving blood vial
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>>387292064
>not Research Hall
Come on now.
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>>387292171
You must have missed the second sentence that clearly reveals that the first one was just me being a smartass.
I said that Fishing Hamlet is as close as it gets to Lovecraft.
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>>387271187
The chalice bosses are harder. THe defiled dog, amygdala, abhorrent beast, Paarl (in a water soaked room with pit falls at the side) etc.

DLC: ludwig, Orphan and Laurence are alot harder.

In the main game, there's still Ebrietas who will kick your ass.
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>>387272431
It's meant to simulate that he is on a lower/higher level of the dream than you are. From his perspective you are moving slowly and sluggishly just like all the beasts do from your perspective when you fight them.
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>>387292338
Ebrietas is only hard because of her retarded literal artificial difficulty instant charge that one shots you and you can't dodge. You literally have to exploit her AI to get past the boss fight and pray she doesn't decide to use the charge. It's shit design.
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>>387292362
t. FromSoftware employee

That's a nice way to say that his mechanics was horribly imputed and was mostly planned to be broken.
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>>387272431
Ive only legit beat him once. I cheese him now all the time though.
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as a /lit/izen it's always funny to see people desperately trying to claim that BB is Lovecraftian as if it lent any credence to the game's quality. Almost as if the quality depends on Lovecraft.

Lovecraft was a shit writer. His most famous work is meme shit and not even his best.
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>>387292694
it's always funny to see people from /lit/ claiming this as if it lends any credibility to their opinions.

face it mate, you guys are to literature what /v/ is to video games and what /mu/ is to music.
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>>387292694
This right here reads like projecting your own strawman argument.
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>>387292694
AS A FAGGOT MORE LIKE
AHAHAHAHA
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>>387292814
>"*AHEM*"
>"as a /lit/zen"
Who fucking cares.
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>>387292996
Sorry, meant to this huge faggot >>387292694
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>>387292814
yeah but like /v/ /lit/ doesn't fawn over total pleb shit when it comes to videogames.
lovecraft is normiecore "i read the summary once on wikipedia and all my internet friends say its awesome" tier
it's the overwatch of the genre
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>>387292694
>as a /lit/izen
How about you go back there, huh champ?
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>>387293793
>like /v/
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh god please don't tell me you actually believe your own bullshit?
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>>387292814
>>387292848
>>387292996
>>387293067
>>387293149
>>387293848
easy (you)s
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>>387282598
>all the ingrained habits of Dark Souls are the opposite of what you should be doing in BB
You were playing Souls wrong. I hope BB taught you how to properly play the games.
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>>387272431
>the only way i managed to beat him was by parry fishing

fucking stupid
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>>387293793
you mean people who know of lovecraft but haven't actually read his shit? bb takes inspiration from shit like the Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath, not the chthulhu mythos shit (most of the worst parts of which were written by other people after his death).

that's also why it's so fucking easy to spot the people who haven't read him in these threads, anytime someone mentions DUDE TENTACLES LMAO it's a sure sign.
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>>387293953
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>>387292064
>Well the central core piece of it is cosmic horror and a sense of helplessness. In Bloodborne you destroy everything that moves, no contest. And the closest it ever gets to horror is Upper Cathedral Ward.

Looking in my copy of The Complete Fiction, which I believe puts his stories in chronological order, he seems to take the cosmic horror theme more seriously with "The Festival", before that it's pretty much regular horror (in his way, of course) with just some introductions to his cosmic beings. I've only read up until this story, I don't know if he keeps this pace, but I have I sense that he does because the next story is entitled Under The Pyramids, and because although it's already half of the stories, it's nowhere near half of the book, so that gives me a hint that he developed way more his cosmic horror theme, rather than the hereditary degeneracy and "unsightly beasts" and shit.
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>>387293953
>twas merely a jest
Kill yourself.
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>>387274782
lawrence is retardedly hard in his first phase. i don't understand the frustration with his second phase, though. you just wait until he does the lava spew attack and hit his head. also, when he's crawling he only does it in wide circles, so you're safe inside it.
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How ridiculous are the NPC summons in this game? The one time I actually did it, the motherfucker stomped the BSB so hard i felt bad for joining in
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>>387294308
There's a lot of stuff about mankind's place in the universe and how cosmically insignificant it is, that we're basically at the whims of things that could annihilate everything humanity has accomplished so far by the equivalent of rolling over in their sleep. A counter-opinion to a lot of the FUCK YEAH HUMANITY stories at the time.

