BATTLEFIELD

EA turned into the monster that it is.

>>387262126

EA wanted a bigger audience with bf3 and then they ruined the franchise.

>>387262486
This the move to console versions and targeting the normalfag audience consoles have was the downfall of the franchise.

>>387262486

I'm still mad at how shit bf3 was compared to BF2

Because you have to rely on your team too much in the new ones. Netcode is extremely wonky and killing someone face to face is a matter of luck. Killing vehicles is insanely hard for even a skilled engineer on foot you have to have several people coordinating or have a recon place SOFLAM which he will JUST not do.
Also helicopter gunners shooting all over the map with no repercussions because you just cant do shit to them and miniguns on transport helicopters are way too weak.

>>387262803
>People fucking insisting on playing Metro when it was quite possibly the worst map in FPS history
Filtering for any other map lead to countless empty servers, people just wanted to apparently bash heads for twenty fucking minutes at the escalators where the attackers could only advance if the defenders started playing with their dicks instead of shooting back.

>>387262126
BF4 is good, Hardline and BF1 were a mistake.

I don't think it'd be hard to return to form in future games.

>>387263442
It's a decent rush map but absolutely horrible in conquest.

>>387263565
bf4 is alright, when the game launch it had problems for over a month, sound wasnt there, alot of bugs. It was just an absolute shitshow. No game will come close to what battlefield 2 had to offer.

>>387262126
i miss battlefield

i hope they make another bad company game, at least.

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>>387262126
Just one reason.
>No
>Driveable
>Aircraft
>Carriers

>>387263442
On conquest I used it for boosting. Lots of quick kills, heals or supplies. DMR life

>>387262126
L O L
Is that current year Battlefield? It truly does look like shit.

EA decided to target normies and directly compete with Call of Duty with Battlefield 3

>>387262126
>release bad company as a console BF
>dont get your own memo and make BF3 a console BF instead of PC only
>casualised and shittier experience because its a mix of console and PC instead of one or the other
BC should have been the spin off that would be made for consoles and 3 be made for PC, BF2 and 2142 are free and have usually quite a few players on most of the time

I hated BF2.

>takes 10 shots to kill someone
>unlocking weapons later on
>stats tracking

And then you have idiotic players with:
>not using the commander feature
>not using the squad feature
>classic 90% of the team is a scout

The only good thing that came out of BF2 are the mods (still play FH2). Everything after that, including BF2, is a joke.

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>>387264348
>BF2
>a joke
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW MISTER

BF1 isn't bad it's just boring. Once you've played the game for 10 hours you've seen everything the game has to offer. Every map and match play out exactly the same.

On the contrary, BF4, still to this day has exciting unpredictable matches.

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>>387264504

BF2 truly was the best game ever.

My only pet peeve is that you had to give people multiple headshots to kill, even with a rifle.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVCylMVMTiI

>>387264348
>not using the commander feature
>classic 90% of the team is a scout
literally bf1

>>387264348
BF2 was god-tier in terms of FPS games. The unlocks are a pain at first, yes, but you don't need any unlocks to win if you're not a total scrub.
>>387264780
The L9 could one-shot if you got a headshot, tho. Barrett not being a one-shot anywhere was fucking bull, even if you could snipe a helicopter pilot with it.

>>387263672
You seem to forget how shit shooting in BF2 felt. The best thing about it is that it's stable and moddable. Long live PR and FH2.

Why do people like Bad Company 2 so much? I always thought it was ''''''okay'''''' but still liked BF2 and BF2142 much better.

>>387266046
Baby's first BF, then there's the whole BC2 > call of duty marketing campaign EA did.

>>387263565
BF1 is unironically the most fun, just too bad Sweden had to inject their cuck fantasies into it.

I'm convinced most of the "it sucks" crowd just skipped it because they heard snipers are black in it.

