Is there a canonical reason Roxas has two keyblades?

Yes, play 358/2 days

>>387269085
No.

>>387269374
Then stop asking questions there are already answers to.

>>387269431
make me

>>387269002
They started giving out Keyblades like candy, I doubt it matters at this point.

same reason sora can, he has two "souls" on his body

>>387269509
I will DDoS you and Dox you and hack your mom's laptop with my advance knowledge of the google chrome console

>>387269002
who cares? even if there is it's all bullshit. i don't understand people who play kh for anything but the gameplay

>>387269618
Fuck me... i laughed.

I'm pretty sure Sora is capable of wielding 5 keyblades now.

Why does Kairi and Axel have a keyblade?
If you just need to touch a keyblade to get one why doesn't Leon have one?

>>387269765
I think you just have to be worthy or some shit?

I dunno.

KH story is a fucking joke. Any "story" past KH1 should be disregarded.

>>387269002
One is Sora's the other is Ven's

>>387269765
I think Aqua accidentally did the inheritance ceremony on Kairi in BBS.
Axel was training with Yen Sid so he probably had a ceremony too.

>>387269002
I think there was but I forgot.

>>387269765

Because of that thing called, fanboys. That thing can change things in a series, even if doesn't make sense, sense will be made by that fanbase.
If you don't understand or accept it, then you are just a retarded, or so they say

>>387269765
Basically if your heart is strong enough, you can have one on your own, or you can inherit it from another user. Its a reflection of your heart at it's default state.

Roxas holds Oathkeeper and Oblivion has a physical manifestation of Sora's ties to Kairi and Riku respectively.
Two Becomes One, in turn, represents Sora's connection to Roxas forged after their fight in KH2, and these connections are the reason why Xion visually looks similar to Kairi to Roxas alone.

>>387269765
Kairi touched Aqua's Keyblade, Axel is training.
>why doesn't Leon have one?
I don't know.

>>387269765

>If you just need to touch a keyblade to get one why doesn't Leon have one?

Because he isn't popular.

>>387269765
Kairi grabbed Aqua's keyblade when she was a child, starting a Keyblade Inheritance ceremony, which was accidentally completely when heartless suddenly attacked them and Aqua fought them.

Axel was literally an asspull

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>>387269002
Nothing in the whole series makes sense anymore desu. Just hope KH3 has good gameplay to compensate for the convoluted shit story.

Xigbar is already half-Xehanort

Roxas has two Keyblades because of Xion. While at first they shared what's basically Sora's or maybe what's Ven's, but as time went on while Roxas was asleep, Xion kinda developed her own or something. Keyblade logic is convoluted but that's basically what happened. When Roxas destroyed Xion, he took her keyblade with him through one method or another. The "develop" a keyblade thing holds water just because of Sora. He didn't have his own in KH1 and was technically using Riku's, but then got one back at the end of the game. Some would say this is because of Ven, but in CoM he didn't have his own heart inside of him, let alone Ven's, and he definitely wasn't using Riku's anymore, so at that point he had his own, at least.

This game's logic is dumb.

>>387270126
Sora can dual wield because of Ventus's heart hiding inside of him while he's in a coma. Xion is a clone made out of data that the Org made incase Roxas or Sora proved to be useless to their goals. That's literally all you had to say, not all that made up bullshit.

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Alright fuckers, here's the lore bomb:

Riku has a keyblade because Terra did the inheritance ceremony on him.
Sora has two keyblades, because a) During the Destiny Islands incident, Riku's keyblade realized his heart was dark, and went to Sora, and b) Ventus's sleeping/damaged heart is inside Sora
Kairi has a keyblade because Aqua accidentaly did the inheritance ceremony on her
And Axel... well, he'll probably get an explanation in KH3.
So for Roxas, he has two Keyblades because a) he is Sora's nobody, and b) Sora's connection to Ventus. This is also why Roxas looks identical to Ventus.

>>387269935
ty

>>387270489
>made up
https://www.khwiki.com/Oathkeeper_&_Oblivion#cite_note-Famitsu-1
>Famitsu Interview; Nomura: "The Keyblades the boy who knows Sora is holding are the Oathkeeper and Oblivion from the first game. The precious "Oathkeeper", which Sora received from Kairi. The jet-black Keyblade, symbolic of Riku.

>>387270579
So was the Keyblade that Riku was supposed to get from Terrence go to Sora, or was that one he was getting naturally. Also, if it is Terraces inheritance one, why did Riku get another?

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>>387269765
I could be wrong as fuck so plz no bully
>Why does Kairi and Axel have a keyblade?
Aqua unknowingly gave Kairi the ability. Might have something to do with Kairi being a princess of heart. Axel has one because fuck you surprise twist that won't get explained until KH3.
>If you just need to touch a keyblade to get one why doesn't Leon have one
I think it's because Sora himself wasn't actually a keyblade wielder at the time.The Kingdom Key was meant for Riku, but Sora could use it because Ventus was inside him. Sora didn't actually get his own keyblade until it chose him over Riku.

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>Decide to play all the games in the KH1.5+2.5 remaster because I had only played 1 and 2
>Scrape through 1's shitshow
>Start Chain of Memories
>Haven't touched the game in a month
Fuck CoM

>>387271038
2 is the best in the series, so keep that in mind

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>people are still confused about KH's story when you can literally watch cutscene compilations of every single game on YouTube and have hundreds of wiki articles explaining practically every detail

>>387271165
KH2 was really enjoyable when it first came out, but after playing KH1 I'm starting to wonder if that's just nostalgia talking.

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>>387271038
CoM is one of the worst games I've ever played. What the fuck were they thinking with that retarded card battle system, seriously.
So yeah, fuck it.

>>387269085
fpbp

>>387270902
The Keyblade that Sora gets was supposed to be Riku's, yes, but his heart was dark and prevented him from getting it. The other weapon Riku uses throughout KH1 is not a keyblade, just some weapon made by Maleficent. The keyblade he gets in KH2 is because his heart is no longer dark, but Sora can still use his keyblades because of Ventus.

>>387271390
It's not. KH2's gameplay still holds up to this day, fuck it's even better now with the Final Mix content and it being at 1080p60.
Just watch the cutscenes or read a wiki summary of CoM, then watch Days. CoM honestly just isn't worth playing through.

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>>387271293

>>387270075

In BBS didn't Lea pick up the wooden training Keyblade that Terra gave to Ven at the start of his training?
Another accidental inheritance ceremony?

>>387269002
It's called Xion.

>>387271390
No KH2 is so much better (gameplay wise) than KH1. It still holds up, it's so fluid and fun. Especially when you fully level all your growth abilities.

>>387270579
Riku's keyblade went to Sora because Riku refused the call and it went to the next warm body, not because it sensed darkness or anything

Literally who fucking cares? It's fun to play but I just drown out most of the bonkers story.

>>387271665
So if it wasn't for Riku's dumbassery and Ventus being a little bitch, Sora would be no one?

Even though he's arguably the strongest character in the entire franchise?

And he's also not a keyblade master?

>Kingdom Hearts

dropped.

HEY HEY HEY

>>387269691
No, just two.