He does definitely grow into that theme, but it ends up being what he's most known for. Probably because "giant squid head man" is a lot easier to sell people on than "awful sense of helplessness and impending dread of everything being outside your knowledge let alone control"
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>>387285962
Gascoigne is murder on small weapon users.

My first playthrough with the hunter axe I flattened him at every corner because it could always stun him out of his insane amount of hyperarmor frames. I was in full control of his space.

Second playthrough I went at him with the cleaver and he raped my butthole. I couldn't slow him down.
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Can someone explain to me why people found Ludwig so hard? His first phase is a bit tricky, since he jumps really far and there isn't a very safe distance you can keep from him, but if you just stick to his ass then you should be fine, and also wack his head when he does the spit attack. Second phase is a joke, as he gets staggered into a visceral every couple of hits. Not to mention that he's much slower, and can't chase you around the arena as easily, giving you plenty of time to heal.
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>>387272471
We can tell you're lying, just FYI

And its obvious you'll deny it
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>>387294642
So, my point is that it seems that Miyazaki sort of tries to make the same thing (gameplay aside, of course) with putting regular beast horror and dreams/nightmares first, and then going cosmic horror, even putting wannabe Nyarlathotep as master of puppets in the end.
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>>387295282
Makes a lot of sense. Though I dunno if I'd call Moon Presence a Nyarly wannabe. He's not so much actively malicious as misguidedly helpful.
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>>387295804
>Though I dunno if I'd call Moon Presence a Nyarly wannabe. He's not so much actively malicious as misguidedly helpful.
I just thought their faces (or lack of thereof) were similar.

Is Nyarlathotep actually evil? Isn't it "the crawling chaos" or some neutral shit? "The Festival" only mentioned Nyar in a bad light when the MC was following nigger-man to that dark room or wherever in that cave, but I took that as an interpretation of the characters of it being evil for some reason. If there's stuff written about Nyar in the Necronomicon they sure as shit see it as being evil.
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>>387296483
Not to get all pretentious but I suspect standard human conventions of evil just don't apply to him/it. I think his deal is that his motives and goals, when they do actual concern humanity at all, are not beneficial for us. In the sense that a guy mowing his lawn is not beneficial for the ants living on it. Or something, I'm not exactly an expert.
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>>387297070
>Not to get all pretentious but I suspect standard human conventions of evil just don't apply to him/it
Yeah, that's what I thought too, I just haven't read enough material to confirm that.
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>>387282138
The unseen village where there's the chanting near the walls of petrified people climbing on top of each other and some are praying.
I beat the game and got the true ending a few hours ago. So the whole point of the game was to take out different factions and their great ones? And there's usually a purging of beasts but this time a Nightmare happened, a baby?
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>>387298310
Do you want to talk about the other two endings before playing all the way to them? Also, read this ending's trophy if you haven't already.
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>>387292520
That was Miyazaki's official statement on the enemy. You should get on Twitter every once in awhile.
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>>387298774
Miyazaki has a Twitter account? Huh, I took him as a shut in werido like those mangakas.
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>>387298680
Yeah I read about the other ending to make my choice. But basically the endings are all bad since the great ones still exist. There was so much different stories going on but somehow I was sent without being told that I was cleaning the mess of people playing with crazy stuff. At first, I thought I was killing only members of the church who became beasts.
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>>387299332
Yeah, you were basically in the wrong place at the wrong time
>"in this night of all nights"
Apparently the Moon Presence didn't want the nightmare ritual to be completed, so you took the role to end this shit. Notice how Gehrman tells you just to hunt beasts and not to thinking too much about it in the beginning, and then tells you to ascend the Oedon Chapel more horrible shit after you proved to be a valuable hunter.
You were used as a cannon fodder at first, but then you were tasked to do something of much greater value.
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>>387283002
>mfw realizing the music is actually people chanting on the other side of the huge double doors, when they all turn to stone after rom there is no more chanting/music in the area
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Chikage is for sick cunts
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Recently I beat the Old Reborn and it was insultingly easy. Literally spam R1 without needing to dodge any attacks.
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>>387272431
Is this the guy with the gas lamp? I fought him before Rom. Don't know why.
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>>387300427
him and wet nurse are the two biggest missteps in the game. i'll even forgive moon man
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>>387300145
gehrman only ever tells you how to get better at the game, never specific objectives or even allusions to them.