>>387264960
scouts suck in BF1 desu.
Medics can out snipe scouts.
>get sniper scopes on some rifles
>bullets have less drop off
>faster fire rates
Its pretty easy to 1v1 a scout with a medic.

Im not saying thats right, but just saying that scouts got nerfed to hell and back because of all the complaints about them in the series.

The most popular class is by far assault with OP guns like the hellreigel or Model 10-A hunter

>>387267063

I'm skipping it mostly because while there's no lock-on everythings in the game, now you get dumb shit like a dedicated medic class that can take NO HEALING EQUIPMENT WHATSOEVER
*AND*
GETS SOME OF THE BEST OFFENSIVE GADGETS

Please fucking abolish IP law and enable some fans to make a real Battlefield already, for fucks sake.

>>387267063
Or maybe just because it's a fucking ww1 game full of machine guns.

>>387263565
BF4 is literally just BF3's mechanics copy pasted.

>>387267063
Nah I played beta and it was lackluster regardless of sjw shit.

>>387265114
I loved bf2 but it was an unbalanced mess, and they took a lot of time and tries to fix exploits like dolphin diving.

Still, it had what made BF great, large open maps with many vehicles but also some city maps for the cod lovers out there.

Nowadays its just big corridors with a couple of tanks and airplanes.

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>>387263801
>no player driven battleships
>no player controlled battleship gunnery
>no recon players spotting targets for the battleship gunnery with their binoculars so the battleship can shell targets they can't see
This is all I want. Bring this back and I will be happy. And Commander mode too while you're at it but that's less important. Make Recon fucking Recon again.

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>>387262126
They made the main series like the Bad Company games, and that killed off BC and regular BF. Now all that's left is a blob that doesn't have an identity anymore.

>>387262126
normies and casuals
Just play RS2.

>>387262126
> making everyone move at the speed of light
> making guns accurate
> no more advanced movement
> actual team play is bare bones
> no one communicates

>>387267063
I put about 100 hours into BF1. The game is fucking boring. The more you play it the more you realize the game has no variety and you're going to through the same stale motions, map after map.

And the game is mind numbingly easy. I'm not even a good player and yet most games I'm going 30-10.

For comparison, I put about 2000 hours into BF4. I could still play that game today and not get bored.

>>387267867
>For comparison, I put about 2000 hours into BF4.
That's probably half of what I put into 2142.

>>387267350
yeah medic without heals and support with supplies are both cancer, but they are a minority and generally still outclassed by assault.

Assault is sort of overpowered because of the nature of the game. Machine guns and shotguns are better in bunkers and trenches.

Though the shitty desert maps exist so far-ranged classes (like scout) can be happy too. Not surprising that the desert maps are extremely popular.

>>387267438
kinda yes, kinda no.
A shotgun will beat a machine gun in a lot of maps.
Medic rifles are quite good and unique if you dont want to be a machine gun class.
Scouts are pretty mediocre overall but they do get some "infantry" and "experimental" variations of their sniper rifles so they can sort of compete in all maps.

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>>387267854
this

>pubg will cannibalize EADicefield: Shit Warfare just like it did to overwatch and cs
I'm so hyped for the next battlefield to be a huge dud, maybe then they'll actually try to make a good game instead of a machine made turd on a stick

>>387267063
>Unlimited sprint
>Far too fast paced
>Maps are too small
>All of them, other than the ones with the French are also shit
>Grenades are broke as fuck, everybody is a damn NFL quarterback who can switch between throwing a grenade and his rifle far too fast
>The only long range AT weapon given to the assault requires him to be prone and immobile to use. Moving between cover and quickly getting shots off like with an RPG is almost impossible
>Self-loading rifles and SMGs. Assault should have only gotten shotguns and medic should have gotten carbine variants of the scout's rifles
>No character customization. CoD has had that shit down for years, there is no excuse.
This game is a fucking disappointment, it's probably the least enjoyable game in the series I've ever played.

>>387267867
depends on what you find fun I suppose.
You sound like a boring "serious" player and therefore are boring.