Ventus' and his own.

Roxas' second keyblade is xion's, which is just sora's

>>387269765
Leon confirmed to gain a keyblade

>>387270731
np

>tfw been fucking around with kh2/kh2FMs code for the past couple weeks to understand how it works and how to edit it

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HEY HEY HEY!

>>387269765
Keyblades are "passed" down from user to user, but there's no guarantee that you'll get the ability, as the keyblade is picky about who it gives its power too and will do so whenever the fuck it feels like it.

Axel was a keyblade user in training that got nobody'd, Sora and the gang all got given their keyblades by the 3 main protags of BBS. The reason Riku was more susceptible to DARKNESS was because Terra was.

Leon never got given a keyblade and who knows if he'd be able to wield it. There used to be 1000s of Keyblade wielders, but it ended in a huge war, so Keyblade users have become few in the modern age.

>>387269765
>>387270164
If a person not worthy enough tries to wield a Keyblade, it returns to its owner instictively. Happened with Leon and Jack Sparrow

>>387271956
There's a speedrunner named like sonic something idk I don't remember but he does a lot of KH edit stuff, I would check him out if you haven't

>>387271038
Play GBA CoM, not Re:CoM

>>387269765
Kairi has it due to Aqua performing inheritance ceremony in BBS.
Riku has it because Terra performed it on him.
Sora got his because of Ventus' heart being in him and Roxas has it because he's Sora's Nobody.
Xion had hers because dude clone lmao, her being absorbed into Roxas is why he can use 2 and then Roxas being absorbed back into Sora is why Sora can use 2.

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>>387271762
Pic related

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>key "blade"
Why does this autistic fucking retarded shit exist and why is Disney involved? I remember a weeb friend tried to make me play the first kingdom sharts a long time ago and I fucking hated it.

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>>387271796
>getting all growth abilities to max level
>gliding to the end of the map in a split second like a mofo

>>387269896
KH1 had asinine writing and anyone who enjoys its plot is a nostalgia fag. KH2 and BBS really aren't any worse.

>>387271854
That pretty much sums it up. But, if Ventus hadn't gotten fucked up, I feel that he would've probably done the ceremony on Sora anyways.

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>>387272061
U DON GET IT OK
SORA HAS A KEY BUT ITS A SWORD BUT IT CAN OPEN CHESTS AND HEARTS ITS AMAZINGLY DEEP
WOOWWW EVERYBODY POINT & LAUGH AT <THIS GUY LMAO

>>387272061
>Why does this autistic fucking retarded shit exist
Ask Nomura
>and why is Disney involved?
For a quick summary:
Square and Nomura were fascinated by Super Mario 64 and wanted to make a game that rivaled it, but a Square exec brought up that the only character that would even have a chance at competing would be Mickey Mouse.
Then that same exec happened to be in an elevator with a Disney exec, because they worked in the same building at that time, and he brought up the idea. The rest is history.

>>387272061
>kingdom sharts
THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S CALLED

>>387271762
It's a piece of wood

>>387272025
I have, and I've also asked a couple other KH2 autists for help with specific things. But I've mostly been working on unfucking the codes other people made years ago that are supposed to do what I want, but they missed like half the shit they were supposed to do and were organized in the most retarded way. And some of the codes flat out didn't work because the idiots used a completely wrong address unrelated to the thing they were trying to do.

>>387272407
It's also a Keyblade that represents the friendship between Terra and Ven. Which mirrors the friendship between Axel and Roxas.
In this series that more than enough.

>playing bbs
>having a good time. a little iffy at first
>get to any boss ever in the game
>they are only hittable 1/3 of the time and stunlocke and combo you to death, yet your attacks don't stunlock them and they get out of them easily, usually before the last hit of the combo so as you're still in your combo they just hit you and stunlock you to death.


SOMEONE ACTUALLY PROGRAMMED THIS AND THOUGHT IT WAS ALRIGHT

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>>387272278
U DON GET IT OK
MARIO HAS A MUSHROOM BUT ITS A POWERUP BUT IT CAN MAKE HIM BIGGER AND STRONGER
ITS AMAZINGLY DEEP
WOOWWW EVERYBODY BING BING & WAHOO AT <THIS GUY LMAO

U DON GET IT OK
SONIC HAS A GEM BUT ITS A POWERUP BUT ITS A DBZ RIPOFF
ITS AMAZINGLY DEEP
WOOWWW EVERYBODY POINT & SPINDASH AT <THIS EGGMAN LMAO

Shut the fuck up. Games are fictional.

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>>387272320
Here's more dev lore
During planning, Disney wanted the main character to be Donald, but Square wanted Mickey. Nomura said "fuck the both of you, it should be an original character" so he sketched up an anthro lion kid holding a chainsaw.

>>387271985
Riku literally mastered the darkness and is primarily a darkness user without getting corrupted by it, Terra would be too if Eraqus and Aqua were massive cockmunching faggots giving him complexes, arbirtarily rejecting darkness for no reason other than CUZ ITS SCARY and thus driving Terra straight into Xehanort's manipulative clutches.
Eraqus and Aqua by proxy are literally the reason for EVERYTHING that went wrong in Kingdom Hearts.

>Xehanort roaming free to do whatever the fuck he wants and breaking Ventus' heart
Eraqus.

>Terra being called a failure, suffering complexes and getting manipulated by Xehanort
Eraqus and Aqua

>Terra-Xehanort being freed from the Realm of Darkness and allowed to wreck havoc and be responsible for everything awful in KH1, CoM and KH2
Aqua

Fuck Eraqus and fuck Aqua.

>>387270293
Absolutely what this guy said. I'll do a review of the games I haven't played yet, specifically DDD and BBS, so I can fully see their stories. I still expect the story to be hot garbage overall, but at least I won't be scratching my head at it.

A real shame BBS and DDD were so fucking boring to play. I should try the 2.8 version of DDD at least to see if it's any better, but I already tried the 2.5 BBS FM, and fuck me it was so dull. Couldn't even finish Aqua's section.

>>387272708
I'm really glad this furshit design was rejected by Disney.

>>387270293
>Xigbar is already half-Xehanort
So is Saix.

>>387270864
Yes, those are the weapons he wields, but them being manifestations of riku and kairi aren't why he CAN wield them

>>387269002

Roxas can wield two keyblades because Sora can wield two keyblades.

You think BBS would've had a better plot if they dropped the whole Ventus angle and replaced him with Mickey instead?

Mickey gives Sora the keyblade, which explains why they have similar default keyblades. I liked BBS' plot in general (inb4 that 3 hour video from that biased, autistic speedrunner), but the Ventus angle just over complicates the lore way too much.

>>387271762
It was a hunk of wood, Ven's not a master, and that was early on in his journey even, unlike Terra who did the ceremony when he was already as strong as Eraqus

Yen Sid gave him a keyblade along with training him

>>387272983
The BBS lore is fine.

The whole Nobody/Heartless/Artificial people line is batshit insane.

>>387272721
Yeah, people call Terra retarded, but he's honestly flying dark and has no idea what the fuck is going on.