as best i can figure at first your goal is to complete the mensis ritual - in this sense, youre working for the school and against byrgenworth/choir. after that, you're fighting mensis in order to reach and kill mergo, ostensibly this is the will of the moon presence i guess? it gets muddy here
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>>387271187
SL80 is a good place for the DLC on NG, on NG+ I've recommend SL100+ unless you have a kitted out chalice dungeon gemmed character.
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>>387292146
It's worth the suffering though, isn't it?
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>>387279035
The bloodletting beast is the huge one, the abhorrent beast is the monkey wolf lightning beast
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>>387301491
Oh hell yeah it is. It's a delicious thing to one hit people with Chikage.
Man, the day I got two shitty "good enough" 30% OoS radials I invaded like 50 times at Mensis before bbgs FC. Good stuff, man, can't wait to get home and invade more.
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>>387300954
Fight him after Rom, it's part of Eileens questline.
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>>387272431

Parry, bait him into your running attacks, learn to read his ranged attack.
Is he hard? Yes. Is he overpowered? No.
The easiest way to beat him is to actually git gud
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>>387302028
HMPH man in the shithole pillar area is so much worse, that fucking camera when trying to dodge around the pillars is suffering fuck that cunt.
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>>387302028
Good god him eating that crossbow bolt down to 1 hp made my blood pressure spike into the danger zone.
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Fuck off with your sickdark game
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Logarius tip, if you hit him from behind when he's charging up you skip his entire powered up phase.
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>>387301840
>wasting so many hours of your life for +4.8% attack
>it doesn't even decrease hits to kill
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>>387279630
>The hitboxes for her charge are absolute bullshit
I've fought her enough times to be able to dodge them at any range, but I wholeheartedly agree
If she charges at point blank, it requires two very, very precise dodges in a row to avoid it, and if you fuck them up, you're likely in instability frames and will get one-shot
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>>387304556
I'll have to try that sometime. I usually try to stay close enough to her to avoid her charging me altogether, but if she does charge me point blank, I usually just consign myself to failure and take the damage.
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>>387305167
>I usually just consign myself to failure and take the damage.
If she can't one-shot you with it, that's actually what I'd recommend
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>>387272431

I will admit this dickhead is hard for most builds but I recently got to him with a character I rushed a burial blade on and he runs into the charged R2 like a dumbass every time without fail. I just kept flinging him across the room and laughing.

Every other character I've gotten to him with though he's been a huge bitch.
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>>387271187
>First play through
>Missed cleric beast
>Missed hemwick witches and BSB
>Miss ebrietas/logarius
>Misses amygdala
>Once I beat mergos and talked to gherman I skipped all the dialogue and said yes
>Wow what a shit game
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>>387272431
charged r2 axe makes him a joke.
charged r2 axe makes all enemies a joke.
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>>387305517
Shit, you missed almost half the main game man.
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>>387305517
Jesus how can people be so fucking blind ?
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>>387305608
>gets parried with his 99 BLT repeating pistol
>gets VA with his 99 SKL
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>>387305472
Hunter axe and burial blade trivialize any enemy that can be knocked on their ass by a charged R2, which is most of them, primarily because of their insane rally potential
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>>387305517