BF1 is less about a huge arsenal of guns and more about variety in units.
If you find things like Cavalry, and Trench Raider fun, then there is a lot more value to the game for you.

If you just want to be super elitist and not play for fun. Then yeah, the gun arsenal is smaller and you'll just be repetitive as hell. Every round will be Hellreigel for you. Which does sound boring.

>>387268387
Well said. As an elitist "no fun" player who occasionally plays cavalry and fun shit, you can tell the focus is there.

>>387268307
>complaints about pace (probably mains scout in the series)
>he sucks with the AT rocket, one of the most OP utilities in the game.
sounds like you just suck and have slow reaction time.
Getting your shit pushed in by the Kiddies because you can't keep up.

Btw you can prop the AT rocket up on a ledge and not have to go prone.
Sprint isn't unlimited either.

You sound like someone who played 5 rounds, got dominated by someone with the handle "ILIKEPOKEMON515" then ragequit before learning how to improve.

>>387268387
There's no point in using any other weapons though unless you want to intentionally nerf yourself. That's another problem with the game, the weapon balance is atrocious. I haven't played the game in a while, so maybe they've improved that. But even then some of the weapons are just not fun to use.

>>387268736
running people over with motorcycle sidecar remains hilarious no matter how many times you do it.

sometimes you'll even see people having motorcycles battles. Those guys just dont give a fuck.

>>387262126
If fookin' miss BF1942. The expansions were amazing.
I never liked the Russian levels, but I loved all the North Africa maps

>>387262126
Battlefield was always shit.
It started off as poorly conceived, awfully executed games on a godawful engine (everything on the Refractor Engine).
It blindly stumbled into making one good game on a new shitty engine because the map design and by association everything else wasn't fucked by the presence of jets (Bad Company 2).
And then went right back into the shitty concepts on the new shitty engine that they've only made worse (BF3 to now on the Frostbite engine).

>>387267063
Nah, BF1 sucked. It was fun for all of a few hours, and the only things sort of neat were the added vaulting, the new melee attacks, but honestly after maybe 6-7 hours of BF1 all I could think about was how much more fun BF4 was.

>>387268886
support, scout and medic weapons are fairly equal across the board.

assault weapons are not very balanced. While they can technically compete.
the MP18 just isn't as good as the Reigel.
The 12 gauge isn't even close to the Model 10-A

The change that may make you happy or piss you off is that they made handguns a lot better.

>>387269273
>Handguns better

How? If I remember correctly they were already pretty decent. That was one of the few things I didn't have complaints about, the pistol variety.

>>387262126
I must be one of the few who enjoyed the battlefield series


I enjoyed BF2
I enjoyed BF3
I enjoyed BF4
and I really enjoy BF1

The real problem is that they merged the classes and otherwise pandered to console shitters with things like 3d spotting.
RS2 like >>387267854 said is the best Battlefield game yet because dolphin diving and jet/base rape aren't a thing.

I just miss bots. 1942 was very comfy with bots.

>>387262126
The graphics look like shit, how can you say this is better than modern battlefield?

>>387268802
>probably mains scout in the series
Engineer, or assault when vehicles aren't a concern
>he sucks with the AT rocket, one of the most OP utilities in the game.
Being able to 1v1 a tank is an absolute bitch because it takes far too fucking long to get shots off. In 4 I could pop out of cover, fire and be behind something solid in under a second. In this game I need to expose myself, go prone, fire, then stand back up and move behind cover. It gives the tank a huge window to kill me before I can reposition and fire off a second shot.
>Btw you can prop the AT rocket up on a ledge and not have to go prone.
You hide inside buildings when fighting armor? Are you suicidal?
>Sprint isn't unlimited either.
It's damn close too it.
>You sound like someone who played 5 rounds
I'm rank 77
>got dominated by someone with the handle "ILIKEPOKEMON515" then ragequit before learning how to improve.
I have a K/D of 2.56 and a SPM of 950, piss off.