People act like he went full Anakin, but he all he did was give Xehanort the benefit of the doubt when fed some convenient bullshit. Eraqus was dogmatic as fuck and to be quite frank, a shitty teacher. Also his bossfight was kinda frustrating, fuck him and fuck the final fight against Xehanort.

>>387272721
>a darkness user without getting corrupted by it
>what is KH1?
Darkness and its shit just caused Riku a whole lot of unneeded suffering from 1 up until 2, which he could have avoided if he stuck with light like sensible people do

>>387273339
Anon, KH2 literally proved that Darkness is perfectly usable, but much harder to maintain. However that's offset by the fact that it's also A LOT more powerful.
Riku also becoming the Master while Sora did not is further proof that there's nothing wrong with Darkness.

>>387270361
>He didn't have his own in KH1 and was technically using Riku's, but then got one back at the end of the game.
I'm assuming this was explained in Dream Drop Distance because there's no I don't recall any other game bringing up that plot point.

>>387273214
>The whole Nobody/Heartless/Artificial people line is batshit insane.

Yeah, but Sora having 2 souls and shit makes that even more complicated.

>>387273468
And yet Sora regularly kicks Riku's ass, and the reason Riku overcame Xehanort's shit unlike Sora was simply because he already had experience being fucked with, and tainted by darkness and Xehanort unlike Sora, who also had that whole multiple hearts thing in him messing things up further

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So what lore impact does Kingdom Hearts V-Cast have?

FUCK MUSHROOM 8

FUCK MUSHROOM 8

FUCK MUSHROOM 8

JESUS FUCK HOW DO I DO THIS SHIT

>>387269765
>Why does Kairi and Axel have a keyblade?
You can simply train to use one after someone does the inheritance ceremony.
Either Yen Sid, or Mickey did it with Lea who wanted to storm in and steal the show wheb Sora got kidnapped.
Riku for some reason had Destiny's Embrace (I assume he or Ansem the Wise found Aqua's armor and Keyblade Xehanort had hidden in the Chamber of whateverthefuckhecalledit back in the Radiant Garden) and handed it to Kairi. I don't know why peope think Aqua did the ceremony accidentally when Kairi never even touched Aqua's Keyblade.
>If you just need to touch a keyblade to get one why doesn't Leon have one?
Because that's not how it works.

>>387270361
Sora took Riku's keyblade for good, you twit and Sora always had his heart in him in CoM because from the point he became a heartless up until the merger with Roxas, Sora was a walking talking heart

>>387273749
Literally none.
Why even ask.

>>387273749
Non-canon trash that Disney made on their own without Squeenix's involvement.
Was panned so fucking hard that Disney stopped getting involved with KH and just gave Nomura free reign.

>Giving a shit about KH canon at this point.

They're fun games, but let's stop pretending the plots make sense, let alone that they're logically planned.

Leave those mental gymnastics for high school fujoshits.

>>387273863
>>387273886
Actually look it up, Nomura said it's gonna tie in hardcore with KH3.

>>387273807
I used Master form because of how far it can fly during air combos. Use long keyblades like Fenrir and Sleeping Lion, go into berserk charge and that'll get you most of the way to 99 hits. You can probably figure out the rest from there yourself

>>387272035
>Sora got his because of Ventus' heart being in him and Roxas has it because he's Sora's Nobody.

Wrong. Roxas has a keyblade because he has Ventus' heart. Sora stole his keyblade from Riku accidentally.

>>387274036
I am Nomura and can confirm

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>>387273807
>take off all combo+ abilites
>equip horizontal slash
>equip fenrir
>equip berserk charge
>take off all MP haste abilities/items
>cast curaga before starting encounter to drain all MP and enable berserk charge
>spam square for unending horizontal slash until mana regains

>>387274036
You're thinking of Kingdom Hearts X you fucking retard, the official mobile game by Squeenix, not the shitty old Java mobile game by Disney.

R E T A R D

>>387274205
No my dude he just said it in Famitsu's latest article that the final conflict with Super Mega Death-anot will be on Swordman Island in 190x72 resolution

>>387274186
>>387274051
THE LITTLE SHIT AWLAYS FUCKING FLIES AWAY LIKE 30 METER AROUND 60 HITS

WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING WRONG

>>387274186
This.
If you do this and still fail to get S rank, you're a certified retard

>>387274368
Positioning issues, probably

>>387274330
Oh you're a shitposter, carry on.

>>387274330
Nomura here again, Makoto-san, can you step into my office real quick?

>>387274368
You just gotta get lucky keep trying.

Took me like 5 tries

>>387274368
Yeah it seems to be random when he does that, when 2.5 came out it took me about half an hour doing different methods and he kept flying away, when 1.5+2.5 came out I did it my first try using the horizontal slash technique, keep trying and you'll get it

>>387274484
>>387274416
LITERALLY NOTHING WORKS, IF YOU GET HIM AGAINST A WALL THE GAME LITERALLY TELEPORTS HIM BEHIND YOU JUST TO FUCK WITH YOU
FUCK THIS CANCER BEST I GOT WAS 81 AND I CAN'T DO THIS SHIT FUCK

>>387274717
Well at least the Silver Crown looks nicer than the Gold Crown

Alright so Vens heart was wandering darkness for a while when it stumbled upon soras heart as he was born.
The two hearts became one and thats the explanation as to why roxas (sora's nobody) looks identical to Ven.
The reason he's able to weild two keyblades is because both ventus and sora were keyblade weilders.

>>387274790
I want to unlock the bloody secret ending, but yeah it does. The Mushroms are the only thing left I need to do to unlock the ending.

TWO!?

>>387274717
m8, it just takes a few tries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9AzZL_wOcE

>>387274920
I don't even want S-Rank, just B-Rank (85 hits) necessary to complete the mission.

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>>387271038
>1's shitshow
kys faggot

>>387274368
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>>387274920
>>387274972

I struggled with this for about two hours before figuring out what the deal is, it's touching the hitboxes of trees and other objects, you just have to guide it away from those things, because when it collides with a hitbox, it will accelerate towards the ground

>>387269002
Xion, as a character, is the backstory behind Roxas's second keyblade.

>>387275018
Wait really? Let me try going with the little shit center down the long corridor towards the train then.

>>387274972
then just do the same thing but slightly shorter
>>387275018
Is that why it's such a bullshit mushroom sometimes? That's dumb

>>387274857
Correction, Sora and Ventus' bond is why Vanitas looks like Sora, while Roxas looks like Ventus because Ven's heart was left in Sora's body after the heartless incident, if for example it were Ven in Hollow Bastion, and Kairi god knows where and Sora stabbed himself like usual, then Ven's heart would've gone back to his body, and Roxas would've looked like Kairi, and Roxas can use two keyblades because he has two available to him, one being Sora's and the other Ven's

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>>387274897

>Axel and Saix are best friends
>Shit happens and when they're Nobodies they're not as close

This was pre-Roxas but that was kind of sad for me. What happened?