literally how? Did you watch a speedrun or something and just go straight to every required boss?
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>>387272431
you arcanelets will never learn
just spam executioner gloves at him
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ay yo should i use the pistol or the shotgun?
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>>387306262
Whichever you like the most. Shotgun is a bit faster, but I prefer the pistol because I time my parries better with it.
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>>387305614
>>387305680
>>387305991
It's a game, I shouldn't be expected to read shit.
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>>387306262
pistol
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>>387306343
You're right, honestly, nothing wrong with some things. Now you can play more and find more new stuff. Didn't you bought the DLC?
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>>387306343
>illiterate
must be american
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>>387306452
With missing some things*.
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Question for the people in this thread:
How do you feel about having to walk back to a boss after you've died?
For me it just seems like an annoying waste of time, as the boss is the fun part - dodging through enemies is not.
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>>387306517
just stop dying, problem solved
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>>387306517
This is meant to be a punishment for dying, but I don't find it too annoying because it's very easy to just run past them and go straight to the boss. In the DLC the bosses are literally next to the lamps so it's even less of a problem to me, especially when I'm cooping.
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>Blind playthrough
>Somehow manage to find Ebrietas
>Still have no idea why I hit that window
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>>387305698
what do you mean he's a joke with a charged r2 axe.
I beat him so easily.
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>>387306517
It was only annoying with Logarius
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>>387306517
i just dash through the enemies, like literally none of them can hit me when i run past them at sanic speed.
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Tell me a FUN and GOOD pvp weapon that is neither the Rakuyo, the Saif or the Bloodletter and has NOTHING to do with Executioner lore.
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>>387307186
AYY
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>>387307186
Kos Parasite, shits all over everyone.
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>>387307271
>>387307290
>
The attack animations are too slow.
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>>387307372
The dash R1 is literally one of the best attacks in the game and the normal R1's have solid hyper armor and range. The R2 has great reach and L2 is basically an "I win" button.
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>>387307430
I invaded over 2000 times in this game and I met an AYYY maybe 2-3 times. What gives?
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>>387307681
Making a broccoli wizard is a huge pain in the ass.
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>>387307715
I will do it. Just everything in Arcane or some in vit too? I wanna climb up that invasion ladder, so I want to destroy the skilled guys too. I hear some just put 99 points in Arcane and call it a build. Is that it? Or should I spend points on vit anyway and go for 50/50?
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>>387307681
Same reason why only half the people who bought BB ended up beating it - bad taste. Ayy mode takes work and people are dumb.
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>>387307791
99 arcane is a meme, don't go past 70 if you're going pure. 50 is totally fine. Always start cruel fate. Consider 25 strength for the wheel.
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>>387307871
99 ARC is beautiful
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>>387307945
Its a meme. You can have fun with it but its sub optimal.
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>>387308010
no need to be mad because you can't do 99 ARC in your level 98 memeta /bbg/
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>>387308134
No need to be mad about 99 Arcane being called a meme, because it is one.
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>the only looking good sword in this game is nontricked MGS
How much would I cripple myself in pvp when I use the untricked version?
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>>387272281
What rubbish, sticking in close is the way to nerf him plain and simple, dodge left to avoid his skull attack and then visceral him during his power up. Easy.
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>>387308283
Not at all? HMS is a great sword. Just use a 50/25/25 version of it or something if you don't care about beams.
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>>387273580
Not really, he's easier than father gascoigne.
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>>387308335
>25
>not at all
Ehh? Why not 50 str?
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>>387271187
>I died 3 times
>and lot a lot of nerves
Wait what
Like
That's basically practice runs
Why would you be disheartened by what is probably 5 minutes of game time?
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>>387272431
This was hard? I didnt even remember this guy was in the game until now someone brings it up.
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>>387308380
That's what I suggested. 50 strength, 25 dex, 25 arc.
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>>387279017
You can just sprint backwards flinging executioner's gloves at him.
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>>387308440
But I wanna stay at 90 for maximum invasions.
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>>387308487
So don't level dex, and lower strength or something.