Battlefield 1 is the most enjoyable battlefield of all time. They finally made a way to combat vehicles correctly and to not run for 45 minutes without finding an enemy. Every class is unique and useful in its own way and operations are fucking dope.

The only thing wrong is no 64 player rush.

>>387269818
>spm 950
So you're bad

>>387270213
Eh, top 1/3 percent. Would probably be higher if a camped on the objectives.

>>387269690
Bots were a blast, and It's such a bummer that they're gone.

>>387262126
>That guy who would choose to pilot the carrier and immediately run it aground
FUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>387269805
it was great for its time period shit head.

>>387270415
Sure thing buddy

>>387269116
i liked battlefield 1943. they need to make it backwards compatible on xbox.

>>387269504
>hasn't played 1942
Not qualified to talk about the series at all tbqh

What was the game that made assault the medic class? I don't think BC1 had it and I thought it was a blast. I think that was the point I stopped enjoying the games as much because of that.

>>387267350
>>387267963
>now you get dumb shit like a dedicated medic class that can take NO HEALING EQUIPMENT WHATSOEVER
Battlefield hardline fixed this problem but it didn't carry over to BF1 for whatever reason

basically if you're a medic or support people can run up to you, press E and get health/ammo, that way you don't have to suffer because some autists can't or won't do their job

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>>387270591
Looking over my stats my objective scores are the lowest. Not my fault I always end up being the one to run interceptor in no man's land.

>>387270829
I think 2142 was the first to combine medic and assault into one class

>>387267867
I agree. I still play BF4 to this day and I still have fun. There's still plenty of good servers out there. It's still very competitive too.

>>387263565
BF4 is just infrared spam. Unlock tree is way worse than 3's also.

>>387270735
agreed

>>387271298
They fixed that by removing IR's ability to see through smoke.

Battlefield Vietnam is the best one

Playing music in your Huey and fucking shit up was always lots of fun

>>387263565
2142 was the beginning of the end what with unlockable defibrillators. It was still fun though and I liked the setting desu

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>>387262126
it was a hard to balance game to begin with when the added class unlocks it completely fell off the deep end so they started simplifying maps and gameplay to try also people started playing for individual player points not map wins they also killed off the modding community so they could sell more X pak's

>>387270735
>Not qualified to talk about the series at all tbqh
Sorry but why not?

>>387270829
I remember Battlefield 3 did it because it was announced in an interview they were merging the 2 despite BC2 having seperate classes

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>>387262126
>tfw playing Operations is the most fun I had in a Battlefield game
>tfw nothing will top the feeling of sucessfully defending the first trench-line in Quentin or Ballroom Blitz for 3 rounds while the enemy throws everything they have at you with tanks and airships, but your team doesn't give them an inch
>can't ever go back to Conquest now because capping 4~6 flags all over the map with no clearly defined front line, just random skirmishes here and there is just too boring and chaotic

Too bad they'll probably remove it in the next game because not too many people play it, thanks to DICE's retarded decision of not putting Operations in the server list.

>>387272023
>>387271178
This is what ruined the games for me. I'm not sure why, it felt like the games just weren't as fun and the team comp just kinda shrunk. I liked when assault had the ammo and it makes a lot more sense to have the front line able to restock itself. But I could be thinking wrong.

>>387265114
>BF2 was god-tier in terms of FPS games.

Bf2 is the one introduced unlocking bullshits that manifested into exp/package. Bf2 is a shitstorm. I thought vietnam was bad until i played bf2, stopped playing there serious and went casual from then. 2142 was actually fun but too little too late.

>>387272267
>have to throw myself over and over at the same chokepoint until the match moves to the next chokepoint or sit in a spot playing duck hunt
Fuck off. Conquest is the best mode.