>>387275103
careful with that, the hitboxes extend about three feet further than the objects themselves, meaning the aisle is only about two feet wide
>>387275126
yeah, I figured it out because I was "randomly" sliding backwards on a downward slope in mid-air, it's the massive fucking hitboxes on the trees and building slopes

>>387275126
That video uses Master Form and I have no fucking idea how it stays on the Mushroom, cause in my game Master Form attacks immediately fly away like 5 meters behind the mushroom, out of reach and he just falls down in less than 30 hits.

I hate this cancerous minigame.

>>387275198
XEHANORT
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>>387274430
Alright you dense motherfucker, I didn't want to go through all of the trouble of digging up a screencap but because you're such a dipshit you don't want to google it yourself, here you go.
Now shut the fuck up.
https://www.khinsider.com/news/Famitsu-Interviews-Nomura-and-Shimomura-Reveals-KINGDOM-HEARTS-3-Final-Ties-into-KINGDOM-HEARTS-V-CAST-9580

>>387275235
>>387275279

it's also why whenever they get even remotely close to a tree, they get flung into the sky, it's accelerating up the tree's sloped hitbox

>>387275198
Axel became friends with Roxas and Saix was slowly getting XEHANORT'd

>>387275332
>Error no such article exists
10/10 bait.

>>387272035
You kinda left out the part where the Keyblade was supposed to go to Riku but since he went full edge mode on Destiny Island the Keyblade said fuck this shit and found the nearest suitable host. It just so happened that Sora who also happened to have the heart of Ventus was in the area. He was literally in the right place at the right time.

How come the games are sprinkled with Square characters but there's never something like a Final Fantasy world? Where did the Square characters come from?

>>387275654
The OC worlds, or even Disney Worlds, like Zack

>>387275654
>Where did the Square characters come from?
They are not the same chars as the FF ones, in-lore.
In KH they literally come from Radiant Garden.

>>387269002
He has the power of god and anime on his side

>>387275654
The first appearances of Square characters were in Traverse Town.
There actually has been attempts to integrate more Final Fantasy stuff into the series, in KH1 there's an unfinished Bahamut summon which was cut for unknown reasons. The menu option still exists, but when hacked back in it crashes the game.
Had this summon not been cancelled, it would be the only non-Disney summon.

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>>387275131

I like the plot of the games, it's fun. This is the only series in video games with a plot like this. I embrace it. If you don't think it makes sense, well, I'm sorry to say but you have a mental disability.

>>387275934
Damn dude, people are gonna jump on you for this.

>>387274368
>>387273807
worked first try for me :^]

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>>387275654
Nomura is a fucking faggot and dislikes putting characters he himself hasn't designed in the game.
And he also completely butches the personality and backstory of the characters he actually has designed
Basically the entire square part of kingdom hearts is shit.
If you were to go into KH without any knowledge of the FF games you would go out still not knowing anything about the fucking FF games.

>>387269765
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>>387271938
>>387273813

>Leon

His name is ducking Squall you idiots

>>387275131
The story is trash.

>>387276370
>ducking
kys phoneposter

>>387269765
>Axel has a keyblade now

I thought he died in the second game

>>387276354
>And he also completely butches the personality and backstory of the characters he actually has designed
They're not the exact same characters as they are in their FF titles you dumb faggot

>>387276370

Whatever

>>387276354
>FF games you would go out still not knowing anything about the fucking FF games
Why would you want that? This is KH not FF, leave FF storylines out of it.

>>387270361
>He didn't have his own in KH1 and was technically using Riku's, but then got one back at the end of the game

what the fuck is this real?

>>387273309
Aqua really shoudh have received more flak for the shit she didn't do, and only got away with it from the fanbase because she has a vagina.
At least when Terra and Ven fucked up, they at least attempted to fix their mistakes. When Aqua failed the one job Eraqus gave her, she still continued to not do it because "oh no muh friends might hate me fore bringing them back home" and then when shits all fucked up, all she needed to do was kill Terranort and literally none of the events after BBS would have happened, butt hen she goes "abloo bloo bloo Terra's still in there, I gotta save him!"

>>387276650
by that logic all the disney worlds should have none of their story in either

>>387276707
Yes that was the entire twist of kh1

>>387276707
Did you literally not play KH1.
That was a pretty important point.

>>387276707
you dont remember at hallow bastion when he poofs it out of your hand then gives you a wooden sword and tells you go play?

HOLY SHIT I DID IT
FUCK MUSHROOM 8 BUT I DID IT

Thanks for the tips fellas, jesus christ this bullshit is literally LUCK based.

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>>387276589
Nigger...explain, they fuck up the actual backstory and retcon the characters. "Hurr durr septhiroth is the dark part of clouds heart"
Vänligen, Käft böghora
>>387276650
>Oh hey look at this fresh hip new game, it's a crossover between square and disney. Except the Square part is fucked up to hell and an inaccurate representation of the actual source material

>>387276760
There's only one world dedicated to FF drama and it's usually the 1st world that's revisited often. There's more than enough rep for FF characters there. The rest of the game is dedicated to a surplus of Disney worlds so it only makes sense they would receive far more representation. Be happy that you even get to see FF characters to begin with. If Disney had it their way the whole fucking game would be nothing but Disney shit.

>>387276563
All nobodies are still alive now. Axel came back and has his own key blade now. Several of the nobodies are turning into ansem like xibar and saix. DDD was fucking retarded.

>>387276746
Also why didn't Eraqus himself hunt down Xehanort? If Terra was struggling with darkness, why did he send him out to find a guy who specialises in manipulating darkness.

>>387276940
>explain, they fuck up the actual backstory and retcon the characters
They are not the same characters they are in the FF games you dumb faggot
They have their own backstories in the kh universe. The only exception is possibly auron. It's not hard to understand

>>387274019
KH isn't even complicated to understand, but you are right that it isn't logically planned at all. You'd only be confused if you act like a jackass and skip the """""spinoffs"""""

>>387272721
I think fandom is too soft on Aqua because she's a hot chick with boobs. Her fuck ups weren't as obvious as Terra and Ventus, but they're still there.

>>387276354
I thought auron's inclusion in 2 was brilliant to be quite honest with you.

>>387276563
The names Lea, got it memorized?

>>387269002
Is there a canonical reason I should care?

>>387277160
Waifufags will defend anything.

>>387277160
>fandom
KH fanbase is cancer in general man, but yeah Aqua should get far more shit than Terra. At least Terra was a gullible idiot driven to complexes by a shitty master that should've known better, but Aqua has no excuses, she's an ignorant, dogmatic goody two shoes straight from a Disney fairytale.

>>387277120
That is possibly the most retarded thing i've ever heard.
Why in the fucking hell would you bring characters from their original game to a new one, but then change everything about them?
Might aswell have made new characters

>>387277334
Marketing, duh

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>>387271960
HEY HEY HEY KINGDOM HEARTS IS LIGHT.

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>>387277160
>>387272721
The biggest critique of Aqua I've seen is "she didn't kill Terra" - which doesn't exactly help Terra in the "Aqua vs Terra" debate.

>>387277301
Wait so what kind of argument is that? You're basically saying Terra is special needs to absolve him of his fuck ups.