I mean, I have a bl43 twink that uses the sword, and before that it was a bl29 twink that still used the sword. bl90 is a weird stop for PVP though, you should consider leveling higher.
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>>387308587
>pvp
I just want to catch people doing the area before Micolash and bully them.
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>>387308650
Oh, then you should probably try to stay around bl70 honestly. The lower you go for invasions, the better.
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>>387308726
Level 70 ayy it will be then, I guess.

50 arcane, rest vita.
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>>387271187
Is a PS4 in all honesty worth it? I am on PC and the only games I play are souls and warband, but I'm not sure if i want to fork 250~ euro for a few games? What else does ps4 have besides bloodborne and nioh?
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>>387308770
Sounds good anon, have fun. Remember that Flamesprayer is your BFF at the start of the game.
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>>387308797
I'd say its worth it. I love the Souls series but I'm addicted to Bloodborne, DS3 feels like total shit in comparsion, I can't even play through the game anymore. And I really, REALLY wanted DS3 to be vastly superior to BB but it's simply not.
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>>387308797
I would say so, if you have friends Salt and Sanctuary coop is great. Until Dawn was fun. If you already have a PC there's not a ton of exclusives that you'll find, but Bloodborne is a masterpiece.
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>>387308886
I'll just whip everything to death a-and get help for Kos.
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>>387309045
>starting with the cane
G-good luck, anon!

I started with the ax just to spin attack through the start.
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Fuck, I still haven't made up my mind. Help me out.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13717388
http://www.strawpoll.me/13717388

>>387309085
I made 2 new characters in the past 3 weeks. Weebshit that cuts through steel and Marias sword. Always started with the Cane, I will be fine.
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>>387308797
PS4 got Horizon Zero Dawn, Yakuza 0, Nioh, Nier and Persona 5 all THIS YEAR.

Its totally worth it and i've played more than combined in recent years.
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>>387309169
>MGS
Its the HMS
Just go Ayy
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do people still co-op in this game?
the first time round playing this I didn't have PS+, but do now, wanna try all the summoning stuff on new playthrough.
also, anyway to use DLC weapons on NG playthrough? there was a lot of new shit in the dlc, but didn't get to use it.
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>>387309404
>also, anyway to use DLC weapons on NG playthrough?
By....going to the DLC first? What kind of question is this? Just beat Amelia and go to the DLC.
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Laurence
Chalice dungeon dog
Chalice dungeon retard with the chains
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>>387308412
He's clearly lying, i bet he died like 10 or 15 times.
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>>387281052
it's easy to miss
there is literally no other reason to ever go back to the witch area after beating the boss
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Hi there hunter, I'm afraid I can't let you get the Rakuyo :^)
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Ahhh Kos...
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Is AYY mode good in pve too?
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>>387286618
COUNTER ATTACK
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>>387306343
and yet your reading a thread about the game you barley even played because you didnt want to read?
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>>387311265
>*unsheathes shaman katana*
Nothin' personal, fishy
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>>387271187
Oh cool, a Bloodborne thread. How viable is making a pure BLT build? I have done everything that I can think of except that (The SKL/ARC and STR/ARC were surprisingly fun)
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>>387312026
It's my favourite build.
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>>387311908
I never tried this on another enemy in my first playthrough, so I didn't know what it did. I just assumed it confused enemies by removing their aggro towards you and making them walk around.