>>387272427
But support was the one with ammo in BF2142 still at least, don't remember about BF3

>>387272619
Better than walking 5 minutes around the map looking for a fight only to get killed by a scout

>>387272625
That's what I mean, I could be remembering wrong but I don't remember the assault having the medkit in BC1 which was the latest BF game I spent a lot of time in

>>387272267
this

I can only play operations now

every other game mode is so fucking boring

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>>387263442
>want to play server that plays through a whole playlist of maps
>its on metro when you join
>70% of the players leave when the map changes to something else
Thanks guys

Do people still play BF1942?

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>>387262126
>all those nights I spent playing battlefield 1942 demo
just end my life

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>>387262126
>What went wrong?
EA's acquisition of DICE in 2006
Bad Company and the whole shift from PC to consoles which caused alot of changes that ruined the series
3D spotting, unlimited sprint, tiny maps, focus on rush and other game modes when conquest has been the staple of the series for years etc.. etc..
BF3/4 are a mix of old and new, BF1 had more core gameplay changes to the point it didn't play like a traditional battlefield game

>>387262126
shit, I remember I had tons of fun playing modded BF1942 just with bots as a kid
Sure, the AI was dumb as shit but it was pretty good immersing myself that I'm playing as a german Tiger ace, knocking out shermans and cromwells in Holland or dogfighting over Midway

1943 remastered w/ a pc release when?

>>387262126
Niggers everywhere

>>387267725
>bring back commander mode
>if you bring it to tablets fucking support it for the entire life of the game
>make recon a recon class at heart
>REMOVE on screen info like who you killed and how many special points you got

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>>387268387
>killed by that guy who has 40 service starts for the hellreigel

I remember playing BF1942 for endless nights, this game was cash as fuck
The D-day scenario with the bunkers and the ship was excellent

>>387275051
same desu.

Wake Island for MP, Tubrok for SP

>>387271484
should have just never had it in the first place

>>387270093
This tbqh. Operations is dope, cavalry and special classes (tank hunter and flamer etc) are fun as fuck, maps have good variety aesthetically and in terms of layout, behemoths are cool.
If you don't take bf too seriously bf1 is great fun. I just wish there were some more gadgets/guns for some classes like support

>>387262126
They became lying, lazy cunts.

They have no ambition for the series now and don't give a shit about their fans.

>>387276091
Every time that happens I remember getting killed by a guy with 60,000 kills with the AEK in 4 and I feel a little bit better.

>>387276091
Every fucking time. I hate them.

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Consoles

>>387270093
i kinda like the smaller person rush, cause then its not just people failing to rush the bomb site and just camping it out while waiting on others to do the job for them

tfw wake island post 1942 sucks ass because they removed ships

>>387277060
>it's a the chinese theam has more skilled pilots and jsut keeps baseraping round

BF1942 CTF was fucking god tier

>>387276091
>team getting rekt by guy in attack plane anti tank loadout, has 100 stars
>not a single player actually shooting the plane, giving him free reign

>>387262126
Chasing the Call of Duty Killstreek, no scoperz, Faze Clan crowd

>>387269818

why should you, a lone absolute nobody foot soldier fuck in the early 1900s, be able to 1v1 a several-ton rolling monster of death? get a plane, another tank, get on an anti-armor turret, or heaven forbid actually cooperate with your teammates to take it down.

In my opinion they need to completely take away the ant-tank rifle from the assault class. the fuck is the point of the tank hunter when he's literally just an assault class with a shit 2-shot shotgun and a slightly better anti-tank gun?

>>387276717
reminder this image is why PC will always be an afterthought in the industry

>>387262389
/thread

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>>387263565
>writing off Hardline
The campaign was good. It certainly had a lot more going for it than the usual five hour tutorials the others had.

Some of the multiplayer modes had some interesting ideas going for them. Hotwire was a lot more fun than it sounds.

>>387278225
Because of shitty devs?