>>387277334
>spinoff series that's a disney collaboration
You are one dumb faggot, this isn't hard to understand

>>387277441
Aqua is to Kingdom Hearts what Rey is to Star Wars.
Insufferable Mary Sue with fanbase of loyal white knight beta waifufags.

>>387276707
Yep. Riku was actually meant to be the "chosen one" Sora just happened to be at the right place at the right time.

>>387277504
I'm saying Terra's fuckups are direct consequences of Eraqus and Aqua fuckups and most likely would've never happened if those two idiots weren't such huge fuckups to begin with.

>>387273807
>on Ps3
>break a controller out of rage because of mushroom 8
>on Ps4
>"come on I already did it once, I can do it again"
>break a controller out of rage because of mushroom 8

Please, never release a Ps5 version of KH2FM

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Who was in the wrong?

>>387277601
Ah, so he's a child. Gotcha.
>>387277529
Pffft goddamn redpill-kun, doesn't take much to make you sperg out about Aqua. I thought she was Lightning?

>>387276370
Not in Kingdom hearts it isn't.

>>387277526
The entire series is a joke

>>387277641
What's wrong with you anon. I raged pretty fucking hard as evident by my capsposting but I'd never break my own shit, that's literally NIGGER ape tier.

>>387277441
Considering that "not killing Terra" led to some of the most catastrophic events in the series, its a huge fuck up.

>>387277826
>don't understand a simple concept
>repeatedly told how fucking stupid you are
>now derides the entire series in frustration
Just stop posting

>>387277835
Never happened for any game before too, I don't know why but I was so fucking frustrated because it's my favorite game and not being able to achieve a simple side quest was too much for me, I guess

>>387277226
KH's story is weird and overly complicated, filled to the brim with anime schlock, but for some reason I just can't help but enjoy the ride, even if certain aspects grind on me.

>>387276940
>it's a crossover between square and disney
Notice you said Square and not FF. Squares representation are their original KH and a few nods and cameos from the FF series.

>inaccurate representation of the actual source material
If you're referring to the bizarre vincent/cloud fusion from the first game then I agree. It was weird and looked like shit. If you're referring to the rest of the FF cast then I disagree. They're in character and are as accurately portrayed as possible in a game like KH that's targeting a very young demographic. I played FF8 and I thought Leon (Squall) was portrayed accurately and his desire to change his name seemed in character to me. I'll admit there are a lot of missing characters that I personally would have enjoyed seeing I can understand why they weren't in the game. Too many FF characters would overcomplicate a game driven to be mainly about Disney characters.

>>387277075
Ive always been salty about no FF worlds.
Especially in fucking DDD because it would have been perfect for cloud to be the huge douche he was portraying during the first half of the game and could play out the bombing mission or maybe going from kalm to junon for more kid friendly stuff

>>387277748
the parents of these kids.

>>387277748
Link to vid.

>decide to play the entire series

>Trudge through KH1
>Was gonna 100% it but it got too boring, not to mention all the synth shit that can only really be done right before the final boss.
>Was a downright slog to get through near the end thanks to knowing that KH2 is an improvement in every way and want to play it instead.
>Beat it finally and decide to play CoM

>F U C K it's boring and the battle system is so gay.
>Play Riku's story.
>Actually not half bad thanks to precon deck and fun Riku mechanics
>Still boring and I'm just playing it to play KH2

>Start up 358/2 days on emulator
>Realize it's not worth it after the repetition began and just boot up kh2 after watching the movie in the collection.

>Begin KH2
>Realize it's the best game in the series and easily the peak.
>Already 100 percenting it because it's the only game that isn't a grindy fucking bore to play thanks to actual fun combat and unique depth if you realize theres more than hitting X and Triangle
>Realize it will end soon again
>Realize BBS is next with the fucked command deck system
>Then 3D

I can only hope 3 makes Kingdom Hearts great again.

>>387277748
DOOAL WIIELD

>>387278008
I agree, but we got TWEWY instead, for better or for worse.

>>387276354
To be fair this is because it'd be weird to have individual worlds for each FF game to each disney world. And we already have to have a chopping block for disney worlds.

Not to mention the endings to the games are already jarring as all fuck, having to go to fucking Midgar after seeing Tarzan would've been dumb as all fuck.

Making all of the FF canon come from a single world and just lumping them with basic kinda similar backstories is honestly the best choice.

>>387278052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYqFJxVuBc

>>387278339
Thank you anon.

>>387278257
>having to go to fucking Midgar after seeing Tarzan would've been dumb as all fuck.
as opposed to going to the olympus colosseum/alice in wonderland being any better?

>>387277789
It's his real name in KH, Leon is just a handle he adopted.

>>387278508
Yeah
It is.
Because theyre both disney movies.
Really for a FF/Disney game it sounds like you just want an FF game with no disney.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DO THE MUSHROOM AT BEAST'S CASTLE

HOW THE FLYING FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO GET 450 POINTS WHEN I CAN'T EVEN BREAK 350

>>387272031
You fucks gotta stop saying this

>>387278634
ok so going from thebes/olympus to toy story will be jarring then because pixar isnt disney?
I just want FF in my disney/ff game instead of "heres characters that you like they do practically nothing and you only see them in the first level then MAYBE once again halfway through"
Would be nothing wrong to have midgar alexandria and zanarkand worlds sprinkled in

>>387277967
>>387278257
Yeah, I mean the series had to be tilted one way, either towards disney or square.
They don't necessarily mix great together 50/50.

>>387278074
>has never played BBS or DDD
>complains about the mechanics anyway despite never playing the games
Good job, you got brainwashed by /v/, you have Sub 80 IQ and are the cancer killing videogames, I hope you get shot in petty robbery on the street.

Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bo6Cbeq18k

Yes

>>387278716
Wisdom Form's slip and slide exists for a reason

>>387278827
No I've played them. I'm dreading REplaying them.
Learn to appreciate games for complex fun devices instead of the dumbed down shit we have now, casual.

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Why does Ven and Roxas look the same.
Also why does Ven have an evil clone that looks like Sora?

>>387279167
Gay shit that has something to do with hearts like litteraly everything in the series

>>387278815
Yeah. I think the fact that Sora is doing all this crazy shit in alot of the original worlds, the bosses, the combat, and every ending is pretty much enough original final fantasy-like content.
I agree they should have more of the characters doing things, but as is I think it finds a nice balance by utilizing the one gimmick the game has from other FF games, which is Disney.

Then you have dumb fucks like >>387278804
who think "PIXAR ISNT DISNEY SO YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID" like Toy story still doesn't fall under disney. Don't tell him it's a Pixar/Disney colab.

Some people want just a final fantasy game with like 2 or 3 worlds that you poke in randomly instead of the world hopping part of the games being disney while the overall plot and original content takes inspiration from FF, all while making original content very in line with FF games.

TL;DR dumb people think a disney/FF game shouldn't have disney and only Final Fantasy shit.

>>387279167
because roxas took on ventus's appearance due to vens fractured post bbs soul took refuge in child sora
Vanitas looks like sora because when ventus got his shit ripped in half by old man xehanort to create vanitas sora filled the gap for him with his own heart
until then vanitas had no face and was most likely just shadow shit

I'm convinced my Draw isn't working and is broken.
I've got all Draws equipped and I literally can't even break 350 points in the Beast Castle mushroom cancer.