When I did try it I felt like a retard. That's what I get for doing a blind playthrough.
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>>387311407
Parasite is meh, but with all the OP hunter tools, PvE becomes a joke.
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>>387312203
How can something be good at killing players but still being meh pve wise?
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>>387312246
Unpredictable, AoE attack, dash R1s
Blades of Mercy for example; great for PvP, shit for PvE. Awful range, can't buff, no serration, low damage
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>>387282138
Fishing Hamlet spooked me. Before that, probably Yahar'gul and The One Reborn. Playing that part with headphones was a magical experience, that fucking boss wretches, moans and slimes away and you can hear it so clearly oh god.
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Quick, I need a good AYYY name.
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>>387312960
Marvin the Martian
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>>387313263
I wanna make him a Chad Hunter, though. Needs still some working. I can't give him a name like that.
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>>387313629
>what should i name my Chad hunter
gee i dont know
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>>387313728
Just Chad is boring.
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>>387313629
The Rad Chad
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>died 3 times
>lost a lot of nerves
I died +50 times to Ornstein & Smough because I literally couldn't handle two big guys at the same time.
I beat them eventually. When I started my second playthrough, I killed them in my first attempt, even made it harder by killing Smough first.
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>>387313629
Any final suggestions?
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>>387313770
Bullshit Chad is the most beautiful name in exstance
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>>387314148
Make him as jacked as you can.
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>>387314397
How does that work other than the option "very muscular build"?
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>>387314448
I don't know figure it out, it isn't chad if he doesn't have the body of a greek god.
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>>387314148
/bbg/ makes a point, arcane is for nerds and would destroy my looks. Should I go with untransformed Moonlight after all?

base requiprements for sword, 50 str, rest in vit and stay kinda low around 70ish?
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>>387283002
THAT IS NOT A FUCKING SOOTHING HYMN
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>>387312090
Where do I farm these kind of gems?
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>>387277087
you can lure them to the jail cell you wake up after getting abducted. You can either lock yourself in there and attack them through the bars or lock them in there, whichever is easier.
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>>387309045
Go with the saw spear first and get the triangle fire gem from old workshop
Then get some fire gems from hot dog in chalices
This weapon will carry you through most vanilla content
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>>387271187
I beat Logarius on my first try *anime shrug*
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>>387276828
What the hell were they even doing in that area? Why was that one guy nude?
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>>387315383
Chalices
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>>387316380
they busted the old lamp
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>>387271187
Hol up
Is it called SL in BB?
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>>387316380
They are hunting you
They broke the lamp so you couldn't use it to escape
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>>387316679
trash tiier hunters tbqh
the guy in the middle is begging for you to backstab/visceral him and you don't even have to go past them anyway
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>>387271187
Laurence the first vicar literally owned my soul. I must have died to him 50 times or so before I got him down.

Protip: don't always rely on lock on, a lot of the huge bosses become way easier if you don't use it.
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>>387271648
Not really. I had more trouble on Eileen to be honest
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>>387316676
No, BL.
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>>387282138
Forbidden woods. The entire level stresses me out.
>looking for babby snakes
>avoiding daddy snakes
>snake heads
>rifles and dogs everywhere
>traps all over the place
>3v1 boss
>ayyys out if nowhere
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>Finally do all the boring, repetitive chalice shit to get the plat
>Headless beast fucker was the worst fight in the game on every aspect
>Queen is hilariously easy
>All I get is some useless stone

Wish they'd have made another DLC or something.
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>>387315187
soothing hymn is upper cathedral ward music m8
hail the nightmare is the hypogean gaol music
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>>387271187
>Are there bosses harder than this fucker
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>>387271187
Only a retardlord can die to Logarius.
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>>387277778
No, fuck you. Defiled Watchdog killed me more than every other boss in the game combined. Nothing else even comes close.
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>>387318623
Literally beat it in my first try with ludwig's holy sword +10 and str build. He's awfully slow and you only need to spam dodge and then stagger him for free hits.
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>>387293904
Hes from /lit/, what do you think?
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>>387300385
I wanted her helmet so bad
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>>387271187
lol I beat Logarius first try blind at level 43. git gud. game is 2 ez.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4uu23z
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>>387292814
>what /v/ is to video games
basically the best that the internet has to offer in current year unfortunately.
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