>>387262126
I like BF1, but 1942 is still my favourite

>>387267438
Except every single gun in the game was around in WW1

not to mention all the assault weapons aren't good past 50m

if you're complaining about support MGs, that's why trench warfare happened, because you can't just run into a setup

>>387269273
>the MP18 just isn't as good as the Reigel

unless you're shooting someone who's not in your face

hellriegel's ability to kill people at range is laughable, the bullets go everywhere

>>387262126

They bought into sand bullshit and stopped innovating after 2142.

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>>387278219
>why should you, a lone absolute nobody foot soldier fuck in the early 1900s, be able to 1v1 a several-ton rolling monster of death?
Because it's a fucking video game. And if that's not a good enough answer for you, that's how it usually happens in the real world.
>get a plane, another tank
So your plan to deal with armor is to kill yourself, wait several minutes in a spawn screen for a chance to get a vehicle to fulfill a single purpose? Yea you can fuck right off with that.
>get on an anti-armor turret
I will give DICE credit where credit is due. BF1 is probably the only game where the AT emplacements are actually usable. Although that's still an iffy solution, considering how they can be quickly knocked out and are only available in certain locations.
>heaven forbid actually cooperate with your teammates to take it down.
That would be real fucking helpful if most of my team wasn't made of of window lickers who can't use their mics.

>>387279027
>I will give DICE credit where credit is due. BF1 is probably the only game where the AT emplacements are actually usable.

Def guns in 1942 were useful as were ATGM emplacements in later games.

>>387279027
>>why should you, a lone absolute nobody foot soldier fuck in the early 1900s, be able to 1v1 a several-ton rolling monster of death?
>Because it's a fucking video game. And if that's not a good enough answer for you, that's how it usually happens in the real world.

it depends on the context

there are several tanks in BF1, and an assault getting the drop one particular tanks can very much take it out on it's own

but I don't think a tank with 6 people in it should be solo-able

I also don't think there should be any tanks with only 1 driver, but that's another discussion

>>387279408
I never played 1942 so I can't talk about that but the problem with the ATGM launchers is that you have absolutely no protection while using them. They were good at knocking out AMTRAKs or Humvees but against MBTs or IFVs you were fucked if they saw where you fired from.

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Planetside 2 was supposed to be the chosen one.

>>387279705
ps2 was decent fun, sadly there were some abuse cases but I guess that's just video games

>>387279462
>but I don't think a tank with 6 people in it should be solo-able
I've killed full IFVs as the engineer before. It's possible but you have to play if fast and smart.
>I also don't think there should be any tanks with only 1 driver
That would be nice but the game is far too casual for it. Only ARMA and RO can pull that off.

So how is BC2 in terms of players i kinda want to play it again but if it's just a couple server running only 1 map because the die hard autist can't play anything else i'll pass

>>387279878
planetside 1 did it and it was pretty rad

>>387278568
because they act like special snowflakes

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>>387263801
>tfw BF2142 had this

>>387264780
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVCylMVMTiI
holy fuck the nostalgia

>>387262126
The changes starting from BC2 to now are staggering. That all started the lowering of time-to-kill, the run and gun as assault, the viable lone wolf gameplay that fucked squad balance, and the bloated unlocks that did fuckall besides keep that hamster wheel churning. Fuck this series and everything it became after BF2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUD9zaCaSqk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4wEAO07hM

>>387266046
>>387266914
it was my first battlefield.

I had only played the bf2 on my family computer before that and it ran like shit. I remember trying the bc2 demo on 360 and it was so fresh to me after cod4 forever.

>>387262126
thanks for reminding me that i actually own bf1.

I'm gonna play that

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>>387270093
>and to not run for 45 minutes without finding an enemy
I have never understood this sentiment with any battlefield game, I'm almost convinced I live in some alternate dimension with an entirely different series that shares the name Battlefield and you're all just talking about something else.

>>387263565

I skipped bf1 solely because of the cuck propaganda

>>387282556
why you worried about being a cuck when you aren't even sexually active in the first place?

>>387274937
Yes, Moongamers and Simple servers usually have players.