I hope wheover designed these minigames gets aggressive cancer and dies in horrible agony along with their entire family so that their genetic line will never be spread again because this garbage is infuriating. Fuck Mushrooms and fuck everyone responsible for making them and making them mandatory for secret ending.

>>387278074
>trying to 100% KH1

There's your problem mate. It's fine as a 20-30 hour game, but doing all that grindy shit is not worth it.

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>picked up DDD years ago on release
>stopped playing for some reason
>recently picked up the PS4 port
>stopped in almost the exact same area
Why is notre dame so boring?

>>387279167
>I didn't play the game
Ventus was supposed to be used by Master Xehanort to create the X-Blade, the first ever keyblade. But he refused and lost consciousness. Master Xehanort divided Ventus' heart in two : Light and Darkness. Vanitas is Ventus' Darkness. He didn't have Sora's face before. But when Sora offered Ventus to share his heart to compensate the lack of Darkness, Ventus woke up and Vanitas' face changed.
Ventus' heart is still inside Sora, that's why Roxas looks like Ventus. That's also why Roxas can dual wield, because he used Ventus' ability combined with Sora's

>>387279423
Why are you too autistic to see the difference between having a handful(2-3) of FF worlds is different then having NOTHING BUT FF SHIT
the original content is not FF
I like the disney worlds just fine except for maybe atlantica but what is bad about wanting 2 or 3 worlds to be FF or shit even other square worlds like brave fencer musashi or chrono trigger
Zozo from ff6 would have worked like a charm in kh1 with all the clocks and stairway shit thats in tone with the more rpg feel of kh1

>>387279627
The areas are too big with nothing in them other than chests and enemies
Nothing really stands out or looks memorable so it feels more like a chore to get through the areas than be amazed by the world and its aesthetics

What level should I be taking on the final boss on Terra's story? I'm level 25 and the Terranort battle is ripping me a new asshole. Didn't really have a problem with any of the other bosses beside Eraqus, but fuck me, the only way to fight this guy is to spam block+counter until he decides to summon his meteors and giant fuck you canon and then I'm boned.

Whose idea was it to make a boss that's can't be stunned, is immune to damage at certain points and can stunlock you to death if you get tagged by a combo? BBS is enjoyable in general, but fuck me it has some shitty artificial difficulty.

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>>387275654
Come to think of it, with all the Final Fantasy Characters out and about, how come we've never gotten Gilgamesh?

>>387280007
25 is fine terranort is just a shit that im almost positive was meant to be cheesed with blocks and counters with the occasional shotlock

>>387279473
Literally how are you fucking up one of the easier mushrooms, did you not max out Quick Run, and aren't keeping close to him or something?

>>387280007
Go get Second Chance and Once More if you don't have them. You can get them by leveling commands, google a guide. If all else fails, get a bunch of elixirs and spam shotlocks.

>>387280151
How the fuck am I supposed to keep close to him when he literally, L I T E R A L L Y teleports on the opposite end of the bridge when I barely catch up to him and it takes L I T E R A L L Y three full fucking Quick Runs to get to the opposite side and by the time I get there there were 2 waves of orbs already despawned.
Not to mention his pattern is completely random so it can't be memorized either.

What the fuck is this shit seriously? Is PS3 version bugged or something? Because I'm fucking convinced it is.

Twice the edgy, twice the keyblade

>>387280051
I can get through Vanitas and Old Xehanort easily enough, but this fucker has broken me. I'm flat out ready to quit the game.

>>387269002
Yes. Roxas has access to Ventus and Sora's hearts. Towards the end of 358/2 he also starts to develop his own heart.

Between the pair, they can wield 3 keyblades by the time of KH2, which is why during the fight inside Sora's heart in KH2, there are 3 keyblades; sora's wielding 1, Roxas is wielding 2.

>>387280335
Equip Follow the Wind for an extra Draw and use Glide, not Quick Run.

>>387280405
Just go grind a couple levels and get better deck commands. It's not like its a superboss, and if this shit broke you, then superbosses will make you want to snap your console in half.

>>387280456
>Equip Follow the Wind for an extra Draw
I did

>and use Glide
I am, but I can't make the turns fast enough when he zigzags like a drunk motherfucker.

>>387279791
Because we already have FF and Disney at a good ratio.
It's 50/50ish believe it or not. The premise was to have FF crossed over with Disney worlds. Guess fucking what. Disney worlds are a god damn selling point you god damn sperg.

Of about 13 worlds 10 of them were disney in KH2 if I remember right. Not counting Sora, who is by all accounts a clashing weeb swordsman with magic named after all FF conventions. FF characters will sometimes just show up in the disney worlds themselves.

This isn't even mentioning that Hollow bastion and all the FF characters became a mini hub of sorts, had a giant war that spanned a big portion of the game, moreso than any disney world and was chock-full of FF fanservice.

You want to take a game of "Final fantasy things in disney worlds" and make it into "Literally final fantasy and sometimes having a disney thing randomly show up."
You act like Final Fantasy isn't reference or have any overall plots, yet they have one taking 3 games to fucking finish while the disney ones are wrapped up in like 2 hours. Cloud's story may finally end in 3. You have Squall being a badass in 1, you have all of hollow bastion in 2, you have the entirety of Sora in every part of the game.

>>387280243
>Second Chance and Once More

Thanks. I might just start over since the individual routes aren't that long. Going by the wiki I've missed a ton of shit.

>>387280335
It sounds like you're really slow reaction wise, Mushroom 3's movements are simple to adapt to, and a maxed out Quick Run while Wisdom Form'd is more than enough to keep up

>>387269765
Kairi I can accept.
Axle is fucking retarded.

>>387280684
My reflexes aren't what they used to be, aging sucks anon.

>tfw i've only played 358/2 days
I don't know what the fuck is going on.

>>387280779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0PEufk8joo
Maybe watching someone else do it will be more helpful, I dunno

>>387280552
they could have used them in actual FF worlds and wrapped up stories that were chunks out of the games instead of bastardizing them to the point they are only the characters in name and besides zack in bbs they are all in a world that is effectively a refugee camp from the heartless
None of the FF characters have done anything besides being plot devices that are easily replacable with literal whos or showed up just to have an action scene

Just picked up DDD and am about to enter The Grid. Any good spirits to shoot for early?

>>387280507
I usually don't bother with the superbosses in KH. They're not even canon.

>>387280585
in the final area, leveling up commands take no time at all.

>>387280507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6_eHRLXXPI
Here, I was too lazy to keep typing so just watch me do it instead.

Gypsies

>>387280921
Why, though?

KH2 ruined everything

>>387283319
KH3D ruined everything, KH2 was perfect when we didn't know what it would bring on later

>Nomura is a big Star Wars fan
>Even went so far to cast Mark Hamill in BBS and turn the Keyblade lore into a Jedi/Sith bullshit
>Star Wars is now owned by Disney

Star Wars world pretty much confirmed for KH3 and if not there's gonna be some sort fanservice one way or another.

>>387283319
KH2 was self contained enough that it didn't matter.
BBS ruined everything by shifting the scope of the story.

>>387283501
KH3D made everything worse by contributing less than the disney worlds KH2 by adding time travel and making the plot even more convoluted for no reason.

>>387273601
This was explained in KH1, are you dumb?

>>387271910
Actually Roxas uses Sora and Ven's.
>>387271985
>Sora and the gang all got given their keyblades by the 3 main protags of BBS.
Sora does not get his Keyblade from Ventus.
>Leon never got given a keyblade and who knows if he'd be able to wield it.
To have gotten one, Sora would have done the Inheritance Ceremony and he would have had to be worthy in heart. And besides that Sora would not have been able to do the ceremony at that point anyway

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>>387285069
Uh, no.

>>387285167
Uh yes. There are sources for all 3 of those.

>>387285279
Please link them.

Is the villain from 1,2, and BBS all the same guy????

>>387285657
Yes, Xehanort is the bad guy of the whole series (at this point. There are theories it's The Master of Masters that was revealed in the Kingdom Hearts X Back Cover movie, but we don't really know yet).

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>>387285489
>>387285069
>Q4: Why can Roxas dual-wield?
>A: Because he can use both Sora’s and Ventus’ keyblades.

>Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.
>https://www.khinsider.com/news/BBS-Ultimania-20-Mysteries-Solved-2546

>-- So it's not "Once Sora's story is finished, another hero's story will begin", the hero is always Sora.
>Nomura: Yes. One of the concepts behind the KH series is that the main character Sora isn't special, he's just a normal boy. Yes he does have connections with Ventus' heart, among others, but he hasn't inherited anything from them. He's just a normal boy you could find anywhere. I wanted to make Sora a character that the player could take onto themselves and feel that you don't have to be special. But connect to many people and you will realize your secret potential.
>https://www.khinsider.com/news/Full-Nomura-Interview-20-KH-Mysteries-Solved-1366


>-- This time we saw a "rite of succession"* - is that a required condition for becoming a Keyblade user?

>Nomura: That's essentially correct. In terms of the rite itself, the successee just has to make the successor grasp their Keyblade - if this rite is performed by a Keyblade Master, and if they have suitable power, the Keyblade will choose that person as a Keyblade user, and appear before them. Terra, Ventus, all have passed this rite. Sora is the only exception.
>https://www.khinsider.com/news/Birth-by-Sleep-Plot-Mysteries-Interview-1364

Sora was not a Master at that point and therefore could not do the Rite.

>>387285657
On a very technical level, yes.

>>387285069
>Sora does not get his Keyblade from Ventus.
Ventus merged with him, same difference

>To have gotten one, Sora would have done the Inheritance Ceremony and he would have had to be worthy in heart.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

>>387286148
>Ventus merged with him, same difference
No? Again, Sora helping Ven out has nothing to do with how he got his keyblade.

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WHAT HAPPENED

>>387286310
They lost the original assets for KH1.

>>387286293
he has Ven's heart inside him.

>>387286364
Again, that had nothing to do with it. Read here: >>387285815.
>Yes he does have connections with Ventus' heart, among others, but he hasn't inherited anything from them.

>>387286425
>>Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own.

Seems that way to me.

>>387286629
But that had nothing to do with how Sora got Kingdom Key, which was the original claim.

>>387286364
Idiot

Can someone explain why Axel came back from the dead though?

>>387286767
When you destroy the Heartless and the Nobody, in that order, the original person comes back.

>>387286767
All of the organization XIII members did, technically (well we know most did). In the KH universe if you kill someone's heartless first, then their nobody, they form back together into a whole person.

>>387286829
>>387286767
Also, he wasn't actually dead by lore standards.

>>387286310
They remade the game from a store bought disc because they no longer had access to the original source code IIRC.

>>387286750
>>387286759
Hey not my fault the lore's convoluted as fuck and Nomura contradicts himself constantly.

On that page you posted he says he didn't get his original key from Ven, but got another key. I mean shit, why don't you just simplify it and make Ven the keyblade source.

>>387269002
>TWO!?

>>387287021
It's not hard. All this applies to is the second key when Sora/Roxas is Dual Wielding.

>>387286946
They did a pretty good job touching up KH1, all things considered.

>>387269002
Yup. He has Xion's heart / memories, so he is able to use her key-blade as well, just like How Sora is able to use two once he has Roxas' heart / memories.

>>387287216
Read the thread.

>>387287216
This is it, like I said earlier, anyone saying it's Ven is wrong.

>>387287130
Which really, why does that need to be clarified? Nomura's autism is doing him no favours. When I played KH2 for the first time I just figured they added it because it was a cool mechanic.

>>387287292
>Sources straight from the director's mouth saying the opposite >>387285815
>No it is he who is wrong
This is you.

>>387287158
Indeed. Not sure if this was the case for the others though.

>>387287320
Pretty much but in KH everything needs an answer or else you get threads like these. I'm suprised the Xemnas question has popped yet.

>>387287021
Because it's ready established since the start that Sora's keyblade was Riku's, there'd be actual contradictions if he did shove Ven into why Sora's a keyblade wielder, and why he has his keyblade

>>387287320
>he didn't want a canonical answer as to why mickey was shirtless in kh1

>>387287647
That actually was a question nobody asked though.

>>387287420
We're talking about Roxas, not Sora

>Roxas uses one keyblade throughout 358/2 days
>Xion dies
>Suddenly he can use two
>"B-BUT SORA HAS VEN'S HEART"
think.

>>387287526
Why didn't Xemnas use his Keyblade?

>>387287751
>Suddenly he can use two
>Sora can wield two keyblades at once because he has Ventus’ as well as his own. As Roxas is a part of Sora, he also can use two. In Days Roxas awakened his ability to dual wield after fighting Xion. In KHII once Sora absorbs him, he can also dual-wield.
Why do you refuse to read

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>>387287835
You cheeky dickwaffle.

>>387287612
>Because it's ready established since the start that Sora's keyblade was Riku's, there'd be actual contradictions if he did shove Ven into why Sora's a keyblade wielder, and why he has his keyblade


Then why do the whole deal with Ventus/Vanitas and merging hearts. Like fuck just have Ventus die at the end or something? Why do we need a prequel to explain why Sora could duel wield in KH2? Why can't that just be put down to Sora/Roxas being a pro and wanting more options in combat? I thought I had this lore figured out but the rabbit hole is way deeper than it needs to be.

I love consistent world building and continuity, but it's like that joke RLM made about the Star Wars Han Solo movie needing to explain where he got his boots.

>>387288002
>Then why do the whole deal with Ventus/Vanitas and merging hearts. Like fuck just have Ventus die at the end or something? Why do we need a prequel to explain why Sora could duel wield in KH2? Why can't that just be put down to Sora/Roxas being a pro and wanting more options in combat? I thought I had this lore figured out but the rabbit hole is way deeper than it needs to be.
It's moreso to explain why Roxas looks like Ventus/why he didn't look exactly like Sora in KH2.

>>387269085
>Yes, watch 358/2 days
ftfy

>>387288002
He was always going to make a trio of characters for the prequel with a similar name style as the originals, and thought it'd be neat to tie it together with the stuff he already made, simple as that

>>387288116
>It's moreso to explain why Roxas looks like Ventus/why he didn't look exactly like Sora in KH2.

Then why make him look like Roxas, fuck.

>>387288361
>Yes, read the 358/2 Days manga
ftfy

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Just finished this recently feels good man

>>387289123
>platinumed BBS and CoM

Jesus Christ nigga why?

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>>387289123
Good job dude, remember to put it on your resume and bring it up on dates.

>>387289123
What about 3D?

>>387289645
Did 0.2 get trophies?

>>387272721
Actually if you listen to the Japanese voice it's clear that it's Xehanort who was trying to trap them in the realm of darkness, not Terra sacrificing himself chances are Xehanort would have known a way out.

>>387285489
Not him but look at KHI's archive. I swear people who don't read interviews feel so entitled to be spoonfed them.

>>387285069
Xion's Keyblade is Sora's remember for a period of time they could only weild 1 then Xion got a fake one then she got a real one.

>>387271985
Where did you get that Axel was in training before getting tuned into a Nobody?
Like what the fuck led to that train if thought.

>>387289860
I think it did but no plat

>>387289872
bad phrasing, I just meant he's a keyblade user in training who was once a nobody.

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>square enix in charge of storytelling/canon

M-MUH HEART AND LIGHT AND DARKNESS
If you play Kingdom Hearts for anything other than the Disney fan service you're a fagit

>>387269002
because Nomura is retarded

>>387269085
>play
watch*

>>387289872
>Not him but look at KHI's archive. I swear people who don't read interviews feel so entitled to be spoonfed them.

hey it's not our fault that Nomura's writing is so bad he outright has to explain the things that make no goddamn sense.

>>387280421
That's still only two keyblades.
Roxas and Sora both wield the exact same keyblade, it just manifests itself in two different places simultaneously, just like with Roxas and Xion. Sora uses his own and Roxas uses Sora's and Ven's.

>>387290034
The Disney fanservice is one of the worst parts.

If you want that, play an actual Disney game like Epic Mickey or Toy Story 2 on PSX

>>387271464
>>387271038
Yeah. P3's the Answer and CoM both share the same mind numbing story drip feed and both are incredibly boring to get through.

>>387271390
I prefer KH1 and like it the most of all the games because it's simple (and clean) and tells it's story without a ton of kerfuffle and the gameplay isn't about gimmick forms, qte presses and other stuff. Greatness in simplicity even though it can feel a bit clunky.

>>387291487
Legitimate question, so you would rather play a game without any Disney worlds and Disney characters? That's literally what makes the game other than the mediocre combat and the cringe worthy writing and characters.

KH3 better not have 2's awful, awful world pacing and padding.
I'm enjoying BBS shorter worlds split up between 3 characters much more.

>>387291819
I would play a KH with entirely original worlds yes

>>387277601
Well it doesn't help that Terra is about as gullible as Anakin.

>>387286310
HD Sora looks a lot less cute, they should've kept the lips thick, and his skin, hair and eyes darker

>>387291980
They did say in an interview that KH3 world visits would have a different flow to KH2

>>387278971
I enjoyed all the Tinkerbell panty shots.

>>387269896
Oh please. People always talk about how they don't have a reason to go to all the Disney worlds in later games, and while that's true, at least no explanation is more entertaining than the sorry excuses they use in the writing for KH1. I would take unexplained and overly complicated over extremely repetitive and bloated any day.

>>387292190
That's good. It's the part I hate the most about 2. It sucks a lot of the enjoyment out of it for me.

Is Aqua more emotive in Japanese because so far she's feels pretty wooden?
Ventus was better than I expected and Terra is a dumbass.

>>387292531
Aqua is pretty level-headed and doesn't let her emotions take over often, but her Japanese VA has a wider range yes

I'm only salty that the KH series forced you to buy multiple game systems to complete the story.
(I was sort of a poorfag and I I had a job in HS to buy vidya)

>>387270287
Watch the scene where Lea and Ventus meet in BBS. That's all I got for an explanation

What I want to know is why Ventus wields his keyblade backhand yet Roxas doesn't. Should have made Aqua backhand instead.

>>387278074
Why were you trying to play Days before 2 to begin with?

>>387270287
>>387293434
Lea goes to Yen Sid's tower and asks to be trained with the Keyblade.
It's the simplest possible shit.

>the scene where Lea and Ventus meet
A wooden Keyblade isn't going to do shit
It's foreshadowing at best.

>>387293434
Yeah no, Lea/Axel doesn't the rite for several reasons in that scene.

>>387276610

underrated.

Roxas IS Ventus, right? Like in reality, Roxas is Ventus' nobody? All other nobodies (aside for Namine for whatever reason) are literally their former selves, just without the heart.

That's why a plot point in KH3 is to bring back Roxas, because Roxas needs to awaken inside of Ventus and not inside of Sora.

>>387283319
>KH2 ruined everything
>>387284742
>BBS ruined everything
>>387283501
>DDD ruined everything

Maybe the whole series is to blame for the series being a load of shit?

Just think we're going to see most FF7 characters in HD for the first time in KH3. Not counting Advent Children, of course. Cloud we first got in Smash Bros, I think? Along with the first ever HD appearance of Classic Mega Man. KH3 we should see Yuffie, Aerith, Cid, and possibly Tifa and Aerith in HD for the first time.

>>387294039
No

>>387294170
Meant Tifa and Sephiroth, not Tifa and Aerith.

>>387294039
No.

>>387294039
No

>>387294170
Stop posting this. It's retarded and wrong. Trailers and Dissidia.

>>387294170
>He doesn't know

Anon, I'm sorry, but every existing FF character in the KHverse is just going to be replaced with Lightning

>>387294343
I'll give you sephiroth and leon. But Yuffie, Tifa, Cid and Aerith haven't been seen in HD.

How does Aqua pee in that outfit. Just wondering. Haha.

>>387294039
No.

>>387294039
Kairi is a princess of heart and Sora is a hotel for hearts, that's why their Nobodies are all fucked up. Roxas is still Sora's Nobody even if his creation was influenced in appearance by Ventus's heart.

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>>387294449
Trailers showing the characters and Dissidia will come out before KH3

Dissidia NT is confirmed to have all characters from previous entries

also Advent Children definitely counts

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>>387294449
>HD Yuffie

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>>387294565

>>387294893
She always seemed so happy to see Sora in KH2 as well. Poor Yuffie got cucked.

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I actually want to be able to use it but it's too story relevant so we probably won't wield it ever

Xehanort's plan is sound right? It's just the way he's going about it that's wrong.

>>387295263
Xehanort did nothing wrong.

>>387295263
Sound in what way?
Because causing Keyblade War 2 isn't exactly a good thing

>>387295263
The only time Xehanort's ever been directly outplayed is when Lea cucked him out of using Sora as a vessel in KH3D. Everything else has been a temporary setback at worst. He'll still only lose for daring to go against the power of friendship, though.

>>387295379
>he doesn't want to see what lies beyond
t. filthy light user